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littlemyu: hi
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Anybody know? % doas gem install bundler
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This is at Vultr.com.
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sounds like your sysadmin has sensibly blocked access to rubygems
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lupine: if so all of vultr.com blocked access to it
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i tried setting up another server as well
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lalalaaa: ipv4 or ipv6?
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rubygems works fine from my vultr in dallas.
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checking .uk and .jp
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works there, too.
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bougyman: amsterdam?
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would be much appreciated
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I don't have an instance in amsterdam anymore.
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too many network problems there.
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which this could be, too :)
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i'll keep that in mind thanks bougyman
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bougyman: are you malay by any chance?
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nope, in seattle
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Bogeyman (usually spelled boogeyman in the U.S.; also spelled bogieman or boogie man; see American and British English spelling differences), pronounced /b?gimæn/ or /bo?gimæn/,[1] is a common allusion to a mythical creature in many cultures used by adults to frighten children into good behavior.
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Headhunting is the practice of taking and preserving a person's head after killing the person. Headhunting was practised in historic times in parts of Oceania, South and Southeast Asia, West and Central Africa, and Mesoamerica, as well as among certain tribes of the Celts, the West Germanic tribes, and Scythians of ancient Europe.
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These are the same people!
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Ruby en español
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alguien Ruby en español
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mirvans: No está en español. No sé si hay una comunidad española. Me disculpo por mi mal español
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anyone have an idea if this is just a poor rvm(/rbenv) and bundler interaction?
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The easiest way to tell would be to try and isolate it in a VM of some sort, but I haven't seen that oen before :/
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I might be able to try an updated bundler outside of an rvm environment without too much trouble, but I was hoping someone else has a better idea than me (rubygems/bundler internals are always voodoo to me)
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im trying to do gem install
*anything* and i get error 127: The specified procedure could not be found. - C:/Ruby22/lib/ruby/2.2.0/i386-mingw32/openssl.so. any help would be great
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on windows. gem -v 2.4.5.1, ruby -v, ruby 2.2.5p319 (2016-04-26 revision 54774) [i386-mingw32]
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Hi, can any one explain me the difference between these two syntaxes FileUtils.mkdir_p, and ::FileUtils.mkdir_p ?
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The '::' prefix allows you to explicitly reference a top-level constant, instead of trying to look it up inside the current module or one of the modules that it is nested inside of.
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Which is useful if you're inside a module that has a different FileUtils constant, or a class that does not inherit from Object
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Mon_Ouie, sorry, I don't understand, in my code I require 'fileutils' which contains the class FileUtils, why do I need to prefix it with '::'
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You need to? Show the specific context in which that's necessary
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Mon_Ouie, oh I think I start to understand, if I define a File class in my code, but I need to use the Ruby File class, I need to prefix with ::
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if you just do 'class File; …; end' from the top-level, you're not defining your own file class, you are just re-opening the existing File class
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but if you do `module Foo; class File; end; …; end' and you want to access the built-in File class from Foo, you need to refer to it as ::Foo
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oh ok, is that the case, if I decide to do an include?
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To include what?
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include Foo for instance
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in my current script
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Yes, because Foo will appear in the inheritance chain before Object, where ::File is located
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Ok, thank you
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Mon_Ouie, sorry to bother you again, I defined a Foo module and a File class inside it and I defined the join method that prints the "Join the party" string, I included the Foo module, however when I call File.join, it's the original join method that gets called, any idea why?
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Can you show the code?
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ok, just a sec
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What's self in that code?
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Mon_Ouie, the File class, I wanted to define a class method
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So you're executing this code inside of the File class?
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Inside of :::File that is?
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I did include Foo and then File.join, and I expected the method join I defined would be called
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Because that would work ttps://gist.github.com/anonymous/0edaf9f35ae50cb9437318cce5a92fa9
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ok, I see, it works when we're inside a module or a class
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In OOP, does an object corresponds to something
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Anyone care to share some tips on how to speed up rspec? I am doing 650 or so tests and it's taking several hours.
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Ove_ >
With truncation
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I understand truncate is slow. but this slow?
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jazzonmym111nd >
are you sure it's not the code you're testing that is slow?
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Well, on some machines (lower specs than this one) it runs in 9 minutes.
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On other machines it takes an hour or half an hour.
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i have written over 2k rspec tests that run is under 2minutes, so id guess its your code that is slow.
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jazzonmym111nd: Most of these deal with the database.
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This is also rails3 and 2.0.0.
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toretore >
theres ur problem
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if it takes several hours on one machine and 9 minutes on another, it's not because rspec is slow
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toretore >
thus, "speeding up rspec" is a red herring
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toretore >
and the problem is something else
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Ove_ >
But the one I am running on now has higher specs, as opposed to the one running in 9 minutes which is untuned etc.
