2013-05-26 21:04
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elliottcable >
Lol'd.
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elliottcable >
Navarr ⑊ I've never seen any photo
*except* the one in a trench, so I had no idea what you looked like.
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Willox ⑊ whatcha wanna know about git? I'm the resident gitard.
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elliottcable >
eboy ⑊ HEY!!!
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elliottcable >
whitequark ⑊ you know gqbrielle?
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elliottcable >
/via audy
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audy >
hi elliottcable
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elliottcable >
hi audy
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elliottcable >
this is cool reading
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elliottcable >
not the paper, but the thread on antibiotics and phage
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audy >
I'm too tired to finish reading the paper
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elliottcable >
Also, it's nice to read jargon that isn't programming-jargon.
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elliottcable >
It makes me happy to know there's lots of things I don't know, and somehow it makes me happy to know there's things I don't
*want* to know.
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prophile!
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prophile, meet whitequark. whitequark, prophile.
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One's a crazy Russian compiler-builder, the other a crazy British ... other-stuff-doer that sometimes designs compilers.
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elliottcable >
whitequark, prophile ⑊ both of you have expressed interest in a Paws compiler. Let's talk about this.
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alexgordon >
audy: YOU HAVE THREE UNREAD TWEETS
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alexgordon >
elliottcable
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elliottcable >
lol alexgordon
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elliottcable >
54 ſ 026 09 +alexgordon: elliottcable
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elliottcable >
54 ſ 026 09 +elliottcable: lol alexgordon
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elliottcable >
dat simultaneity.
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alexgordon
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elliottcable
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elliottcable >
alexgordon
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alexgordon >
elliottcable
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combo-breaker bullshit
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alexgordon >
elliottcable: I love bacterophages
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elliottcable >
you for got an i
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elliottcable >
that may just be the weirdest typo I've ever made
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elliottcable >
It looks
*so* exceedingly strange.
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elliottcable changed the topic of #elliottcable to: Puppy paws patter placidly through the pale passageways ...
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got to add phages in there
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elliottcable >
phage == ellipsis
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elliottcable >
so much code
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elliottcable >
so many commits
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elliottcable >
ermagerd
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brew install vim --with-lua --disable-nls --with-perl --with-python --with-python3 --with-ruby
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elliottcable >
oops --with-mzscheme
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alexgordon >
wikipedia article on bacteriophages is depressing. there's not much wrong with them, but they'll never get approval
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elliottcable >
So, I'm running into bitcoin all over the place
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Re-conncted with an old friend ... what's he working on? A bitcoin exchange.
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elliottcable >
'S WEIRD BRAH
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alexgordon >
elliottcable: oh you know the guy who's doing that?
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alexgordon >
wait, it's yrashk
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elliottcable >
yes? He's one of my oldest friends, at least as developers go.
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elliottcable >
exactly.
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alexgordon >
that's cool!
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elliottcable >
Yes!
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elliottcable >
It is.
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alexgordon >
so now you know two people working on bitcoin exchanges! :D
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elliottcable >
yes. So I told him.
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elliottcable >
Trying to get him back in here.
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elliottcable >
Are you guys competing? Or is whatever you're doing a completely different kind of product?
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alexgordon >
err, yeah probably :P
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elliottcable >
lolk
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alexgordon >
haha @ russian doll
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hi alexgordon
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Fuck.
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So, I have a problem.
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elliottcable: I told you to ban sephr years ago
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elliottcable >
lol'd
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elliottcable >
look at that shit
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elliottcable >
totally breaks my constructify()
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elliottcable >
it assumes that the return value will
*become* the constructor.
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elliottcable >
ie. rv.prototype matters, etc
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alexgordon >
I can safely say I have no idea what you're talking about
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alexgordon >
except that it seems exceedingly boring
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Nuck >
Somebody hold me down before I stab whoever invented sed
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elliottcable >
Nuck ⑊ why's that?
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Nuck >
I write a regex with a parenthesized match that can ONLY MATCH NUMBERS
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alexgordon ⑊ JavaScript?
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Nuck >
And you know what it outputs?
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Nuck >
A FUCKING STRING
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elliottcable >
it's far from boring, but it's annoying as hell
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alexgordon >
elliottcable: the problems you solve, don't seem like real problems
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alexgordon >
they're elliott problems
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Nuck >
Mmmm I see, it's not matching the thing, so it explodes
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Nuck >
But then that should be caught by my later numeral check :/
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Nuck >
Gah I hate shell scripting
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alexgordon >
elliottcable: you seem to rape javascript and then complain that it can't walk afterwards
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Nuck >
Somebody tell me, is "Alt-J - An Awesome Wave - 02 Interlude 1 (Ripe & Ruin).mp3: Audio file with ID3 version 2.4.0" less than 300? I can't tell.
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elliottcable >
no, this is definitely a real problem
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elliottcable >
really basic metaprogramming with .caller and .prototype
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elliottcable >
nothing remotely elliott about this
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alexgordon >
to.b.a?
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elliottcable >
blame expect.js
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elliottcable >
it's annoying as hell sometimes
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elliottcable >
but it's the only assertion library that isn't as ugly as assert() and
*is* compatible as far back as IE6.
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elliottcable >
might write my own that's less terribtarded some day.
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alexgordon >
when I look at assertion libraries, their intrinsic beauty is a primary concern
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elliottcable >
I can't tell if that's sarcasm or not ...
03:05
* alexgordon
goes to bed
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* elliottcable
ahrouteaor
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alexgordon >
eamiwags?
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alexgordon >
bojoblow
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Nuck >
Tonight in Sim-Elliott
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Nuck >
Actually an elliott simulator sounds like a nightmarish thing to implement
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* alexgordon
gives Nuck §200
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* Nuck
gives alexgordon a blowjob
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now why isn't there a simoleon cryptocurrency?
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Nuck >
(I just assume when people hand me money that it's in return for a blowjob)
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Nuck >
#hookerproblems
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alexgordon >
TIL Nuck is a hooker
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Nuck >
Christmas is... awkward to say the least
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Nuck >
"Thanks mom"
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elliottcable >
Fucking FUCK
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alexgordon >
SLEEEEEEEEPZZZZZZZZZZZZ
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elliottcable >
this means that the
*actual constructor* is CoffeeScript's generated wrapper up top
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elliottcable >
not my implementation on line 7.
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and I can't think of a remotely robust and sane way to detect this situation and indirect through .caller.caller.prototype
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I'm probably going to end up parsing the fucking source-code and looking for CoffeeScript idioms (_class.apply, or something)
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Got into an argument with the manager at Arby's
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elliottcable >
“Bad news for you, man. We're out of the loaded potato bites. Can I get you mozzarella sticks instead?”
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elliottcable >
“Nah, thanks. Just don't worry about it too much. :)”
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elliottcable >
“Okay, hey. What about a milkshake. Yah?”
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elliottcable >
“Nah, man. I can't. It's okay! Thanks, though.”
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elliottcable >
“But it's not okay for *me*, maaaaan. Hey. Turnovers. Turnovers? Turnovers.”
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elliottcable >
“I appreciate it! But I'm okay!”
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elliottcable >
“Two turnovers. Two, chocolate, turnovers. C'mon.”
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elliottcable >
“Okay hahaha sure. Let's do it. Two chocolate turnovers. Thanks.”
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elliottcable >
All at the drive-through window.
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elliottcable >
DUDE.
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elliottcable >
I DON'T WANT YOUR FOOD
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elliottcable >
*throws diet coke back through window*
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elliottcable >
Oh my god he wrote a note on the recipt
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elliottcable >
(Transcript: “Sorry if I'm making the wrong move >,<”)
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elliottcable >
(Fuckin' emoticon and all.)
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elliottcable >
My g'damn sandwich is on the onion bun, too, the one thing I
*did* care about.
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elliottcable >
Managerfail. Listen to the customer, so'-bro.
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From the trenches:
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“# TODO: This is surely the most fragile thing ever conceived. Contact Guinness World Records.”
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elliottcable >
The note wasn't from the manager. It was from the chick manning the window.
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elliottcable >
And that's a phone number. Didn't notice.
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elliottcable >
Anamanaguchi!
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elliottcable >
♪ Mess, Anamanaguchi
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elliottcable >
<3 Anamanaguchi
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purr >
Let it be known that elliottcable hearts Anamanaguchi.
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elliottcable >
micahjohnston ⑊ I'm sure you love this shit.
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Nuck >
♪ Anamanaguchi Airbrushed RAC Mix
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Nuck >
(Am I using it wrong?)
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elliottcable >
If it can't find it, it returns an empty string
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elliottcable >
I should fix that
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♪ Anamanaguchi Airbrushed RAC Mix
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purr >
elliottcable: Song not found. ):
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elliottcable >
there we go
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elliottcable >
If you want more flexible searching, try -song with a more general name
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elliottcable >
-song Anamanaguchi RAC
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elliottcable >
y'welcome
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elliottcable >
so, the code I just wrote, is the most insane thing
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basically. I shadow Function..apply on the function I'm returning,
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with a function that watches for the exact call-pattern that CoffeeScript's generated code uses,
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and then changes how the function I return operates when it sees one, before replaing ..apply with the normal one again.
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It's some seriously hacky shit.
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Nuck >
Just another example of elliottcode
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Nuck >
I'm used to this by now.
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elliottcable >
aww >:
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elliottcable >
I guess I need to step it up ...
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(In two years, a Senate Investigatory Committee will find you, Nuck, responsible for what followed.)
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oh, lol, gqbrielle moved to rizon
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Nuck >
Just noticed that?
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Nuck >
Though I haven't seen her in #chat in a while, and NickServ shows her 7 days gone
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elliottcable >
So, I have an idea.
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elliottcable >
Great. For web-apps and mobile shit.
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elliottcable >
But what about for open-source projects? Libraries, frameworks, command-line tools, IRC fuckin' clients?
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elliottcable >
I want something like that, but integrated with GitHub.
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elliottcable >
Something like Travis, that is
*completely* (or as nearly as can be) automated.
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elliottcable >
Drop one line of code into your project in (N) language (at the very least, it's gotta support Node and Ruby),
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elliottcable >
and boom, when any exception gets thrown, anywhere, the user, instead of just getting a stack-trace ... gets
*both* a stack-trace, and the interactive option to submit that stack-trace.
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elliottcable >
similar to what GUI users get from O.S. developers.
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elliottcable >
The stack trace gets pushed to a remote repository, along with the exact error; and is compared to other stack-traces. If the data involved isn't private (the user, not the author, gets to verify this), it gets sent too.
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elliottcable >
Any library that's open-source (whether it's registered and connected to GitHub, or just a git/svn repository) that the stack-trace delves into, is
*also* pulled into the site.
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elliottcable >
the top-level library/app/tool developer can trace the bug down, and if necessary, delegate it to a piece of software he uses, as an automated GitHub issue.
