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<jerikl> Thanks al2o3-cr! Worth nothing that I needed `save_with: Nokogiri::XML::Node::SaveOptions::FORMAT + Nokogiri::XML::Node::SaveOptions::NO_EMPTY_TAGS` to get the formatting right.
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<pontiki> havenwood: you about? i have a windows user with that SSL problem and rubygems
<pontiki> you were helping someone yesterday I think?
<havenwood> pontiki: hey
<pontiki> hi! o/
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<pontiki> she's on version 2.4.5.1 of rubygems, but the gist only lists up to 2.2.3
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<pontiki> are we stuck with the manual option?
<havenwood> sec, looking
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<havenwood> pontiki: gem install --local C:\PATH_TO_DOWNLODED_FILE\rubygems-update-2.6.7.gem
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<pontiki> thanks, giving it a go
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<pontiki> working...
<pontiki> Q from the left: "Why do they call it 'ri'?"
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<pontiki> SUCCESS!
<pontiki> thanks, havenwood
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<havenwood> pontiki: you're welcome!
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<Marti____> How can I initialize Object.new('something') and return a HTTParty object? I try calling inside initializer but It returns the #<Object:0x007fb26d10f4b0 @object={...httparty result...} but not the HTTParyt object itself
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<havenwood> Marti____: HTTParty is a module. You can include it like `include HTTParty` in another module or class. What are you trying to do?
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<havenwood> Marti____: If there isn't a reason for indirection just use it directly.
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<Marti____> heavenwood Just explained it here better: https://gist.github.com/pelcasandra/d8efb56ca960435c57bad9e9aaca71ef
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<meshsmith> can I build an HTML/CSS/JS website on top of Vanilla Ruby without a framework like PHP or does it need some fancy nonsense?
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<xall> meshsmith: ?
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<xall> of course if you implement everything. what are you really asking
<meshsmith> I know I can build a website with Ruby, but do I need to use a framework like Rails to do it or can I just use raw Ruby code?
<xall> can you build a universe with atoms?
<xall> there are lighter alternatives to rails
<xall> sinatra for example
<xall> "need" is relative
<meshsmith> I dont wan to -alternatives- anything, I know the options, I want to see if I can do it just to do it. Skill learning.
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<xall> well how do you think rails was made?
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<xall> divine intervention?
<meshsmith> Thats not really fair, you could ask that SASS and people would straight up assume just CSS which would be incorrect.
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<meshsmith> but i get the point. thanks i guess... ... ...
<havenwood> meshsmith: Checkout Rack: https://rack.github.io/
<havenwood> meshsmith: There are a ton of Rack adapters, including Rails.
<geo_> meshsmith: Rails is written in Ruby. You can write your own from scratch if you'd like.
<Nilium> Cynical answer for how Rails was made: rails was made when a lot of people worked together to make a lot of mistakes all in the interest of creating the largest mistake. Somewhere along the way, other people wanted to make mistakes too, so they used rails to help make their mistakes bigger mistakes.
<havenwood> meshsmith: As already mentioned, Sinatra is popular or Roda is very nice: https://github.com/jeremyevans/roda
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<havenwood> meshsmith: Here are some Hello Worlds in various Rack adapters: https://github.com/luislavena/bench-micro/tree/master/apps
<Nilium> But realistically, you can do a lot of stuff with Ruby. Writing your own HTTP server might be a fun exercise, or maybe just writing a thing that serves files using someone else's HTTP server.
<Nilium> Someone else's as in someone else's code, not hijacking someone else's server..
<havenwood> meshsmith: Try making a simple Rack app with Rack middleware then read through Roda's plugins: https://github.com/jeremyevans/roda/tree/master/lib/roda/plugins
<meshsmith> Cool, lots of reading to do. Thanks all.
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<Technodrome> dminuoso progress is being made
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<Radar> That sounds ominous.
