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|jemc|: yeah but the variable it uses is the same one that ruby uses, so that's probably idiomatic
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Hello guys, I made a gem to build an interactive Hierarchical Edge Bundling graph based on gem dependencies from your Gemfile
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Outputs are interesting
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criticisms welcome
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you missed out on an opportunity to call it gemologist, or even gemographer lol
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other that that it looks pretty cool
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fun to see how things interact like that
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uh, this is very odd...
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is there something in ruby 1.9 that would override the behavior of a method named to_h or to_hash?
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timanema: thank you
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timanema: do you have any suggestions ?
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I have a to_h and to_hash method in a class, and they are both returning nil for no apparent reason
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Xzyx987X: gist please
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I added a method called foobar with the exact same code, and it returns the correct value
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I don't want to upload my entire code. if this is my fault I can figure it out
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which is why it is called gist
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I was just wondering if this was an issue that has to do with the way ruby 1.9 handles those methods
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sivsushruth: It would be interesting to somehow work in the versions being used as well
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timanema: yes, that is my next dev goal
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\ HELP
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sivsushruth: that's really annoying
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spamming on IRC is not a great way to get attention for your pet project
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sivsushruth >
apologies
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ljarvis >
wow that index file is 7 thousand lines long
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yorickpeterse >
morning
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Eising >
morning yorickpeterse
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ruby-lang380 >
Hye guys!!, can someone suggest me any good tutorial to create REST API with sinatra
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Eising >
there are a few out there
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Eising >
I googled for you
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ruby-lang380 >
@Eising yep it's great i already finished it
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ruby-lang380 >
I'm looking something look like rails
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ruby-lang380 >
MVC for REST API
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ruby-lang380 >
I found lot of tutorial but there are each and everything related to particular stuff written in routs itself
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Eising >
ruby-lang380: so is sinatra. You have to separate it yourself in mvc files if you want that
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ruby-lang380 >
yep, that's why i want to learn it
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Eising >
let me see if I can find some of the sinatra tutorials that I used to make it more modular
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ruby-lang380 >
but i'm looking for a tutorial help me out to learn how can i breakdown it in MVC architecture
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Eising >
this one led me in the right direction
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Eising >
I don't follow it completely, but it helped me
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ruby-lang380 >
Thanks man!!
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ruby-lang380 >
Can you please suggest me some book to learn Ruby
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Eising >
but be careful. You end up reimplementing rails, just not as good
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Eising >
nah, I haven't read a ruby book, well, ever.
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ruby-lang380 >
NP :)
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ruby-lang380 >
Thanks man!!
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Eising >
no problem :)
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yorickpeterse >
only a few small problems overnight with our new setup :D
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yorickpeterse >
and none are DB related, they're just code expecting bullshit that's not there anymore
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yorickpeterse >
Maybe I should /nick postgrespeterse
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bbbb >
i want to ask that iam in a position that i have to learn ruby and javascript together
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bbbb >
is that going to confuse me????
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tobiasvl >
do you know any other languages?
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tobiasvl >
then probably focus on one of them first.
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bbbb >
javascript is c-based or java-based????
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ljarvis >
what does that even mean
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workmad3 >
javascript is... javascript
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tomorrow >
Whats the fastest way to group like this?
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ljarvis >
tomorrow: what's the logic?
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[spoiler] >
tomorrow, I don't understand the problem to be honest...
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tobiasvl >
bbbb: javascript has nothing to do with java despite the name. its syntax is reminiscent of C and Java though, in that they're a group of languages that have C-inspired syntax. apart from that they're not similar at all
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tobiasvl >
bbbb: Java is object-oriented, C is procedural, JavaScript is prototype-based
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bbbb >
and is there any similarity between javascript and ruby???
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ljarvis >
yes, they're programming languages
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[spoiler] >
tomorrow, how is my day gonna be?
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[spoiler] >
ljarvis, lol
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[spoiler] >
How generalist of you
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tobiasvl >
bbbb: not really no
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tomorrow >
logic... well there are N arrays and they can have same words. I need to group by this words.
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workmad3 >
they're both turing complete... they're both written with keyboards...
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ljarvis >
but seriously, open a book.. read a wiki page
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tomorrow: the same words? I dont see any logic that would group the arrays like you want
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bbbb >
so you say they are both different language????(ruby and javascript)???....i know some ruby but dont know any of javascript
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ljarvis >
bbbb: please stop trolling
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tomorrow: oh... you want to group into arrays where each array contains a form of transitive clousure over the source arrays
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tomorrow >
workmad3, i guess so....
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ljarvis >
workmad3: that doesn't work?
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workmad3 >
tomorrow: so that if in the source you have two arrays, ['a', 'b'] and ['b', 'd'], then in the output you'd have ['a', 'b', 'd'] because a is with b, and b is with d
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bbbb >
how am i trolling by asking for review of others ????
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tomorrow >
workmad3, exactly)
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bbbb >
review is bad word
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bbbb >
opinion is a right word
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bbbb: yes, ruby and javascript are completely different languages.
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tobiasvl >
that's not opinion, it's fact. read up on the languages on wikipedia or something
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ljarvis >
bbbb: you don't need to add 4 question marks to get your point across. JavaScript and Ruby are both languages. If you know some Ruby then you'll be able to pick up JavaScript fairly easily. You should be able to write them in tandum without any problems
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ljarvis >
last time I use any fancy words
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... it's not even fancy
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workmad3 >
tomorrow: it's quite a convoluted process, producing that sort of thing... take for example a source of [["a", "b", "d"], ["e", "f"], ["d", "f"]]... you'd need to have some backwards-chaining that can merge together distinct items in the output when a 'linking record' is found
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workmad3 >
tomorrow: without that merging, you'd probably end up with an output of [["a", "b", "d", "f"], ["e", "f"]]
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tomorrow >
workmad3, problem is there can be lots of pretty huge arrays and I dont want to use recursion too much.