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elliottcable >
and, the entire point of all of this,
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Nuck >
woah woah woah
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elliottcable. Coming up with an actual marketable idea
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elliottcable >
that end-user that submitted it? If there's a known solution documented on the site, that solution is shoved back down-stream to the user after they submit the report.
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Nuck >
This is truly a momentous occasion
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elliottcable >
Detailed written-up “Do A, B, and C” by the developer.
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elliottcable >
such as “update to this version, I've fixed it in HEAD ... here's the commands to run” or “apply this patch”
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Nuck >
This is something I'd contribute to if it weren't in elliottcode
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elliottcable >
even a “Try to fix this automatically? (V)iew script, E(x)ecute” option, so the developer can attach a “fix this error” script to known-problematic reports.
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elliottcable >
meh, maybe someday
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elliottcable >
Paws is more important to me. hence describing it in here, knew somebody would listen.
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elliottcable >
Go build it in Rails or Express or something I can stand, and I might contribute. (=
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elliottcable >
It'd better damn-well be free for open-source projects, though.
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elliottcable >
maybe,
*maybe* with a limit on the number of reports.
04:51
* elliottcable
goes back to his dev'ing
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Nuck >
Well it's not really applicable to non-open-source stuff
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* elliottcable
laughs
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elliottcable >
sure it is
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Nuck >
Well, not as thoroughly applicable
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elliottcable >
unlike all of the ones I linked, this would aid with tracking bugs
*through your entire stack*
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elliottcable >
in your private app
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elliottcable >
get a bug report from your private, paying user? immediately track it to the responsible FOSS library you're using, and push the bug-report upstream to them.
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Nuck >
Since like 90% of libs most people use are open source, there's really no problem.
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elliottcable >
huh?
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Nuck >
Mmm I don't think I could do that, that requires manual stack-parsing and I do
*not* want to wrangle that beast
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elliottcable >
far more than 90%?
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elliottcable >
nononono
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elliottcable >
this doesn't use string-ish stack-traces
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elliottcable >
or rather, the language-level/framework-level client handles all that
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Nuck >
Even non-string stack traces
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elliottcable >
the API would have to have structured information about the bug beyond “Hey, here's a dump of text-y stuff.”
04:53
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Nuck >
Automatically tracing it down to which is
*actually* causing it is kinda, well, complicated
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Nuck >
Because one thing Rails has taught me is that one tiny bug triggers a waterfall effect
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elliottcable >
that's not supposed to be automatic.
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elliottcable >
The only
*automatic* thing needs to be knowing which libraries are involved.
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elliottcable >
Which is easy as fuck to get out of A) package.json or Gemfile.lock or whatever, and B) the stack-trace (as a hint, nothing more.)
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Nuck >
So who do you notify/check with in that case?
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elliottcable >
the interface only has to generate helpful, already-pre-filled bug-reports that the user can push to an upstream project's GitHub Issues
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Nuck >
But
*which* upstream
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elliottcable >
or, if that upstream is already on <thisservice>, then literally push the bug-report with all attached data into the inbox of the developer
04:55
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elliottcable >
again, none of that is automatic.
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Nuck >
If you have 10 upstream libs in this case, which one does it get pushed to? You can't expose this to an enduser, so this is only applicable to developers
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elliottcable >
You
*know* I'm not a fan of AI/ML; I want a human in the middle.
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elliottcable >
The project's dev still has to review all the reports and deal with them.
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Nuck >
In which case, there's only like 7 non-FOSS things that'd use it ;D
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elliottcable >
The point is to A) aggregate error reports, to the development team, in an open and accountable manner (like Issues), and B) to
*aid* that team in triaging out errors which aren't their fault
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elliottcable >
not triage them out
*for* them
04:56
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Nuck >
Oh obviously
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Nuck >
But
*WHICH* developer team
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elliottcable >
The top-level one!
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Nuck >
So... exactly what's currently done?
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elliottcable >
the one who put `require 'mytool'` in their code and started this entire mess
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elliottcable >
i.e. the program that was running when the stack-trace happened
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Nuck >
We have those
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elliottcable >
oh? for free, for open-source projects, with accountable/public reports? where? 'cause I need it
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elliottcable >
every one I've been able to find is for closed-source webapps and such
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Nuck >
usually not really "public reports" but equivalents to the stuff in like Mozilla I'm pretty sure there's a couple libs
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Nuck >
And honestly if it's just pushing a stack trace that's like... what, 2 lines in Node?
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* elliottcable
shrugs
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elliottcable >
means it's easy to make it.
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Nuck >
Oh wait no 5 cause callbacks
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elliottcable >
so go do so. l)
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Nuck >
See, what I was thinking was a dev tool which could figure out which libs are involved in a given stack trace and connect you automatically to others with the same error in one place
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elliottcable >
hmmm
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elliottcable >
>> Function.prototype.apply(null)
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purr >
elliottcable: undefined
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elliottcable >
weird.
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elliottcable >
>> Function.prototype()
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purr >
elliottcable: undefined
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elliottcable >
'course it is
04:59
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elliottcable >
Nuck ⑊ That
*is* what I'm talking about.
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elliottcable >
Again, I feel like we're talking past eachother.
04:59
* elliottcable
backs up
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Nuck >
I think we've got the same goal in mind but I'm not sure we're thinking of the same approach
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elliottcable >
for a given error a user gets, if they hit “y” and it pushes it,
04:59
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elliottcable >
they should get a URL in their terminal:
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Nuck >
See, that's not what I'm thinking
05:00
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Nuck >
My idea is more like a sort of... forum thread kinda thing
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elliottcable >
or, if it's not been investigated and named, a number ... whatever
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elliottcable >
this
*is* that
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elliottcable >
that's exactly what I'm talking about
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Nuck >
Like imagine if you connected StackOverflow to stack traces
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elliottcable >
GitHub issues discussion thread
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elliottcable >
every project that appears to be involved could be CC'd, though I expect thtat to be spammy
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elliottcable >
my point is that I'd rather require human intervention:
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elliottcable >
“This involves <this-thing> I rely on, and <this-other-thing> I rely on too”
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elliottcable >
thus pushing it upstream to the attention of those other people
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elliottcable >
*who can then see it in full-context*
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elliottcable >
i.e. the context of
*their* user (you.) 's usage-pattern, and the actual call-site and data it failed with, etcetcetc
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Nuck >
I'll have to pontificate on this. It's possible, but I think you'd need to run it on donations and it'd never be profitable
05:05
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elliottcable >
profit model is needed then
05:05
* elliottcable
shrugs
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elliottcable >
off to dev
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Nuck >
Well or do it as a service to the community
05:06
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elliottcable >
well duh
05:06
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elliottcable >
but this idea is too good
05:06
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elliottcable >
either it'd be unusably bad,
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Nuck >
I'll pop it onto my idea queue, to do eventually if I ever find time
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elliottcable >
or it'd get a
*shitton of use*
05:06
<
Nuck >
Mmm there's a middle there that I think you're not seeing
05:06
<
Nuck >
And I think that's the most likely scenario
05:08
* elliottcable
shrugs
05:08
<
elliottcable >
Man, most Elliott-hacks don't need
*documentation* and
*error handling* and
*thorough testing* and
*backwards compat*
05:08
<
elliottcable >
iawiaruwaurarahwrahwrryawryetturhitykggl,jjh
05:12
<
elliottcable >
What the fuck is this shit?
05:15
<
elliottcable >
is this f'real?
05:19
<
Nuck >
I think I win, elliottcable.
05:20
<
elliottcable >
/cms/
05:20
<
elliottcable >
lol'd
05:20
<
Nuck >
You laugh now
05:20
<
Nuck >
But it's fucking
*serious*
05:21
<
elliottcable >
This guy. Oh. mah god.
05:22
<
Nuck >
That's actually terrifying dear god
05:28
<
eboy >
elliottcable: did you ever have a tremendously awesome idea for better makefiles?
05:28
<
elliottcable >
... lolwat
05:28
<
elliottcable >
probably. why?
05:28
* elliottcable
ponders
05:28
<
elliottcable >
if I were to try to replace Make for
*C* stuff, I'd probably embed it into the files themselves.
05:29
<
elliottcable >
have some sort of pre-CPP step for finding relationships between files and involved tasks. idk.
05:30
<
eboy >
because i need a cool way to configure and build multiple software packages automatically
05:30
<
eboy >
i suppose i could just use normal makefiles
05:30
<
eboy >
not necessarily at the C level
05:30
<
elliottcable >
I dislike Make immensely.
05:30
<
eboy >
but i remember you once having a great idea and i didn't write it down or anything
05:30
<
elliottcable >
Rake's pretty excellent, truly.
05:30
* eboy
looks up how Rake works
05:31
<
elliottcable >
It's just Ruby-syntax make-tasks, sort of
05:31
<
elliottcable >
Ruby's fucking excellent for sysadmin/scripting stuff;
05:31
<
elliottcable >
step up from shell script, a
*hell* of a step up; and extremely easy to shell out from when you need to
05:31
<
elliottcable >
and Rake just gives you a really easy way to package small bits of Ruby / and / shell code together.
05:32
<
eboy >
i was like wtf ruby isn't compiled or 'built'
05:32
<
elliottcable >
Rake's for the kind of things people use .PSUEDO makefiles for
05:32
<
elliottcable >
but you can also use it for actual compilation stuff
05:32
<
elliottcable >
.PSEUDO*
05:32
<
elliottcable >
fuckin fuck
05:32
<
elliottcable >
This is
*so* finnicky.
05:33
<
elliottcable >
Having to write fucking ten lines of test per line of code for this function.
05:33
<
eboy >
how's paws going?
05:33
<
elliottcable >
quite well, honestly
05:33
<
elliottcable >
roped judofyr and somewhat micah into helping
05:33
<
elliottcable >
the old horribly-insane implementation works well; runs complex code, been using it to explore the problem space
05:34
<
elliottcable >
but needs to be reimplemented in a sane way on which we can innovate things like time-travel, distribution, etc.
05:34
<
elliottcable >
became impossible to trudge through the messy-ass codebase, so I'm starting from scratch and being extremely anal about code-quality, testing, documentation, etc
05:34
<
Nuck >
Wait eboy in #elliottcable
05:34
<
Nuck >
What the fuck is going on
05:35
<
elliottcable >
still not perfect, but getting closer.
05:35
<
eboy >
Nuck: I learned how to just accept purr for who he is
05:36
* elliottcable
grins
05:36
<
elliottcable >
really?
05:36
<
elliottcable >
-find he
05:36
<
purr >
elliottcable: Found: bot, clouds, ground, devyn, and elliottcable
05:36
<
elliottcable >
-find him
05:36
<
purr >
elliottcable: Found: nosleep, perspective, lord and savior, calm down, and vernate
05:36
<
eboy >
yeah /ignore purr
05:36
<
elliottcable >
SO CURIOUS
05:36
<
elliottcable >
awww, but that means you're missing out on all his new featuers, eboy!
