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<_rubik>
I have a strange question.. But what are some of the less conventional control flow statements.. purley for study and not practice of course.
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<SeepingN>
whence and henceforth are pretty uncommon
<SeepingN>
;)
<_rubik>
zzz.... Maybe a bit MORE used than that
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<SeepingN>
I like "unless"
<matthewd>
_rubik: There aren't that many control flow statements/methods in total
<SeepingN>
for confusion purposes
<_rubik>
Yeah, I've looked at unless
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<SeepingN>
Do all this long crazy involved stuff. read carefully there's a lot going on. ....unless false.
<matthewd>
_rubik: throw/catch and rescue-else come to mind
<_rubik>
matthewd: OOO havn't done those, thanks!
<SeepingN>
rescue is necessary
<SeepingN>
must read about that and how NOT to do it (don't rescue "everything")
<SeepingN>
tis a good time to learn how to grab ctrl-C too, if you're writing interactive scripts
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<matthewd>
^^ what happens if you don't grab Ctrl-C, I guess :)
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<_rubik>
"Finding bugs by adding asserts everywhere"
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<_rubik>
hmm. I have never really thought about the catching Ctrl+C.. interesting
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<matthewd>
It more often comes up when you've done it accidentally, by over-rescuing. Rare that you should choose to do so.
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<Guest95>
Alright, I give up, I've come here for help. I'm trying to connect to MongoDB from Ruby. The catch is, I need to SSH to a server first to do so. I've played around with the "net-ssh" package, but I'm starting to think this is the wrong approach, as Mongo isn't running on that box. I just use that box as a bastion, and connect normally to the Mongo instance on another box.
<Guest95>
How do I solve this? It's as if I need SSH to be my makeshift VPN, and connect to that.
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<freeze>
i could solve this without ruby, if that's interesting to you lol
<freeze>
my not work for you use case, depending
<freeze>
might*
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<ruby-lang062>
suck
<freeze>
Guest95: run ssh -L 9000:localhost:27017 user@server and then you can connect to localhost:9000 as the mongodb in your code.
<freeze>
not optimal, certainly are many better alternatives
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<ruby-lang062>
rails
<freeze>
ruby-lang062: what
<ruby-lang062>
sorry
<ruby-lang062>
i was just testing
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<freeze>
lol np
<Guest95>
I'll try that. Is the SSH command supposed to quit? I thought it would be hanging, like telnet.
<Guest95>
That SSH command just logs me into the server.
<Guest95>
Mongo isn't running on that server. I have to SSH from that server that I log into. It's just a bastion, nothing is running on it.
<freeze>
oh sorry, you can still tunnel between multiple servers
<freeze>
ssh -t server1 ssh server2
<freeze>
but not exactly sure how to combine all of that to get you a mongodb tunnel on server2 at the moment. i have similar use-case configurations on a computer i currently don't have access to which doesn't help
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<Guest95>
Hmm, how do I explain this. I SSH to server A, and then I mongo to server B (I don't SSH to server B), but I guess that's just port differences...
<freeze>
oh
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<freeze>
well you could open a port to mongodb on server A via a tunnel, lol
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<freeze>
but i'm guessing that wouldn't be useful
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<Guest95>
Yeah, trying to do it all from my local machine...
<Guest95>
Darn IP restrictions.
<freeze>
you can socks proxy over ssh using server a
<freeze>
and connect as normal
<freeze>
er
<freeze>
disregard i'm also an idiot
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<freeze>
oh maybe not. for some reason thought maybe you couldn't do mongodb over socks, but you should be able to
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<Guest95>
Can you do all this with SSH?
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<freeze>
yes you can create a socks5 proxy on localhost using ssh
<freeze>
still googling to see if you can use that for mongodb
<Guest95>
Yeah, I don't. And I have been in this situation before, and just give up each time. :|
<freeze>
matthewd: that's what i said
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<freeze>
oh maybe not
<hyaaaaaaaaaaaa>
why do people say activerecord is a bad idea
<matthewd>
hyaaaaaaaaaaaa: It's an architectural pattern; some people prefer other patterns. And some people prefer other specific libraries, regardless of the pattern.
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<matthewd>
hyaaaaaaaaaaaa: So, pretty much the same reasons some people say most other things are a bad idea
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<dminuoso_>
-c
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<dminuoso_>
Torrone: That is strange. Can you show us how you are installing a gem? Are you using sudo?
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<dminuoso_>
Torrone: also include the full output please, from the beginning.
<dminuoso_>
I reckon that this is not the first error.
<Torrone>
dminuoso_, I'm letting rubymine install it, it's weird because it was installed up until yesterday, then the whole ide crashed and I had to terminate it. Once rebooted it kept asking to install debugger, failing at that from the beginning
<Torrone>
dminuoso_, where do I find the rest of the output?
