07:06 <stellar-slack1> <raymens> jed I do get the message "Lost track of consensus" now. It's a 3 node network (starting at a new genesis), should that work?

10:42 <stellar-slack1> <jojopoper> In China,I can login http://stellar.org|stellar.org, and the client still has errors. But I use a proxy server, client results is correct. http://Horizon.stellar.org|Horizon.stellar.org IP address in Chinese DNS resolution problems?

10:48 <stellar-slack1> <sacarlson> ISP filtering?

10:51 <stellar-slack1> <sacarlson> on linux for dns test you can try the command dig to check dns lookup

10:54 <stellar-slack1> <jojopoper> en.....It may be the Chinese greatwall. ToT

10:54 <stellar-slack1> <sacarlson> yes I don't think your gov likes a method of currency exchange that they have no control of.

11:21 <stellar-slack1> <dzham> wasn’t the rise in BTC due to an unofficial OK on bitcoin in China?

11:30 <stellar-slack1> <raymens> there's also a "No VAT required in the EU" conclusion by the Europen Court of Justice today

15:14 <stellar-slack1> <buhrmi> is there a country that taxes bitcoin?

15:14 <stellar-slack1> <buhrmi> how do you pay bitcoin taxes? in bitcoin?

15:16 <stellar-slack1> <jed> raymens: this is the 3 node configuration in docker?

15:16 <stellar-slack1> <raymens> yup

15:23 <stellar-slack1> <jed> yeah

15:25 <stellar-slack1> <jed> raymens: also can you paste me your .cfg?

15:26 <stellar-slack1> <raymens> I'm upgrading the machine right now, but I will as soon as it's ready :)

15:27 <stellar-slack1> <raymens> Although, maybe I can just start another session...

15:29 <stellar-slack1> <raymens> the .cfg btw is the default one. But I do have the env and starting bash script for you

15:30 <stellar-slack1> <raymens> @jed: http://pastebin.com/Ez9g3feU

15:50 <stellar-slack1> <jed> hmm seems fine. maybe you just need to --newhist

15:57 <stellar-slack1> <raymens> I'll try later on

16:25 <stellar-slack1> <brian.ebert> buhrmi: I can only answer regarding the US. We've ruled it a commodity, so capital gains tax is owed on the spread between the price it is acquired and the price it is liquidated.

16:25 <stellar-slack1> <brian.ebert> BTW, this discussion could move to #general

16:41 <stellar-slack1> <raymens> @jed: newhist doesn't seem to be in the docker start file right now https://github.com/stellar/docker-stellar-core/blob/master/start

16:44 <stellar-slack1> <jed> ok so it was already happening

16:44 <stellar-slack1> <raymens> But that seems to be using RESET and PUT. In my case, a local filesystem, it should probably use mkdir first?

16:46 <stellar-slack1> <jed> does it make the dir?

16:46 <stellar-slack1> <jed> really since you are starting fresh with two guys on forecscp the history store doesn't matter for them

16:48 <stellar-slack1> <jed> oh you need to set THRESHOLD_PERCENT=51

16:48 <stellar-slack1> <raymens> checking...

16:50 <stellar-slack1> <raymens> Yup!

16:50 <stellar-slack1> <raymens> ``` 2015-10-22T16:50:19.305 self [] [Ledger] INFO Got consensus: [seq=4, prev=c52af2, tx_count=0, sv: [ txH: 76dc8a, ct: 1445532615, upgrades: [ ] ]] 2015-10-22T16:50:19.319 self [] [Ledger] INFO Closed ledger: [seq=4, hash=6731c3] 2015-10-22T16:50:20.473 self [] [Ledger] INFO Got consensus: [seq=5, prev=6731c3, tx_count=0, sv: [ txH: 6799f7, ct: 1445532619, upgrades: [ ] ]] 2015-10-22T16:50:20.478 sel

16:50 <stellar-slack1> [seq=5, hash=0b7ed0] ```

16:50 <stellar-slack1> <raymens> Is what it should be right?

16:51 <stellar-slack1> <raymens> Want me to PR the THRESHOLD_PERCENT=51 to the sample on GH?

16:52 <stellar-slack1> <jed> sweet.

16:52 <stellar-slack1> <jed> please

16:55 <stellar-slack1> <raymens> https://github.com/stellar/docker-stellar-core/pull/33

16:55 <stellar-slack1> <raymens> Thanks jed

21:37 <stellar-slack> <raymens> Is it correct that at this time horizon-importer is required to run to have a fully functional horizon?

21:41 <stellar-slack> <scott> yes

21:41 <stellar-slack> <scott> I’ll begin working on porting horizon-importer into horizon next week

21:41 <stellar-slack> <scott> I don’t have an ETA, but after that is incorporated horizon should be standalone

21:44 <stellar-slack> <raymens> Great news :) Will you be doing in steps, by porting some stuff and then turning it off in horizon-importer, or one big overhaul when it's finished?

22:04 <stellar-slack> <scott> I think the only feasible way is one big overhaul, since I want to maintain the transactional nature of the importer (all the artifacts for a single ledger get imported in a single sql transaction), but I haven’t decided yet. I want to give some thought to what the importer’s design will look like in go before I decide anything.

22:04 <stellar-slack> <scott> All said, I don’t think it will be a huge project. A couple of weeks in the worst case

23:48 <stellar-slack> <brian.ebert> If I create two new accounts on test net and fund with friendbot, I have two accounts that each have 10K in them. I'm assuming the denomination is XLM, although I'm not fussed about that, could be anything. If I submit a transaction sending 5 from one account to the other, the receiving account has 10,005 in it, but the transmitting account is left with 9994.9999. Is the 0.0001 being taken as a fee?

23:51 <stellar-slack> <irisli> yea, the 0.0001 is the fee. The default fee is 100 stroops (equal to 0.0001)

23:52 <stellar-slack> <irisli> You can specify how much you pay for the fees (as long as it is above the minimum base fee decided by the validators)

23:52 <stellar-slack> <irisli> Take a look at this doc on fees in Stellar Core: https://www.stellar.org/developers/learn/concepts/fees.html