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<machinewar> is it okay to use public method as a helper method to another public method
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<RonRichie> hey there! :) I've a question about Ruby, does Ruby by any chances offer capability such as listening to the browser actions? for instance... I want to setup an even listener(or something similar, whatever it is in Ruby) then whenever a new tab is opened in a browser I want the browser to perform this specific action, is this something that seems Ruby can do? thanks
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<WalterKing001> anyone pls?
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<cosmicera> I have a question about ruby as a main scripting language in Linux. I know that python 2.X is available in most distros by default, but my preference has become ruby. What are the best methods to ensure that I will be able to program in my language of choice?
<cosmicera> I really haven't been able to find an answer to the question and I really don't know where to ask it.
<cosmicera> So I came here.
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<elomatreb> cosmicera: If you want to use Ruby, you're probably going to have to get used to having to install it
<elomatreb> I don't know any Linux distro that ships with it by default. OS X has a really old version, but that's it
<cosmicera> I understand that. But is that an acceptable compromise?
<cosmicera> The best thing to do is install the ruby installer?
<elomatreb> Of course, if you like Ruby
<cosmicera> And then go from there?
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<elomatreb> On Linux, it depends on the distro. Debian-likes usually provide relatively old versions, so it can use very benefical to use dedicated tools for installing Ruby
<cosmicera> Got it.
<elomatreb> On the other hand, for example on Archlinux, you can generally use the regular ruby package
<havenwood> elomatreb: latest OS X ships with 2.0.0
<havenwood> cosmicera: Arch and Fedora have particularly nice Ruby packages, among other distros.
<cosmicera> Hmm. I think I got it. So part of setting up a distro would be install tmux install ruby.
<havenwood> cosmicera: or you can always use ruby-install: https://github.com/postmodern/ruby-install
<elomatreb> havenwood: 2.0.0 fits the defintion of really old, wouldn't you say?
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<cosmicera> And I can always make the assumption that I will be able to install ruby (at least locally).
<ytti> depends on definition of old
<havenwood> cosmicera: yeah, the system package manager Ruby is often great, depends
<cosmicera> I've been using ruby install.
<havenwood> elomatreb: true, it's in maintenance mode
<ytti> you will all the time find users who have older ruby in their OS
<ytti> and their OS version does not trivially support newer
<cosmicera> It always just felt like kind of a hack.
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<ytti> so if definition of old is sometihng that is atypical to find
<ytti> then it definitely isn't old
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<cosmicera> Thanks a lot! You have pretty much answered my first question.
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<cosmicera> Additionally, why isn't ruby a default scripting language in Linux?
<cosmicera> Why did the default go to python?
<havenwood> cosmicera: it often is
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<elomatreb> I wouldn't even call Python a default scripting language
<cosmicera> bash?
<havenwood> as a shell?
<elomatreb> bash maybe, POSIX compliant shells scripts probably
<cosmicera> As in installed by default on Linux distros.
<havenwood> cosmicera: it often is
<cosmicera> It kind of means that I have to make a bash script that assumes that there is no ruby to install ruby for me and set up my environment.
<elomatreb> havenwood: "maintenance mode"? Wikipedia says security maintenance ended in February this year
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<cosmicera> Got it. It's just usually an older version.
<havenwood> elomatreb: oh sorry, i was thinking 2.1 :-O
<havenwood> yeah, 2.0 is past end-of-life
<havenwood> 2.1's time is coming soon even
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<cosmicera> havenwood: So, assume that ruby is old on whatever distro I have and then install using the ruby-lang.org installation method.
<cosmicera> That way I can stay with the most up to date version.
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<elomatreb> cosmicera: "the ruby-lang.org installation method" -- Which do you mean? It often is not neccessary to compile from source
<havenwood> cosmicera: Or for example Brightbox maintains nice up-to-date packages for Ubuntu: https://www.brightbox.com/docs/ruby/ubuntu/
<cosmicera> rvm
<havenwood> cosmicera: ruby-install is nice to make things quick and light
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<havenwood> cosmicera: `ruby-install --latest --system ruby` to install to /usr/local/ when you don't need a Ruby version switcher
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<havenwood> chruby is being adopted by a growing list of package managers for when you need to switch Rubies
<havenwood> or yeah, rvm
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<cosmicera> havenwood: Sounds good. Thanks a lot for your help.
<pokalyis> I've a ruby script in my $PATH named git-X. I'm getting "No manual entry for X", when trying to do "git X --help". "git-X --help" works. Any idea what the problem might be?
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<pontiki> the first looks like git is looking for it
<havenwood> pokalyis: It'd be a good idea to use lowercase for you command name. Is the file executable? Is its shebang correct?
