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<athlete> hi guys, is there a test suite to check ruby interpreter himself? I want to know if my currently installed ruby version have "standard compliance"
<havenwood> athlete: There's RubySpec: http://rubyspec.org/
<whitequark> athlete: what exactly are you trying to achieve?
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<Antiarc> athlete: MRI ships with a test suite to test itself
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<athlete> havenwood: thanks, it works
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<athlete> whitequark: nothing serious, I just had to work on win lately and the only straightforward way to install ruby on this platform is rubyinstaller.org
<whitequark> sure, rubyinstaller packages the same ruby as on linux
<athlete> whitequark: I asked myself how much I can trust these guys
<athlete> however rubyspec on win cant even finish properly
<athlete> many tests are dependent on unix tools
<whitequark> rubyspec is not worth running for the end-user
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<Antiarc> try the MRI tests. They're in test/ in the source tree
<athlete> meanwhile on my mac test suite finishes sucessfully, only got 8 errors (ruby2.1.4 installed via rvm)
<whitequark> really, I don't know what are you going to infer from the results
<whitequark> no one from the MRI team cares about rubyspec at all
<whitequark> you'll learn MRI fails some tests. what next?
<athlete> whitequark: nothing, just having fun in spare time
<whitequark> okay
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<athlete> Antiarc: I've seen these tests in MRI sources, but they dont come with ruby distribution from rubyinstaller.org
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<Antiarc> They should still theoretically run against the Ruby binary you have
<athlete> Antiarc: okay gonna try this
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<tejas-manohar> http://hastebin.com/bahosemale.vbs -- why does http://text-friend-163915.use1-2.nitrousbox.com/receive?Body=hello error? im trying to make the response of cleverbot show on that page
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<athlete> Antiarc: thanks, I've played with MRI tests
<athlete> these tests seems to be richer than RubySpec
<athlete> testing not only core language features, but whole ruby distribution (shit like erb, webrick and so on)
<Antiarc> RubySpec is supposed to be a formal language specification, the MRI test suite is what Ruby actually gets developed against
<athlete> however they still fail on windows due to some non-standard readline library used to compile ruby for this platform
<athlete> on mac works fine, only like 20 errors out of 15K tests
<Antiarc> That's not entirely unsurprising
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<whitequark> Antiarc: rubyspec is not a ruby specification.
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<whitequark> the reason is that it is, by design, unable to specify what does *not* happen
<whitequark> it's a testsuite that is mostly useful for verifying that you got right some odd implementation details of MRI, that somehow got named a "specification"
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<zenspider> haha
<zenspider> very good description
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<zenspider> athlete: windows build / testing requires extra stuff. luis lavena handles almost all of that (and well)
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<dave305> @ = channel op, while * means IRC op.
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<dave304> whois dave304
<pnbeast> That'd be you, dave304.
<dave304> PING 1415466614841292
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<zenspider> dave304: can you teach us ALL of IRC?
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<dave304> @zenspider please i hope i have not offended you or anybody.. i am a new to irc and ruby. just checking out basic command from the irc help page
<zenspider> midly entertaining... not offensive
<zenspider> mildly...
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<dave304> last thign i want to do is to piss off anyone, especially when i have tons of question to ask
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<dave304> please guys why does the first code work and the second does not (1) puts "String has vowels" if "This is a test" =~ /[aeiou]/
<dave304> and (2) if "This is a test" =~ /[aeiou]/ puts "String has vowels"
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<dave304> i am a newbie on ruby
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<tejas-manohar> https://github.com/tejas-manohar/textmail.me is my project, it's erroring as seen here --> http://pastebin.com/B6HhbQy8 - says something about kernel issues, tried on nitrous.io (which runs ubunutu 14 i believe) and mac os x 10.10, same issue
<zenspider> not kernel issues. kernel_require.rb
<zenspider> it's just require failing
<nofxx> tejas-manohar, `require': cannot load such file -- gmail-ruby (LoadError) the part you didn't red
<zenspider> tejas-manohar: did you install the dependencies ?
<zenspider> like `bundle install` or the like?
<tejas-manohar> nofxx: @zenspider: yeah mutliple times to be sure :)
<tejas-manohar> feel free to clone and try
<zenspider> ah. there is no gmail-ruby file
<zenspider> line 2 of app.rb has `require 'gmail-ruby'`
<zenspider> that line is wrong
<zenspider> just because a gem is named X doesn't mean you require 'X'
<tejas-manohar> oh
<tejas-manohar> shit
<tejas-manohar> what do i write?
<nofxx> darn.. if I #ifdef FOO on a .cpp file isn't just a matter of make FOO=true or 1 or whatever to work? OT sorry, #cpp?