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workmad3 >
tomorrow: well, you could probably do it with a non-recursive, 2-pass approach
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ljarvis >
don't you only need reference to the previous element?
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workmad3 >
ljarvis: no, there's no guarantee that the previous element would be connected to this one, and there's no guarantees about when a 'link' could be discovered... at least, aiui
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ljarvis >
this example still confuses me anyway, pretty sure with some real data there would be something more obvious
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workmad3 >
ljarvis: it's computing transitive closures
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ljarvis >
yeah I got that
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ljarvis >
still dont see why you can't 1-pass it, but anyway
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workmad3 >
ljarvis: you could... it would just be a bit more complicated :)
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or at least, I thought it would be more complicated... thinking through a 2-pass approach, I'm not rethinking that view
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ljarvis >
it would be a bit more complex, but i dont think it would be mind blowing
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ljarvis >
depends how easily minds are blown!
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ruby-lang669 >
for real
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ruby-lang669 >
i thought you were talking about the chat
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ljarvis >
workmad3: nice one, I had something similar in my head, but it came to a few more lines :)
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ljarvis >
although I do everything a while loop in my head, I basically write C and then optimise as I write Ruby. That's weird, isn't it
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yorickpeterse >
NOTE TO SELF
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yorickpeterse >
ALWAYS
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yorickpeterse >
ALWAYS ADD/DROP INDEXES CONCURRENTLY IN POSTGRES
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yorickpeterse >
otherwise 2 apps will go down
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yorickpeterse >
lel
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yorickpeterse >
First API downtime in months :<
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dunno if it's weird... but when it comes to this sort of processing, I tend to start off thinking in terms of map/reduce/filters nowadays
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ljarvis >
that's far too functional for me :P
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workmad3 >
yorickpeterse: bad coder, no more coffee for you :P
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tobiasvl >
that's good workmad3
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ljarvis: I don't tend to manage it too much in day-to-day coding... but when a problem is presented as 'I need to change this input into this output', my mind starts thinking 'can I map it? can I use inject? how does the number of input items relate to the number of outputs? is it filtered?'
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ljarvis >
workmad3: yeah, I think I do that too but at a later stage
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tomorrow >
workmad3, omg, this block of code is way beyond my ruby skills. thx!
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ljarvis >
my brain is extremely precedural when I first approach a problem
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workmad3 >
tomorrow: please try to understand it before using it then
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workmad3 >
tomorrow: make sure you know what each bit does, at least roughly, so you can satisfy yourself that it solves your problem correctly
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workmad3 >
and if it has a bug or edge-case due to dirty data, you'll need to know where to sort it ;)
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ljarvis >
yep, on irc
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tomorrow >
workmad3, sure. just there are methods that i even didnt know exist. thx again for help)
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workmad3 >
tomorrow: heh :) it's always fun when someone uses a method you didn't know existed and you're like "wat!!! I used to write a dozen lines to do that!"
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workmad3 >
(I had that the other day when arup showed off slice_when, slice_before and slice_after in 2.2 :) )
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ljarvis >
slice_when orly
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ljarvis >
I knew of the others
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ljarvis >
jeez, Ruby
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ljarvis: he used slice_when first... and I promptly reimplemented slice_before using slice_when before realising slice_before existed
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>> "foo bar".tr_s('o', 'a')
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llvm is awesome
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also sacked off flex and bison and hand rolling a lexer/parser instead \o/
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ljarvis: bro use Ragel already
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No seriously, Ragel is nice
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takes some getting used to, but it's really powerful
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did you use that for your xpath parser?
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I'm using it for lexing XML, CSS and XPath
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whitequark uses it in the parser Gem to lex Rubby
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it's why he drinks at night
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Downside of the Ruby layer of Ragel is that you need quite some boilerplate
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The C boilerplate is much smaller
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Do anyone have a tip on a book to learn the Ruby language?
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nooo not the pickaxe
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yorickpeterse: cheers I'll check it out
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I've never read it tbf; I never read any ruby books
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Isn't the pickaxe 10 years old by now?
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so not sure how well it is, but pep[;e seem to like it
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yorickpeterse, apparently it's updated
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* chris2
never read a ruby book other than pickaxe :D
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(not entirely true)
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i learned using the original pickaxe too
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actually I knew some before that but it bolstered my ruby knowledge
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but it's a terrible Ruby book imo.. the reference was always good, though
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hi all, beginner here im afraid!.....
http://pastebin.com/wQKchJv6 i would like to get a list of names where the mac address matches....could someone point me in the right direction please :)
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oh wait I will add some comments
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I'm off. Cheers, guys!
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djbell >
anyone from ruby-lang.com here -- the ftp setup is fubar'ed -- getting "500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot()"
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hsbt: ftp.ruby-lang.org is reporting: 500 OOPS: vsftpd: refusing to run with writable root inside chroot()
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djbell: ↑
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yeah, that's the problem -- what's the solution?
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drbrain >
I'm not sure if hsbt is online to fix it, though
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drbrain >
djbell: wait for hsbt to wake up I guess
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djbell: you should be able to download from HTTP on the same URL
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drbrain: sadly its being used by a tool I have no access to modify
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yay automation ;)
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not urgent -- I can wait for it to be morning in Tokyo
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it's early morning, so maybe not too long?
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darix >
ridders24: it would help if your pasting would also contain the code you try to run
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wallerdev >
what OS?
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did you install libgmp3-dev
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just tried sudo apt-get install libgmp3-dev build-essential, no improvement though
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