<pokalyis> havenwood X was just an example. It's called something else
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<havenwood> pokalyis: looks like it's saying there's no manpage for it? dunno why
<pokalyis> havenwood Yes, I can access the file using git-X
<pontiki> git's subcommands are written as git-subcommand
<pokalyis> pontiki Yes?
<pontiki> so git doesn't know where to find you script's man page
<pokalyis> pontiki I worked before and I've never had any man pages, which is strange. --help has always being passed directly to the script, but doesn't work for some reason
<pontiki> as `git X` ?
<pokalyis> pontiki Yes. 'git X --help'
<pokalyis> It has been working since 2012
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<pontiki> when's the last time it worked?
<pokalyis> Some users said `git X --help` didn't work as of 2014, but I couldn't reproduce it until today
<pontiki> so what's changed?
<pokalyis> pontiki Last time I ran the script it was under a different user in OS X – so some bash/zsh config
<pontiki> probably not a ruby issue?
<pokalyis> It should be the same dot file repo tho
<doxterpepper> Alright, I'm at a loss. There is some way to invoke and start a cucumber test from within ruby right? I've seen it done before but I don't know where, or I'm just crazy, probably the latter.
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<pokalyis> pontiki Tried different versions back in 2015. Couldn't reproduce it
<pontiki> doxterpepper: a step or a scenario?
<pontiki> pokalyis: did your ruby change?
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<pokalyis> pontiki No, same version. Tried a few more as well
<doxterpepper> pontiki: I'm trying to do the same thing as running cucumber from the command line but from within ruby. Like create a cucumber object with the options that would be from the command line and then invoke some run method on that object. I think I've seen it done before but I just dont' remember how
<pontiki> so still probably not ruby, pokalyis
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<pokalyis> pontiki Nope. The --help param doesn't reach the script. Git is catching it before
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<pontiki> doxterpepper: i'm sure there's a way; i haven't done that :/
<doxterpepper> There seems to be no documentation on doing that
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<WalterKing001> hey there! :) I've a question about Ruby, does Ruby by any chances offer capability such as listening to the browser actions? for instance... I want to setup an even listener(or something similar, whatever it is in Ruby) then whenever a new tab is opened in a browser I want the browser to perform this specific action, is this something that seems Ruby can do? thanks
<elomatreb> WalterKing001: You'll probably need a browser extension for that
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<WalterKing001> elomatreb that would do it, just not suitable in our case, Google doesn't like our app and it think it violates their store privacy etc etc... it is pretty much going to operate as an extension but it can not be one, it should be native-level executable file or local server
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<elomatreb> WalterKing001: You can write browser extension without uploading them to the store. But If Google doesn't like them, there is probably a reason
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<hrodrig> hola
<hrodrig> alguien conoce de mongoid?
<WalterKing001> elomatreb tried that as well, google automatically disables any extension that doesn't exist in in extension store, so even if you write your own one you can't have it up and running in your own browser, once you close the browser Chrome automatically disables it in an attempt to protect a user etc etc... well, they do have a reason but that doesn't also mean they're right, it's just what they are offering and it doesn't work with
<WalterKing001> us, having a reason doesn't say much, but do you think Ruby can help us in this situation in any way ?
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<elomatreb> WalterKing001: I don't think so. Modern browsers are designed to resist other programs meddling with them as much as possible
<hrodrig> mongoid?
<elomatreb> hrodrig: It may help if you ask in English
<hrodrig> hi... I need to parse external json file and insert values in mongoid.yml
<WalterKing001> elomatreb gotcha gotcha, I know it's totally doable in C/C++ but one should know it very well to be able to pull something like that, so that's just out of my range as well, anyways, thanks for the heads up and thanks for answering my questions :)
<hrodrig> but these values not are being parsed...
<hrodrig> some like this: database: <%= MONGOID_JSON["database"] %>
<hrodrig> I'm making the same with database.yml and these inserted values are being parsed...
<hrodrig> I think that it's something with mongoid and the way to load yaml files...
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<hrodrig> in google nothing about this fact.... :(
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<Jon30> is there a gem or built in method ot convert "http://www.google.com/hello/../hi" to "http://www.google.com/hi"
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<insanedreamer> test
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<aaaaa> Does Ruby support string formatters?
<adam12> aaaaa: like sprintf in C?
<gizmore> Ruby has own neat syntaxes iirc
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<aaaaa> %s
<gizmore> "#{rubycodehere}" is my fav
<bougyman> format()
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<elomatreb> There is also ERB in the standard library, which is basically a full templating engine. Useful when sprintf and string interpolation become unwieldy
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<dtscode> hey guys! new to ruby here. what is the standard way to handle/throw errors in ruby? should I just do it C style and return status codes?
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<elomatreb> dtscode: Ruby uses exceptions, thrown using the `raise` keyword
<dtscode> cool
<dtscode> thanks!
