apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.1.4; 2.0.0-p594; 1.9.3-p550: http://ruby-lang.org || Paste code on http://gist.github.com
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<headius> drbrain: I don't really care, but I go to setup.rb a new RG into JRuby and that file comes along every time
<headius> so I figured I'd ask
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<zenspider> headius: totally nukable
<headius> zenspider: figured as much, thanks
<headius> you'll be in SD, right?
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<zenspider> yup yup
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<jdecuirm__> Hi all!
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<jdecuirm__> I'm trying to reopen a class to add a method but i'm getting an error undefined method
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<jdecuirm__> So this is what i have, i hope you can help me!
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<|jemc|> jdecuirm__: because you prepended 'self.' you are defining a singleton method
<jdecuirm__> Oh...
<|jemc|> >> class Fixnum; def self.foo; 88; end; def foo; 99; end; end; [Fixnum.foo, 0.foo]
<eval-in__> |jemc| => [88, 99] (https://eval.in/220675)
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<|jemc|> singleton methods are messages sent to the class or module itself; 'regular' methods are messages sent to an instance of the class or module
<|jemc|> TLDR; drop the 'self.' and your method will be dispatched to where you think it should be
<nofxx> jdecuirm__, you might understand better as "class" vs "object" methods
<nofxx> jdecuirm__, Foo.method -> class/singleton/eigen Foo.new.method -> object
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<jdecuirm__> thanks guys! now it's working
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: PING PING PING PING
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<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: why does Slop's behaviour change so drastically when you use Slop.new { |slop| } vs Slop.new { }
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<yorickpeterse> e.g. in case of the former, if you call #to_s on the Slop instance it doesn't output the options
<yorickpeterse> but in case of the later, due to instance_eval, you lose the outer scope
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<akshayvishnoi> hey i want to consume a SOAP api.
<ljarvis> yorickpeterse: Slop.new { |s| s.on(:foo); puts s } works fine for me
<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: I'm doing it inside an option
<akshayvishnoi> It has SSL authentication.
<yorickpeterse> I basically had
<akshayvishnoi> How should i do it?
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<yorickpeterse> Slop.new { |s| s.on(:h, :help, 'Shows this help message') { abort s.to_s } }
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<ljarvis> oh right inside an option block
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<akshayvishnoi> I have tried savon gem. But i m constantly getting 400 bad request.
<yorickpeterse> I fixed it by using the regular form and doing `outer = self` before the block, but it was a curiosity to say the least
<akshayvishnoi> Please help
<yorickpeterse> akshayvishnoi: Savon is generally the way to go, perhaps you're simply requesting invalid data/URLs?
<ljarvis> yorickpeterse: tbh using the outer variable is bad anyway, so it either needs to provide access within the block as a block variable or it's always gonna be a bit of a hack
<akshayvishnoi> no i have tried to consume on http …. it worked fine
<ljarvis> akshayvishnoi: check request/response headers for them both
<akshayvishnoi> but with ssl authentication it is not working
<ljarvis> that'll identify the difference
<ljarvis> ok.. so then it's because of SSL
<yorickpeterse> akshayvishnoi: euh, you're talking all sorts of different things
<yorickpeterse> SOAP, then regular HTTP, then suddenly SSL
<yorickpeterse> One can assume Savon itself works fine, since it's pretty popular I believe
<yorickpeterse> So most likely you're requesting things incorrectly, or the SOAP API is broken
<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: other question, is it possible to get a list of automatically created options (excluding explicitly defined ones)?
<yorickpeterse> without keeping track of the explicit ones myself
<yorickpeterse> something like slop.automatically_created_options
<ljarvis> automatically created options?
<ljarvis> oh are you using autocreate?
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<yorickpeterse> Yeah, basically this has to take a bunch of unknown options and pass them along to an exec() call
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<yorickpeterse> but it also has a set of recognized options
<yorickpeterse> You should see the existing code, haha
<ljarvis> ok i didn't think anyone used autocreate (it's due to be removed actually). But no there's currently no way, because they're not flagged separately. Happy to have them flagged if you could add it to GitHub, otherwise you'd have to track it
* yorickpeterse is doing "The Big Refactor"
<yorickpeterse> well, "The Big Rewrite"
<yorickpeterse> hmmm
<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: alternatively, can I tell it to just ignore whatever options it doesn't recognize and leave those in ARGV?