05:36
<
elliottcable >
I've done dirty things to your bot-code.
05:37
<
eboy >
i'd be able to enjoy the new features if it didn't spit out random quotes
05:37
<
eboy >
and highlight me for no reason
05:37
<
elliottcable >
ahhh hah
05:37
<
elliottcable >
mmmm, some day I'll move that to a different nickname
05:37
<
elliottcable >
ProTip, since you're here:
05:37
<
elliottcable >
you probably should /ignore purr\GH and /ignore purr\ec
05:37
<
eboy >
lol well it's host-based
05:37
<
elliottcable >
use those names to publis commit/issue notifs
05:37
<
elliottcable >
and it's pretty fucking loud
05:37
<
eboy >
as long as it doesn't say my name it's okay
05:38
<
elliottcable >
no, I'm saying, if he uses a different no-join nick, then you can electively ignore *certain shit*.
05:38
<
elliottcable >
anyway
05:38
<
elliottcable >
Oh gods, why
05:38
<
elliottcable >
jeannicolas ⑊ ಠ_ಠ
05:39
<
elliottcable >
-lord and savior @ jeannicolas
05:39
<
elliottcable >
WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT
05:41
<
purr >
eboy: Found: nosleep, perspective, lord and savior, vernate, and calm down
05:41
<
eboy >
-lord and savior
05:42
<
elliottcable >
so many good memories
05:42
<
elliottcable >
-vernate
05:42
<
purr >
elliottcable: vernate (v): what micahjohnston wishes we would all do to him
05:44
<
eboy >
micahjohnston wants everyone to make him young?
05:45
<
elliottcable >
what?
05:45
<
eboy >
vernate: GNU Webster's 1913
05:45
<
eboy >
v. obsolete To become young again.
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05:54
<
eboy >
elliottcable: have you seen that cpu core estimator in javascript yet?
05:54
<
eboy >
i bet you have
05:54
<
otters >
so there are lots of parties in here
05:55
<
Nuck >
-back @ otters
05:55
<
otters >
why is it titled "Wall-e"
05:55
<
Nuck >
I don't even know
05:55
<
Nuck >
It's just naked russian juggaloes that we don't understand
05:56
<
Nuck >
Actually doesn't somebody in here speak Russian now?
05:56
<
Nuck >
elliottcable: Find me a Russian to explain the penises
06:02
<
elliottcable >
omg. otters!?
06:03
<
elliottcable >
bbl depression and sleep
06:04
<
Nuck >
otters joins, elliottcable gets depresses
06:04
<
Nuck >
Coincidence? I think not
06:08
<
otters >
hi elliottcable
08:17
<
devyn >
Nuck: elliottcable knew several when he lived in Alaska. he could see them from his backyard
08:18
<
devyn >
s/backyard/house/
10:23
<
whitequark >
elliottcable: I was sleeping
10:23
<
whitequark >
and I kind of know gqbrielle
10:23
<
whitequark >
you talked about her, but more importantly, she came here and talked on her own
10:23
<
whitequark >
which kinda demonstrates the pojnt
10:23
<
whitequark >
*point
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16:10
<
otters >
I would rate buyvm's internet connection maybe a 5/10
16:12
<
otters >
I also wish haskell was more friendly to monkeypatching
16:12
<
otters >
buuuuuut it isnt
16:14
<
alexgordon >
that's like saying you wish the ku klux klan was more friendly to black people
16:14
<
otters >
well, you should've heard the conversation I had last night
16:14
<
otters >
"I have some markdown I rendered, and I want to replace all the <pre>s with highlighted versions of their contents"
16:15
<
otters >
and the dude's like "don't do that in haskell"
16:15
<
otters >
"well, I'm using haskell"
16:15
<
otters >
"don't use Haskell"
16:16
<
alexgordon >
why the fuck would you use haskell
16:16
<
otters >
I like haskell
17:35
<
otters >
this place looks promising
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17:55
<
devyn >
alexgordon: otters keeps trying to use haskell for web development
17:55
<
devyn >
haskell is not meant to be used for web development
17:55
<
alexgordon >
lol quite
17:55
<
alexgordon >
that's why Django exists for
17:55
<
alexgordon >
or rails
17:56
<
alexgordon >
or fuck, node
17:56
<
devyn >
web development languages = very dynamic languages
17:56
<
devyn >
computational languages = very static languages
17:56
<
otters >
yeah I'm kinda getting the idea
17:56
<
alexgordon >
haskell is for doing clever things
17:56
<
otters >
well my website is insanely clever
17:56
<
alexgordon >
web development is low-grade drone work
17:56
<
otters >
and I did figure out how to fix my problem
17:56
<
alexgordon >
hence haskell is not appropriate
17:56
<
otters >
I forked markdown and patched the toHtml method to highlight the contents of pre tags
17:56
<
otters >
come at me
17:57
<
devyn >
also web dev is a double-whammy with Haskell
17:57
<
devyn >
anything IO-heavy is not Haskell's forté
17:57
<
devyn >
basically try not to do network stuff in Haskell :p
17:58
<
whitequark >
devyn: elaborate?
17:58
<
whitequark >
on haskell sucking on io-heavy tasks.
17:59
<
otters >
honestly, I'm not having too much trouble on this project
17:59
<
otters >
it's just that yesod isn't a very mature framework
18:03
<
devyn >
whitequark: it's not really that the runtime has any issue with it if you use the right libraries (e.g. you should really be using Data.Text rather than [Char])
18:03
<
devyn >
whitequark: but that the language just kinda sucks for writing
*most* IO code
18:10
<
otters >
ok i like this nick better
18:11
otters is now known as joelteon
18:12
<
joelteon >
yes this is cooler
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18:28
<
devyn >
Joel Teon sounds korean
18:28
<
joelteon >
well we know something about korean names
18:29
<
devyn >
it's not really a korean name obviously
18:29
<
devyn >
it's two syllables :p
18:29
<
Willox >
I thought it was Jo Elton
18:29
<
joelteon >
elteon jon
18:29
<
devyn >
El Teon Jon
18:29
<
joelteon >
biggest drawback:
18:30
<
joelteon >
no domain hacks
18:30
<
devyn >
welcome to the club
18:30
<
Willox >
I wish for will.ox
18:30
<
joelteon >
devyn what's yours
18:30
<
devyn >
I can't dev.yn
18:30
<
Willox >
I just got willox.co
18:30
<
joelteon >
joe.lt is taken
18:31
<
joelteon >
the apache welcome page
18:31
<
joelteon >
nothing else
18:31
<
joelteon >
what kinda bs is that
18:31
<
joelteon >
ok maybe joelteon.io
18:31
<
Willox >
Makes me sad
18:31
<
joelteon >
ahahahaha
18:32
<
joelteon >
joelt.io is good
18:32
<
Willox >
willox.com is ok
18:32
<
Willox >
A business uses it
18:32
<
Willox >
for business
18:32
<
joelteon >
business
18:33
<
Willox >
I wish I could just get something like will.io but it sounds like willy too much
18:33
<
Willox >
I am so upset I didn't buy will.io now
18:33
<
Willox >
Look at that guy looking better than me
18:33
<
joelteon >
should I do joelteon.io or joelt.io
18:33
<
Willox >
I'd say the shorter
18:33
<
joelteon >
yeah me too
18:34
<
Willox >
I think I know the guy that owns will.io
18:34
<
Willox >
My name appearsto be pretty popular
18:34
<
Willox >
I can't really get will.x
18:34
<
Willox >
Unless I go for .org.in
18:34
<
Willox >
Perfect idea: willo.xxx
18:35
<
joelteon >
ok I registered joelt.io
18:35
<
devyn >
haha joelteon 춘 얼븐 = John Weldon (close enough :p)
18:36
<
Willox >
My full name is pretty popular
18:36
<
Willox >
William Wallace
18:36
<
Willox >
so that sucks more
18:36
<
Willox >
My fullname .me is taken
18:36
<
devyn >
my name is really rare
18:37
<
Willox >
I need a name change
18:38
<
Willox >
There is actually somebody called William Willox
18:47
<
joelteon >
william wallace
18:47
<
joelteon >
clearly fuck encodings
18:51
<
vil >
my real name is really common as well
18:51
<
vil >
I'm an investment banker, I run a college, and I do yoga
18:52
<
joelteon >
that's pretty cool
18:52
<
vil >
I'm actually working on elliminating my real name from everything, it's just cleaner that way
18:53
<
joelteon >
good luck
18:53
<
vil >
it probably won't be worth the trouble, it's been out there for too long
18:54
<
vil >
should've done it when I switched usernames a while back
18:56
<
vil >
I'll have to disable Google+, since they refuse to allow pseudonyms
18:57
<
vil >
I think I've made exactly two posts ever on it :D
18:57
<
vil >
and that includes my old account
18:57
<
vil >
I dunno, I can't decide if I want to go through with this or not
19:01
<
joelteon >
oh, this is gonna be a pain
19:02
<
joelteon >
now I have to update my nginx conf, DNS records, github repo name, DB name
19:02
<
joelteon >
it's for a noble cause
19:06
<
vil >
I need a new personal domain as well
19:06
<
vil >
I want vil.io, but god are IOs expensive
19:07
<
vil >
and I own unsquared.co but have yet to do anything with it, so it's hard to justify
19:07
<
joelteon >
haha, you think .ios are expensive
19:07
<
joelteon >
otte.rs costs $160 a year
19:08
<
vil >
haha, I like your logo
19:08
<
joelteon >
joelt.io will be a nice step down
19:08
<
joelteon >
yeah, I'm keeping that logo
19:08
<
vil >
I used to be spherecat1, dumped it for vilhalmer last June
19:08
<
vil >
best handle upgrade ever
19:09
<
joelteon >
i used to be inclupye
19:09
<
joelteon >
back in the day
19:09
<
vil >
I don't have a "back in the day" yet :D
19:10
<
joelteon >
i was incluye from 2007-2012
19:10
<
joelteon >
otters till today
19:10
<
joelteon >
you all are witnessing a momentous moment
19:10
<
vil >
I love that on the internet you can just start over, in a way
19:10
<
vil >
hard to do IRL
19:11
<
joelteon >
harder to get used to
19:11
<
joelteon >
no tab complete in real life
19:11
<
vil >
that and there are legal ramifications
19:12
<
vil >
granted, I couldn't bring myself to actually delete most of my accounts, just changed the usernames
19:12
<
vil >
I wish I had used the opportunity to block some IRL people on Twitter
19:12
<
Nuck >
joelteon: You spent $160 a year on otte.rs?
