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<gmaxwell> man, the public derrivation stuff would have been much easier to come up with had I stumbled into this intution: https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3dp465/an_idea_for_a_simple_way_to_send_bitcoin/
<nsh> what's a nearly-empty key?
<nsh> but yeah, this is a good idea
<gmaxwell> Well it's what a BIP-32 public derrivation key is ultimately. But a different framework for arriving at it.
<nsh> right
<nsh> (off-topic, i might need some of you maybe, if inclined, to write something about how it would be less than appropriate for me to be extradited to three separate states of america for several decades of cruel and unusual punishment after a protracted pre-trail detention and an impossibly unjust trial)
<gmaxwell> Do you have an attorney or something that can suggest the form and relevant points to raise in such a letter?
<nsh> Tor Ekeland is representing currently, though no engagement yet. I have to ascertain how this request even went through when i have a sworn witness statement from the UK National Crime Agency that their investigation is ongoing
<nsh> the extradition request[s]s should be rejected out of hand on the basis of forum bar (you should be tried in your domestic country if the alleged offences were conduct there), but there is some quiddity as to the definition of where an activity was conducted, i guess
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<waxwing> nsh: sorry to hear about your troubles.
<waxwing> gmaxwell: is there a description somewhere of how the schnorr m of n sig is setup?
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<waxwing> oh, seems there's an explanation here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=511074.msg5727641#msg5727641
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<waxwing> the schnorr multisig as described there is nice and simple, but it seems like it has a higher interactivity requirement (e.g. even for 2 of 2 one party needs other party's nonce before constructing sig). although otoh bitcoin-style msig already requires pubkeys to be sent for setup, i guess.
<waxwing> well, scratch that 'caveat', that's irrelevant..
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<shesek> waxwing, not necessarily, pubkeys can be derived from a known root that's only shared once initially
<waxwing> shesek: yes, good point, that relates to the 'caveat' part, and yeah that's one reason it's not relevant. but i think the interactivity issue is interesting.
<waxwing> this is interesting: http://groups.csail.mit.edu/cis/pubs/reyzin/multisig.pdf (what adam3us pointed to at the end of that thread)
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