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<nofxx> yorickpeterse, any reason in particular -p syntastic shows is #{file}:#{W|E}:#{line} ? Could one pull request a order change? #{file}:#{line}:#{W|E}
<nofxx> terminal click to open in emacs is one of the best things I've discovered in the last year
<nofxx> but the regex is kinda \w:\d:\d?.*
<nofxx> btw, thanks didn't knew ruby-lint
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<nofxx> FORMAT = '%{file}:%{line}:%{column}:%{level} %{message}' works
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<zenspider> nofxx: not running your shell inside emacs?
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<nofxx> zenspider, can't find a good way to do that with dual monitors
<nofxx> also, it always buggies with me, both shell and eshell
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<kshah> hello, planning on wrapping an executable provided to my gem users with a daemon if the option is given, it’s a been a little bit, but is the de facto standard still the ‘daemons’ gem? are there any popular alternatives? quick googling didn’t reveal anything
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<darix> kshah: check what things like puma, resque, sidekiq or unicorn use
<darix> just to name a few
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<kshah> I would assuming they are rolling their own, but yes, I will check them out… it actually looks like daemons has been updated rather recently which is a joy to see, so I don’t anticipate a problem anywho
<kshah> (not that it being old would have meant there would have been a problem)
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<[spoiler]> Morning
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<ljarvis> moin
<ljarvis> yorickpeterse: not really having trouble per say, it all just feels quite clunky
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<ljarvis> yorickpeterse: that said, I haven't really scratched the surface yet (see leejarvis/tiger). I've done this kind of thing before many years ago, forgot how mind numbing it can be
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<yorickpeterse> nofxx: re syntastic, it's so that it's compatible with Syntastic
<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: getting started with parsing is a PITA
<yorickpeterse> also morning
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<ljarvis> how the fuck do i test a validation that only runs on update in a unit test
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<tobiasvl> runs on update?
<maloik> ljarvis: check that the method is being called on update, and then test the output of the actual method?
<ljarvis> maloik: it just adds a validation, so i just want `foo.bar = "something bad"; expect(foo).to have(1).error_on(:whatever)` but the validation only runs on update which means (i think) fiddling with too much mocking or hitting the db
<ljarvis> meh i'll just use an integration spec for it
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<ljarvis> x.length != Set.new(x).length # lazy
<maloik> oh right... yea in that case we don't quite shy away from hitting the db yet :/
<maloik> our 1200ish tests take about 2min to run locally
<ljarvis> our unit and integration specs are fast, our request specs are not :D
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<yorickpeterse> ljarvis: some_model.field = 'invalid_value'
<yorickpeterse> some_model.valid?.should == false
<yorickpeterse> (yes I use the should syntax, bite me)
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<ljarvis> that wont work
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<ljarvis> "update"
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<yorickpeterse> wat
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<ljarvis> yorickpeterse: that wont run a validation that is meant for on update
<yorickpeterse> oh derp
<ljarvis> nub
<yorickpeterse> well, then just create a record and update it?
<ljarvis> ...
<ljarvis> bro
<yorickpeterse> ooooooh heavens forbid creating a database record
<ljarvis> y u even
<ljarvis> that's why i asked.. because i *wanted* a unit test for it, but then realised just hitting the db would have to do
<ljarvis> y u no read
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<yorickpeterse> effort
<ljarvis> heavens forbid
<yorickpeterse> oh neat, so I have this super important algorithm here
<yorickpeterse> which depends on the order of data
<yorickpeterse> but shits itself when the dates of each record (which is sorted on) are the same
<yorickpeterse> so basically if it processes records on the same data, it can at random give back a different result
<yorickpeterse> * date
<yorickpeterse> TESTS? OF COURSE NOT
<yorickpeterse> and it's not a small difference too: it's supposed to be 19.4 but at random will be 14.6
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<yorickpeterse> removing code is the best
<yorickpeterse> it's like tending to a little garden
<yorickpeterse> except I get to kick all the flowers
<yorickpeterse> http://i.imgur.com/JhPDQDe.png basically this
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<yorickpeterse> "15707 lines changed" aww yiss
<yorickpeterse> 6844 additions, 8863 removals (lots of code is being moved around)
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<hal_9000_> Greetings, all. I’m trying to re-form the habit of hanging out here. :)
<hal_9000_> who’s awake, anyway?