19:12
<
joelteon >
Nuck: I only spent $160 once
19:12
<
joelteon >
it hasn't been a year yet
19:12
<
joelteon >
and it never will be
19:12
<
joelteon >
I'm canceling it after joelt.io is set up
19:13
<
Nuck >
otte.rs is such an epic url
19:13
<
joelteon >
I like joelt.io
19:13
<
joelteon >
yeah but otters has nothing to do with me now
19:13
<
joelteon >
joel is actually my name so that makes sense
19:13
<
Nuck >
My name is Peter
19:13
<
Nuck >
Do you see me walking around under that name?
19:13
<
joelteon >
but my name is joelteon now
19:13
<
joelteon >
a guy with the handle "joelteon" with a website called otte.rs?
19:13
<
Nuck >
Real names are for faaaaaaaaaaaags
19:13
<
joelteon >
makes no sense
19:13
<
joelteon >
anyway, it's expensive as fuckballs
19:14
<
vil >
but the point stands
19:14
<
Nuck >
joelteon: You should try and sell it to some otter-based charity
19:14
<
Nuck >
For like $2000
19:14
<
joelteon >
ok, that's an idea
19:14
<
joelteon >
because it's paid until december
19:15
<
Nuck >
Because it is
*really* an awesome domain
19:15
<
joelteon >
canceling it won't do me any good
19:15
<
joelteon >
yeah I know it is
19:15
<
joelteon >
my new email I guess is gonna be me@joelt.io
19:15
<
joelteon >
doesn't really roll off the tongue
19:16
<
Nuck >
Doesn't immediately translate to joelt.io
19:16
<
vil >
I don't like using me@, but vil@vil.io would be redundant
19:16
<
joelteon >
maybe god@joelt.io
19:16
<
Nuck >
I've got me@plejeck.com ... I think
19:16
<
vil >
maybe hello@vil.io
19:17
<
vil >
I've forgotten which forwarders I have set up on unsquared.co
19:17
<
Nuck >
prostitution.orders@vil.io
19:17
<
Nuck >
I think I configured NFS to do a wildcard redirect from plejeck.com over to my gmail
19:18
<
vil >
I have a few set up that get labelled by gmail
19:18
<
joelteon >
heh, >using gmail
19:18
<
Nuck >
What do you use, Hotmail?
19:19
<
Nuck >
Maybe Yahoo! Email for the Elderly?
19:19
<
vil >
gmail is teh awesome
19:19
<
joelteon >
I have my own email server, so I don't use third parties
19:19
<
joelteon >
well and the work email is on Exchange
19:19
<
vil >
I've considering just running my own, but my server isn't stable enough
19:19
<
Nuck >
too much trouble
19:19
<
joelteon >
yeah, no fucking kidding
19:19
<
Nuck >
Honestly, I've run my own
19:19
<
Nuck >
It's not fucking easy
19:19
<
joelteon >
it took me a total of 11 hours to configure postfix properly
19:20
<
joelteon >
in the process I found a bug in postfix that the people in #postfix helped me resolve
19:20
<
Nuck >
Spam filters are a pain in the ass, postfix is nigh impossible to configure correctly (especially so your emails don't bounce)
19:20
<
vil >
joelteon: who's your registrar?
19:20
<
joelteon >
AFTER 2 hours of saying "It's clearly Apple Mail.app's fault, not postfix's."
19:20
<
joelteon >
vil: 101domain
19:20
<
Nuck >
NearlyFreeSpeech <3
19:20
<
joelteon >
I was like "ok, but it's happening in Mail.app, Thunderbird, and Sparrow."
19:20
<
vil >
I just moved mine to iwantmyname
19:21
<
joelteon >
101domain is the only registrar I could find that does .rs because serbia requires trustee service
19:21
<
joelteon >
but joelt.io is a lot cheaper on iwantmyname than 101domain
19:21
<
vil >
vil@unsquared.co gets to me, as does admin@ for whois purposes
19:21
<
Nuck >
Ah I have a wildcard forwarding but I disabled it until I have my site set up
19:21
<
joelteon >
so that might be something to do
19:22
<
Willox >
Nuck, I managed to find a PSU for that desktop I was talking about
19:22
<
vil >
joelteon: they've been awesome so far
19:22
<
Nuck >
Willox: Oh nice, you installing Gentoo now?
19:22
<
joelteon >
yeah, they look awesome
19:22
<
Willox >
But the cpu power cable was literally 1mm too short to work
19:22
<
joelteon >
101domain is absolutely fucking horrible
19:22
<
vil >
granted I haven't had any issues to really test them with
19:22
<
Nuck >
Willox: hahahaha holy shit that's terrible. Streeeeeeetch it
19:22
<
joelteon >
and they take buttloads of time to register
19:22
<
Willox >
Just gonna wait till I get a new proper psu for it
19:22
<
Willox >
And I'll chuck the graphics card back in too
19:23
<
Nuck >
I am
*incredibly* happy with NFSN
19:23
<
vil >
read that as NSFW and it still made sense
19:23
<
joelteon >
NFSN is
*okay*
19:23
<
Nuck >
They're cheap for a static host
19:23
<
Nuck >
And that's all I care about :D
19:24
<
joelteon >
oh, yeah, I don't use static
19:24
<
joelteon >
I haven't been 13 for a long time
19:24
<
vil >
I pay $100 a year for inmotion hosting and I'm currently serving a "nothing here yet" page
19:24
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vil >
probably should fix that
19:24
<
Nuck >
I'm working on a framework (inspired by Jekyll) that'll power my site
19:25
<
Nuck >
It'll be like a tumblog that takes inputs from various sources (Github commits, blog posts, etc.) and compiles them
19:25
<
vil >
lol blog posts
19:25
<
vil >
I tried to do those once
19:25
<
joelteon >
i always run out of steam
19:25
<
Nuck >
I've got a few blog post ideas lined up
19:25
<
vil >
I wonder if my old blogger blog is still there?
19:25
<
Nuck >
I've got a better blog planned though: loli hentai reviews
19:25
<
vil >
dear lord it is
19:25
<
vil >
I should wipe these out
19:26
<
Nuck >
I imagine my old ShitPress blogs are still around
19:26
<
joelteon >
i'm glad joeldt.net is down
19:26
<
joelteon >
that was quite an experience
19:26
<
vil >
there's my game dev blog
19:26
<
vil >
from when I was like 13
19:26
<
Nuck >
You fucking yiffer, vil
19:26
<
vil >
YOU HAVE NO PROOF OF THAT
19:26
<
joelteon >
huh. cat world
19:26
<
vil >
I did, and still do, suck at naming things
19:27
<
Nuck >
Dat Drupal knockoff tho
19:27
<
joelteon >
are you good at cache invalidation
19:27
<
vil >
it was a long time ago, anyway
19:27
<
Nuck >
>cache invalidation
19:27
<
Nuck >
Of what variety?
19:27
<
joelteon >
well there are only two hard things in computer science
19:27
<
joelteon >
three hard things
19:27
<
joelteon >
cache invalidation
19:27
<
joelteon >
naming things
19:27
<
joelteon >
understanding paws
19:27
<
Nuck >
Cache invalidation is easy with Etags or dep trees
19:27
<
vil >
and off by one errors
19:28
<
joelteon >
I meant four things
19:28
<
joelteon >
case in point
19:28
<
vil >
no, your count was correct. :D
19:28
<
Nuck >
I believe Rails handles dep trees now, under the name "nesting doll caching"
19:28
<
joelteon >
russian doll caching
19:28
<
joelteon >
matryoska
19:28
<
Nuck >
Same diff, it's all matroskas
19:28
<
joelteon >
матрёшка
19:28
<
vil >
oh, this is still here too
19:28
<
joelteon >
that's pretty
19:29
<
vil >
thanks! done in Inkscape
19:29
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Nuck >
But anyways, that system works. And Etags are
*really* easy
19:29
<
Nuck >
You just use a timestamp and call it done
19:29
<
vil >
it moves when you resize the window as well
19:29
<
vil >
a prior version of it had a live sun as well
19:29
<
vil >
dunno where that one ended up
19:30
<
Nuck >
vil: 10/10 would bang
19:32
<
joelteon >
i remember the days when I would use ChatZilla
19:32
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joelteon >
that was the shit
19:32
<
vil >
oh neat, forgot that I'd set up an open id redirect thing
19:32
<
Nuck >
Even I used mIRC years ago
19:33
<
Nuck >
Nowadays, though, it's weechat masterrace
19:33
<
joelteon >
weechat and ZNC
19:35
<
joelteon >
haha nerd
19:35
<
Willox >
I use HexChat and ZNC
19:35
<
joelteon >
weechat is like irssi with better defaults
19:36
<
joelteon >
and, you know, support for more than perl
19:36
<
Nuck >
yeah ZNC here too
19:36
<
joelteon >
yeah ZNC here too
19:36
<
Nuck >
joelteon: Also more easily customizable, if slightly less customizable
19:36
<
joelteon >
yeah, I guess so
19:36
<
joelteon >
weechat is pretty customizable
19:37
<
Willox >
I use hexchat because windows
19:37
<
Willox >
fuck power supplies
19:37
<
Willox >
I hate them now
19:37
<
Nuck >
Quite, but irssi as I understand gives you closer access to what is displayed
19:37
<
Nuck >
Willox: Just dualboot, man
19:37
<
Nuck >
I dualboot Arch and OSX
19:37
<
Willox >
All I need is like a 50 quid PSU
19:37
<
Nuck >
I keep OS X for gaming (it's better than Linux) and for Photoshop
19:37
<
Nuck >
Damn briticisms
19:38
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Willox >
I like saying quid
19:38
<
Willox >
I imagine OSX gets nice drivers
19:38
<
Nuck >
as do all brits
19:38
<
Nuck >
Willox: I wouldn't call it "gets" because it just sorta ships with magic works-with-the-hardware dust
19:38
<
joelteon >
yeah all brits get nice drivers
19:38
<
Willox >
I imagine OS X 'has' nice drivers
19:39
<
Nuck >
I imagine OS X sucks british cocks
19:39
<
vil >
I can verify that irssi lets you configure absoultely everything, and that it is very easy to break
19:39
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joelteon >
i can vilify irssi
19:39
<
Nuck >
You'd know, you broke it daily for a while
19:39
<
Willox >
You should definitely use finch
19:39
<
vil >
I blame elliottcable
19:39
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vil >
it's his config
19:39
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Nuck >
vil: Well yes, everything is his fault
19:39
<
Willox >
Nuck, heard of pidgin?
19:39
<
vil >
or was, I've changed almost everything
19:39
<
Willox >
Console version of pidgin = finch
19:40
<
Willox >
and as pidgin is awful for irc
19:40
<
Willox >
The definitely was meant to be sarcastic
19:40
<
Nuck >
pidgin lebarf
19:40
<
Nuck >
vil: Mine has changed so much. I'm on a light-background terminal now
19:41
<
vil >
not a fan of light-backgrounds
19:41
<
Willox >
I think i just need a decent 500w psu
19:42
<
Willox >
I like dark editors
19:42
<
Willox >
so it makes sense to have a dark background everything
19:42
<
whitequark >
let's stop masturbating
19:42
<
whitequark >
this light vs dark discussion has bored me already *just in this channel*. countless times
19:43
<
Willox >
Have you ever seen a dark vs light irc client discussion, though?
