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08:14 <waxwing> andytoshi, last i checked there was some brief notes on scriptless scripts in a presentation, is that still the only thing there is in public or has something else been written?

08:16 <waxwing> ok no i'm dumb, the presentation notes from milan are specifically scriptless scripts

08:16 <waxwing> i was going to shorten that to "SS" but thought better of it

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12:39 <Muis> https://data.bitcoinity.org/

12:40 <Muis> Die 'Combined Orderbook' functie is wel leuk, zocht ik al lang!

12:42 <Muis> sorry, wrong channel! my bad

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13:14 <andytoshi> waxwing: lol, yeah, i've caught myself trying to write SS many times :) i should find another word to tack onto scriptless scripts to avoid that..

13:14 <andytoshi> but yes, the milan slides are entirely scriptless scripts, and that's the best writeup that's public

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13:23 <kanzure> andytoshi: you could do SLS (scriptless scripts)

13:24 <andytoshi> oh, nice, i like that

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13:28 <bsm117532> It just needs an Orion capsule...

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13:50 <fluffypony> SLS...like the Mercedes-Benz

13:54 <sipa> ?

13:55 <fluffypony> sipa: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_SLS_AMG

13:55 <fluffypony> andytoshi: ^^

13:55 <fluffypony> logo ideas :-P

14:02 <bsm117532> https://www.nasa.gov/exploration/systems/sls/index.html

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15:12 <waxwing> heh, giacomo in his talk right now just used "SSSS" (schnorr signature scriptless scripts) :) i don't think he's here.

15:13 <waxwing> doesn't that conflict with shamir, hmm

15:18 <waxwing> darkscripts?

15:18 <kanzure> dankscripts

15:18 <kanzure> talk link plz?

15:18 <waxwing> heh

15:18 <waxwing> oh link i don't know it's the bitcoin meetup in odessa after the conference ("BIP") yesterday

15:18 <waxwing> i'll ask him when he's finished kanzure but it's probably not that interesting, just an overview of a lot of bitcoin stuff

15:19 <kanzure> odessa prime or odessa USA?

15:19 <waxwing> prime

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15:27 <andytoshi> lol, no "darkscripts", that will have a bad connotation in public. but lol @ giacomo

15:28 <kanzure> private scripts?

15:28 <waxwing> i was about to add the /s tag but kanzure 's dankscripts got me :)

15:30 <waxwing> they always sound like cheesy TV softcore movies, 'confidential assets' and so on :)

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15:48 <sipa> waxwing: /s ?

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15:49 <kanzure> sipa: /s is an internet sarcasm compatibility translation layer.

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15:50 <kanzure> without which, most forms of sarcasm are hard to transfer over the intertubes.

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20:41 <bsm117532> "private scripts"?

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20:43 <bsm117532> It does make sense to pay attention to "optics" here. A friend of mine commented the other day, looking at the list of altcoins "the naming of these projects is complete shit".

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21:09 <fluffypony> bsm117532: I agree, and we're not doing ourselves any favours with TumbleBit, MimbleWimble, or Grin (no offence intended to all involved)

21:10 <fluffypony> but I'm not a product naming expert, so I don't know how we do better, and tbh worse names than Grin have caught on

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21:15 <kanzure> name everything by taking 20 bytes from /dev/urandom, problem solved.

21:16 <fluffypony> perfect

21:17 <fluffypony> looking forward to �`�E�Gid�_�@�8�� ma�Ɔ��;�m�5@*��f˻�L��C�x:Hv�Kb0�@�Ja%��X!�I�"قm��|�2;˅�.��Q[��竢�vv��3��q��Coin

21:20 <sipa> this seems like a perfect time to shamelessly plug https://github.com/sipa/gramtropy

21:21 <sipa> generates uniformly random strings chosen from a set described by an unambiguous context-free grammar

21:21 <fluffypony> nice

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21:28 <kanzure> ah yes, the name of the program should be a publickey, and the author should have the private key.

21:28 <kanzure> then the author signs the releases.

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