<havenwood> hal_9000_: hi
<hal_9000_> hi, havenwood
* workmad3 hides from the evil ai
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<hal_9000_> lol
<hal_9000_> not evil, just misunderstood
<hal_9000_> i’m curious - general question here - how many of you have heard of André Arko?
<ljarvis> hal_9000_: lots of people, probably
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<hal_9000_> ljarvis: meaning at least you have, then
<ljarvis> at least, yes
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<hal_9000_> k thx
<hal_9000_> fwiw. the people i have asked have not heard of him, including all my coworkers as well as Chad Fowler, Dave Thomas, Rich Kilmer, Jim Freeze, others
<ljarvis> ok..
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<hal_9000_> maybe he is better known in rails circles than ruby
<ljarvis> hal_9000_: is this going anywhere?
<ljarvis> well yeah, he's most popular for bundler i'd say
<hal_9000_> oh, that’s right, i remember that
<pipework> I've heard of him. He's super nice and cool.
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<pipework> I bet most people know him by his pseudonym Indirect
<hal_9000_> it’s not going anywhere, really. i just had one person tell me that AA was very well-known — but then I couldn’t find anyone who knew the name
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<pipework> What is 'it' in this context?
<hal_9000_> pipework: ljarvis just asked “is this going anywhere?”
<pipework> Oh so 'this' is your question?
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<hal_9000_> yes
<pipework> I bet if that person had used his pseudonym, Indirect, everyone would know.
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<pipework> I'm surprised that the people you named don't know Indirect by his first name though. I met Jim Freeze at rubyconf 2014, I didn't ever learn much on what he does other than a quick conversation.
<hal_9000_> mmm, maybe so. i still get the impression it’s mostly rails people who know him — although everyone knows bundler of course
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<ljarvis> this is a weird conversation
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<hal_9000_> Jim is one of the few people left who has been to *every* Ruby conference (original international)
<pipework> ljarvis: Talking about people is pretty common.
<hal_9000_> ljarvis: i didn’t mean it to be weird
<pipework> hal_9000_: you so weird! :D
<pipework> hal_9000_: If you have the ability to chat him up, tell him to come to ruby on ales.
<hal_9000_> i know andre, i have found him to be friendly and competent
<pipework> He's also one of the super nice rubyists.
<hal_9000_> what/where is ruby on ales?
<pipework> hal_9000_: https://ruby.onales.com/
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<hal_9000_> ahh cool
<hal_9000_> eric hodel still up there somewhere? ryan davis?
<pipework> up where?
<[spoiler]> lol
<[spoiler]> ruby on ales, love it
<pipework> In the pacific northwest?
<hal_9000_> Seattle as i recall
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<hal_9000_> oh, wait. duh. wrong state :)
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<[spoiler]> I kinda agree with ljarvis about this being an odd conversation. :o
<hal_9000_> i apologize if i have given a wrong impression
<workmad3> nah, this doesn't even rank in my top 100 odd conversations... :)
<[spoiler]> I meant odd as in uncommon
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<hal_9000_> it’s just that when i hear that “XYZ is a big deal” — usually a technology or website, not a person :) — and i hadn’t heard of XYZ — i ask other people about it/him/her
<workmad3> [spoiler]: ;)
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<hal_9000_> it’s true i’ve been too out of the loop in recent years
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<[spoiler]> hal_9000_: I'm the embodiment of "out of the loop" :P
<workmad3> hal_9000_: if it helps, I also didn't recognise the name... but I recognise 'indirect' and bundler :)
<workmad3> [spoiler]: hell, we define the loop by 'wherever [spoiler] isn't'
<hal_9000_> sure, everyone knows bundler now
<[spoiler]> psh
<workmad3> hal_9000_: I used bundler back when it was done by carlhuda ;)
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<hal_9000_> loop do important_stuff end; self # outside the loop!!
