#bitcoin-wizards on 2018-02-13 — irc logs at freenode.irclog.whitequark.org

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02:50 <kanzure> is it possible to make a (even centralized) system where fraudulence is forced to be explicit?

02:51 <kanzure> invalid block data is invalid.. anything not explicitly valid is invalid. but this can be bypassed if anything can be "hidden" i think.

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07:54 <waxwing> spotted on cryptography mailing list, someone published a paper in 2004 proving that PoW "doesn't work" (will be interesting to find out what that means): https://www.cl.cam.ac.uk/~rnc1/proofwork.pdf

07:55 <waxwing> hmm suppose there's nothing too amazing claiming it doesn't work for spam prevention, considering it hasn't ended up widely used.

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21:46 <kanzure> https://github.com/zcash/mpc/blob/f54c0db2d156ec602d0e26c6a63a36b6c7486b48/src/protocol/nizk.rs#L23

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22:04 <contrapumpkin> kanzure: was that in response to something?

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22:11 <kanzure> yes in regards to section 2.2 of their whitepaper

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