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<KiderSpiel> Wht’s up guys, can anyone help me with this gist?: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a68cfa8a7d590aabfb5a586afe836a22
<tobiasvl> KiderSpiel: what's the issue?
<KiderSpiel> Having some trouble hitting some Twitter bug, I think
<KiderSpiel> I get paged results, but the pages don’t add up, I’m expecting 5000+ items and I can only get ~3013
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<KiderSpiel> found some confirmation for this, but I was wondering if someone found a workaround
<tobiasvl> I don't think a general-purpose ruby channel is the best place to ask, but hey, maybe someone here has tried to do the same thing once
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<KiderSpiel> sorry, though it was the right channel
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<KiderSpiel> happy to take it to somewhere more appropriate, if someone points me out
<tobiasvl> I dunno what's more appropriate, maybe the gem has an e-mail list or something?
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<jokke> hi
<jokke> anyone here using arch? i'm having a hard time using ruby-install
<jokke> for building older rubies
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<jokke> 'scuse me ruby-build, not install
<ddffg> use ruby-install
<jokke> yeah
<jokke> ssl
<jokke> as always
<jokke> is there a way i can install it nonetheless (without downgrading openssl of course)
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<KiderSpiel> Anyone? Could use some help with this gist: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a68cfa8a7d590aabfb5a586afe836a22
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<fbt> jokke, yeah, sslv3 is considered unsafe
<fbt> Has been for a while now
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<jokke> sure
<jokke> works with the patch
<jokke> all good
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<tuxaddicted> hi
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<arne> how do i write to a stdin of a program?
<Papierkorb> arne: To a program you start from your ruby script?
<arne> yes
<arne> but also interested in the different approach
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<Papierkorb> arne: The underlying C function is popen(), whose docs if interested you can read through: man popen
<optiz0r> having php without apache probably isn't possible for us to provide. Just because apache's installed, doesn't mean you have to run the service, it's just a bit of extra disk utilisation (and disk is cheap)
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<optiz0r> damn touchpadfail, sorry
<arne> iehh php
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<Papierkorb> Apache? PHP? I'm sorry you have to go through that
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<optiz0r> fortunately not actually me, someone was asking about OS packages and i was just answering from the package management perspective :)
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<KiderSpiel> Hello, can anyone help me with this gist?: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a68cfa8a7d590aabfb5a586afe836a22
<KiderSpiel> Maybe someone here is knowledgeable of this, having troublewith paged results
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<arne> Papierkorb: thank you
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<neminis> hi! is there in ruby an array method which returns the object validating a condition?
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<neminis> because any? returns a boolean according to the given block but how to get the actual object?
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<neminis> 'select' seems right
<rue> Mheh, I am restored to my glory
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<dminuoso_> neminis: select indeed.
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<dminuoso_> neminis: Note that this is from Enumerable in general. Look at it, and learn it - you will use many of those frequently
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<neminis> dminuoso_: yes, thanks !
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<hanmac> neminis: check also #find if you only want one element
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<neminis> hanmac: okay, is it more efficient? in that case, it will always be one element anyway
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<hanmac> if you know you only want one element, use find because it doesnt check the other elements if it find one
<neminis> yes it is better
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<jokke> hey
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<jokke> is there a way to do something like this: 5.times.reduce(something, :method_on_something) without reduce passing the items from the collection it's reducing to the method?
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<dminuoso_> jokke: What is that supposed to do?
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<jokke> well _that_ isn't a very good example i understand
<dminuoso_> I mean you could do 5.times.reduce(&:+) if thats what you mean
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<jokke> no
<jokke> ok here:
<jokke> 5.times.reduce(Time.now, :prev_day)
<jokke> (i understand this works with - 1.day)
<dminuoso_> And what is that supposed to do?
<jokke> uh 5.days
<jokke> it's supposed to give me the time 5 days ago
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<dminuoso_> ?xy
<ruby[bot]> it seems like you are asking for a specific solution to a problem, instead of asking about your problem. This often leads to bad solutions and increases frustration for you and those trying to help you. More: http://meta.stackexchange.com/a/66378
<jokke> ok this is still not a good enough example
<jokke> 5.times.reduce(Time.now, :prev_month)
<jokke> tere
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<jokke> there
<dminuoso_> jokke: Don't give us an example, give us what problem you are trying to solve.
<jokke> it takes time to explain
<jokke> well ok i'll try
<dminuoso_> Then take your time, prepare a good gist.
<jokke> i need to "snap" time objects to certain boundaries
<jokke> for example to a "5 days" boundary
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<jokke> or 2 months
<jokke> or what ever
<jokke> because humans have an annoying time system i can't just go and kind of "modulo" my way through
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<jokke> this mainly applies for months
<dminuoso_> jokke: What kind of boundaries were you thinking off?