<workmad3> me: self; ed25519 </shameless-ego-stroking>
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<pipework> Nice curves.
<hal_9000_> i don’t see many names here that i remember actually
<pipework> where is 'here'? In the channel?
<hal_9000_> yes
<pipework> for the most part, IRC isn't cool for the people who're prominent rails developers from pre-2006.
<pipework> The mailing list is their haunt. Though certainly some of those people are here.
<hal_9000_> when i started hanging out here, it was all pre-rails rubyists :)
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<[spoiler]> Hmm. IIRC, I learned about Ruby through Rails, because a friend of mine landed a Rails job in SF
<workmad3> hal_9000_: I think you've been in a few times while I've been around :)
<[spoiler]> Well I *heard* of Ruby, but I never gave it a try
<[spoiler]> I mostly worked in C, and sometimes in PHP
<hal_9000_> i’m definitely trying to revisit my roots :)
<workmad3> hal_9000_: did you jump ship for haskell? or go? :)
<[spoiler]> Then Ruby happened, and it was like a Disney orgasm: wonderful
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<hal_9000_> workmad3: i have been using ruby all along, i just sort of lost contact with the mailing list and IRC
<loincloth> what
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<loincloth> the f
<workmad3> [spoiler]: we don't need to know what you waste your tissues on... :P
<hal_9000_> :P
<[spoiler]> ¬_¬
<hal_9000_> you know how an electrical engineer fakes an orgasm?
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<workmad3> (btw, I think this is now just touching into top 100...)
<workmad3> hal_9000_: I'm not sure I want to know... but go on
<hal_9000_> with an andgasm and three inverters
<workmad3> sigh
<[spoiler]> lol
<hal_9000_> imperator is still here sometimes, right?
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<[spoiler]> yep
<hal_9000_> what about drbrain or zenspider?
<[spoiler]> yep & yep
<pipework> How does a pentester achieve orgasm? nop sleds, like everything else.
<workmad3> hal_9000_: seeing as they're both idling in here atm... ;)
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<hal_9000_> are they?? i overlooked them in the list
<[spoiler]> Gosh how did this conversation about orgams stat even
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<workmad3> [spoiler]: it's your fault :P
<hal_9000_> true dat! :)
<workmad3> 17:25 < [spoiler]> Then Ruby happened, and it was like a Disney orgasm: wonderful
<workmad3> ^^ the start
<[spoiler]> oh come on
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<[spoiler]> It was an [almost]innocent thing
<workmad3> it was enough :P
<hal_9000_> funny — in my client, i *don’t* see drbrain or imperator idling here
<pipework> Get a better client? :D
<workmad3> hal_9000_: imperator isn't atm... but drbrain and zenspider are (or so my tab-complete tells me :) )
<[spoiler]> hal_9000_: they're /away, that could be why
<[spoiler]> no wait, zenspider isn't
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<[spoiler]> neither is drbrain; ok I fail
<pipework> Let's keep highlighting them to hell.
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<[spoiler]> LMAO
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<workmad3> pipework: if they haven't appeared by now, it's probably just their bouncers ;)
<sangwoojoo> 한글 테스트 Testing UTF-8 IRC..
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<pipework> workmad3: They have their own personal security?!
<workmad3> pipework: sure... irc is a dangerous place
<[spoiler]> pipework: Don't be daft.
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<workmad3> pipework: there's redheads and all on here!
<[spoiler]> They are ninjas, they don't need security
<workmad3> can't be too careful
<workmad3> [spoiler]: going by hal_9000_'s IRC client, ninja seems a good description ;)
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<[spoiler]> Hahaha
<nofxx> yorickpeterse, ah, I see... gonna make my regex smarter...