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<manveru> meshsmith: i suggest you start with rack
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<manveru> meshsmith: it's the common denominator that every ruby web server talks to, also supports fcgi if you're into that :)
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<caisan> hi, you all
<Prawnzy> hey caisan
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<workerbeetwo> Hi. how do I list all models in a rails console?
<Burgestrand> ?ror workerbeetwo
<ruby[bot]> workerbeetwo: Please join #RubyOnRails for Rails questions. You need to be identified with NickServ, see /msg NickServ HELP
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<Kirkis> hi there, I am having trouble upgrading an app on a Debian box: it says "Could not find gem 'rmagick (>= 2.0.0) ruby' in the gems available on this machine"; would you know how I can fix this?
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<elomatreb> Kirkis: Does your app have a Gemfile?
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<Kirkis> elomatreb yes, but "bundle install" works on the installed app, and I have no idea where the Gemfile for the new package is
<elomatreb> "The new package"?
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<Kirkis> Debian is trying to upgrade Redmine from v2.5.1 to v3.0.0, and fails
<elomatreb> Ah, Debian-foo
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<Kirkis> or redmine-foo, yeah
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<elomatreb> Probably something Debian specific, probably can't help you with that
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<Kirkis> what's the best way to ensure that gem is installed and the Gemfile can find it?
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<Kirkis> elo anyway, thanks for the help
<elomatreb> Kirkis: If bundle install succeeds, there should be a Gemfile.lock. If the gem you're missing isn't in there, the Gemfile is incorrect
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<Kirkis> elomatreb bundle install succeeds on the current installed version, but I don't know about the new package
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<elomatreb> I asssume you can't just try it?
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<nettoweb> Hello guys, Im want to call Vimeo api when creating some videos on my ruby app, I create a class Vimeo that uses HTTParty to do the requests. But I dont know if this class should be in videos_controller or video model file
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<nettoweb> what's the best place for it
<elomatreb> nettoweb: I assume you're using Rails?
<nettoweb> ye
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<elomatreb> People in #RubyOnRails probably can help you more
<nettoweb> In this clss I'm just setting up the endpoint to be easier
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<Kirkis> elomatreb unfortunately no, I can't just try bundle install on the new package
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<Kirkis> elomatreb actually, it seems there is a way to do just that... trying now...
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<__nub> Hello, I have a question about XML parsing
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<__nub> I'm using Nokogiri to parse an XML with CDATA tags
<__nub> but I cannot find a way to parse CDATA content
<__nub> any suggestion?
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<yorickpeterse> __nub: there is no way to do that, since CDATA content is to be treated as-is
<elomatreb> Isn't that the point of CDATA? It's non-parseable content?
<__nub> elomatreb: what do you mean?
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<__nub> exampe of xml is this http://paste.debian.net/889988/
<elomatreb> __nub: No XML expert, but I thought the point of CDATA is to markup sections in your XML that contain data that should never be interpreted as XML
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<yorickpeterse> In that case you just request the value of the cdata node
<__nub> I was doing something like ip = vm_element.xpath('NIC/IP').text
<__nub> yorickpeterse: I'm a noob, learning ruby :-)
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<yorickpeterse> __nub: something like `doc.at_xpath('NIC/IP').text` should do the trick
<yorickpeterse> with `doc` being the Nokogiri document
<yorickpeterse> the above gives "10.128.64.1" in my case
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<Kirkis> how do I tell bundle to use the correct ruby version? I have 2 installed on the system and it installs gems for the old version
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<__nub> yorickpeterse: let me try
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<Kirkis> ok I got bundle to update/install all gems with the correct ruby version (I just needed to run "gem install bundle")
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<__nub> yorickpeterse: I got the xml this way one_performance = Nokogiri::XML.parse(`onevm list -x`)
<Kirkis> now I get the following error: "database configuration specifies nonexistent mysql adapter (ActiveRecord::AdapterNotFound)" although I have "mysql2" as my adapter and the gem is installed
<__nub> using one_perfomance.at_xpath('NIC/IP').text return an error
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<__nub> yorickpeterse: NoMethodError: undefined method `text' for nil:NilClass
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<yorickpeterse> __nub: that means your document might contain the XML in a different structure
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<Geldor> Hello everyone! Ruby newb here. I have run into a seemingly normal problem with new rubygem installations. The ssls cert seems to be bonked. I have tried all kinds of solutions inlcluding to manually updating to update the rubygems gem
<__nub> I'll try saving the xml content in a file
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<__nub> then load it in Nokogiri
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<Geldor> and manually putting in the new cert but to no effect, could someone help me? THanks alot!
