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<boozler_> Using the serialport gem, I start a new thread that listens for incomming data on the serial port. When I do this it eats up 100% cpu. Is there a way to avoid this?
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<boozler_> I did this once a few years ago, I seem to remember a simple solution like sleep 0.05 or something but that doesnt work...
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<cdtaylor> Hello.
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<loopoo> Hi!
<cdtaylor> How goes it?
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<loopoo> Going great, for you?
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<cdtaylor> I'm new to Ruby/programming. Anyway -- my observation is there's a tendency that Python is used by Windows/Linux guys and Ruby by OSX guys. Is it only me?
<cdtaylor> It's going alright.
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<womble> I think it's only you.
<cdtaylor> Well suppose I'm biased.
<loopoo> Im a Linux guy, I think it works great on both OSX, linux and windows. Worst on windows, best on linux :)
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<cdtaylor> I used to be a Linux guy, then realized I can do all I did in Linux on OSX without having to worry about an update overwiting my config files I spent hours tweaking to get my video card to work. (:
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<loopoo> True, but Mac is too expencive. Im not a rich guy ;p
<cdtaylor> Yeah, I suppose when it comes to my video card, I either have a choice between Intel or the $400 option....
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<loopoo> What video card do you use? I have newer had a problem with it on Arch or Ubuntu. Maby Im just lucky.
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<cdtaylor> I really don't think Macs are "more expensive," though. Compare it to similar hardware (ie. metal chassis, high-quality, color accurate screen, good trackpads, etc), it's about the same price. You just don't have the choice for "cheap" options like an i3 inside a plastic body with a screen with horrible viewing angles but only cost $300.
<cdtaylor> Hmm, I forget what video cards I've used on Linux machines, but I've always had problem if I wanted any sort of 3d performance or wanted to use Gnome 3.
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<cdtaylor> Or god, the days of ndiswrapper. That was a headache.
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<cdtaylor> Using my sieve-based Prime Number calculator to calculate prime numbers under 4,000,000,000 sure is taking a lot longer in Ruby than a C version I've seen.
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<womble> Low-level bit-twiddling language beats intepreted language at low-level bit-twiddling: film at 11!
<cdtaylor> :) I kinda regret not rewriting the code to not print every prime to terminal.
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<womble> Whoops.
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<cdtaylor> So, exercism and euler exercises are getting pretty boring. How/where do I get started writing "real and useful code"?
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<apeiros_> think of something which itches you. solve it.
<womble> cdtaylor: Wot 'e said.
<womble> Scratch them itches.
<cdtaylor> Nope, no itches.
* womble hands cdtaylor a packet of eItching powder
<cdtaylor> Oh, if only.
<loopoo> ^^^
<[spoiler]> Idk why I automtically assumed itches down-there
<womble> I *was* going to suggest wearing the same underwear for a week or so.
<[spoiler]> Lmao
<cdtaylor> I just can't seem to think of anything to program between the levels of "lol maybe 3 classes" and "omfg months of programming and much experience required to complete"
<[spoiler]> Still way more innocent than what I imagined]
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<loopoo> Im also having problems figuring out what to code when I want to practice. Often just look at open source projects and try to help or look for practices online
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<[spoiler]> cdtaylor: I am actually more impressed by a useful "lol 3 classes" library than something that uses 50 classes and requires you to read the documentation for 5 hours before you can use it. Complex software does not imply good software
<womble> cdtaylor: I remember that feeling. I just came to terms with the fact that I didn't have the patience for the "months of programming" projects, and I just knock out large quantities of little stuff.
<cdtaylor> The problem with that, is it's way above my level.
<[spoiler]> 50 hours*
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<loopoo> spoiler: Simplicity is the key
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<cdtaylor> Or maybe I could stop trying to do "real" coding for a little while and actually getting around to reading Chamond Liu's book on Smalltalk I have hanging out.
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<[spoiler]> loopoo: "Simplicity is the ultimate sophistication" :-)
<loopoo> Hehe, true that! :)
<loopoo> Albert is a smart fellow :)
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<loopoo> cdtaylor: I have not read that book but it seems pretty good!
<cdtaylor> loopoo: I learned more about OOP in the first like chapter of that book than anything I've read online.