<Torrone>
dminuoso_, /tmp/foo.c:1:20: fatal error: string.h: No such file or directory
<dminuoso_>
Torrone: then your compiler is incorrectly installed.
<dminuoso_>
Torrone: I'd say get rid of it, 4.9 is super old anyway.
<Torrone>
dminuoso_, what do I install instead
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<dminuoso_>
Torrone: I just use the xcode installed compiler for my ruby stuff, so first uninstall the gcc package from unbrew, then use "xcode-select --install"
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<dminuoso_>
This might take a bit, but it will install a clean and working environment.
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<dminuoso_>
(This will provide llvm, a linker and make - all things you need for Ruby anyway)
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<Torrone>
dminuoso_, I've already ran 'xcode-select --install' earlier
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<Edward_>
Does anyone know why preload_app might cause a rails action to hang?
<Edward_>
Very strange behaviour - I'm guessing one of the gems isn't loaded properly?
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<danand>
hi Does anyone know where I can find documentation for the &:read parameter you can pass to File.open? e.g. contents = File.open('myfile.txt', &:read)
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<workmad3>
danand: that's just a shorthand for a block parameter... so it's the same as doing `File.open('myfile.txt') { |f| f.read }`
<workmad3>
(and also equivalent to doing `File.read('myfile.txt')` )
<dminuoso_>
That is the documentation. :-)
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<workmad3>
dminuoso_: heh :)
<dminuoso_>
o7 workmad3
<danand>
hmmph!
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<workmad3>
hmm... documentation bug in that page... the example for `to_s` shows `:fred.id2name` rather than `:fred.to_s`
<danand>
That's rather confusing to a noob
<dminuoso_>
workmad3: it's an alias
<danand>
so it's just syntastic sugar for the full block stuff
<workmad3>
dminuoso_: I know... but normally that's listed as "This is an alias of X" rather than not mentioning the alias and showing a code sample of a different method
<workmad3>
dminuoso_: i.e. it's a documentation bug because the documentation isn't clear there :P
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<dminuoso_>
workmad3: I'm hardened. I don't trust the Ruby documentation anymore, use the source or go home I say.
<workmad3>
:)
<dminuoso_>
C code can't lie. :-P
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<rclsilver>
hello, i've an application which requires two versions of a gem : one version for code checking (with lint) and one version for generating documention
<rclsilver>
any way to have 2 versions of my bundle ?
<dminuoso_>
rclsilver: No.
<dminuoso_>
ALthough.
<danand>
workmad3: dminuoso_ `derpy - Thank you! Off to study more!!
<dminuoso_>
rclsilver: You can simply define different groups.
<workmad3>
different groups don't let you have multiple versions of the same gem
<dminuoso_>
rclsilver: That way your :docgen group could define a different gem than your :test or :development group
<dminuoso_>
workmad3: mmm ?
<rclsilver>
dminuoso_: i'll explain
<dminuoso_>
That blows.
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<rclsilver>
i'm writting a puppet module. my documentation is written in puppet code. we are using a product (satellite from redhat) which provides puppet 3.8.6. puppet-strings (the gem which generates the documentation) has an issue with puppet 3.8.6 and needs puppet 4.2.0 and later. in my rake file, i've a task which cehcks the puppet code (and then we need the same version that we are using [3.8.6]) and we have a task which needs puppet 4.2.0+ f
<rclsilver>
in my case, what is the better way ?
<rclsilver>
currently i've done this: PUPPET_VERSION=4.2.0 via_proxy bundle install --path vendor/bundle-4.2.0 executed that for creating a bundle with puppet 4.2.0 and the same by replacing 4.2.0 by 3.8.6
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<rclsilver>
why when i execute bundle exec rake test my Rakefile isn't used?
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<GambitK>
Hello, I was trying yesterday to merge a child hash into its parent, example: hash1 => { 1 => "one", 2 => "two", hash2 => { 3 => "three", 4 => "four"}}
<GambitK>
I tried with merge hash1.merge(hash1[hash2]) but it leaves hash2 and I want it removed, the result should be hash1 => { 1 => "one", 2 => "two", 3 => "three", 4 => "four"}
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<ljarvis>
GambitK: hash.merge(hash.delete(hash2))
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<GambitK>
ljarvis: you mean hash1.merge(hash1.delete(hash1[hash2]))
<ljarvis>
no
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<acovrig>
I’m trying to work w/data from a MySQL utf8_unicode_ci column; I’m getting “incomplete multibyte character”, so I’m trying to use Iconv and get Iconv::IllegalSequence; the data is “Mu\xF1oz”, F1 seems to be ñ, how can I accept this?
