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<Lightsword> jl2012, is it possible to interface a stratum server to it?
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<luke-jr> Lightsword: should be *possible* at least
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<jl2012> Lightsword: I think possible, but need some customization
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<kanzure> i have a weirdo proof-of-publication scheme (well, not entirely mine i guess), except it needs some way to 'compress' a list of pubkeys (such that if someone has a pubkey, they can check a small blob of data to see whether the pubkey's privkey participated in the construction of that blob).... also i need a way to not require a list of output hashes in the block (which seems to be required t...
<kanzure> ...o prevent double spending collusion by a miner and a spender).
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<kanzure> block data structure would be: merkle root, list of pubkeys (inputs), aggregated signature of all signed inputs (single 32 byte field), a list of output hashes, aggregated signature of signed output hashes (another 32 byte field). hopefully the list of pubkeys and the list of output hashes can be eliminated through sufficiently advanced magic.
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<Lightsword> jl2012, well I got a node running, and a ckpool instance ready to test with if can patch it
<jl2012> I'm mining with internal miner only
<jl2012> I think it needs a new GBT before it could talk to an external miner
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<kanzure> https://github.com/bjornedstrom/timmy ""Trusted timestamping" is using a trusted party to sign a timestamp together with a piece of data (normally a hash of a document). This can for example be used to prove that a document was authored at, or before, a certain date. timmy is a command line tool that uses a peculiarity in the TLS protocol to let many TLS servers act as a trusted timestamping...
<kanzure> ... server. That is, you can let a TLS server, such as www.google.com, sign your hash with a timestamp provided by the server."
<kanzure> there was another tool like this, but it wasn't explicitly for timestamping. does anyone remember what it was?
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<luke-jr> jl2012: it shouldn't need a new GBT if we throw out decentralised mining (which has been mostly a failure)
<jl2012> luke-jr: yes, just need some internal customization ok GBT
<jl2012> in GBT
<luke-jr> right
<luke-jr> need to generate a fake coinbase txn
<luke-jr> and disallow changing it
<luke-jr> it'll probably break pool servers, but should work with BFGMiner/libblkmaker at least
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<jl2012> luke-jr: what is the difference between the hardfork bitfield in Header-C and in Header-B?
<jl2012> for different types of hardfork?
<luke-jr> jl2012: yes, the higher-up one can be used to change the merge-mining scheme itself
<luke-jr> the lower-down one affects only Bitcoin
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<luke-jr> eg, at some point (either before or after the first HF), I think switching to maaku's patricia trie scheme for MM would be good
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<jl2012> why not doing that at the same time?
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<luke-jr> jl2012: mostly discarded it because I was trying to save time
<luke-jr> if we want to have a proposal for January, probably need to delay that
<luke-jr> there's no way the first proposal will be adopted anyway, so meh
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<yoleaux> E2E: Erik Meijer and Leslie Lamport - Mathematical Reasoning and Distributed Systems - YouTube
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<bsm117532> I hope the community is much more accepting of a slow, careful, deliberate approach to a HF, after seeing the fiasco(s) with Ethereum.
<bsm117532> Hopefully a first draft and/or testnet in January will make Roger Ver STFU and let the rest of us be more careful.
<kanzure> the previous draft didn't; better to not care about that stuff.
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<Eliel> I get the feeling it's already impossible to shut Ver up. It feels like he's thrown rational thinking to the winds and is just out to get the "core dev team", "blockstream" or something like that.
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<jcorgan> please lets keep the politics off wizards, it is one of the last refuges of sanity :)
* nsh nods silent concurs
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