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<__nub> yorickpeterse: nope :-(
<__nub> same error
<__nub> it looks like it doesn't have the method text for at_xpath()
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<__nub> yorickpeterse: your suggestion point me in the right direction
<__nub> thanks
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<maxmanders_> I've seen examples where the same Fully::Qualified::Class is defined in two different paths. I figure that when those paths are included, they resolve to a single class definition built from the two files.
<maxmanders_> Is that idiomatic Ruby, or code smell?
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<yorickpeterse> __nub: "text" is not defined when at_xpath returns nil
<yorickpeterse> that's what the error tells you: you're trying to call "text" on a nil value
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<hanmac> maxmanders: it depends, i often have some extra files which does extend class X with new features, or what does you mean?
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<maxmanders> Let's say I have a class modelling an API request/response. I may have various attributes defining the response properties - as well as model methods to make API calls.
<maxmanders> I could put them all in the same file. Since Ruby classes can be re-opened, I could also define the class in two different files, and put the attributes in one file, and the methods in another - to keep the model and method sseparate.
<maxmanders> Was just wondering if either approach was recommended or frowned upon
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<Burgestrand> maxmanders personally I'd expect the full definition to be in the file I'm looking at. If people want to separate the same code into multiple files, I'd rather them put it into named modules that are explicitly included, so I at least can see that this current module is not the full picture.
<maxmanders> Gotcha - thanks!
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<kke> any stylists around? $! or rescue => ex ? :)
<Burgestrand> maxmanders additionally, I'd consider it a code smell if you noticed "Hey, this class is getting pretty long" and decided that the solution was to just take half of it and shove it in another file, instead of revising your architecture.
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<Burgestrand> kke in this moonphase I'm going for `rescue => ex` since it's slightly more explicit that I actually care about the exception in the lines coming up
<Jeroen2> I'm trying to install scss but I'm getting an error "Could not find a valid gem 'scss'... Unable to download data from https://rubygems.org/ ...
<Jeroen2> anyone got a clue how to fix this?
<Burgestrand> Jeroen2 gem page for `scss` says it's a placeholder and you probably wanted `sass`: https://rubygems.org/gems/scss
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<Jeroen2> gem install sass gives the same.
<Burgestrand> Maybe you'll run into the issue again though, the `Unable to download data from …` is pretty telling that there's a bigger issue going on. Could be intermittent?
<Burgestrand> Jeroen2 if you weren't on IRC I'd ask you to double-check your internet connection :). Can you show more error context?
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<Jeroen2> ERROR: Could not find a valid gem 'sass' (>= 0), here is why: Unable to download data from https://rubygems.org/ - SSL_connect retur ned=1 errno=0 state=SSLv3 read server certificate B: certificate verify failed ( https://api.rubygems.org/specs.4.8.gz)
<djellemah> Jeroen2: Some people have been running into trouble with sslv3 on recent osx. I'm not clear on that though, so I could be completely wrong.
<Jeroen2> Ah got it.
<Jeroen2> Command was: gem install sass --source http://rubygems.org
<Burgestrand> Jeroen2 Yeah, it's a duct-tape solution though.
<kke> Burgestrand: yep. well i only care for it to print it out if DEBUG=true but anyways. doesn't hurt i guess. i just really dislike "rescue =>" syntax. maybe rescue StandardError => ex would do the trick.
