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ruby-lang198 >
||= will only set the value if it is nil or false. is this recommended when declaring a variable for the first time in general in ruby?
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(also, am i using that operator correctly)
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ruby-lang198 >
finally
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if i'm checking for truthiness
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can i use weight &&= weight < 60
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to check for nil AND test the weight?
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the &&= operator isn't easy to google lol
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ruby-lang198: If you know you're declaring it for the first time use just `=` instead.
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ruby-lang198: &&= as you showed would set `weight` to `true` or `false` depending on whether `weight < 60`, which you'd probably not want to do
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probably want some ternary action there
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This has got to be some kind of FAQ, but I can't seem to find the right search terms: I installed a gem (terminal-size) as root, and I can use it as root, but I can't use it as non-root. Is that normal?
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Surely I have done something wrong.
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/usr/lib/ruby/2.1.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb:135:in `require': cannot load such file -- terminal-size (LoadError) from [snip] `rescue in require' from [snip] `require' from [my code]
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Whereas, if I run the same script as root, it reports (correctly) that my terminal is 132 x 51.
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All my experience with CPAN.pm is for naught here.
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jonadab: require 'io/console'; STDOUT.winsize
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jonadab: io/console is in the stdlib
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jonadab: As far as the root user, how'd you install Ruby? Do you have only one Ruby installed?
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I installed ruby using apt-get
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which ruby says /usr/bin/ruby regardless of whether I'm root or not.
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that sounds right but I missed everything before this. What's the issue?
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io/console seems to work, though.
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NetSage: I installed a gem as root, can't require it as non-root.
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This is on Devuan jessie.
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/usr/lib/ruby/2.1.0/rubygems/core_ext/kernel_require.rb:135:in `require': cannot load such file -- terminal-size (LoadError) from [snip] `rescue in require' from [snip] `require' from [my code]
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io/console will meet the immediate need for finding terminal size, but in the long term I am definitely going to need to be able to install modules in a way that results in being able to use them while not running as root.
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NetSage >
just chmod the gem permissions.
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Oh? Where're they stored?
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jonadab >
I suppose I can find / | grep terminal-size
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jonadab >
Ah, /var/lib/gems/2.1.0
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NetSage >
use the command gem environment
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jonadab >
Ah, quite.
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jonadab >
INSTALLATION_DIRECTORY
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Yep, chmod -R ugo+r works.
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You'd
_think_ that would be automatic, but whatever.
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NetSage >
I agree it's odd but was the easiest solution I could think of :D
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jonadab >
Thanks, both of you.
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Now I can get on with the business of learning to actually use this language.
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It's been on my to-learn list for like ten years, so.
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Maybe I'd have gotten to it sooner if I hadn't got sidetracked learning C (which is a horrible language to work in, especially pre-ANSI K&R C, but I was so interested in that codebase...)
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what do people type in here?
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NetSage >
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Hi. I've been trying to fix up a whole lot of rubocop violations in a puppet module. I started with 532 and I'm now down to just 1.
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I'm a ruby novice though, and don't really understand the fix I need to make.
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afisher: just replace "reduce" with "each_with_object". If you believe rubocop, anyway
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wonder what hte justification for that cop is
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Maybe it complains about is because of the explicit return? each_with_object would be a little cleaner I'd say
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afisher: Could you link your gist again?
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and thanks for taking a look
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elomatreb: great! thanks
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btw, If you disagree/don't like a rubocop rule you're free to turn them off, especially more opinionated ones like this
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sure. i don't like turning them off because I don't understand them though.
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But most importantly, I'm trying to make sure I'm not breaking anything!
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The project has only very recently been adopted by the voxpupuli team. I'm trying to bring it in line with all the other voxpupuli puppet modules.
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Consistency is important, agreed. But the rules enforced by rubocop weren't dictated by some divine entity
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afisher: For that first case (using the return of a regex match) there is a better alternative at least
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RegExp#match can be passed a block that is called with and only if there are matches
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But for the others you're probably right
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elomatreb: Thanks.
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afisher >
As in ...
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%r{INSTALLED PACKAGES, CHANNEL (.*):}i.match(set) { |m| channel = m[1].downcase }
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Pretty much, yeah
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afisher: You sure m[1] is correct though? I only see one matching group in the regex?
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Scratch that, misremembered what MatchData#[] does
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elomatreb: So it is ok? Would you mind if I ping you on the github PR I'm about to create?
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m[1] will return the content of that matching group, yeah
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afisher: I wouldn't mind taking a look, but I'm no Ruby pro either
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You might claim to not be a pro, but it's all relative! ;)
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afisher: Taking a look now!