<dminuoso_> Annual quarters?
<jokke> _any_
<jokke> literally any boundaries
<jokke> 17 seconds
<jokke> 5 days
<jokke> 1 week
<jokke> what ever
<dminuoso_> jokke: The problem is that leap seconds and leap years screw up any generalized solution.
<jokke> yes
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<Burgestrand> What's the use-case?
<jokke> that's why i need to use #prev_X from active_support
<dminuoso_> It's easy to cook up a solution if you are willing to ignore leap seconds and leap years.
<jokke> Burgestrand: aggregation boundaries for time series data
<jokke> dminuoso_: i'm not willing
<Burgestrand> jokke So you have e.g. 2 months of data at a resolution of seconds, and you want to group it into X buckets where each bucket is Y long, where Y is e.g. 17 seconds, 2 weeks, 1 month?
<jokke> but it's basically irrelevant, i have a working solution, but it's not pretty
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<jokke> Burgestrand: not quite
<jokke> Y isn't always the same
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<dminuoso_> jokke: Show us your solution then.
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<dminuoso_> jokke: Though actually, no you can do this simply. Use unix time.
<dminuoso_> Then it's just a mathematical problem.
<dminuoso_> It includes leap seconds and leap years.
<dminuoso_> Then it's just timestamp % boundary
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<dminuoso_> Though it won't work in terms of "let a specific _day_ be a boundary"
<jokke> the first is obviously wrong
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<jokke> but the rest does what it should
<dminuoso_> jokke: Then replace the first using unix timestamps.
<jokke> yeah
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<jokke> i'm just not too happy about the reduce blocks
<jokke> i'm aware btw. that using these doesn't necessarily result in equally spaced aggregates
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<jokke> so something like snap_months(Time.now, 5) isn't smart
<dminuoso_> jokke: a = stuff; 5.times { a = a.prev_day }
<jokke> but snap_months(Time.now, 4) would be ok
<dminuoso_> jokke: You know..
<jokke> yeah
<dminuoso_> No reason to try to be smart with reduce.
<jokke> but then i need to add the line "a"
<jokke> :)
<dminuoso_> So what?
<jokke> yeaaah yeah
<jokke> you're right of course
<dminuoso_> Trying to jam everything into one line adds complexity, possibly performance overhead and reduces readability.
<slima> Hi, I have a problem with UTF-8 and mysql, can you see my code and hint me? http://pastebin.com/SVbYnKNK it is write file, but content is ??# (this is my first ever script in ruby 1.9.3)
<ruby[bot]> slima: we in #ruby do not like pastebin.com, it loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting. Please use https://gist.github.com
<dminuoso_> All for what, the excitement of having written a one liner?
<slima> yep, but https://gist.github.com not working now(?)
<jokke> ruby kind of inspires that sometimes
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<dminuoso_> jokke: A good rule of thumb is to let have every line of code only do one semantic piece of action. If you then name your variables sensibly, it allows anyone or you in a year from now to look at the code and immediately understand whats going on.
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<jokke> yes
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<jokke> dminuoso_: do you think this implementation is correct? https://p.jreinert.com/1Eo7/
<jokke> it won't work with leap seconds though, right?
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<jokke> ohhh it's way easier
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<sts> hello folks. has anyone ever used state_machines? I got issues when I try to transition more than once within a event. It just runs the first transition call, then nothing.
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<hanmac> jokke: hm you can checkout DateTime.new too
<hanmac> hmm i think i found a bug in Time/DateTime ... Time.now.dst? returns true, but "Time.now.to_datetime.to_time.dst? # => false"
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<Kendos-Kenlen> Hi :)
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<Kendos-Kenlen> I'm trying to write a regexp to match the following line : "tty: tty.o fc.o". I would like to get the "tty" word, plus each words after. I currently have this regexp : "/([\w.]+): *(([\w.]+) ?)*/".
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<Kendos-Kenlen> It gets the first word, "tty", but only return the last word for the second art ("fc.o"), but not the "tty.o" word.
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<ljarvis> Kendos-Kenlen: can't you test for "tty" in your regex?
<ljarvis> or can that be anything?
<Kendos-Kenlen> ljarvis: nop, because it can be anything
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<Kendos-Kenlen> Here, it's just an example :)
<ljarvis> Kendos-Kenlen: so you want "tty: tty.o"?
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<ljarvis> or..
<ljarvis> im confused
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<Kendos-Kenlen> ljarvis: i want to get the 3 words, "tty", "tty.o" and "fc.o"
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<ljarvis> so you only want to remove : ?