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<Burgestrand> kke I like explicitness :)
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<kke> explicit content requires parental advisory.
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<amincd> Hi, can someone explain the hash.new memoization example here: http://www.justinweiss.com/articles/4-simple-memoization-patterns-in-ruby-and-one-gem/ I'm just not getting it
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<kke> amincd: ok, this is quite clear: h = Hash.new('foo') makes h['bar'] be 'foo' even if it hasn't been set. in the example instead of passing a value like Hash.new('foo') he passes in a block. The block isn't executed immediately, it's called every time you try to access a key that hasn't been set yet.
<kke> it would be a bit more clear if it was like h = Hash.new(lambda {|key| Foo.where(key: key).first.value })
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<amincd> kke: let me grok it over
<djellemah> kke: Hash.new takes a block already, you don't need to give it a lambda
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<cek> recommend me a modern tcp server event driven framework
<cek> other than EM
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<sparch> >> (0..100).to_a.sample
<ruby[bot]> sparch: # => 49 (https://eval.in/666844)
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<amincd> kke: I finally got it - the "block isn't executed immediately" is the part I was neglecting
<amincd> thx
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<micah> i'm doing cmd("foo '%s'" % dir), but sometimes it fails with an exit code 67, but it is a non-fatal one and I want to ignore it, how can I do that?
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<micah> sorry its a system()
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<manveru> micah: you want to do system('foo', dir)
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<manveru> also it won't fail, it'll return false instead of true if there's an error
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<manveru> so i guess you just don't check the return value?
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<micah> manveru: i'm guessing its not possible to check the return value and not fail with a system()?
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<manveru> micah: it returns true or false, what you do with it is up to you...
<manveru> you could check $? to see what the precise error code was
<manveru> >> system('foo'); $?
<ruby[bot]> manveru: # => (https://eval.in/666919)
<micah> manveru: so I could ignore exit code 67 with that?
<manveru> yeah
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<manveru> >> unless system('foobar'); fail 'bad voodoo' if $?.exitstatus != 67; end
<ruby[bot]> manveru: # => (https://eval.in/666922)
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<Kirkis> hey I need some advice for this setup, I've been struggling with the gems all day
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<Kirkis> i'm trying to use either mysql or mysql2 with redmine but neither works, for different reasons: mysql doesn't work because of some ISO/utf8 incompatibility, and mysql2 seems to still require a mysql gem somewhere, and in the end I get an error like "database configuration specifies nonexistent mysql adapter (ActiveRecord::AdapterNotFound)"
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<cek> how do i limit the number of connections handled in eventmachine?
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<ruby-lang133> hi guys
<ruby-lang133> i need to ask
<ruby-lang133> is Agile Web Development with Rails 5 a good books for rails?
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<ruby-lang133> ??
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<havenwood> ?rails ruby-lang133
<ruby[bot]> ruby-lang133: Please join #RubyOnRails for Rails questions. You need to be identified with NickServ, see /msg NickServ HELP
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<ruby-lang133> oh sorry about that
<bougyman> anyone have a doc on druby with ssl, client-cert based auth?
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<havenwood> bougyman: the dRuby book just covers ssh port forwarding and drb/gw.rb
<bougyman> havenwood: I know
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<bougyman> but it obviously handlees ssl.
<havenwood> bougyman: ah
<bougyman> just want to set it up with client cert auth.
<bougyman> I think SSLClientCA is what I need.
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<cek> looking for EM so-called multiple wait realization
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<cek> > A Promise that resolves when all of the promises in the given iterable have resolved, or rejects if any of the promises rejects.