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toretore >
that only weakens your theory that rspec is slow
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Ove_ >
I didn't say it was slow.
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toretore >
"Anyone care to share some tips on how to speed up rspec"
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Still didn't say it was slow.
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truncate what?
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truncating in between tests.
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toretore >
it's slow on *some machines*, but not others
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Ove_ >
I'm not a dev. I'm just migrating jenkins between two boxes and I can't figure out why it's so much slower on a better box.
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toretore >
ok, so now we're getting closer
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toretore >
it's probably db access in general that's slow on some machines
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what's the db?
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[k- >
toretore please elaborate!
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ok, so try and run some queries on the db to compare them
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I'll have to figure out what queries the tests run.
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toretore >
you can start with generic queries to see if it's slow in general
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toretore >
then if they're the same you can use specific queries that you know are slow from the tests
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I am thinking rspec might be malconfigured also
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Ove_: pastebin.com loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting.
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toretore >
and then you have to factor in how the db is accessed in the code
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Ove_ >
transactional mode seems faster, much faster. But break 45 or so tests.
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I should probably tell the devs to fix it instead.
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the code is gonna be the problem, so if you can't change or improve the code itself, then yeah i'd hand it over to the devs.
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toretore >
if the code is the same on both machines, it's not the code that's the problem
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true but 9 minutes is still quite high
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toretore >
depends on what it's doing
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it's quite common for rails test suites to take several minutes because they do a lot of io
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at work we rails app with have 1.5k tests or something, and they run in 2 minutes on a crappy machine. anything longer than 5 minutes makes the tests annoying to run imho.
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I don't see any I/O or anything either.
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db is io
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Yeah, I mean, I see I/O, but the numbers are not very high.
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are you using capybara/headless browser tests
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Not to my knowledge
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then 9 minutes seems like a lot for 600 tests.
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It's in the GemFile, but doesnt show up in any tests.
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zacts >
jazzonmym111nd: cool nick
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and hellooo #ruby
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g'mornin'
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arup_r >
I will get several event types like, "plan.created", "plan.updated" etc. I am interested only the word before the first dot(.). so I am doing it like `'coupon.updated'[/(\w+).*/, 1].upcase`. It is working. Just want to check if the regex i wrote has any hidden bug. can u see it please? :)
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arup_r >
havenwood: morning! :)
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havenwood >
arup_r: anchor the regexp
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arup_r >
like [a-z]+
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havenwood >
arup_r: /\A
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arup_r >
I will add the anchor. otherwise it is fine right havenwood?
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toretore >
s[/\A\w+/]
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toretore >
maybe s[/\A\w+\./]
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mangoJerr >
Im having some trouble. I am making a twillio app that sends a message at a set time. Currently I have the messages all submitted in the database with the send time included. I am having a tough time figuring out how to get my app to notice when a shedualed time is Time.now .
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arup_r >
toretore: I don't need the `.`
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arup_r >
>> puts 'coupon.updated'[/\A\w+\./].upcase
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toretore >
mangoJerr: what do you mean notice?
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havenwood >
arup_r: resource_name, action = type.rpartition('.').values_at(0, 2).reject(&:empty?)
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arup_r >
havenwood: regex is not good in this case? :)
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havenwood >
arup_r: consider when there's only the resource name and no action, or when the resource name has more than one dot
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mangoJerr >
like continuously querry to check if time.now = the shedualed time
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arup_r >
hmm there can be more than 1 dot.
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arup_r >
but I want only the thing before that first dot.