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I mean will the factor.core still echo the assignment to my variable 'test_join'
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jeffreylevesque: Having a look now
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hi! I'm trying to write some tests using rspec, and I'd like to know if there's a way to launch a debugger when a test fails, so I can introspect what went wrong?
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(it's for a patch I'm writing for gitlab)
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flying >
hi ruby I'm coming from a background in java to learn ruby but I'm having some trouble to understand attr_accessor
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flying >
can you help me?
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flying: The key thing to understand is that things like the attr_* functions are just functions that get executed, not a language keyword or something like that
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attr_accesor defines two methods: One to read the corresponding variable, and another one to set it
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ok I'm trying to do some test :)
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flying: pastebin.com loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting.
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flying: Two things:
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1. If you want to create a string, you need to wrap it in quotes. Like so: "mark".
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yes I tried using the quotes... same error
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flying >
I still have that error
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elomatreb >
Can you show me your version with quotes?
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flying >
person.name="mark"
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flying >
all the rest is the same
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This will still error, but now you get a different error, right?
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I have undefined methos 'name='
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This is because you don't have the accessor defined for the name variable
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Add `attr_accessor :name` to your class
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but name is a def and not a variable...isn't?
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Once you assign something using person.name = "something", your class will have a instance variable called `@name`
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(The @ denotes that it's an instance variable)
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flying >
it still doesn't work
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We're probably misunderstanding each other, let me write up a small example
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thanks for the help but you say: p.name = "Mark" # Use the method `name=` to assign something
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flying >
but name is a variable and not a method
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flying >
am I wrong?
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This is one of the tricky parts of Ruby
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really I can't understand... name is a method?
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It's a method, with the name `name=`, but the language allows you to write the method with spaces before and after the `=`
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One moment please
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In Ruby, everything you can call on an object (from the outside) is a method, there are no properties or things like that
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so in ruby everything is a method?
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flying >
doesn't exist varaibles?
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flying >
a = 10 a is a method?
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In your example, a is a variable
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in ruby everything is an object
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some_instance.a = 10 would be calling the method `a=`
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flying >
ok and when a is a method?? can you change a = 10 to get a as method please?
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You can do that, but it's probably not what you want
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If you say "a = 10", you create a local variable called a, with a value of 10 (which is a specific instance of the class Integer)
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elomatreb >
If you're getting started, codecademy.com has a decent Ruby course
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flying >
I was studying on pluralsight
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flying >
I don't know if it more or less better than codecademy.com but I was confusing about these things with ruby... method, variables and attr_accessor :)
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It can be really confusing if you're coming from other languages, yeah
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I have experience with bash
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flying >
I'm very confused
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But once you understand it, you realize how nice and powerful Rubys ways are
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flying >
I found some videos on youtube but they made me much more confused :)
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flying >
your help has been very useful :)
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so attr_accessor hasn't any default value? I have to set that object each time I create a new class?
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have any book about the Automatic Work ?
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flying: No, attr_accessor by itself does not set any default value (technically, it doesn't even create the variable until you assign it)
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You usually set things like defaults in the initialize method of your class, the Ruby equivalent of a Java constructor
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has the initialize method the same name of the class like in java?
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person = class test .......
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flying >
is that correct in ruby? so I can assign to a variable "person" the result of a class?
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flying: What are you trying to do? Creating a anonymous class?
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flying >
just testing locally ... I'm learning ruby :)
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flying >
reading doc.. watching some videos on pluralsight, youtube :)
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Papierkorb >
flying: Fire up `pry` and just type "class Foo; end" and see what it returns (See the "=> .." line below)
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like irb, but actually good. just install it through "gem install pry"
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let me check if I can install with brew
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gem install.
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it's a ruby tool.
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flying >
ok installed :)
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Hi, I am trying to install a "ruby gem" and it fails while building the native extension. How can I modify the Makefile so that it doesn't get replaced? Is there a preserve option or something?
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result = class Foo; answer = 5*5; end
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simple question... why I should use a class to run code if I can do the same without it?
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flying: Because you're not doing OOP otherwise.
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yes but in this case I don't create any object.. isn't?
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flying: For small-ish scripts, people don't care. Applications are a different matter.
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flying >
result in this case "I think" is a variable.. so I'm assigning to a variable the value of a class
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flying: You do. Everything is an object in ruby, including the topmost one where you end up first, commonly called "main"
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flying: Look at the line below in pry. What does it say?
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[2] pry(main)> class Foo; end
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flying: What is `nil`?
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it meqns null
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well, yes, but in the sense of "no object"
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That's what the class operator returned
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but if I want to use a class should I create a new object ?
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But you can access the class by its name, in this case, "Foo".
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like in Java I mean
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Yes, of course
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You instantiate classes to get an brand-new instance (object) of that class
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ah ok ok so result is the object instantiated from the class Foo
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of `class` you mean? Well, what did it return again?
