#bitcoin-wizards on 2016-12-21 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

2015-10-30 00:53 sipa changed the topic of #bitcoin-wizards to: This channel is for discussing theoretical ideas with regard to cryptocurrencies, not about short-term Bitcoin development | http://bitcoin.ninja/ | This channel is logged. | For logs and more information, visit http://bitcoin.ninja

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11:59 <waxwing> petertodd: s/non-reputable/non-repudiable/ .. but in the context of bitcoin exchanges, perhaps it wasn't an error :)

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14:09 <Taek> had an idea for unlikability

14:09 <Taek> make unconfirmed transactions able to require other unconfirmed transactions

14:10 <Taek> Then, when sending a transaction never combine outputs in a single transaction

14:10 <Taek> instead, transfer the outputs in a 1:1 ratio, with each output being transfered in a separate transaction

14:11 <Taek> have each transaction in the set require each other transction, to achieve the atomicity of a normal transaction, but then also have those transactions require a few other unconfirmed transactions in the mempool

14:12 <Taek> I guess you'd need to be a little fancier than that to make sure the original set couldn't easily be deduced by looking at the dependency graph

14:14 <Taek> if you are confident about your fees being high enough, you wouldn't need the atomicity

14:14 <Taek> then it's not even a soft fork it's just a wallet with certain spending habits

14:15 <Taek> to shrink the utxo set you could leverage something like TubmleBit or JoinMarket.

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14:24 <kanzure> Taek: well, that's easier to do now that we have wtxids i guess

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16:33 <vshtokman> Hello world.

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19:41 <fluffypony> http://www.ledgerjournal.org/ojs/index.php/ledger/issue/view/2/showToc

19:41 <fluffypony> Ledger vol 1.

19:44 <instagibbs> they really need to not drop "Journal" in the title

19:44 <instagibbs> Every "Ledger ..." permutation is already taken :)

19:46 <fluffypony> Ledjuh

19:47 <bsm117532> I know about a bajillion journals in other fields that have the word "journal" in their name.

19:48 <instagibbs> "Ledger" is already a prominent company in the space

19:48 <instagibbs> anyways, not wizardly I'll stop

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21:32 <waxwing> fluffypony: ledgr surely, get with the SV program :)

21:33 <waxwing> ledgly

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23:06 <qpm> tx:<Jeremy_Rand> Hmm, I get the impression that users coming from Matrix.org's relay are blacklisted from this channel?

23:06 <qpm> tx:<Jeremy_Rand> If that's intentional, then that's fine, I'll keep using the qpm relay... just was curious if that's intentional or a mistake.

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