<loopoo> [spoiler]: Shit, ment that Leonardo is a smart fellow ;p
<[spoiler]> loopoo: Oh I assumed you said that to someone else lol
<[spoiler]> The Albert thing
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<loopoo> [spoiler]: Aha ok :) Ok, than I really have to read that book! Will download it when I come home :)
<ljarvis> moin
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<[spoiler]> morning, ljarvis
<loopoo> Morning
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<Eising> morning
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<ruby-lang728> hi
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<dev_> p "hello"
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<dev_> @ddd
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<loopoo> puts"Hello"
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<nofxx> >> RUBY_PLATFORM
<eval-in_> nofxx => "i686-linux" (https://eval.in/265987)
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<nofxx> >> RUBY_VERSION
<eval-in_> nofxx => "2.2.0" (https://eval.in/265988)
<nofxx> bot is up to date ;)
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<ljarvis> 1.0>> RUBY_VERSION
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<ljarvis> 1>> RUBY_VERSION
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<ljarvis> ow i forgot the syntax
<ljarvis> 18>> RUBY_VERSION
<eval-in_> ljarvis => "1.8.7" (https://eval.in/266049)
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<nofxx> ljarvis, fancy!
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<yorickpeterse> hello children
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<ljarvis> g'day sir rant-a-lot
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<yorickpeterse> o8
<yorickpeterse> fuck
<yorickpeterse> o7
<yorickpeterse> that one
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<chrisdaish> Morning all, Im attempting to add proxy support to https://github.com/sensu/sensu-community-plugins/blob/master/handlers/notification/slack.rb Gist: https://gist.github.com/chrisdaish/273fc5ed21e5c7ac2cd9 however no dice, does the syntax look OK?
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<riotjones> chrisdaish: which proxy protocol?
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<chrisdaish> http
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<chrisdaish> riotjones: I thought I had cracked it by extending the method with the proxy args, but alas not
<chrisdaish> does the proxy need to be added to the POST method also?
<riotjones> hmm
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<riotjones> chrisdaish: try this way: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/b34a2e94a4aad050d599
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<chrisdaish> line now reads: http = Net::HTTP::Proxy(proxy.host, proxy.port).new(url.host, url.port)
<chrisdaish> Will give it a go
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<chrisdaish> still no joy riotjones
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<riotjones> hmm unsupported proxy?
<chrisdaish> just looks like a squid proxy
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<DefV_> deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze-lts main contrib non-free
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<yorickpeterse> DefV_: can't do that for you
<DefV_> :-)
<DefV_> E_PASTE
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<ljarvis> sounds like some kind of internet spread
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<darix> DefV_: "On the one hand and on the other hand, this forces users to upgrade at least once per year" LTS considered harmful:
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<DefV_> darix: server-upgrading is a pipe dream as soon as you run software on it
<DefV_> I mean, I'd love to upgrade my squeeze machine, but then I'd have to upgrade PHP, which breaks 4 of the 6 custom-written applications running on the server
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<darix> DefV_: the main problem is you dont ugprade often enough. if upgrading would be more common, then you would regularly test your custom apps with e.g. newer php and would find the errors gradually instead of in one big work effort.
<darix> DefV_: you know like we do with libraries using CI
<DefV_> darix: but I don't want to spend money all the time letting applications get fixed
<DefV_> (I know that's a stupid reason)
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<darix> DefV_: the money you will pay for fixing it in bulk or gradually will end up the same.
<DefV_> yes, so I choose not to upgrade at all
<darix> the bulk fixing might even be more expensive
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<darix> DefV_: that will definitely work nicely
<darix> :)
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<DefV_> it will
<DefV_> until it doesn't
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<Ez> Hey guys
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<yorickpeterse> Rails logic:
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<yorickpeterse> A field type is varchar, thus the HTML element is <input type="text">
<yorickpeterse> A field type is text, then surely the HTML element is <textarea> right?
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<ljarvis> that's how it's always worked for me
<yorickpeterse> "Postgresql? text types by default? what's that?"
<ljarvis> that's not rails' problem
<ljarvis> it's ambiguous
<yorickpeterse> The assumption of "text == textarea, always" is broken
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<yorickpeterse> or at least so in case of postgresql
<ljarvis> should it guess? or be random?
<ljarvis> I think it's a fine default
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<ljarvis> (fwiw I have visited this problem becase I also use text type columns for everything)
<yorickpeterse> :as => :string all the things
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<ljarvis> tbh, the formbuilder in rails is shit anyway
<ljarvis> I almost always use something like simple_form. Not saying it fixes this issue, but it's much nicer to customise
<yorickpeterse> lol, how this code constructs a label for a company name:
<yorickpeterse> "company" translation + " " + "name" translation
<yorickpeterse> surely every language uses two words for that
<yorickpeterse> and surely all of them are LTR
<yorickpeterse> granted multi-lingual stuff is hard in general
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<ljarvis> you sometimes rant about some odd things
<yorickpeterse> hi I'm yorick, nice to meet you
<ljarvis> you'd think I'd have learned by now eh
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<yorickpeterse> Don't blame you, it's hard to understand the mind of a genius and thought leader
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<ljarvis> yep
<ljarvis> Here lye yorickpeterse. Genius. Thought leader. JavaBean.