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result = class Foo; answer = 5*5; end
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I mean in this case
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result is the object instantiated from the class Foo
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am I right?
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That code will run, but doesn't make much sense
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Not at all
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You're opening/creating the class Foo, run "answer = 5*5" in its context, and end it
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flying >
I got 25 as result
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Yes due to internal reasons.
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Still, it's wrong.
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ok thanks :)
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Anyone know how I can use a module method from irb?
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Mrgoose2: The same way you use any other method... call it on an object that it's defined on
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http://pastebin.com/sHjur4hg , i have a generators.rb file setup like this.. i run 'irb' and then i do require './generators.rb' and it returns true
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Mrgoose2: pastebin.com loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting.
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then i try to call Common::PKI::Generators::generate_serial
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and i get an error
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Yeah.. that's not how you use a method defined inside a module
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NoMethodError: undefined method `generate_serial' for Common::PKI::Generators:Module
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well that would explain it
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How would i go about using a method defined inside a module? From what ive been able to gather online it was always just ModuleName.methodname
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You need to include the module somewhere, or define the method as a class/module function ("self.")
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If you've got an example of something implying ModuleName.methodname, I can maybe help clarify what it meant
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the example i saw uses 'def self.methodname'
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as you described
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assuming I dont use 'self.' you mentioned 'you need to include the module somewhere' . Would that be doing a 'require' ?
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No, that would be doing an 'include'
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ruby-pcap must be the worst documented gem. is there anything else out there?
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matthewd: thank you very much
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require './generators.rb' , include Common::PKI::Generators , Common::PKI::Generators::generate_serial
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Mrgoose2 >
no good?
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matthewd >
That's not doing what you think it is
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require './generators.rb'; include Common::PKI::Generators; generate_serial
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matthewd >
Your version happens to work because when you include something at the top level (you generally never want to do that in a real program, though it's fine for irb experimentation) it becomes available on every object... including the Generators module
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ah ok. Do you happen to have any recommended books/material for learning ruby? I'm familiar with other languages but just getting started with Ruby and have mostly just been playing around trying to find my way around
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hey guys! I'm fairly new to ruby, and just setup nginx/passenger/sinatra/slim. Currently I'm trying to write a little webapp in Sinatra that works fine except for one part. In this gist:
https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9f166e81120c4e07e1d6c10151f65814 if the passed browser does not exist in the list of browsers, it should return "BROWSER is not a
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recognized browser". It appears to be completely skipping that check (as you can see from the following curl calls). any ideas?
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dtscode, you might want a return before the string in that check
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ropeney: why do the others not need a string?
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ropeney: why do the others not need a return?
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because they are the last resolved expression of the method
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ropeney >
in your check it makes a string, then ditches it continuing
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dtscode >
I didn't peg ruby as the kind of language to work that way
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dtscode >
thats really cool
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dtscode >
reminds me of haskell
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so fixed it?
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dtscode >
trying it right now
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Mrgoose2: No up to date suggestions, sorry. Pickaxe & the poignant guide worked well for me, but I don't know what the current standard recommendations are.
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yep that worked. thanks ropeney!
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hi all. on debian wheezy, i installed rvm rails but see thats security risk to install it as root. "rvm explode" is enough to revert it ?
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kingkong-: rvm implode
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exploding rvm would leave a mess
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Following directions to install Rails (I’m new to this), and I had Xcode installed from before (not sure I ever used it). Typed “gcc” and ended up accepting terms of use, but it ends with “Clang: error: no input files” ? Any suggestions? I have Xcode in my apps folder (Mac)
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that error means clang wasn't given any files to process
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a7d7p: Try: gcc --version
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havenwood: I get… Configured with: --prefix=/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/usr --with-gxx-include-dir=/Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Platforms/MacOSX.platform/Developer/SDKs/MacOSX10.12.sdk/usr/include/c++/4.2.1
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Apple LLVM version 8.0.0 (clang-800.0.38)
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Target: x86_64-apple-darwin15.6.0
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Thread model: posix
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InstalledDir: /Applications/Xcode.app/Contents/Developer/Toolchains/XcodeDefault.xctoolchain/usr/bin
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a7d7p: Looks good!
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havewood… I guess that means I’m good to go? thanks
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is there a function I can call in ruby that generates a unique file in a certain directory (unique in the sense of its name)
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dtscode: Tempfile
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tabakhase__: Tempfile.new 'example', '/your/dir'
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havenwood thanks you. :) i was meaning rvm implode. i dont know why i wrote explode :d
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<
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which is the fastest way to write a loop of 1 to 10 ?
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can i do like: (1..10).each do
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_sfiguser: Fastest?
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matthewd, yes i mean shorter to write
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