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<apeiros>
acovrig: that's not valid unicode then
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<apeiros>
so after you've fixed this issue, you should ensure that you don't continue storing data in the wrong encoding in your db
<apeiros>
right now: first step is to figure out which encoding has \xF1 encoding an ñ
<apeiros>
then instruct ruby that your string is encoded in that encoding (String#force_encoding), and let it reencode in utf-8 (#encode)
<apeiros>
you're probably using one of the western latin encodings
<ruby[bot]>
apeiros: I'm terribly sorry, I could not evaluate your code because of an error: Curl::Err::ConnectionFailedError:Couldn't connect to server
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<acovrig>
apeiros: the data is from a system I have no control over, so IDK exactly what encoding they’re using, a mysqldump shows the charset of utf8 and collation of utf8_unicode_ci
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<dminuoso->
acovrig, if you are in doubt, chardet can provide you with some first guesses
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<apeiros>
acovrig: then hit them with a bat. hard.
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<apeiros>
they should not set the db's encoding to something the data isn't encoded in. that's just stupid and means lots of things won't work properly.
<apeiros>
it won't stop them from storing invalid data, however.
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<apeiros>
dminuoso-: IME chardet and co are pretty useless.
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<dminuoso->
apeiros, Ive had cases where I had to revert to such tools.
<dminuoso->
CP850 is just not common enough to immediately recognize it for example.
<apeiros>
sure
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<acovrig>
apeiros: yea… I’m attempting to take the data from a rails 2.0.2 system and use it w/a new rails system
<apeiros>
if I had absolutely no idea what it could be, I'd probably use that to shorten the time
<apeiros>
acovrig: that's unrelated to using the wrong encoding
<dminuoso->
apeiros, the data I had to work with mostly just required conversion between the various utf encodings and iso-8859-1
<dminuoso->
And now CP850 too..
<acovrig>
apeiros: yea, but this system is quite old, the DB has no foreign keys either… so yeaaaa :/
<dminuoso->
And by ISO-8859-1 I mean Windows-1252 of course.
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<apeiros>
acovrig: still unrelated. whoever set the db/table up and/or filled it with data fucked up.
<acovrig>
I think it’s the same person that thought 200 tables w/no foreign keys would be a good idea
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<apeiros>
dminuoso: iirc win1252 ⊃ iso-8859-15
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<apeiros>
and iirc you'll usually want -15 not -1 as iirc -1 does not have € :)
<apeiros>
I might misremember, though. it's from the top of my head.
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<apeiros>
acovrig: that's sadly a common feeling in many webshops (rails, php, python… language and framework barely matter - though rails added automatic FK constraints now, which hopefully helps a bit)
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<dminuoso>
You can also apply a drill to your harddrive / ssd.
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<dminuoso>
I find that to be a safe operation, never harmed myself doing it.
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<gasull>
matthewd: thanks
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<gasull>
I run gem uninstall nokogiri but I still see it in /var/lib/gems/2.3.0/gems
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<matthewd>
Either you had multiple versions installed, or your current gem command is pointing elsewhere
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<matthewd>
`gem list --local` and `gem env`
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<smlocal>
hi
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<acovrig>
In activerecord, I could do find_or_create_by, how (if) do I do that with sequel, currenlty I’m doing insert_ignore.insert, but if the record already exists, then it returns nil
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<smlocal>
hi
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<gasull>
Even after aptitude purge ruby I still have packages in /var/lib/gems/
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<chrisseaton>
gasull: I just delete that whole directory periodically - not sure if it causes harm or not but I'm still here
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<havenwood>
gasull: They used to package Ruby and RubyGems separately. Maybe try an: aptitude purge rubygems
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<gasull>
unable to securely remove '/usr/bin/ruby2.3': Device or resource busy
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<arthurl>
has anyone ever seen an issue where you're unable to install a gem? i'm trying to uninstall a rake gem and am seeing 'ERROR: While executing gem ... (Gem::InstallError)'
<arthurl>
when i attempt to do so
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<havenwood>
arthurl: Can you post a Gist of the result of?: gem install rake --verbose
<havenwood>
arthurl: What version or Ruby (ruby -v) and RubyGems (gem -v)?
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<havenwood>
arthurl: rake requires Ruby version >= 1.9.3.
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<arthurl>
havenwood are you sure? another production box of ours which i'm basically replicating (moving to aws) is on ruby 1.8.7 and has rake 0.8.7 installed
<arthurl>
and it doesn't even have rvm installed
<havenwood>
arthurl: Older versions of Rake do work with Ruby 1.8, but the latest version of Rake doesn't.
<arthurl>
right- well first and foremost i can't seem to uninstall the 10.1.1 version of rake i have on there now
<arthurl>
after which i need to install rake 0.8.7
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<havenwood>
arthurl: Ruby 1.8, 1.9 and 2.0 are past end-of-life and Ruby 2.1 is in maintenance mode. If you can, switch to Ruby 2.2 or 2.3.