19:44
<
whitequark >
i don't care
19:44
<
whitequark >
it doesn't matter
19:44
<
whitequark >
because
19:44
<
whitequark >
it amounts to personal preference/convenience
19:44
<
Nuck >
whitequark: This is #elliottcable, expecting us not to circlejerk around is like... Well, expecting us not to circlejerk around
19:44
<
whitequark >
Nuck: fuck you
19:44
<
Nuck >
Neither is better, but mine is pretty :3
19:44
<
Willox >
My client gives everybody rainbow names
19:44
<
vil >
pretty is good
19:45
<
Willox >
Actually, name colour in my client is based on what peoples names are
19:45
<
Willox >
So it's the same every session, but different for each person
19:45
<
Willox >
Pretty nice
19:45
<
Willox >
whoever thought of that
19:45
<
Nuck >
I've been trying to coerce the weechat devs to base it on host instead tho
19:45
<
Willox >
You're turqoise for me
19:45
<
Nuck >
And you are green
19:46
<
Willox >
Doing it from hostname makes sense
19:46
<
Nuck >
Willox: Yes. Yes it does. But nope, they're resisting
19:46
<
Willox >
I guess I have to show you my ~beauty~
19:46
<
vil >
Nuck: good lord, 341 unread messages on DA?
19:47
<
Nuck >
vil: I never go through the message center, and I was at one time a popular deviant ^^;
19:47
<
Nuck >
(also pomf.se is the most kawaii file host ever)
19:47
<
Willox >
Very content-filled
19:48
<
Willox >
My volume task icon broke yesterday
19:48
<
Willox >
so it's clear now
19:48
<
Willox >
I hope it isn't something bad
19:48
<
Nuck >
That's not fair, showing a bareback desktop
19:48
<
Willox >
I can't show you my secret content!
19:48
<
vil >
damn, blogger got pretty
19:49
<
vil >
mine is chrome on the big monitor, twitter and this on the MBA's
19:49
<
vil >
nothing interesting
19:49
<
micahjohnston >
hi hi hi
19:49
<
vil >
micahjohnston!
19:49
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Willox >
hi micahjohnston
19:50
<
micahjohnston >
hi Willox
19:50
<
micahjohnston >
hi vil
19:50
<
micahjohnston >
great
19:50
<
micahjohnston >
school is almost over
19:50
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Willox >
Why do these powersupplies have LEDs in them
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vil >
Willox: because PERTY LIGHTS
19:50
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micahjohnston >
trying to muster up the last little bit of motivation to do this silly busy work
19:50
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Willox >
In a POWERSUPPLY
19:50
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micahjohnston >
hoping I get Bs and up for a scholarship
19:50
<
micahjohnston >
woke up early at had breakfast at a diner with the debate team
19:50
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micahjohnston >
was nice
19:50
<
micahjohnston >
going to see Postal Service tonight
19:50
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micahjohnston >
great day
19:51
<
vil >
saw that on Twitter
19:51
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vil >
good lord, I have SIX blogs on blogger?
19:51
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vil >
delete all the things
19:51
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micahjohnston >
thanks
19:51
<
micahjohnston >
haha
19:52
<
vil >
heh, I forgot I designed a search engine once
19:52
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Willox >
Nuck, I also noticed that the motherboard I was going to use doesn't even have integrated graphics
19:52
<
Willox >
Silly ol' me
19:53
<
Willox >
I found a nice £40 PSU that'll do me fine
19:53
<
Willox >
semi modular too
19:53
<
Nuck >
I am clearly superior
19:53
<
Willox >
you and your japanese
19:53
<
Willox >
Is that a terminal?
19:53
<
Nuck >
Still need to get Compton set up with proper gaussian blur
19:53
<
Nuck >
Because on real OSes, we have proper terminals
19:54
<
Nuck >
The thing I'm most proud of is that I'm only using one font family everywhere
19:54
<
Willox >
I do use linux
19:54
<
Nuck >
monospace and sans-serif
19:54
<
Willox >
Just not for any desktops
19:54
<
vil >
nothing at all on the other one, except my awesome wallpaper
19:54
<
Willox >
SO is that was an apple product actually looks like, vil?
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19:54
<
Nuck >
vil: dat analog clock
19:55
<
Willox >
Why analog
19:55
<
Willox >
You can't even use that
19:55
<
Nuck >
Willox: Technically mine is also a fruit
19:55
<
Willox >
What fruit is yours?
19:55
<
vil >
well, my menubar is modified, but yeah
19:55
<
Willox >
Because dual boot?
19:55
<
vil >
analog because it gives me a general idea when I glance
19:55
<
Willox >
I wouldn't call your OS an Apple product :v
19:55
<
Nuck >
vil: Yuck. I can't read analog at a glance
19:55
<
vil >
there's a printout in my terminal always anyway
19:56
<
Willox >
vil, you could have it so you see the precise time when you glance :D
19:56
<
Nuck >
Willox: Well my monitor configuration file is
19:56
<
Nuck >
vil: Ah yeah I disable that and use a global one
19:56
<
Nuck >
Since I'm rarely in terminal now
19:56
<
Willox >
Your wallpapers are all too busy for me
19:56
<
Willox >
I don't even like the default windows one
19:57
<
Nuck >
the weebs are strong with this one.
19:57
<
Willox >
Nuck, what font-family?
19:58
<
vil >
Willox: normally I would agree, but it's always entirely hidden anyway
19:58
<
vil >
Willox: I enjoy it for a few minutes a day it's visible
19:58
<
vil >
good lord why
19:58
<
Willox >
I don't use it!
19:58
<
Willox >
I did that this morning though, to be honest
19:59
<
Willox >
That is a very nice looking irssi window
19:59
<
vil >
Willox: thanks! designed the color scheme myself
19:59
<
vil >
the bottom status bar is tmux
20:00
<
Willox >
It's similar to my sublime text color scheme
20:00
<
Willox >
Less yellow
20:00
<
Willox >
(that sounds awful)
20:00
<
vil >
total of eight (8) blogs deleted
20:00
<
Willox >
I have f.lux running :v
20:01
<
Willox >
That explains it
20:01
<
vil >
never got around to trying f.lux
20:01
<
Willox >
I don't know if the screenshot I sent you is correct or not
20:01
<
Nuck >
I hate f.lux
20:01
<
Nuck >
It's an interesting concept but nothx
20:01
<
vil >
I have Shady hiding in the menubar for late at night
20:01
<
Willox >
Nuck, what font family was it?
20:02
<
Nuck >
Full font family made by a Japanese dude
20:02
<
Willox >
Just because it supports japanese?
20:02
<
Willox >
I like Droid Sans
20:02
<
Willox >
and Droid Sans Mono
20:02
<
Nuck >
Nah, I found it when I was searching for a Japanese font and just fell in love with the thin strokes of the font in English
20:03
<
Nuck >
Ended up my font for everything
20:03
<
joelteon >
M+ is great
20:03
<
joelteon >
horizontally compressed
20:03
<
Nuck >
It's tall and narrow, and the variance in weights is nice too
20:04
<
Nuck >
I tend towards the thinner fonts because I have awesome antialiasing
20:04
<
joelteon >
I tend towards the thinner fonts because i have an extremely high DPI display
20:04
<
joelteon >
come at me
20:04
<
Willox >
ClearType!
20:04
<
Nuck >
I have OSX-based rendering on Linux via FreeType2's Infinality mod
20:04
<
joelteon >
haha, windows font smoothing
20:04
<
joelteon >
oh jesus
20:05
<
Willox >
Although, you should see windows WITHOUT cleartype
20:05
<
joelteon >
even worse
20:05
<
joelteon >
second one is better
20:05
<
Willox >
I disagree
20:06
<
Willox >
ClearType is definitely better than windows default font rendering
20:06
<
Nuck >
It's bad and worse
20:06
<
Willox >
But it's not the best
20:06
<
Willox >
DirectWrite is pretty nice
20:06
<
Willox >
Nuck, I tried it
20:06
<
Willox >
and everything broke
20:06
<
Willox >
DirectWrite is nice though
20:06
<
Nuck >
Yeah, I just know every windows user I've met on /g/ uses that or GDI++
20:07
<
Willox >
ClearType is left
20:07
<
joelteon >
wh-which one is better
20:07
<
Willox >
DirectWrite is right
20:07
<
Nuck >
Still unimpressed by the one at right
20:07
<
Willox >
Although - as the name implies - it's DirectX
20:07
<
Nuck >
The 18pt T is kinda shitty
20:07
<
Willox >
Compare the size 11s
20:08
<
joelteon >
man, font rendering on the retina display is absolutely insane though
20:08
<
Nuck >
I hear Linux finally got subpixel hinting in the latest FreeType2, which makes the type almost as good as Mac's
20:08
<
joelteon >
it is painfully beautiful
20:08
<
Nuck >
joelteon: That's because Apple made a bet that paid off
20:08
<
joelteon >
yeah, that's apple's thing
20:08
<
Willox >
I like my kindle's font rendering
20:09
<
Nuck >
They bet on higher-res screens, ignoring the pixel-latching that Windows was doing
20:09
<
joelteon >
kindles are nice too
20:09
<
Nuck >
So their fonts were blurrier on low-res but
*gorgeous* on high-res
20:09
<
Willox >
I have to say that large fonts that don't look nice are an instant turn-off
20:09
<
Nuck >
Though interestingly, what looks good is often harder to read
20:10
<
Nuck >
Some recent studies in kerning showed that even spacing is actual a negative for reading
20:10
<
Nuck >
But is aesthetically a positive
20:10
<
Nuck >
Your eyes can more easily track locations with the uneven pattern
20:10
<
Willox >
windows left, os x right
20:10
<
Willox >
(quite old)
20:11
<
Willox >
But it's interesting how the sizes differ
20:11
<
Nuck >
It's actually really simple to explain, though
20:11
<
Nuck >
OSX chose accuracy, Windows chose readability
20:11
<
joelteon >
the one on the right is more readable
20:11
<
Willox >
sounds right
20:11
<
Nuck >
I think the most interesting difference is in the bolds
20:12
<
Nuck >
OS X did bolds the way bolds were done for years - gently
20:12
<
Willox >
The issuew ith Cleartype is that you can customize it
20:12
<
Nuck >
Windows' pixel latching raped bolds and caused a higher contrast
20:12
<
Nuck >
Which completely changed the meaning of bolds
20:12
<
Nuck >
joelteon: I'd actually argue the opposite
20:13
<
Nuck >
In headers, right is easier
20:13
<
joelteon >
I think the one on the right is more readable
20:13
<
vil >
yeah, Windows is definitely better for readability at small sizes
20:13
<
vil >
if only because it eliminates blurriness
20:13
<
vil >
less distracting
20:13
<
Nuck >
But for body copy, left is probably far easier because of higher contrast and less even spacing
20:13
<
Willox >
But you shouldn't ever have to read text that small :v
20:13
<
vil >
destroys the letterforms, though
20:13
<
joelteon >
I'm distracted by how gross it looks
20:14
<
Nuck >
vil: Honestly, burriness isn't a problem anymore
20:14
<
Nuck >
Mac does subpixel too
20:14
<
vil >
yeah, same here joelteon
20:14
<
Nuck >
Yeah, but that's aesthetics. It's aesthetically better on OSX, but readably better on Windows. Well, was.