<yorickpeterse> so .e.g if "--foo" is defined but you give "--foo --bar" then "--bar" would be left in ARGV
<yorickpeterse> durrrr, that's :strict
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<yorickpeterse> it's almost as if somebody actually thought this out
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<yorickpeterse> something something Oga not vulnerable to that dos
<yorickpeterse> :>
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<darix> yorickpeterse: so you limit macro expansion depth?
<darix> s/macro/entity/
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<yorickpeterse> darix: No
<yorickpeterse> I don't process inline DTDs at all
<yorickpeterse> :P
<yorickpeterse> Honestly, with all the possible exploits attached to it that's not such a bad idea
<darix> yorickpeterse: and I can just reference an external DTD which contains that exploit and oga would happily process that?
<darix> i think inline dtd is probably just for easier testing/showcase
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<yorickpeterse> darix: Oga parses DTDs as plain text basically
<yorickpeterse> it doesn't evaluate them in any way
<yorickpeterse> So you could even put YAML in there and it would be fine
* yorickpeterse ducks
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<darix> good thing entities arent important in xml/html
<yorickpeterse> I'm willing to make that tradeoff if supporting means 129381902382 potential backdoors and exploits
<yorickpeterse> If people want to have a backdoor in their XML parser they can happily use libxml/nokogiri
<yorickpeterse> or rexml
<darix> you could just limit expansion depth as others
<yorickpeterse> It's not just about that, it's also the complexity
<yorickpeterse> and the sheer amount of shit you have to deal with in order to support all of it
<yorickpeterse> also don't have a need for it myself, so not going to bother with it
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<darix> yorickpeterse: so how do you handle html entities when you parse other sites?
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<yorickpeterse> darix: Oga doesn't
<yorickpeterse> it expands/encodes XML entities, that's it
<yorickpeterse> If people want to expand HTML entities they can use https://github.com/threedaymonk/htmlentities
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<yorickpeterse> Custom defined entities are not in my interest, I'm not going to support them. Ever
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<yorickpeterse> (I might at some point optionally add support for the htmlentities Gem)
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<darix> we will see how long that holds. :)
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<yorickpeterse> I can assure you it won't change unless I have an absolute need for it myself
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<yorickpeterse> I'd rather eat my shoes than to deal with DTDs
<darix> i wonder if you can define entities in xml schema or relaxng
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<Lingo_> Wut
<Lingo_> +d
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<pricees> clear
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<anjen> Kind folkses... I need a quick sanity check regarding new_record?() Does this isolate literal new column entries, ie, if I create a "product" then it returns true, if it was already created but is being updated, it returns false?. (I know... I experiment all the time. just in a rush today and don't want to sift the outernet for answers.)
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<anjen> Anyone?
<pipework> drbrain: Hey sir, do you happen to know if net-http-persistent is interested in supporting ciphers?
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<darix> ljarvis: werent you involved with net-http-persistent ?
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<ljarvis> darix: no that's all drbrain, we just use it in mechanize
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<drbrain> pipework: ciphers?
<pipework> drbrain: Yeah, for tls.
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<drbrain> pipework: does Net::HTTP allow setting ciphers?
<pipework> drbrain: YEah.
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<drbrain> pipework: looks like I just need to export it as Net::HTTP allows it, can you create an issue for me?
<pipework> drbrain: Yeah.
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<pipework> drbrain: Because email clearly isn't dependable: https://github.com/drbrain/net-http-persistent/issues/63
<drbrain> pipework: thanks!
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<pipework> drbrain: Thank you sir. I'm trying to get dayjob to use net-http-persistent as the adapter for faraday, and after we start doing that we're going to want to make an http connection pool for each of the ruby clients we ship for our backend services. net-http-persistent will be a huge improvement for us.
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<pipework> I've read about the automatic reconnect support but haven't used it. It's exciting.
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<drbrain> pipework: For Ruby 2.1 it works out of the box, but for having to manage the connections yourself
<pipework> drbrain: We're looking at an early next year timeline to go from 2.0 to 2.1, but we might not be able to actually get net-http-persistent into production until next year anyways.
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<Fessenden> Howdy! I'm having an issue with gem creation. I've installed it, it shows up in 'gem list', but I can't require it. It has single quotes around it, and I've tried PythonCase, snake_case, and whateverCaseThisIs.