<nofxx> kshah, problably gonne but: a very simple way is using systemd, basically you don't have to do anything, just create a .service file
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<hal_9000_> out of curiosity, anyone here playing with elixir?
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<hal_9000_> because i sure am :)
<kshah> nofxx: still here, I was looking for a cross platform method, but ruby provides everything needed anyways, so even daemons is unnecessary though convenient
<workmad3> hal_9000_: I keep on meaning to... just haven't found the time recently :)
<hal_9000_> i understand that totally
<hal_9000_> it
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<hal_9000_> *it’s not OO, but it does have some bits inspired by ruby
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<[spoiler]> hal_9000_: I'm the same as workmad3 in that respect :P
<workmad3> hal_9000_: a good chunk of my spare time recently has been eaten up reading about React.js (for a work project) and various other bits and pieces that were on my radar
<nofxx> kshah, ahh, nice!
<hal_9000_> [spoiler]: hey, i’ve seen you before. on the back of a sports car
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<[spoiler]> hal_9000_: I don't understand that reference
<hal_9000_> i’m a bit of a dinosaur in that i’m Not Really a Web Guy
<hal_9000_> [spoiler]: sorry, dumb joke - spoiler, like on a car?
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<[spoiler]> Oh right an exhaust pipe
<[spoiler]> I forget about that lol
<workmad3> no, a spoiler isn't an exhaust...
<hal_9000_> no that’s something else
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<workmad3> I consider cars to basically be boxes on wheels, and even I know a spoiler isn't an exhaust :P
<hal_9000_> they’re not just boxes on wheels - they also have a stereo :)
<workmad3> hal_9000_: and a big turny thing inside that makes it go in different directions
<[spoiler]> ooh right
<[spoiler]> the spoiler is the thing on the boot
<hal_9000_> oh you’re a brit or something
<[spoiler]> I'm Croatian
<hal_9000_> i see
<workmad3> hal_9000_: are you objecting to calling it by the correct name? :)
<nofxx> usually if it's "aerodynamical" you can call it spoiler
<hal_9000_> the default english is “real” english of course
<nofxx> front or rear, down or up "wings"
<[spoiler]> but I have a British accent when I speak English, for whatever reason
<hal_9000_> workmad3:
<hal_9000_> I don’t objject :)
<hal_9000_> that’s common actually i think
<workmad3> :)
<nofxx> I prefer bikes =D
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<hal_9000_> so what kind of projects are you guys into?
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<nofxx> $/G-force ratio... car just can't beat a 130hp 170kg bike
<[spoiler]> hal_9000_: not much, just work stuff, and I'm preparing myself to write a documentation for mruby sometime soon
<[spoiler]> and examples
<hal_9000_> mruby?
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<hal_9000_> ahh. is that what used to be called miniruby?
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<[spoiler]> I've decided to use mruby for a project and I've been writing a documentation for myself, so I'll prob make it pretty-looking, remove all the swearing and the like
<[spoiler]> and then make a pull requesy
<[spoiler]> request
<hal_9000_> swearing, lol
<workmad3> hal_9000_: mostly work tbh
<hal_9000_> i started a fun project last year, but haven’t touched it in too long
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<workmad3> hal_9000_: heh :) is it awful that I'd personally just pull out well-formed IP addresses (consisting of \d{1,3}(\.\d{1,3}){3} ) and then validate them? :)
<hal_9000_> it’s not awful if it works for you :)
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<workmad3> hal_9000_: not to mention you're doing a bit of a straw-man argument... 'ip_byte = "(25[0-5]|2[0-4]\d|([01])?(\d){1,2})"; ip_address = /#{ip_byte}(\.#{ip_byte){3}/
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<workmad3> err, with an extra } in there
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<hal_9000_> true, yes
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<hal_9000_> but i still find regex notation overly complex in general
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<hal_9000_> although the smartest people i know disagree :)
<[spoiler]> Idk regexp is nice sometimes, I don't think it's too complicated
<hal_9000_> rather like the guy (backus?) whoi said, “why would anypne ever use a ‘high-level’ lamguage?”