<Kendos-Kenlen> But my regex only return "tty" and "fc.o"
<Kendos-Kenlen> yep
<ljarvis> >> "tty: tty.o fc.o".scan(/[\w\.]+/)
<ruby[bot]> ljarvis: # => ["tty", "tty.o", "fc.o"] (https://eval.in/664376)
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<ljarvis> you can write it loads of ways really, but that works
<ljarvis> if you want a string, i'd just sub ":" for ""
<Kendos-Kenlen> ljarvis: of course !!! I'm stupid thank you ! :D
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<Kendos-Kenlen> I often try to make more complicated than necessary
<Kendos-Kenlen> Thank you :)
<ljarvis> :)
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<KiderSpiel> Can Ruby be used for twitter?
<KiderSpiel> Having trouble with this, anyone know some alternatives?
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<Kendos-Kenlen> Is there any good and easy to use graph libs in ruby ? The idea is to create a graph from an adjacency matrix
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<KiderSpiel> Kendos-Kenlen: gnuplot
<KiderSpiel> best bet
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<rippa> python has networkx, doesn't seem to be anything similar in ruby
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<rippa> RGL does graphs, but you'll have to convert it yourself
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<ych> hey, i want to monitor a script/software memory/cpu usage with Ruby. is there a gem or smth?
<ych> my command is: myExecscript python script.py
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<Kendos-Kenlen> KiderSpiel: mmmh, looks nice but a big too big for what i need. I just want to represent the graph in my program, not print it. And I would like to avoid using something else than a gem ^^°
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<KiderSpiel> then do it in a matrix, no need for charting :-\
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<ych> some sort of profiler i guess
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<KiderSpiel> you got one, Ruby Profiler
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<KiderSpiel> Can Ruby be used for twitter?
<KiderSpiel> Having trouble with this, anyone know some alternatives?
<ych> KiderSpiel it seems that it works only with ruby scripts
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<apeiros> KiderSpiel: "it breaks down" is not a useful problem description
<apeiros> but from the output, it sounds to me like you've reached the last page. given that "chunk: 0"
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<Kendos-Kenlen> KiderSpiel: not really easy to go from the bottom to the top without a graph :P
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<apeiros> KiderSpiel: no follow up?
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<KiderSpiel> "it breaks down" is not a useful problem description” <— By itself maybe not, but the output’s in the comments and you can see the chunk size going from 200 to 4 to 0, in 18 pages of 200, when there should be more than 25 pages for 5k+ items
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<apeiros> "when there should be" - information which you did not provide.
<KiderSpiel> I am reaching the last page, no doubt about that. The chunk is empty at that point, and then stops as it should.
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<KiderSpiel> What SHOULDN’T be happening is stopping at 3130 instead of 5110, I’d expect someone would point out a clear mistake for this type of situation
<apeiros> so the question boils down to "why do I get <200 items per chunk?" and that in turn is probably "twitter broken or gem broken?"
<apeiros> those are plain JSON/REST requests I assume?
<KiderSpiel> “”when there should be" - information which you did not provide.” <— please scroll up, I think I mention the 5k
<KiderSpiel> hmm, sort of, you’re close
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<KiderSpiel> I am getting 200 at a time because it’s in the options:
<KiderSpiel> options = { count: 200, page: "#{page}" }
<KiderSpiel> that’s twitter’s restriction
<apeiros> KiderSpiel: how far up should I scroll? because for me your question starts here: "16:32 KiderSpiel: Can Ruby be used for twitter?" and there's no mention of 5k
<apeiros> and it's pretty unreasonable to reask a question and expect people to search the history for previous instances of the same question.
<apeiros> KiderSpiel: no, you get less than 200, as per your own log output
<apeiros> > DEBUG: favorites: 993, chunk: 195, page: 5
<KiderSpiel> apeiros <— forget it, I don’t have the patience too and I may have posted it in other channel, rails whateva
<KiderSpiel> yes, the api replies with AT MOST 200
<KiderSpiel> something may have happened to the tweet, but they don’t change the indexing
<KiderSpiel> so you get 200, or in some cases, a few less
<KiderSpiel> noi prob with that
<apeiros> ok, so asking for 200 and getting less is expected behavior
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<apeiros> so from where do you get the 5k figure?
<KiderSpiel> the request must be paginated, so you get the first 200 with options = { count: 200, page: 1 }
<KiderSpiel> and the second with options = { count: 200, page: 2 }
<KiderSpiel> the 5k figure is just one I know, it’s on my account
<apeiros> minus the tweets which disappeared in the meantime. got that.
<KiderSpiel> but I don’t have to know that figure
<KiderSpiel> it should ask for pages of tweets until it reaches the end
<KiderSpiel> yeah, that’s it
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<KiderSpiel> and the end comes sooner than what I know for a fact is the end
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<apeiros> what happens when you perform the request for page 18 via curl?
<KiderSpiel> rewriting that: it should work for any number of favorites, I just happen to know what are the numbers here
<apeiros> or wget, or whichever other tool you'd use
<KiderSpiel> hmmm, interesting, gonna try!