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toretore >
?xy mangoJerr
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ruby[bot] >
mangoJerr: it seems like you are asking for a specific solution to a problem, instead of asking about your problem. This often leads to bad solutions and increases frustration for you and those trying to help you. More:
http://meta.stackexchange.com/a/66378
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havenwood >
arup_r: partition('.').first
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mangoJerr: describe the purpose of this functionality instead
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arup_r >
>> puts 'coupon.updated.whatever.goes.here'[/\A(\w+).*/, 1].upcase
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arup_r >
havenwood: ^ this works
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that `\A` was I missed.. so now i think regex is fine
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havenwood >
arup_r: The capture is unnecessary: 'coupon.updated.whatever.goes.here'[/\A\w+/]
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toretore >
arup_r: if stripe says they send "#{resource}.#{action}" then it's probably prudent to parse it as such before doing anything with it
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toretore >
"i want the characters before the dot" vs "i want the resource name from the stripe event"
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arup_r >
I will just print the topleven name in log
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yes I want the resource name,u r right
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toretore >
it doesn't make a functional difference right now, but your intention is clearer
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arup_r >
ok. thank you toretore and havenwood
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jphase >
hey, I'm new and quite intrigued/excited about these "dangerous methods" that can "be banged". I'd love to find a complete list of "bangable methods" but I'm honestly a bit apprehensive about what will come up lol. If anyone can point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it :)
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jphase: It'll take a while but require 'objspace'; ObjectSpace.each_object.flat_map { |obj| obj.methods.grep /!\z/ }.uniq
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jphase >
havenwood: you are a marvelous human... thank you :)
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havenwood >
jphase: That's a start ^, i guess you want to know what object has the method though. Sec
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jphase >
yeah, was kind of looking for a site where someone broke it down by prototype or whatnot, like Arrays have x, y, z methods that are bangable - Strings have a, b, c
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why not .map(&:class)
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my google-fu has failed me but perhaps I'm not using the right terminology
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bangable methods are also called destructive
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ahh okay, I saw them called "dangerous methods" as well, good to know about the extra term
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jphase: The Ruby convention is to only use a bang for a method that's more dangerous than a method by the same name. I've seen Rails folk use a bang variant without the non-bang version but that's a bit odd. Most often it means the bang version modifies the receiver.
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okay, I have a rough grasp on what you mean
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what is the best way of returning true in a method that as a last command assigns a value to a variable?
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nowhereFast: `true` before the `end`.
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nowhereFast >
x = 5 && true
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nowhereFast >
or on a new line
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Papierkorb >
on a new line
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it just looks a little strange to me.. true on its onw
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you could prepend `return`
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how so?
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return true
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Valoo: hi
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nowhereFast: An empty line followed by a last line of the method with just `true` is a nice way to be clear that if it gets to that point it returns: true
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nowhereFast: `5` is also truthy. If you're assigning to anything other than `nil` or `false` it'd already return truthy.
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nowhereFast >
havenwood: what I'm doing is some_hash[:a] = 'some_val'
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and it doesnt seem to be returning true
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No but it returns 'some_val'
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which should evaluate to true if there is a val?
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and if 'some_val'; puts 'this is true'; end will print 'this is true'
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methods which end with '=' won't return the last statement nor the value passed to return.
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so an explicit true is idiomatic for ruby?
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at least in this case..
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Anybody know of a routing library that could pair with CGI?
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toretore >
adam12: elaborate
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toretore: If you were going to use the cgi library, and wanted to route depending on PATH_INFO to classes/methods, or lambdas, what would you use?
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(if anything)
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why are you using the cgi library?
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what requirements do you have that makes you think you should be using cgi?
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Dropable into most shared hosting situations with Ruby installed, low traffic scenario.
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Tho it's my own servers so it doesn't really matter - but avoiding Passenger or a reverse proxy is a goal for this experiment.
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why even care about shared hosting if vps/dedi is as low as $5/year
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i thought shared hosting didn't exist any more
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Sure it does
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xpitr >
where else professional 15 year old php coders would put their work on? free shared hosting of course
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i don't understand why you'd inflict such pain on yourself voluntarily
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adam12 >
Anyways, my use case is a Ruby web app that doesn't run under Passenger or a reverse proxy.
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I don't see what the pain would be.
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anyway, your app shall be a rack compatible app. and then your question becomes "which rack routing library should i use?"
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then you can use cgi, puma, whatever
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I didn't realize rack was compatible with CGI.
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i'm using open-uri
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IsoLinCHiP >
Hi, is there an builtin/elegant way to search for a value in a multi dimensional array. Sort of the oposite to Array#dig ?
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we wanna write a birthday song about how birthdays are celebrated in the different countries. If there is something special that is not mentioned on wikipedia, let me know :)
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IsoLinCHiP: Can't think of something "more elegant" than a recursive #each/#respond_to?/#find
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IsoLinCHiP >
Papierkorb: Hmm, ok, too bad, I felt like I was missing something basic. Btw, why respond_to?
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IsoLinCHiP: I wouldn't care much what I'm iterating over, though recursing in #find may suffice without #each
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Papierkorb >
But it depends on what you actually need
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IsoLinCHiP >
searching a 13x5 2d array, so I can generate the neighbouring values
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IsoLinCHiP: Probably to check if it responds to :each and :find so you know you can iterate through it.
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my particular usecase is a fixed size constant 2d array, as such I think I can skip the checks
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yes you should in that case
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Meh, I guess Ill just project it to a 1d array and use find and do some arithmetic
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find_index that is
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i have a date conandrum. i need to grab next months date for the same week (0-4), and same week day (0-6)
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so 2nd week, Saturday, for example
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should i venture down chronic gem road?
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gem uninstall --all
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im just starting over with bundle and a Gemfile for my projects.
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how can i check if all gems are remove with the above command?
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