<workmad3> hal_9000_: you can certainly construct some absolutely appalling regular expressions
<hal_9000_> anything you already know seems fairly simple, i think
<hal_9000_> i have seen regexes dozens of lines long
<workmad3> the level of regexp I tend to use is fairly simple, IMO
<hal_9000_> yes. i personally would use more complex ones if i didn’t find them so difficult
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<hal_9000_> lunch brb :)
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<workmad3> hal_9000_: the advantage of regexp is that it's really terse... but that makes it unsuitable for complicated uses, IMO :)
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<workmad3> hal_9000_: but for small bits of pattern matching, such as you'd do in tokenising some input or finding certain bits of a large glob of text, you can do a lot with a few simple regexp :)
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<apeiros> regexp is a DSL
<apeiros> as such, it has all the advantages and disadvantages DSLs have
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<workmad3> ^^ :)
<workmad3> the main advantage of regexp in particular is, I feel, terseness
<apeiros> yes
<apeiros> which can mean it's more readable, but perversely it can mean the opposite too
<apeiros> and if you don't believe the "more readable". try to rewrite a not-too-complex regex in english.
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<apeiros> have fun reading and understanding it.
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<apeiros> (and then imagine a more complex regex…)
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<workmad3> apeiros: or hell, just rewrite it using built-in ruby string comparisons
<apeiros> that will make it even more obvious :)
<workmad3> (admittedly, what you then do is implement a crappy partial regexp engine... :) )
<apeiros> most likely
<workmad3> right, must get the tram home
<workmad3> later all
<apeiros> tram? nice :) cya
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<headius> whitequark: how do I select ranges of lines in your IRC logger?
<headius> the usual suspects aren't working for me
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<yorickpeterse> nofxx_: what are you trying to do with the syntastic output?
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<yorickpeterse> headius: click a timestamp, then shift click another one
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<[spoiler]> yorickpeterse: do you happen to know why a singleton class is created internally during the evaluation of instance_eval?
<headius> yorickpeterse: ahh, thanks
<[spoiler]> well not "created" but "invoked" or whatever
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<yorickpeterse> [spoiler]: euh, what?
<[spoiler]> when you do instance_eval, the block is actually executed on the object's singleton class
<[spoiler]> erm, sorry; I mean the singleton class is `self`
<yorickpeterse> You mean a bare `instance_eval { ... }`?
<[spoiler]> nope
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<[spoiler]> poop.instance_eval {}
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<yorickpeterse> if poop is an instance then it should evaluate it on the instance, not a singleton class
<yorickpeterse> well, to be exact:
<yorickpeterse> it gets the class and evaluates it against that, but makes everything available on instance level
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<[spoiler]> Oh wait shit
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<[spoiler]> no this is not what happens, but a singleton class is still passed to eval_under
<yorickpeterse> Looking at the MRI code there's some conditional that determines whether or not it should use a class or a singleton class
<[spoiler]> *looks in eval_under
<yorickpeterse> but I'm not familiar with the semantics of it
<[spoiler]> yeah
<[spoiler]> ah thanks
<[spoiler]> I'll just look into it, I just thought you might know off the top of your head
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<yorickpeterse> nop
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<yorickpeterse> watching bob ross is so relaxing
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<yorickpeterse> dat haircut doe
<hal_9000_> lol
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<yorickpeterse> Somebody should do this but for coding
<yorickpeterse> "In our world there are no bugs, just happy little incidents"
<hal_9000_> alas, poor yorickpeterse
<yorickpeterse> "lets say our little friend here is dealing with financial data. Lets just give them some floats"
<yorickpeterse> "Remember, no bugs, just happy little incidents"
<hal_9000_> as long as i can reroute the roundoff error into my own account
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<pipework> hal_9000_: Well, you'd want to route it around so that you turn it into bitcoin from some account that's not traceable to you, then route the money through a laundering scheme, then to your account.