<zenspider> you need to look at the gem and see what it wants
<tejas-manohar> oh
<tejas-manohar> wow
<tejas-manohar> never thought
<tejas-manohar> (im new lol)
<zenspider> nofxx: only if make has something to -DFOO in it
<tejas-manohar> wait where will i look @zenspider
<tejas-manohar> like where in the package
<tejas-manohar> ?
<zenspider> go read the doco and/or the source for the gem
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<nofxx> zenspider, hmm -D lemme try
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<zenspider> nofxx: like: cc -DFOO blah.c -o blah
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<zenspider> or in the makefile something like CFLAGS="-DFOO"
<nofxx> hm makefile than... looks like it doesn't like D: make: invalid option -- 'D'
<nofxx> cmake generated makefile
<zenspider> not to make. -D is for the compiler
<zenspider> man clang / gcc / whatever compiler
<nofxx> I see, but as I don't run the compiler I was wondering if make had something I could change easier... w/o editing a file
<nofxx> zenspider, ty
<zenspider> depends on the makefile. sometimes you can do something to inject values in via env
<nofxx> --PASS-ALONG hehe
<zenspider> CFLAGS=-DDEBUG automake or somesuch
<nofxx> going to make rakefile... get some sanity in this folder. cpp ppl are crazy
<zenspider> haha
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<nofxx> even rakefiles being the most obscure part of ruby I know
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<tejas-manohar> @zenspider: nofxx: gmail.inbox.emails(:unread, :after => Date.today.prev_day) returns something like #<Gmail::Message:0x007f1eec03ba58>
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<tejas-manohar> @zenspireder: @nofxx: how do i retrieve like the body or subject or something from the email
<zenspider> what does the doco say?
<tejas-manohar> @zenspirder: nofxx: anyway to see properties available to you? https://github.com/dcparker/ruby-gmail
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<tejas-manohar> @zenspider doesnt say anything
<nofxx> tejas-manohar, if you are going to venture w/o a map check out some gems like 'inspect' 'what_method' 'local_methods'
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<zenspider> tejas-manohar: sure looks like it says something to me. but ok... what does the code say?
<tejas-manohar> nofxx: so what exactly do i do? whatevertheobjectis.inspect?
<tejas-manohar> @zenspider: wait what where in the readme does it say what i need???
<tejas-manohar> @zenspider: i read it twice
<nofxx> yup. I use often local_methods too.. obj.local_methods
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<nofxx> tejas-manohar, and obj means object, which means everything in ruby
<nofxx> >> Array.local_methods
<nofxx> => ["[]", "allocate", "json_creatable?", "new", "superclass", "try_convert", "yaml_tag"]
<eval-in__> nofxx => undefined method `local_methods' for Array:Class (NoMethodError) ... (https://eval.in/219121)
<nofxx> sorry bot
<nofxx> gem install 'local_methods'
<zenspider> says: email.attachments.each do |attachment|
<tejas-manohar> nofxx: NoMethodError - undefined method `local_methods' for #<Mail::Message:0x007f9a50032568>
<zenspider> the github.io page says email.message.attachments
<tejas-manohar> um but i dont want attachments @zenspider
<nofxx> as I said it's a gem.... each one I said tejas-manohar
<tejas-manohar> i wanna know how to access body, subject, etc.
<tejas-manohar> ohh
<zenspider> ... did you even try?
<tejas-manohar> @zenspider: so just guess the names?
<zenspider> but if you look at the code you'll see a method_missing that delegates to message first
<tejas-manohar> nofxx: NoMethodError - undefined method `local_methods' for #<Mail::Message:0x007f9a50032568>
<zenspider> tejas-manohar: well... you're not willing to read the code, so I guess guessing is as good as it gets
<zenspider> what'll happen? something blows up? I assure you blue smoke won't come out of your computer
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<tejas-manohar> @zenspider: im reading and i cant find it im looking im looking
<nofxx> zenspider, true story: once my PSU started a small fire, it didn't stop! the fan started blowing fire out, only thing I could think was "it still moves the mouse" and a second later I ran to the outlet
<nofxx> it moves the mouse and it's going for the moon!
<zenspider> hahahaha
<zenspider> mouse move? must be fine
<tejas-manohar> no but seriosuly
<tejas-manohar> ugh
<nofxx> yeah it didn't crashed! but I unplugged in a hurry. Would be fun a syslog "FIRE! FIRE! THIS IS NOT A DRILL"
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<zenspider> lol. what color was the fire? should be blue
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<nofxx> takeoff yellow! telling you, it went for the moon
<ledestin> I’m developing a webapp which’ll talk to backend via AJAX. The problem I have is that if I pass null to React components, it doesn’t work well, I have to work around that and pass an empty string. Possibly, I could make extra work and change all my components to account for that, but there are also components that other people do. So, it seems like a good idea to convert nulls to ‘’ and back at the Backbone model level. What do you think?