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<KiderSpiel> DEBUG: favorites: 3125, chunk: 191, page: 16
<KiderSpiel> DEBUG: favorites: 3125, chunk: 0, page: 17
<KiderSpiel> DEBUG: favorites: 3125, chunk: 0, page: 18
<KiderSpiel> DEBUG: favorites: 3125, chunk: 0, page: 19
<KiderSpiel> DEBUG: favorites: 3125, chunk: 0, page: 20
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<KiderSpiel> apeiros, kinda behaves like expected
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<KiderSpiel> I was hoping there’d be an empty page there and the other items were further ahead
<KiderSpiel> huh
<apeiros> but what happens when you perform the same request with a tool like curl/wget? do you get an empty response too?
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<apeiros> because if not, then something is wrong with the gem. if you get empty responses too, then something's fisyh with twitter's api
<KiderSpiel> I don’t really know how to do it with wget
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<KiderSpiel> idk, I figure I’d need authentication
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<KiderSpiel> ok, pointed me in the right way
<apeiros> that should be doable via wget/curl too
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<KiderSpiel> I’m gonna figure out the requests and then compare. thanks for the line of reasoning, it’s gonna help later.
<apeiros> oh, oauth
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<paul_____> Hello Everyone !!
<paul_____> I'm trying to pass arg to my script
<paul_____> i would like to know which method allow me to get the next argument ?
<paul_____> i pass "--type book" to my script
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<paul_____> how can i get just the next arg when i encounter the --file pattern
<paul_____> i tried ARGV.shift but i doesn't seems to be the solution
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<vktec> Any recommendations for a transport-agnostic JSON-RPC client library? I've looked on rubygems.org for a while, but not found anything satisfactory.
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<heretogo> Does anyone know how gem changes the GEM_PATH env variable when you change working directories?
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<heretogo> I am invoking ruby as a child process and I lose my RUBY_ENV even when I change the effective working directory
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<apeiros> !fixcon frozengeek
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<LyndsySimon> I'm working on a gem, and have a dev dependency specified in the gemspec. At what point does that get installed?
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<apeiros> !fixcon frozengeek__
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<bovis> Good afternoon, everyone.
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<mikecmpbll> !ban KuraMIqjte
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<splud_> Have a problem trying to seek a file opened in append mode (you know, the mode you’d open a file in for reading and writing when you don’t want the existing contents blasted away). Seems this doesn’t work. Found it’s not a quirk I alone am experiencing.
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<splud_> Anyone know of a workaround. Should be backwards compatible (so that the script works for older versions of Ruby on embedded devices).
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* splud_ checks settings - do I have some ignore all set ?
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<manveru> splud_: any reason you don't just open it rw?
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<splud_> rw will zero the file.
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<manveru> ?
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<Papierkorb> splud_: Shouldn't "r+" open the file r/w without truncating?
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<manveru> interesting
<splud_> well, r+ will require the file to exist, so doesn’t create the file like w+ or a/a+
<manveru> but yeah, it was r+, not rw
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<manveru> so touch the file before you start your program?
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<splud_> there are scores of them. But, basically here, it sucketh that a+ can’t seek.
<manveru> well, the IO.new docs say a(+) can't seek :P
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<manveru> splud_: you can actually do it like this: https://eval.in/664526
<splud_> okay, do an open “r+” and rescue with open “w”
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<splud_> I suggest you close the brace at the end and add a oyts File.readlines( ‘bah’ ) to check your work.
<splud_> er, puts. oyts typo
<manveru> oh, sorry, bad paste :)
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<manveru> works also if you unlink the file first
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<splud_> ah, wait, your first operation seeked to 2. Nevermind. If seek to 1 (or no seek), it appears to work.
<manveru> though of course then the first 10 bytes will me \0s
<manveru> *be
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<manveru> anw, otherwise i can't imagine what more you want
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<splud_> thanks.
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<nettoweb> Hello folks, I'm trying to access .well-known directory in my nginx config (ruby on rails/puma), but I'm getting 403, here is my confi file: https://gist.github.com/osnysantos/f192575d9dc47648e0563df742a90649 . I know that's not the right place to ask this, but the problem is happening becau puma or rails setting in this file, I'm not sure. In #nginx channel I didnnt have a answer
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<manveru> nettoweb: you don't have a root entry in your location?
<manveru> oh, nvm
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<manveru> what's up with the try_files though
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<manveru> won't that try to get the file from @app?
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<manveru> and i think it should be 'location /.well-known', you don't want to match a regex
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<nettoweb> trying here
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<Phage> I have a script I want to run, let's say... Every 10 seconds. What's the recommended method to do so? Cronjobs, sleep function inside a while loop, etc.?
