ChanServ changed the topic of ##yamahasynths to: Channel dedicated to questions and discussion of Yamaha FM Synthesizer internals and corresponding REing. Discussion of synthesis methods similar to the Yamaha line of chips, Sound Blasters + clones, PCM chips like RF5C68, and CD theory of operation are also on-topic. Channel logs: https://freenode.irclog.whitequark.org/~h~yamahasynths
<cr1901_modern> ej5: https://freenode.irclog.whitequark.org/~h~yamahasynths/2019-10-21#25598994; This has been done previously (citation needed), but prob interests you all the same
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<cr1901_modern> ValleyBell: What is project tasos?
<cr1901_modern> Also those samples sound nice and crisp!
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<cr1901_modern> natarii: Ahhh yes, I love when my 2612s were made in week 35 of 2017 :P
<natarii> ^_^
<natarii> at least they sold me working chips, even if they've been desecrated
<cr1901_modern> I've been seeking a broken Genesis (and Sega CD, for that matter) to extract an actual chip
<cr1901_modern> that hasn't been desecrated for peace of mind
<natarii> i bought a ton of broken ones on ebay - 99% were fine
<cr1901_modern> broken Genesises?
<natarii> yeah
<cr1901_modern> hmmmm noted :). I could extract the chip, put it back in w/ a header
<natarii> one had a cracked pcb trace from being dropped, all the others were literally fine, despite the seller putting stickers on them saying otherwise
<KitsuWhooa> <cr1901_modern> ValleyBell: What is project tasos? <-- idk, but that's my name :p
<KitsuWhooa> I'm trying to keep myself from buying broken junk off ebay to fix it
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<andlabs> [23:22:24] <cr1901_modern>natarii: Ahhh yes, I love when my 2612s were made in week 35 of 2017 :P
<andlabs> week 97 of 32 BC
<andlabs> so what's the deal with these fakes that produce no sound
<andlabs> is this a scam selling blank ceramic tops?
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<natarii> andlabs: i opened one with a hammer, there's a die inside and bond wires, but no idea what the die actually is
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<cr1901_modern> natarii: Perhaps send to whitequark if you still have it and she's still accepting Yamaha Friends?
<cr1901_modern> Yamaha Friends... like that one safari anime...
<natarii> to decap? would it even be worth it to decap an obvious fake
<cr1901_modern> indeed, but I'm curious what the actual die inside is. Does it even remotely match a 2612?
<KitsuWhooa> it could just be a bad chiup
<KitsuWhooa> chip
<cr1901_modern> Ken Shirrif did a blog post on a decap of a fake telephone chip semi-recently that ended up not being a telephone chip at all
<cr1901_modern> Maybe the idea is only exciting to me...
<KitsuWhooa> Apparently it's quite easy to decap chips using colophony/rosin
<KitsuWhooa> melts the bond wires though
<KitsuWhooa> sometimes you can even put them in a vice and squeeze them enough for it to crack open in half!
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