20:14
<
Nuck >
Not anymore, OSX's implementation of subpixel is as good as or better than Windows'
20:15
<
vil >
yep. I rarely run across text that can't be read because of the size
20:15
<
joelteon >
yeah, the thing is, I can't read things with really terrible rendering
20:15
<
joelteon >
because I find it distracting
20:16
<
Willox >
I spent 2 hours reading about subpixel rendering once
20:16
<
Willox >
Let's change topic
20:16
<
Willox >
I don't enjoy my IT lessons :v
20:17
<
Willox >
It's amazing that people came up with subpixel rendering though
20:17
<
Nuck >
It is pretty ingenious.
20:17
<
vil >
it's amazing that people came up with most of this stuff
20:18
<
joelteon >
You know what's cool?
20:18
<
joelteon >
when you google a phrase and you click on a result and the text that you searched for isn't in the body of the page
20:18
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Willox >
it's so advanced
20:18
<
Willox >
That is defines your search for you
20:18
<
vil >
usually happens to me on aggrigation pages where the content has pushed the result off the bottom
20:19
<
vil >
your corners are square
20:19
<
vil >
where can I get that
20:19
<
joelteon >
vil: I think I have the sartfile
20:19
<
Willox >
I don't understand why os x has the dots for close/minimize etc
20:19
<
joelteon >
I'll upload it
20:19
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vil >
Willox: because it's pretty
20:19
<
Willox >
It makes all of their hard work on making everything silver wasted
20:20
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vil >
though the first setting I change is to switch them to graphite
20:20
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vil >
thank you sir!
20:20
<
joelteon >
I also use xnomad
20:20
<
joelteon >
which is pre-alpha software, but I like it
20:20
<
vil >
revertable if something goes wrong I assume?
20:20
<
joelteon >
github fjolnir/xnomad
20:20
<
joelteon >
just backup your old one
20:20
<
Willox >
amazing, joelteon
20:21
<
joelteon >
yeah, it's good stuff
20:21
<
Willox >
What have they done with those line numbers
20:21
<
joelteon >
i dunno that's pretty weird
20:21
<
joelteon >
never noticed that before
20:21
<
vil >
it's counting away from the selected line
20:22
<
Willox >
That's almost useless
20:22
<
vil >
dunno why you would ever do that
20:22
<
joelteon >
that's quite useless
20:22
<
vil >
but I remember seeing a setting for it
20:22
<
vil >
probably for line jumping in vim
20:22
<
joelteon >
I would think so
20:23
<
vil >
I use Moom, which achieves the same effect as xnomad
20:23
<
vil >
not as configurable though
20:23
<
Willox >
I want my other desktop now :(
20:23
<
Willox >
windows looks bad
20:24
<
joelteon >
nobody look at that
20:24
<
joelteon >
wrong display
20:24
<
Willox >
that resolution
20:24
<
joelteon >
wow, awward
20:24
<
joelteon >
that doesn't make any sense
20:24
<
Willox >
No worries
20:24
<
Willox >
I'll just save your avatar and leave it
20:25
<
Willox >
retina displays are rediculous
20:25
<
Willox >
What am I looking at specifically?
20:26
<
joelteon >
my layout
20:26
<
joelteon >
just because
20:26
<
vil >
I want a retina display so much
20:26
<
joelteon >
I'm showing off my e-weiner
20:26
<
vil >
mmm square corners
20:26
<
Willox >
I have nothing to show you
20:26
<
vil >
I've waited so long for this
20:26
<
joelteon >
I just wish we could force the size of windows
20:26
<
joelteon >
like iterm looks weird with that gap under it
20:26
<
joelteon >
also, skype has a ridiculously large minimum size
20:26
<
joelteon >
trust skype to fuck up absolutely everything it can
20:26
<
vil >
so does Messages.app
20:27
<
vil >
yeah, ther terminal apps locking to cols/rows has never made sense to me
20:27
<
Willox >
I can show you
20:27
<
vil >
just center the actual view in the window, wouldn't even be able to tell
20:27
<
joelteon >
yeah it don't make sense
20:27
<
joelteon >
that's kinda cool
20:27
<
vil >
sublime is pretty
20:27
<
Willox >
Oh god auto indentation broke all my befunge code
20:27
<
joelteon >
yeah, it's not bad
20:28
<
joelteon >
I can't wait until they have retina large displays
20:28
<
joelteon >
I like my laptop but it's pretty small for a tiling WM
20:28
<
Willox >
It's not really made for befunge I guess
20:28
<
Willox >
I can't wait until large resolution monitors don't cost 8x as much as 1080p monitors
20:29
<
Nuck >
Ah, doing Obj. C?
20:30
<
joelteon >
probably not
20:30
<
Willox >
I am also jealous of pretty mac screen sharing apps
20:31
<
Willox >
What I use to capture makes a really noisy bing and has an intrusive progress bar
20:31
<
joelteon >
that is a swaggy theme
20:31
<
joelteon >
I just have the default one with smaller text
20:31
<
Nuck >
Willox: haha cloudapp has a pretty loud ding
20:31
<
joelteon >
puu.sh has a nice ding noise
20:31
<
joelteon >
also it actually captures screenshots
20:31
<
joelteon >
which cloudapp doesn't
20:31
<
Willox >
I used to use puu.sh
20:31
<
Willox >
But puu.sh servers go down daily
20:32
<
joelteon >
I have never had puu.sh fail to upload an image
20:32
<
Nuck >
I use pomf.se because it's just one button to upload
20:32
<
Willox >
I have many times :(
20:32
<
Willox >
ctrl+shift+4 brings a selection up for me
20:32
<
Willox >
I select the area to capture and bam
20:32
<
joelteon >
and I've uploaded 290 files
20:32
<
joelteon >
yeah that's what OSX does by default
20:32
<
Nuck >
Cmd+Shift+4 yeah
20:33
<
Nuck >
for Linux, it's scrot -s
20:33
<
Willox >
I want my powersupply now ;(
20:33
<
vil >
building a replacement for everything we're currently discussing, actually
20:33
<
Willox >
to make my things prettier than yours'
20:33
<
joelteon >
scrot is such a gross name
20:33
<
Nuck >
It really is
20:33
<
Nuck >
I always think of scrotums
20:33
<
vil >
CloudApp/Droplr except you provide the server
20:33
<
Nuck >
Which then inevitably gives me an erection
20:34
<
Willox >
vil, I thought about that
20:34
<
joelteon >
scrotwm too
20:34
<
Willox >
I then spent 20 minutes installing different software until something already did it
20:34
<
Nuck >
vil: ha I was actually planning to build a unixy tool for that
20:34
<
Willox >
Not very well, though
20:34
<
Nuck >
Basically a daemon that you aim at a folder and then it monitors it for files
20:34
<
Willox >
It lets me free form upload
20:34
<
Nuck >
And when a file appears, it uploads it and (optionally) deletes it
20:34
<
vil >
yeah, a cli tool would be neat
20:34
<
vil >
maybe I'll bundle one at some point
20:35
<
vil >
I've got about a hundred ideas for various features
20:35
<
Nuck >
It's theoretically simple, I'm reading up on libuv as an easy way to handle the monitoring and network stuff. Mostly cause I wanna learn libuv
20:35
<
Willox >
It'd be neat for that kind of software to do different actions with different file extensions
20:36
<
vil >
trying to pare them down to a manageable first release
20:36
<
vil >
Willox: that was part of the original version
20:36
<
Willox >
Or just directories
20:36
<
vil >
I worked on this a couple years ago under a different name
20:36
<
Nuck >
Right now I've got far too many projects
20:36
<
vil >
it actually supports defining multiple destinations
20:36
<
vil >
and the original idea was to tie certain types to certain destinations
20:37
<
Willox >
Is this the kind of thing that'd give you a URL to what it uploads?
20:37
<
Nuck >
I've got EmoteCloud, I've got my personal site tumblog thing, I've got the photo manager idea, I've got tons and tons of ideas
20:37
<
Willox >
That's all my domain does :v
20:37
<
Nuck >
And within EmoteCloud I've got libdeviantart
20:37
<
vil >
but I'm building the whole thing around a plugin interface, so I can literally just drop in new features as I go
20:37
<
Nuck >
Within my photo manager I've got a tag-based database, as well as learning Cocoa and Qt/GTK
20:38
<
Willox >
I thought you were putting dA behind you
20:38
<
Nuck >
As soon as I finish my final projects
20:38
<
Nuck >
libdeviantart and EmoteCloud are my "last hurrah" besides the final releases of my other stuff
20:39
<
joelteon >
libdeviantart
20:39
<
Nuck >
joelteon: What?
20:39
<
Nuck >
It's just a simple wrapper around deviantART's APIs and screen scrapin' and shit
20:40
<
joelteon >
deviantART is such a joke
20:40
<
Nuck >
very much so.
20:40
<
Nuck >
They traded all their loyal paying customers for a bunch of random sonic fan artists
20:41
<
joelteon >
well they're fairly successful still
20:41
<
Willox >
I do not like deviant art users ;)
20:41
* joelteon
deviant art user
20:41
<
Nuck >
Willox: Well do you like joelteon and I? ;D
20:41
<
Nuck >
Then congrats, you like two of 'em
20:41
<
Willox >
certainly not
20:41
<
Willox >
as deviant art users
20:41
<
Willox >
I love you as irc buddies though
20:41
<
vil >
I use it, but I'm hardly attached
20:41
<
joelteon >
I got my start at dA
20:41
<
joelteon >
with development
20:42
<
Willox >
don't make me start to judge you
20:42
<
joelteon >
look at me now
20:42
<
Willox >
This is me
20:42
<
Nuck >
dA is where I mastered JS and PHP, where I started using Ruby and C, and it was where I was when I realized I sucked at design
20:42
<
Willox >
(I just searched Willox)
20:42
<
Nuck >
There's a great game on dA, where you search "______ the hedgehog" with your name
20:43
<
Nuck >
And see what comes up
20:43
<
Willox >
this is obviously me and my art
20:43
<
Nuck >
"neckles nuck nci
20:43
<
Willox >
"gotta go fast"
20:44
<
vil >
mine is almost exclusively ponies
20:44
<
Willox >
"William the hedgehog"
20:44
<
joelteon >
no offense
20:44
<
Willox >
"since they were both 5"
20:44
<
Nuck >
vil: When you search for the hedgehog?