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<apeiros> Phage: as always - no silver bullets. with 10s, I'd probably prefer to keep it running.
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<Phage> apeiros: All right, thanks.
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<apeiros> note that 10s sleep means execution time will skew the timing.
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<apeiros> (and again - depending on what you want that won't matter at all)
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<Phage> That not a problem, the task itself won't take more than max 2 seconds.
<Phage> And I can survive a margin of 2 seconds
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<apeiros> you can also just sleep the difference to the next 10s interval
<Papierkorb> Phage: Cronjob, Pro: 1) centrally managed 2) if your script crashes, it'll have "some more tries" Con: 1) crontab files are complicated 2) more complicated to get running than a single command 3) if your task takes longer than 10secs, then you start piling processes if your cronjob daemon doesn't check prior if it's running -- While loop: Pro: 1) Really simple 2) Process is constantly "visible" in process explorer Con: 1) if your scripts crashes,
<Papierkorb> the service is down 2) The time skewing issue above
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<Phage> Papierkorb: Thanks :)
<Papierkorb> Phage: Best of both worlds, imho, is either a) make it a system service (easy with systemd) and use the while loop so it's restarted if it crashes (and properly logged) OR b) a 'smart' cronjob daemon which does not rerun the job if it's still running (Also possible with systemd, you need a .service and a .timer file)
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<Phage> Papierkorb: oh, never thought about using systemd
<Phage> Great idea
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<Papierkorb> Phage: Make sure that it finds the correct ruby installation if you're using RVM or so, and that it can find gems if you're not using bundler
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<Papierkorb> Phage: Also, you could maybe use user services instead of system services for that if the service script shall run as your user
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<Papierkorb> If it's to be run on a server though, I wouldn't use a user service
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<Phage> Papierkorb: I'll have it running on a vps
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<Papierkorb> Phage: Then write a system service, and use the User= option to drop down to a non-root user
<Phage> Brilliant. Thanks :)
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<mitchell_verter_> greetings rubyistas. can anyone advise what to do about this. i am trying to install a vagrant plugin and i get
<mitchell_verter_> Could not reach host gems.hashicorp.com. Check your network connection and try again.
<Papierkorb> Phage: cheers
<mitchell_verter_> i did try to ping the server
<mitchell_verter_> and no curve
<mitchell_verter_> no LURVE
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<manveru> mitchell_verter_: today's a bad day
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<mitchell_verter_> i h8 life
<mitchell_verter_> ugh
<mitchell_verter_> LYFE
<mitchell_verter_> thanks manveru
<apeiros> no larva?
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<mitchell_verter_> stupid spellcheck on mac corrects my malapropisms
<apeiros> you can teach it
<apeiros> right click -> learn spelling
<mitchell_verter_> ugh. i hate macs. but thanks for the tip
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<apeiros> o0 don't use one if you hate them?
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<mitchell_verter_> it's my work computer
<apeiros> bad employer?
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<mitchell_verter_> no. i just want to punch steve jobs in the kisser
<mitchell_verter_> i hope he is slowly roasting wherever he is
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<Redstone> Seriously, why should I learn Ruby instead of Python?
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<apeiros> !troll Guest56922
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<apeiros> that one again
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<hanmac> because Reasons, thats why ;P
<mitchell_verter_> i have the same question but i don't know ruby yet. are they pretty similar?
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<apeiros> mitchell_verter_: they're relatively close
<Arney> hey, has someone experience with opal?
<Arney> im trying to require inside a file that is being compiled by opal
<hanmac> mitchell_verter_: they are very similar, imo i compare them like twin sisters ... but ruby is the more meaner one ;P
<Arney> and it always seems to strip the .rb suffix
<havenwood> mitchell_verter_: They're similar in many ways but have different philosophies.
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<mitchell_verter_> cool. thanks for the reference.
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<SeepingN> how many sites are built with python?
<SeepingN> I'm not sure if I've ever been on one
<mitchell_verter_> i am building with flask
<chris2> the answer is blowing in the wind
<mitchell_verter_> i like flask
<mitchell_verter_> it makes me happy
<SeepingN> i bet
<mitchell_verter_> :) see. i am smiling
<baweaver> The answer is it's really irrelevant.
<mitchell_verter_> the only ur-elephant is the mastadon
<baweaver> all the user cares about is the UX and how fast it goes.
<mitchell_verter_> i have always heard that ruby on rails doesn't scale well
<baweaver> past that you can use whatever to get to that.
<SeepingN> it's service millions of people for us
<baweaver> mitchell_verter_: never had a problem.
<SeepingN> and taking in millions of points of data constantly
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<SeepingN> although a lot of that actual data flow is now handled more or less directly by amazon
<baweaver> Rails tends to trade speed in runtime for speed in development. Never underestimate the value of that.