<nofxx> had a paint job some years ago but I'll try to find the pic of the burned wall
<ledestin> another option would be to fix React, if they’d agree to it and would consider it a problem at all
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<zenspider> this library is really clean. easy read
<zenspider> nofxx: hah
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<nofxx> ledestin, I'm not the JS guy... was playing with Vue.js , looks nice too
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<ledestin> nofxx: I got React for building UI, it’s an architecture question I guess
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<nofxx> ledestin, well, from a least surprise I guess nil is the only thing you could map to JS's null
<nofxx> so '' == '' , nil == null
<ledestin> nofxx: yep, that would be my choice. So I guess I’ll try fixing React first.
<ledestin> I didn’t get any meaningful respones on #reactjs
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<johnnycash22> hey guys
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<johnnycash22> https://github.com/benmanns/cleverbot - whats the require statement - its not listed in the readme and isnt simply 'cleverbot'
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<ledestin> johnnycash22: ls lib/*.rb
<johnnycash22> ledestin: cleverbot.rb is there
<johnnycash22> ledestin: but 'cleverbot' doesnt work as the require
<ledestin> johnnycash22: then it should be it :-|
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<ledestin> johnnycash22: so what happens? require doesn’t find the file?
<johnnycash22> got it nvm
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<johnnycash22> ledestin: any ideas? https://bpaste.net/show/c24b81bfaa53 isnt putting anything for the var resp -- its using this package https://github.com/benmanns/cleverbot along with https://github.com/twilio/twilio-ruby
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<ledestin> johnnycash22: well, it might be nil. use p.
<johnnycash22> ledestin: it is nil
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<ledestin> I’ve never worked with those gems
<ledestin> I can only notice that you assign @client twice
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<yorickpeterse> "RSpec does not support `should != expected`. Use `should_not == expected` instead" well
<yorickpeterse> that's nice
<jhass> no
<jhass> use expect(foo).to_not eq expected
<yorickpeterse> haha yeah fuck the new rspec syntax
<yorickpeterse> I'll have none of that
<jhass> no, fuck the old one
<jhass> monkey patching every darn object there is
<yorickpeterse> I've literally never had any problems with that
<yorickpeterse> In the cases where I've looked into the new syntax it's 1) stupid to read 2) requires much more typing
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<macscam1> hello, does anyone know how to get libxml running on ruby 1.8.7?
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<apeiros> wrong question. correct question: how do I not use a dead version.
<apeiros> 1.8.7 is a goner. don't use it anymore.
<apeiros> if you insist on using zombies in your stuff - install an old nokogiri version. nokogiri page should list the last compatible version.
<macscam1> opeiros i have been given a large rails 2 app and asked to add features. how do i not use a dead version
<jhass> isn't rails 2 a dead version too?
<apeiros> yeeeeha, I'm OPeiros! fear me!
<apeiros> apeiros OP :D
<apeiros> (the gamer slang OP, not the irc slang OP)
<apeiros> macscam1: rails 2.3?
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<macscam1> aperios: yeah
<apeiros> still wrong nick macscam1 :-p
<apeiros> pro-tip: use tab completion
<macscam1> apeiros: thanks
<apeiros> you may need to update some gems in your app
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<yorickpeterse> macscam1: by libxml, do you mean libxml-ruby or Nokogiri?
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<macscam1> yorickpeterse libxml-ruby
<yorickpeterse> Hm, according to the Gemspec it should work on >= 1.8.6
<yorickpeterse> What exactly doesn't work?
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<macscam1> yorickpeterse cant install the gem
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<yorickpeterse> Please gist (gist.github.com) the full gem installation outpu
<yorickpeterse> * output
<yorickpeterse> run it using `gem install --verbose libxml-ruby`
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<macscam1> yorickpeterse just leave comment on gist because ill brb
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<yorickpeterse> macscam1: Hm, looks like your compiler might actually be incompatible with the particular Gem version
<macscam1> yorickpeterse i have had this issue on every computer ive tried it on
<yorickpeterse> apparently libxml-ruby 2.3.3 was released in 2012
<yorickpeterse> can you try installing the latest version?
<yorickpeterse> bundle update libxml-ruby (if it's fixed to a specific version you might have to change that)
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<macscam1> yorickpeterse: there was no gem found
<macscam1> yorickpeterse actually let me try again
<yorickpeterse> macscam1: can you just run `gem install libxml-ruby` and see if that works?
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