20:44
<
Willox >
means whoever made that is 5
20:44
<
vil >
no, my deviantart
20:44
<
vil >
ha, no results
20:45
<
joelteon >
how do you restrict a google search to domain?
20:45
<
Willox >
Gotta admit, that's a better drawing than I could do
20:45
<
Willox >
joelteon, site:url.tld search terms
20:46
<
Willox >
This person loves my name
20:46
<
Willox >
They can't stop drawing me
20:46
<
joelteon >
if I search my name on deviantart I get misspelled jolteon
20:46
<
joelteon >
heh, I just asked if my lambdabot quotes could be re-attributed
20:46
<
joelteon >
apparently yes
20:46
<
alexgordon >
wtf is going on in here
20:46
<
Willox >
They get WORSE
20:46
<
joelteon >
alexgordon the hedgehog
20:46
<
Willox >
they got me to go on deviant art
20:46
<
vil >
alexgordon: run
20:47
<
Willox >
I see what you are trying to do!
20:47
<
Nuck >
Can we make that the official portrait of alexgordon?
20:47
<
alexgordon >
I'm a rebel
20:47
<
joelteon >
...............................
20:47
<
alexgordon >
bitches love rebels
20:48
<
alexgordon >
-find rebel
20:48
<
purr >
alexgordon: Could not find `rebel`.
20:48
<
alexgordon >
dammit
20:48
<
Willox >
"I drew a lot of my classmates as hedgehogs"
20:48
<
Willox >
what a good friend
20:48
<
vil >
lol @ "do not steal work"
20:48
<
Nuck >
The pentagram, the snakebite piercing, the north face, the torn jeans
20:48
<
vil >
ok, if you insist
20:48
<
Nuck >
God it's like the 90's emo kids
20:48
<
joelteon >
I can't draw
20:48
<
joelteon >
and I don't want to try
20:48
<
alexgordon >
no copyright intended
20:48
<
joelteon >
on the scale of
20:49
<
joelteon >
shitty drawing -> bad drawing -> uncanny valley -> good drawing
20:49
<
joelteon >
i'm stuck deep in uncanny valley
20:49
<
vil >
I like drawing, but I'm meh at it at best
20:49
<
Nuck >
(that's my account from when I was 12)
20:49
<
Willox >
I have a deviant art account
20:49
<
Willox >
5 years of inactiveness
20:49
<
joelteon >
aughters.deviantart.com
20:49
<
joelteon >
that's me
20:50
<
Willox >
inactiveness for a good reason!
20:50
<
vil >
vilhalmer.deviantart.com
20:50
<
Nuck >
nuckchorris0.deviantart.com
20:50
<
Willox >
nice plant, vil
20:50
<
Nuck >
That a euphemism, Willox?
20:50
<
Willox >
I don't know
20:50
<
vil >
Willox: my avatar everywhere!
20:50
<
Nuck >
God mega.co.nz is fucking awesome
20:51
<
vil >
it's an inside joke from Twitter, sorta
20:51
<
Willox >
Your name has made me kind of sad
20:51
<
Willox >
nuckchorris
20:51
<
vil >
I need a new avatar, but I haven't decided what
20:51
<
joelteon >
Nuck, do you have any idea how to get deviations out of storage?
20:52
<
alexgordon >
"Well, this last Wednesday - the 11th - was my birthday! And some of you probably know what that means... "
20:52
<
alexgordon >
enlighten us.
20:52
<
joelteon >
ouch my hair sucked back in the day
20:52
<
joelteon >
goodness
20:52
<
vil >
my hair still does
20:52
<
joelteon >
just cut it all off
20:52
<
alexgordon >
my hair is AWESOME
20:52
<
joelteon >
that's the solution
20:53
<
vil >
I tried to do like a part on the side
20:53
<
Willox >
My hair is really thick :(
20:53
<
alexgordon >
-find hair
20:53
<
purr >
alexgordon: Found: a sephr and haircut
20:53
<
vil >
but it will only go one direction and I got tired of it
20:53
<
alexgordon >
-haircut
20:53
<
alexgordon >
-a sephr
20:53
<
purr >
alexgordon: a pointy-haired boss
20:53
<
joelteon >
found a sephr?
20:54
<
Nuck >
joelteon: Oooooh that's tricky I don't remember anymore. It used to be easier
20:54
<
joelteon >
turns out dA's interface sucks
20:54
<
joelteon >
oh of course
20:54
<
joelteon >
go to Submit to delete deviations
20:54
<
Nuck >
It's an old legacy page too
20:55
<
joelteon >
the fuck?
20:55
<
Nuck >
I'm trying to build soemthing better than dA but no DB seems to be okay with my stuff
20:55
<
joelteon >
how do you delete them?
20:55
<
joelteon >
is there a delete button?
20:55
<
Nuck >
joelteon: Go on the page
20:55
<
Nuck >
Click delete
20:55
<
joelteon >
there's not even a delete button
20:56
<
joelteon >
are you kidding
20:56
<
joelteon >
there's 26 deviations in here
20:56
<
Nuck >
It's in the right sidebar
20:56
<
joelteon >
do i really have delete each of them
20:56
<
joelteon >
ok that's it I quit
20:56
<
Nuck >
Somebody teach me ZeroMQ
20:56
<
Nuck >
or MQ architecture
20:57
<
Nuck >
Or bus architecture
20:57
<
Nuck >
Hell, teach me how to architect network things in a sane manner
20:59
<
Nuck >
I'm good in single-process architecture, but I can't grok the stuff when you have units that need to interconnect. My first thought is immediately "have them talk" but that's a poor system
20:59
<
Nuck >
So I need to learn MQ and bus and everything. So I can IPC and shit
21:01
<
Willox >
f.lux is back
21:01
<
Willox >
and my screen is tanned again
21:03
<
devyn >
wow, huge backlog
21:03
<
vil >
devyn: probably not much of interest, mostly just us discussing configs
21:03
<
Willox >
how are you devyn
21:04
<
Willox >
that's wonderful to hear
21:04
<
devyn >
only just 'okay' because I rewrote fmt_bbbout_write.c almost completely without much gain in performance :/
21:05
<
Nuck >
at least a gain in readability I hope
21:05
<
Willox >
Is that a no?
21:06
<
devyn >
it's a bit more complex, so it's not going to be any more readable
21:06
<
Nuck >
Oh right, C isn't really readable
21:06
<
Nuck >
It's been a while, I'm spoiled by Ruby
21:07
<
Nuck >
I'm also naked.
21:07
<
purr >
Let it be known that vil hearts C.
21:07
<
devyn >
it's not horrible but it
*is* uncommented
21:07
<
Willox >
I've never been able to try ruby
21:07
<
Willox >
but I would like to
21:07
<
devyn >
I'd throw some comments in at some point but at the moment it's just me and I can read it just fine
21:10
<
Nuck >
I love C with all my heart
21:10
<
Nuck >
But it just isn't readable. I've had to resort to cdecl a few times
21:10
<
Nuck >
I'm reading code related to OpenGL
21:10
<
Nuck >
So that might be part of it
21:10
<
Willox >
cdecl is amazing
21:11
<
vil >
no, it's not readable at all
21:11
<
Nuck >
Pointer to pointer to pointer to array of pointers to arrays of penises
21:11
<
vil >
but I LOVE the power
21:11
<
vil >
oh god opengl
21:11
<
Willox >
"declare x as const pointer to pointer to const pointer to const pointer to pointer to const pointer to const pointer to pointer to char"
21:11
<
Nuck >
Oh man it's intoxicating, vil
21:11
<
Nuck >
Willox: buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo buffalo
21:11
<
vil >
I have more fun programming in C than any higher-level language
21:11
<
Nuck >
It's funny. I went from C to Ruby, from being intoxicated by power to being intoxicated by beauty
21:12
<
Willox >
Ruby code looks so nice :(
21:12
<
Nuck >
And then I wrote Ruby that looks like C :D
21:12
<
Nuck >
I wrote essentially a state machine in Ruby
21:12
<
Nuck >
Which is generally not very pretty
21:13
<
devyn >
Ruby is the first real language I learned, so my Ruby looks like Ruby
21:13
<
Nuck >
But, like with emails, it's really the best way
*to* parse it
21:13
<
Nuck >
regexes just won't suffice
21:13
<
Willox >
emails as in addresses?
21:13
<
Willox >
I actually thought you meant an the contents of an email for some reason
21:13
<
devyn >
lol contents of an email with regexen
21:14
<
Willox >
email addresses are rediculously un-limited
21:14
<
Nuck >
Don't get mad at purr, she means well.
21:14
<
purr >
Nuck: ... purr,
*he* means
21:14
<
Nuck >
Oh shut the fuck up purr and get your genitals sorted out
21:14
<
Nuck >
purr.genitals.sort()
21:14
<
Willox >
poor purr :(
21:15
<
Nuck >
I want to get a really complex email just to piss people off
21:15
<
devyn >
oh my god that makes me want to include a gender variable
21:15
<
Nuck >
devyn: Slip in a commit, elliott might not notice
21:15
<
devyn >
so I can just >> this.gender = 'female' or >> this.gender = 'male'
21:15
<
Willox >
" @"@localhost
21:16
<
Nuck >
I'd have it be like "yes it%is@valid"@plejeck.com
21:16
<
vil >
right, no more Google+
21:16
<
vil >
does that mean I have Google-?
21:16
<
devyn >
no more Google+?
21:16
<
Willox >
Nuck, just use an ipv6 address for the host
21:16
<
Nuck >
I have Google+ because hangouts are the best video chat
21:16
<
Willox >
user@[IPv6:2001:db8:1ff::a0b:dbd0]
21:16
<
Nuck >
Willox: hahaha yes
21:16
<
Willox >
(from wikipedia)
21:16
<
vil >
devyn: reolled back my account
21:17
yorick_ has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
21:17
<
vil >
I never use it, so it was just another privacy thing to have dangling
21:17
<
Nuck >
"yes it%is@valid"@[IPv6:2001:db8:1ff::a0b:dbd0]
21:17
* devyn
says “Privacy? What privacy?”