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<baweaver> Though the same can be said for most scripting language based servers.
<SeepingN> esp when you're constantly updating it
<mikecmpbll> and people == expensive
<mikecmpbll> hardware == cheap :d
<mitchell_verter_> when i was applying for work , i was told that managers were switching to sinatra
<mitchell_verter_> RoR was not good for big projects
<mikecmpbll> lol sinatra
<mitchell_verter_> anyways, i don't like the mvc so much
<baweaver> Then don't use it.
<mitchell_verter_> that's why i am using flask
<mikecmpbll> yeah, mvc will never catch on.
<mitchell_verter_> i have been spoiled by node
<SeepingN> RoR runs our admin and reporting site and ruby runs on every one of our web gateway reporting devices
<mitchell_verter_> just give me a lightweight backend
<mitchell_verter_> with restful endpoints
<mitchell_verter_> that makes me happy
<mitchell_verter_> not sad
<mitchell_verter_> but i do a lot of front end dev
<mikecmpbll> you wouldn't like kim k.
<mitchell_verter_> who or what is kim k?
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<baweaver> RoR works fine for a lot of people, Flask works fine for a lot of people. Just means that different tools fill different roles.
<Arney> seriously this can't be this hard!
<mikecmpbll> i've asked myself that many a time
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<baweaver> Arney: I don't know the first thing about opal other than it's Ruby -> JS. Sorry :/
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<baweaver> Arney: try https://gitter.im/opal/opal or go to #opal
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<baweaver> you might have better luck.
<Arney> baweaver: it's so weird, i try to require 'some_file.rb'
<Arney> and it tries to read some_file
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<baweaver> require_relative
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<Arney> i tried that, acts the same
<baweaver> Yeah, I'd check their channels.
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<krasimir> trying to get a ruby app with litespeed and I seemedto have cracked it , but a small gem error. the litespeed uses /usr/local/lsws/fcgi-bin/RackRunner.rb and I get the error `require'2016-10-21 21:14:31.057 [STDERR] no such file to load -- rack
<krasimir> gem list show that this gem is installed
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<krasimir> I am not from the ruby world so I feel a bit lost
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<krasimir> I tried setting some ENV , but cannot get it right , any pointer would make make evening better:)
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<SeepingN> is /usr/local/lsws/fcgi-bin really right? with that f in there?
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<krasimir> yes
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<krasimir> this is just some runner which takes the requests from litespeed and runs the rails app
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<krasimir> the main problem is that this runner doesn't find the installed gems
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<dar123> hey guyz, how can i get a column from DB table in my script
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<havenwood> dar123: you'll have to say more
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<dar123> i have a user column in a mysql table and i have another command that generates list of online users. I want to check if which table.users are not online
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<apeiros> dar123: ok. and your question is?
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<eelster> I don't think I've ever seen this many people jion in a minute or two like this
<eelster> *join
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<eelster> Oh
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<apeiros> looks more like an irccloud related issue
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<eelster> I'm not sure. In #reddit-sysadmin the join rates aren't crazy like this
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<eelster> Is irccloud a web irc service?
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<adam12> eelster: yes
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<dar123> what is a better to query a db table column
<SeepingN> huh?
<eelster> dar123: are you using active record?
<dar123> i can run a sql query
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<dar123> just writing a script
<apeiros> dar123: yes, you can query your db using ruby
<eelster> depending upon what you are doing it might just be easier to backtick the query in.
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<apeiros> either by using the mysql driver directly, or use a a higher level framework like sequel or activerecord
<apeiros> eelster: I'd actually like to see that case :D
<eelster> apeiros: When I'm lazy as shit and don't want to import a library
<dar123> not using using active record
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<eelster> Not a good reason, but a lazy reason
<dar123> first time writing code in ruby, just did few bash scripts in the past
<apeiros> eelster: if you want to do *anything* with the result, the effort to parse the output will already far surpass a `gem install whateverdbthingy`
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<eelster> apeiros: Certainly. I backtick when I need something very, very, very basic.
<apeiros> and if you don't want to do anything with the result, I wonder why there's ruby code to invoke it :)
<dar123> i will eventually trigger an email, if any db user is not found online
<eelster> So you pretty much are querying SELECT * FROM USERS WHERE ONLINE = 0
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<apeiros> dar123: you do realize that you still haven't actually asked a question? at least I don't know what you'd like to know from us…
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<apeiros> oh, seems I missed your very first line actually
<eelster> apeiros: what was the question? I missed it as well
<apeiros> 01:29 dar123: hey guyz, how can i get a column from DB table in my script
<apeiros> anyway, same answer as already given:
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<apeiros> > either by using the mysql driver directly, or use a a higher level framework like sequel or activerecord
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<apeiros> I'd recommend sequel.