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<arthurl>
havenwood unfortunately this is a legacy app that i'm required to migrate to aws
<havenwood>
arthurl: See `gem help install` for how to install an older version of the gem.
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<arthurl>
havenwood before i install i need to uninstall...
<arthurl>
it's blowing up when i attempt to uninstall rake
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<arthurl>
"undefined method `rubygems' for Bundler:Module (NoMethodError)"
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<petervo>
hi, everyone, is possible to do a dup2 in ruby where i get to pick the target fd number?
<petervo>
i would do something like s.reopen(IO.for_fd(x))
<petervo>
but that fails if x is not already open
<petervo>
which is sort of the point of doing the dup2 in the first place
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<matthewd>
petervo: I don't think so.. though I'm also not sure why you'd want to
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<petervo>
matthewd, my use case is a fork exec, the command i'm execing expects to receive data on a specific fd
<matthewd>
petervo: You can remap fds in spawn if it's for a child process... for the ruby process itself to care about the (non 0,1,2) fd, it seems you'd have to be doing something pretty unusual
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<matthewd>
Ah, then yeah, you just want the fd mapping in spawn
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<eam>
I'm surprised dup2 is missing from IO
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<eam>
petervo: the good news is it's relatively simple to add it
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<petervo>
eam, how would i do that in my program?
<petervo>
or are you talking about submitting a patch to ruby?
<al2o3-cr>
You could use Kernel.syscall(33|63, fd, fd) # 33 64bit - 63 32bit (use at your own risk :P)
<jaequery>
but would like to understand what potential problems i will have?
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<matthewd>
petervo: Yeah, the exec documentation is probably a bit light on the "go read Process::spawn" -- it's there, but could definitely be louder
<jaequery>
in simple terms, when is fork good and when is it bad?
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<eam>
I'd go through ffi rather than syscall, as it gives you proper OS abstraction (ffi will even work on jruby)
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<eam>
no need to hardcode syscall numbers and so on
<al2o3-cr>
in that case use fiddle from the stdlib
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<matthewd>
And spawn/exec is of course ultimately just doing a dup2... it's just not exposed directly because it's much more low-level than you should need *in-process*; semantically much safer to leave it at the exec boundary where it's useful.
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<jaequery>
sorry but, are you guys talking to me?
<jaequery>
lol
<petervo>
matthewd++, eam++, al2o3-cr++
<eam>
isn't fiddle some weird thing?
<petervo>
thanks for the help
<matthewd>
eam: Isn't ffi? ;)
<al2o3-cr>
:P
<eam>
I got the impression ffi was more mature, wider platform support, etc
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<eam>
does fiddle work with jruby?
<eam>
anyway sure use that :D
<al2o3-cr>
that i'm not sure
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<matthewd>
If you're setting up a fork/exec, I don't think jruby's going to be a big worry ;)
<eam>
monkeypatching IO is a bad idea btw
<eam>
don't literally do what I did in my gist :D
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<matthewd>
jaequery: fork is good when it's what you need
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<matthewd>
jaequery: Are you asking for general knowledge, or trying to evaluate a solution to a particular problem?
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<jaequery>
both
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<matthewd>
jaequery: If you describe your problem, we can probably help talk through whether forking is the right choice
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<matthewd>
jaequery: I'm not sure I'm clever enough to formulate an overarching theme of when it's a good/bad thing, though :/
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<jaequery>
basically whenever a user is created, i'm registering the user with customerio, as well as recurly and the round trip takes about 2 seconds. so i'm wrapping it around fork to make the site load quicker while those services run in the background
<jaequery>
thats all
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<matthewd>
Okay, yeah, don't do that.
<matthewd>
You want threads, not processes.
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<jaequery>
why?
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<jaequery>
its working fine for me but why is that?
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<matthewd>
Fork is very heavyweight; it makes a copy of the whole process
<matthewd>
This case is exactly the sort of thing threads are for
<jaequery>
hm, i loved how easy it is to use fork, like fork do .......... end
<jaequery>
do threads have anything similar?
<matthewd>
Thread.new do .... end
<jaequery>
cool, do i have to also, exit, before the end ?
<matthewd>
No
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<jaequery>
cool, any limitations to Thread?
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<matthewd>
They're in the same process, so any objects both your original and new thread can see, can get manipulated by the other one
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<matthewd>
That's handy if you want to communicate between them, but problematic if you're not expecting it
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<matthewd>
If you're just doing a request to elsewhere and then possibly updating a DB entry or something, then you're unlikely to ever be touching any shared state
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<jaequery>
ah thanks matt!
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