<zenspider> Fessenden: vague description is vague
<zenspider> what gem?
<Fessenden> Custom gem. Writing software into a gem format.
<Fessenden> Trying to use it locally.
<Fessenden> Right now, it's just helloWorld.gem.
<Fessenden> Specifically, I'm following http://guides.rubygems.org/make-your-own-gem/
<zenspider> ok. so you _know_ the contents of the gem
<apeiros__> Fessenden: require works with files in your gem
<apeiros__> so the argument to require must match a path in the lib dir of your gem
<apeiros__> the gem name is irrelevant
<zenspider> is what you're requiring exist in lib/<require-name>.rb ?
<zenspider> next question: is lib/ set up as the include path for the gem?
<Fessenden> zenspider: Yes, it's just a print statement in a function. ...No, it doesn't. The filename is different than the gem name, and I'm a moron, because that's mandatory, isn't it.
<zenspider> both can be answered by gem spec <gemname>
<zenspider> it isn't mandatory at all
<zenspider> you need to require the file, not the gem
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<zenspider> well... I guess the file existing in lib can't be answered by gem spec, because specs are neutered
<zenspider> gem which <filename> will tho
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<Fessenden> Er... mid-fix on a different tack, will be back momentarily.
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<Fessenden> Yes, the file exists, yes it's included in the gemspec path and shows up in gem which.
<Fessenden> Now it is also named the same as the gem.
<zenspider> and are you still having problems?
<Fessenden> Yup.
<Fessenden> Still can't find the file.
<Fessenden> no such file to load.
<zenspider> `type gem`
<zenspider> `type ruby`
<zenspider> make sure they're from the same install
<Fessenden> Er. Says they're hashed?
<Fessenden> returns /usr/bin/gem /usr/bin/ruby/ respectively.
<zenspider> ok
<zenspider> gem list shows your gem?
<zenspider> shows your NEW gem ?
<Fessenden> Sure does. Had two versions, briefly, when I made my change, but I deleted them both and remade the new one.
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<zenspider> kk. `gem which <require-name>`
<zenspider> % gem which minitest
<zenspider> /Library/Ruby/Gems/2.0.0/gems/minitest-5.4.1/lib/minitest.rb
<Fessenden> returns /var/lib/gems/1.8/gems/GEMNAME-0.0.1/lib/GEMNAME.rb
<zenspider> `gem spec GEMNAME require_paths`
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<Fessenden> ---
<Fessenden> -
<Fessenden> lib
<zenspider> uh
<Fessenden> Sorry, those last two were one line.
<zenspider> ok... good
<zenspider> and what's your require line look like?
<zenspider> shit
<zenspider> you're in 1.8
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<zenspider> require "rubygems" above
<Fessenden> require 'GEMNAME'
<Fessenden> Sure thing, changing .
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<Fessenden> She lives!
<Fessenden> Don't know why that didn't work last time I tried it.
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<Fessenden> Word, I can hammer out the rest of it, I hope.
<Fessenden> Thank you very much for your help, zenspider
<Fessenden> :)
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<zenspider> in ruby 1.8 rubygems isn't auto-loaded
<bnagy> dat 1.8
<zenspider> so you either need ruby -rubygems file.rb or file.rb needs to require rubygems
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<Fessenden> file.rb requiring rubygems sound much more elegant.
<Fessenden> Wait, no, I'm thinking a stupid thing.
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<Fessenden> Those are both equally gnarly.
<Fessenden> Ah well, nothing for it.
<Fessenden> 1.8. Blech.
<Fessenden> Does that change in 1.9, or 2.0?
<zenspider> 1.9 and above auto-require
<zenspider> there's pros and cons to both
<Fessenden> Alrighty then.
<Fessenden> I think my local machine is behind - my peers are using 1.9. Time for an upgrade.
<zenspider> I would require rubygems in bin/<cmd>
<zenspider> your peers should be using 2, so they're behind too :)
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<Fessenden> There was some issue that kept us from upgrading, but I can't remember what it was. I'll confer with them, but at this point, we're pretty deep into development, and working on a couple nigh-immediate deliverables. I'll make a push for it once we have some downtime. :)
<Fessenden> Downtime. Hah.
<Fessenden> Thanks again, I'ma jet.
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