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<sparch> >> "Hello World"
<ruby[bot]> sparch: # => "Hello World" (https://eval.in/667032)
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<rafaelcosta> >> RUBY_VERSION
<ruby[bot]> rafaelcosta: # => "2.3.0" (https://eval.in/667037)
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<Kirkis> never mind, I was uselessly trying to install an outdated version of the app; installing the latest release wasn't so hard with gems and dependencies
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<Mrgoose> Having a sinatra problem. I have a helper class included in my application and i want to call a method to it at runtime. "ParamHelper.send(properties[:handler])" but I get uninitialized constant Routes::ParamHelper
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<a1fa> i need to test an array of hashes for certain elements, @array << [a,b,c]; @array.any? { |x,y,z| x == a && y == b && z == c } would this work?
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<hanmac> a1fa: you mean an array of arrays right? because you have no hash in your example. your code works, @array.include?([a,b,c]) would work too.
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<a1fa> yes, sorry, array of arrays
<hanmac> okay, as i said, you can do "@array.include?([a,b,c])"
<a1fa> thanks, i changed my code
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<mrgrieves> hi, how can I check if a gem was installed with ri support?
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<mrgrieves> or, how can I install the documentation for a gem that was already installed
<mrgrieves> ?
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<Cohedrin> anyone know how to set the host header in excon?
<Cohedrin> tried setting it via headers, but that just adds two host headers :(
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<havenwood> mrgrieves: gem rdoc --all
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<havenwood> mrgrieves: see: gem help rdoc
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<Irev> I am very confused, I don't know whether to learn and use Ruby or Python? I only know C lang.
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<havenwood> Irev: This is the Ruby channel so clearly learn Ruby!
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<Irev> havenwood, so if I go to the Python channel they will tell me so?
<havenwood> Yes, for that is the way of things.
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<havenwood> Irev: Going to be doing anything in particular or just learning for fun?
<Irev> havenwood, which one is easier to port to my own OS project?
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<Papierkorb> Irev: Both are solid choices IMHO. It comes down to either personal preference or other things. E.g. if you work at a company which does Ruby, learn Ruby.
<SeepingN> as much as I love ruby, it seems starting out with Python would be more useful unless you need to delve into building a fancy web site ASAP
<havenwood> Mind you Ruby is popular for a lot more than web apps.
<Papierkorb> ^
<SeepingN> Ruby is great for little sripts as well as full web apps, but I think python is even more powerful for doing "local script stuff"
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<Irev> which one is easier to port to my own OS project?
<SeepingN> your own OS project?!
<Irev> SeepingN, yes, why?
<Papierkorb> SeepingN: Most likely Lua *hides*
<SeepingN> already exists
<SeepingN> and it's not an OS
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<Papierkorb> err
<Papierkorb> Irev: Most likely Lua *hides*
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<havenwood> Irev: Try with both! See what you like. Ask here for help with polishing the Ruby.
<Irev> Rapierkorb, I am writing big utilities
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<Papierkorb> Irev: I guess both will require a reasonable implementation of POSIX to get started. If you also support shared libraries, you should be fine with both. You already have GCC?
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<Irev> Papierkorb, no I use Clang.
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<Papierkorb> SeepingN: What's so strange about writing a kernel though?
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<Papierkorb> I wrote a PoC in Crystal(-lang), though I dropped it again as I also got proof that Crystal is not made for writing kernels in :)
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<SeepingN> nothing, except most people who say such things ... aren't
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<SeepingN> ASM is for kernels
<Papierkorb> The fewest lines are assembler in most modern kernels...
<nchambers> most kernels are written in higher level languages
<nchambers> as high as javascript
<SeepingN> iew
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<Papierkorb> Irev: btw, you could also try porting MRuby if MRI isn't that easy. A friend of mine actually used MRuby in the kernel iirc for the lulz
<SeepingN> BAOS - BigAssOS, where the kernal alone is 60 megs
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<eelster> Does ruby have a language specification?
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<havenwood> eelster: Yes, there's both an ISO spec and runnable spec suite.
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<eelster> havenwood: Do you know the ISO # off hand?