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<brownbathrobe> hey folks, ok to ask Rails questions here?
<tbuehlmann> there's #rubyonrails
<brownbathrobe> tbuehlmann: thanks
<[spoiler]> yorickpeterse: LOL @ "happy little incidents"
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<sangwoojoo> $my_project_path_console> rspec spec --format nested
<sangwoojoo> /home/sangwoojoo/.rvm/gems/ruby-2.2.0/gems/rspec-core-3.1.7/lib/rspec/core/option_parser.rb:16:in `parse': missing argument: --format (OptionParser::MissingArgument)
<sangwoojoo> Did I missed something?
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<[spoiler]> yorickpeterse: oh I figured out why the singleton class is created/invoked
<[spoiler]> I really wanna use the term "summoned" but it seems very occult.
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<hal_9000_> manifested? :)
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<[spoiler]> hal_9000_: Lol :-)
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<yorickpeterse> man I'm such a fucking nerd
<yorickpeterse> I'm debating here if I really should move from context/example to describe/it in rspec
<yorickpeterse> (I used the latter for years, then switched to the former for...reasons)
<yorickpeterse> and there's this one half of me that goes "nooooooo" and the other half goes "everybody else uses it, just do it and make it easier for yourself"
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<yorickpeterse> fukit, it/describe it is
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<yxhuvud> I use specify sometimes when I feel it reads better.
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<nofxx_> yorickpeterse, the one with less characters wins
<yorickpeterse> clearly we should just use test_if_a_user_picks_their_nose
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<nofxx_> assert(foo, bar) too, its just so confusing, non descriptive... I mean, even if 99% time you use 'equal' feels wrong it's not there
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<yorickpeterse> oh I hate the new rspec syntax
<yorickpeterse> I re-enabled the should syntax everywhere I use rspec
<nofxx_> pretty much prefer expect(foo).to eq true ... was testing minispec too, yeah, to look like old rspec yorickpeterse
<nofxx_> foo.must_be_true
<nofxx_> kinda looks like... but that was removed so there's no monkeypatching the subject etc etc etc
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<nofxx_> problably going to be removed from minispec too?
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<nofxx_> was deprecated in rspec*
<nofxx_> expect(foo).to over foo.should
<nofxx_> yorickpeterse, I've used transpec... works very nice
<yorickpeterse> I believe the rspec team has no intention of actually removing "should"
<yorickpeterse> nofxx_: I know, so have I
<nofxx_> yorickpeterse, hmm, I see
<yorickpeterse> However, everybody on my team (inc me) hates writing "expect(X).to eq(Y)
<yorickpeterse> vs x.should == y
<hal_9000_> may i ask why people prefer th *spec style tesing rather than e.g. minitest style?
<nofxx_> hal_9000_, was just saying... it reads better and feels right
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<hal_9000_> ok
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<nofxx_> hal_9000_, and it's way faster to type
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<hal_9000_> matter of preference of course - i just prefer “real ruby” like assert_equal(x, y)
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<hal_9000_> not that the other is unreal — i just find it “magicky”
<nofxx_> hal_9000_, I disagree it's real ruby. I never did if check_for_equality(a, b) , you'll always do if a.something?(b)
<nofxx_> the former looks python
<hal_9000_> i just don’t really know what kind of object has a .to method, or what eq() really is, etc.