<yorickpeterse> RIP
<ljarvis> RIP in pieces
<apeiros_> watwatwat?
<apeiros_> yorickpeterse is no longer a thought leader in training?
<yorickpeterse> pffft, I was born ready
<yorickpeterse> need no training
<yorickpeterse> also, just by hearing the term "thought leader" I get angry
<yorickpeterse> same as when people call themselves "rockstar"
<apeiros_> you prefer thought followers?
<apeiros_> or even thought subordinates?
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<yorickpeterse> Unless you actually play in a rock band and are well known you're not a rockstar
<ljarvis> what about code ninja
<yorickpeterse> ugh
<ljarvis> that's a popular one
<yorickpeterse> I don't think code is a brutal killing machine nobody ever notices
<yorickpeterse> or a programmer for that matter
* apeiros_ is a code ninja engineer rockstar leader
<ljarvis> ^
<ljarvis> +1
<apeiros_> you can just call me guru.
<ljarvis> you can call me the code sensai
<apeiros_> oooooh
<ljarvis> sensei* >.<
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<apeiros_> yeah, you said code, not orthography
<ljarvis> :(
<apeiros_> "master of the universe" would also be a nice fit on the business card.
<ljarvis> not sure about master
<ljarvis> king of the universe
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<apeiros_> don't say you're too young to get this reference… :-S
<yorickpeterse> I'm 12, so probably
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<ljarvis> I know who he-man is, doesn't change my reply
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<tokp> Hi :) I need write a simple script in Ruby. Anybody can help me with this ?
<canton7> if you've got specific questions we can answer them, but we're not going to write your script for you :)
<tokp> ok ;]
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<tokp> I use command exec('ssh login@ip_server')
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<tokp> to connect with ssh server
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<tokp> how can i run next shell command when connection is done
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<tokp> ?
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<canton7> I don't think you can. exec replaces the current process with the exec'd process
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<tokp> thank you very much :)
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<[spoiler]> Lol I love how weechat is "responsive" depending on width/height of the terminal
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<yorickpeterse> it was responsive before it was cool
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<darix> [spoiler]: which well written ncurses app isnt?!
<darix> o.O
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<[spoiler]> darix: oh I rarely use ncruses apps to be fair
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<darix> [spoiler]: and your irssi before didnt respond?
<darix> or are you comparing screen+irssi vs let's say tmux+weechat?
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<[spoiler]> darix: using it inside screen actually; doesn't appear to be responsive in screen (at least not through kitty, I have no idea if kitty forwards terminal width, or if it just wraps text on its own)
<darix> [spoiler]: my irssi changes its size
<darix> the only problem is
<darix> if you attach a screen multiple time
<darix> it will keep the size
<darix> tmux handles that better
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<jefus> i'm not sure what we're talking about specifically but just want to comment that i was having screen size issues after getting disconnected from my session
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<jefus> only just discovered tmux attach -d fixed that for me
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<[spoiler]> darix: hmm I don't like tmux adds an additional bar at the bott-- actually I don't really care
<[spoiler]> let me relaunch it in tmux :P
<darix> [spoiler]: i am sure you can turn the bar off
<[spoiler]> idm the bar
<[spoiler]> lol
<[spoiler]> brb
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<svajone_> Hello. :D
<svajone_> I am back, the super questionnaire. Haha.
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<svajone_> Quick regex (I suck dearly at this), How would I match percentage, precision => 1?
<bougyman> show me some text.
<apeiros_> svajone_: what did you try?
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<apeiros_> rubular.com is good to show your tries.
<svajone_> to be honest, nothing. :D
<svajone_> Looking through tutorials. :D
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<apeiros_> svajone_: so you just want us to do your work? that's not very nice.
<svajone_> No. I actually want to learn the basics.
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<apeiros_> ok. if you really want to learn it, you should try it yourself first.
<svajone_> Okie. :d
<[spoiler]> oh I forgot to switch to tmux
* [spoiler] facepalms
<[spoiler]> brb for real this time
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<[spoiler]> oh weird
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<[spoiler]> it's not respive apparently
<[spoiler]> :|
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<[spoiler]> oh it's
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<[spoiler]> nvm
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<[spoiler]> I could've dworn the nick list would hide when I made the terminal window smaller, though
<[spoiler]> sworn*
<[spoiler]> I'll just ask #weechat
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<[nesnak]> Hello
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