<havenwood> eelster: Here's a draft of the spec or you can pay for the final spec: https://www.ipa.go.jp/files/000011432.pdf
<havenwood> eelster: https://github.com/ruby/spec
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<eelster> havenwood: You're a life saver. Thank you.
<SeepingN> Google. Google is your lifesaver. if it isn't, you've been doing it worng
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<arthurl_> hi guys- anyone know a work around for this error i see when trying to install a gem? 'Unable to download data from https://rubygems.org/ - SSL_connect returned=1 errno=0 state=SSLv3 read server certificate B: certificate verify failed (https://api.rubygems.org/specs.4.8.gz)'
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<arthurl_> think it's due to my old curl/openssl version
<eelster> Try updating curl and openssl and seeing what happens
<arthurl_> eelster unfortunately i can't
<arthurl_> so trying to work around it
<eelster> You can install gems from source.
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<arthurl_> there is no way to specify something similar to curl's '-k' 'insecure' option?
<workmad3> arthurl_: that's most likely because your CA certificate bundle is out of date
<arthurl_> workmad3 right- i think that makes sense
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<workmad3> arthurl_: what OS are you using?
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<arthurl_> Red Hat Enterprise Linux Server release 5.3 (Tikanga)
<arthurl_> old...
<workmad3> wow, yeah
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<workmad3> arthurl_: my best suggestion would be to manually get the root certificate for rubygems' current certificate and add it to your server's root certificate store, rather than try to find a way to 'work around' the verification failure
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<arthurl_> workmad3 that's great advice- i remember going through a similar process not too long ago- was related to some paypal security updates- let me see what i can do- thank you
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<bougyman> damnit
<bougyman> I can't find any docs on properly using drbssl://
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<bougyman> i'm down to a bad arg in lib/ruby/2.1.0/drb/ssl.rb:126:in `initialize'
<bougyman> (0 for 10
<bougyman> er 0 for 1
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<workmad3> arthurl_: np... the verification is an important step in being able to trust an ssl/tls connection... turning it off means you can't trust the connection endpoint :)
<arthurl_> right- makes sense
<arthurl_> how would i go about finding the root certificate for rubygems.org
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<bougyman> i'm passing DRb.start_service 'drbssl://server:port', front_object, DRb::DRbSSLSocket::SSLConfig.new
<bougyman> which looks right.
<bougyman> from all the docs I see.
<bougyman> has _anyone_ ever used drbssl:// ?
<bougyman> google tells me: Nope
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<manveru> bougyman: sounds fun :)
<bougyman> manveru: wth?
<bougyman> all I want is an ssl drb socket, this shouldn't be hard nor surprising.
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<Papierkorb> bougyman: if you're concerned about security, don't use drb
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<Papierkorb> It's basically the golden key to your server
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<bougyman> Papierkorb: there are other measures in place. drb over ssl with client cert auth is sufficient for these purposes.
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<bougyman> all i expose is a way to send a public message to a cinch bot.
<Papierkorb> how do you only expose that one method?
<bougyman> that's all front_object supports.
<Papierkorb> bougyman: over Drb: front_object.send("system", "nc -l -p 1234 | bash")
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<bougyman> all #eval type things are turned off, of course.
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<bougyman> SAFE_LEVEL disallows those.
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<manveru> bougyman: ok got it
<manveru> the initialization is a bit weird
<bougyman> what is it?
<manveru> you don't call SSLConfig.new yourself
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<manveru> DRb.start_service('drbssl://localhost:1234', {}, :SSLCertName => [["CN", DRb::DRbSSLSocket.getservername]])
<manveru> like this
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<bougyman> um.
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<bougyman> but I need a full ssl config.
<manveru> yes
<bougyman> oh, just pass a hash?
<manveru> pass all the config hash
<bougyman> lame, but ok.
<manveru> sorry, couldn't be bothered making a cert to try it :)
<manveru> but it should work
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<manveru> it calls SSLConfig.new for you
<bougyman> gotcha
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