<nofxx_> hal_9000_, yeah... eq is just alias for ==, cause it'll look ugly: expect(a).to == b , but I guess it works
<nofxx_> should rspec: a.should == b , looks good
<hal_9000_> if ruby had macros, i would prefer a solution like that… assert { a == b }
<nofxx_> but eq looks better imho: a.should eq(b) , I mean... it's really readable
<nofxx_> hal_9000_, I like that way better... at least the check is explicit
<loincloth> i miss assert_* hal_9000_
<loincloth> i feel you
<[spoiler]> Tsk. Friend just ditched me for sleep. I can't believe this ¬_¬
<[spoiler]> oops wrong channel
<[spoiler]> wrong network even
<yorickpeterse> tssk tssk
<yorickpeterse> what a louzy friend
<loincloth> you talk like you've never slept
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<[spoiler]> See, yorickpeterse understands. Humpf.
<[spoiler]> loincloth: Yeah, but we were supposed to do something tonight, and we were talking about it all week!
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<yorickpeterse> I feelz ya
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<yorickpeterse> lol activesupport: pluralizes "do not" to "dos not"
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<yorickpeterse> well to be exact it pluralizes "do" to "dos"
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<hal_9000_> hmmm, well, that is sort of vvalid in a way i guess :)
<hal_9000_> to-do, to-dos
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<yorickpeterse> other than that my little converter script is doing ok
<yorickpeterse> yay for not having to run sed 15m times
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<yorickpeterse> " 182 files changed, 1444 insertions(+), 1444 deletions(-)"
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<[spoiler]> dos pinas!
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<yorickpeterse> "assignings" lol
<yorickpeterse> "it 'automaticallies load constant paths'"
<yorickpeterse> silly activesupport
<hal_9000_> wee speek engrish hear!
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<nofxx_> also person -> people which aint always true
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<hal_9000_> hm, when is that ot true?
<nofxx_> eg Juridic Person, btw.. how do you call that in you guys country? Physic Person / Juridic Person (company/enterprise)
<apeiros> persons is a valid plural of person for certain situations
<nofxx_> hal_9000_, not a native english speaker, but been told people means a group of individuals, not exaclty persons... which is correct
<hal_9000_> oh ok
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<nofxx_> and it's really not O/T my question heh, I'm modeling those two kind of 'person' in ruby
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<hal_9000_> is there maybe a way to override plurals? i don’t know
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<apeiros> yes
<nofxx_> hal_9000_, yup, config/inflectors.rb
<nofxx_> or is initializer
<yorickpeterse> clearly we should just use peoples
<hal_9000_> i assumed there would be a way
<hal_9000_> person -> d00dz
<nofxx_> So how do you call that in you guys country? PhysicPerson (dude ;) / JuridicPerson (company/enterprise)
<hal_9000_> i am not sure what you mean - sounds like maybe you are talking about doctors and judges?
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<yxhuvud> juridic people can be companies as well as normal people.
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<yorickpeterse> "93 files changed, 492 insertions(+), 492 deletions(-)" yay another project done
<nofxx_> hal_9000_, JuridicPerson == LegalPerson ... sounds better?
<[spoiler]> Isn't "persons" the most correct way?
<hal_9000_> ok - i don’t know the word juridic
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<[spoiler]> Idk what the topic of conversation is, I just saw "peoples" and had to join
<nofxx_> yxhuvud, true, but that'll be a company of one owner
<hal_9000_> truthfully i don’t know - i rarely hear the word “persons” at all
<nofxx_> here we call it "individual micro enterpreneur" heh
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<hal_9000_> mostly in the legal jargon “person or persons unknown” who committed a crime :)
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<hal_9000_> i sometimes hear “personnel” :) which i guess is a collective noun
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<[spoiler]> personnel is something else, though
<[spoiler]> personnel usually references a body of staff
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<loincloth> hey any thor users receiving this?
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<Radar> loincloth: I use thor.
<bradland> i use thor as well
<Guest73605> i once used thor almost as well
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<pipework> almost using thor must be just like actually using thor, eh?
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<bradland> i accidentally use ruby all th etime
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<[spoiler]> Oops! I ruby'd
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<[spoiler]> Anyway. I'm off to bed, foil! Have a good night
<[spoiler]> folk, not foil
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