21:17
<
vil >
I'm trying to eliminate my real name from stuff, and they wouldn't let me
21:17
<
vil >
would've happily let it stay
21:18
<
vil >
doing a general Internet scrubbing
21:18
<
devyn >
the most private it gets for me is incognito mode
21:18
<
vil >
deleting unused accounts and such
21:18
<
devyn >
everything else is public
21:18
<
Nuck >
Oh shit nigga
21:18
<
Willox >
Nuck, PHP claims thatt is an invalid email :(
21:18
<
Nuck >
is vil going off the grid
21:18
<
Willox >
what a shock
21:18
<
Nuck >
he droppin' out
21:18
<
vil >
Nuck: don't worry, I'm not pulling a _why
21:18
<
Nuck >
Willox: It should be valid, maybe the % needs escaping or something?
21:19
<
Nuck >
vil: Just pullin' a lol-im-a-libertarian-and-u-cant-find-me-neener-neener-oh-shit-to-the-bunker?
21:19
<
Nuck >
(I think I just described the life of a prepper quite well)
21:19
<
devyn >
vil'a doin' a _why; vil gun'a come back an' post crazy printer output
21:19
<
Nuck >
devyn: I liked the printer output
21:19
<
Nuck >
That was beautiful
21:19
<
vil >
it was quite good
21:19
<
Nuck >
Well-written odd little book
21:20
<
Nuck >
An autobiography of perfect _why
21:20
<
devyn >
I liked hearing why he did it and what he was thinking the entire time
21:20
<
Nuck >
Seriously, it suits him so perfectly
21:20
<
devyn >
I'll die happier having heard that
21:20
<
Nuck >
This provided the perfect exact closure
21:21
<
devyn >
I wonder if he'll actually come back to OSS development
21:21
<
devyn >
or whether he just wants to make art
21:22
<
devyn >
the two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive; he could restrict himself to
*only* code that is meant as art
21:22
<
vil >
he'll be back eventually
21:22
<
vil >
you could tell he had fun with that
21:22
<
devyn >
and stop trying to make things that are useful and then get depended upon and then superceded because he kind of made them slow
21:23
<
vil >
I will admit, I find the concept of nobody knowing who I really am very interesting
21:23
<
vil >
but it's not feasible
21:23
<
vil >
especially if I'm going to run a business
21:23
<
vil >
I'm just trying to curate what's available about me
21:24
<
Nuck >
I knew a guy who managed that for a long time
21:25
<
Nuck >
I was one of his confidants, who knew his real name, age, and identity
21:25
<
Nuck >
To everyone else he was Mavyrk, a ?? year old man or woman who lived somewhere in the vicinity of Michigan
21:26
<
vil >
I see it's dead
21:26
<
vil >
last tweet dec '11
21:26
<
Nuck >
He disappeared from the internet
21:27
<
Nuck >
I'll miss 'im
21:27
<
Nuck >
He was a great writer and a good programmer
21:27
<
Nuck >
And more than that, he was a thinker.
21:27
<
Nuck >
I still stumble being unable to brainstorm with him ;_;
21:32
<
Willox >
Nuck, I think that Arch is going to cause so much pain to me
21:33
<
Willox >
gon' be fun
21:34
<
joelteon >
Arch is fun
21:34
<
joelteon >
it's not a great server/desktop
21:34
<
joelteon >
but it's fun
21:34
<
Willox >
I don't think I'd use it for a server
21:39
<
joelteon >
:set relativenumber is actually really handy
21:39
<
joelteon >
you can see line number in the statusline
21:39
<
Nuck >
Oh I think it's a great desktop, joelteon
21:39
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joelteon >
and with relativenumber you can see how far multiline commands should go
21:40
<
Nuck >
And yes I have :set relativenumber toggled with Ctrl+R in normal mode
21:40
<
Willox >
I've never even heard of relative line numbers untilt oday
21:40
<
Willox >
until today*
21:40
<
joelteon >
yeah me neither
21:40
<
joelteon >
but it's good
21:40
<
joelteon >
funny story
21:41
<
Willox >
Exists for sublime though :)
21:41
<
joelteon >
sublime has vi mode?
21:41
<
Nuck >
IT's just kinda... shitty
21:41
<
joelteon >
how surprising
21:41
<
Nuck >
Relative numbering is very useful though
21:42
<
Nuck >
I find I spend more time inrelative than in normal
21:42
<
Nuck >
I mean, how often do you
*actually* need to refer to line numbers?
21:42
<
Willox >
The relative lines look ugly as hell
21:42
<
Nuck >
you get used to 'em
21:43
<
Willox >
They use the wrong font
21:43
<
Willox >
Don't align properly etc
21:43
<
Willox >
This is the normal font for my line numbers
21:43
<
Willox >
You can see quite a difference
21:44
<
Nuck >
Well they look better in vim
21:44
<
Nuck >
You should join the vim masterrace~
21:44
<
Willox >
I imagine they do
21:44
<
Willox >
Nuck, maybe once I get my powersupply
21:44
<
Willox >
But I did pay for sublime
21:44
<
Willox >
and I love it
21:44
<
Nuck >
Oh wow somebody who actually paid :o
21:44
<
Nuck >
Thanks for supporting the product I used for months without ever paying~
21:45
<
Willox >
I'll see how well it works in Arch
21:46
<
Willox >
If it doesn't work better tham Vim I may as well stick with it
21:48
<
Nuck >
It works exactly the same on Linux as on Windows
21:48
<
Nuck >
Like, identically
21:48
<
Willox >
Depending on how good Vim's different method of control is then
21:54
<
Willox >
I always thought vim looked ugly
21:54
<
Willox >
Apparently I underestimated it
21:56
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joelteon >
so let me get this right
21:56
<
joelteon >
if I source my vimrc multiple times, and it has autocmds defined
21:56
<
joelteon >
they'll get redefined each time?
21:56
<
joelteon >
not redefined, actually
21:57
<
joelteon >
I mean, duplicated
21:57
<
micahjohnston >
GOD DAMNIT
21:57
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micahjohnston >
POSTAL SERVICE RESCHEDULED TO JULY
21:57
<
Willox >
Next week?
21:58
<
Willox >
the month after
21:58
<
Willox >
(I'm very bad with my months)
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Nuck >
micahjohnston: What happen
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micahjohnston >
Nuck: sickness apparently
22:01
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micahjohnston >
Willox: :p
22:01
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Willox >
I need to just uninstall flux
22:01
<
Willox >
it's coming back hourly
22:02
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Nuck >
You don't like it?
22:02
<
Willox >
it's just so orange
22:02
<
Willox >
I could configure it
22:02
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Willox >
but I'd rather not have it
22:02
<
Willox >
That was the quickest uninstall wizard e-
22:02
<
Willox >
it's still orange
22:04
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joelteon >
fuck being sick
22:17
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joelteon >
how do you cd into a directory called -?
22:21
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Willox >
Hey Nuck, getting that PSU for friday
22:22
<
Nuck >
I really want to learn Go
22:22
<
Nuck >
It seems incredibly interesting
22:22
<
Willox >
Go sounds cool
22:22
<
Willox >
But I don't see what's good about it compared to other languages
22:22
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Willox >
It uses a nice charset though
22:22
<
Nuck >
Who doesn't use UTF-8 nowadays?
22:23
<
Willox >
Languages by default often dont :)
22:23
<
Willox >
Not like Go appears to, at least
22:23
<
Willox >
Looking at its hello world
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Nuck >
Ruby is default UTF-8
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vil >
micahjohnston: ooh nooo!
22:26
<
Willox >
I've never tried Ruby
22:26
<
Willox >
I didn't know that, Nuck
22:26
<
Nuck >
I want to write a multi-user bittorrent daemon
22:26
<
Nuck >
Willox: It's a recent change. Just happened in 2.0
22:26
<
micahjohnston >
yeah it seems Go only has little improvements
22:26
<
micahjohnston >
which is good because they add up to happiness
22:26
<
Nuck >
Go interests me as an alternative to C++ though
22:26
<
Willox >
It has a nice name
22:27
<
Nuck >
Because it's compiled and not a piece of shit
22:27
<
micahjohnston >
Willox: ironically ungoogleable :P
22:27
<
alexgordon >
awww yeah graph theory and finance
22:27
<
micahjohnston >
Nuck: haha yeah
22:27
<
Willox >
"Go Language" works
22:27
<
Nuck >
But seriously, have you guys seen the proliferation of seedboxes?
22:27
<
Nuck >
They're just servers that run hundreds of bittorrent daemons, and it's entirely pointless - Why use multiple daemons when you could use one?
22:28
<
Nuck >
But I cannot into C++ (yet) so I can't make a multiuser bittorrent client
22:28
<
Nuck >
Well, I could in C, but I'm not a masochist
22:30
<
micahjohnston >
Willox: yeah it's just silly because google made it
22:31
<
micahjohnston >
i'll go shoot myself now
22:31
<
micahjohnston >
anyway
22:31
<
Willox >
I get it :D
22:31
<
Willox >
It's funny now
22:31
<
micahjohnston >
Nuck: my friend rents a seedbox
22:31
<
micahjohnston >
Willox: yay
22:31
<
Willox >
Nuck, getting a CM500M
22:31
<
Willox >
CX500M even
22:31
<
micahjohnston >
vil: have you listened to Baths? you'd love him
22:31
<
Willox >
I'm ashamed to own so many corsair products
22:32
<
vil >
micahjohnston: no I haven't, to Grooveshark!
22:32
<
micahjohnston >
was gonna see him open for postal service today
22:32
<
Willox >
micahjohnston, shame they had to delay that on the day it's meant to happen
22:32
<
micahjohnston >
yeah :(
22:32
<
micahjohnston >
I was super excited
22:33
<
micahjohnston >
vil: is that a picture of dave grohl?
22:33
<
micahjohnston >
lol
22:33
<
Willox >
I've only been to one concert before
22:33
<
micahjohnston >
Willox: oh, which one?
22:33
<
vil >
micahjohnston: I have no idea, duckinator just retweeted it
22:33
<
Nuck >
ooooh baths opening for postal service
22:34
<
Nuck >
That sounds like an epic conert
22:34
<
Willox >
I went to see Biffy Clyro not so long ago
22:34
<
micahjohnston >
Nuck: yeah :D
22:34
<
elliottcable >
Hi, all.
22:34
<
micahjohnston >
I mean :(
22:34
<
elliottcable >
Woah, activity
22:34
<
Nuck >
Hi elliottcable
22:34
<
vil >
hi elliottcable
22:34
<
purr >
elliottcable: hi!
22:34
<
elliottcable >
-clouds
22:34
<
purr >
elliottcable: is stuck up in the clouds; hilight 'em if you want 'em.
22:34
<
Nuck >
it's off to work we go
22:34
<
micahjohnston >
Willox: cool, haven't heard of them but I will give them a listen
22:34
<
elliottcable >
(it's been AGES since I did this)
22:34
<
micahjohnston >
where do you live?
22:34
<
elliottcable >
who thef uck is joelteon
22:34
<
joelteon >
its otters
22:34
<
micahjohnston >
god irccloud is being so fucking slow
22:34
<
joelteon >
i evolved
22:35
<
Nuck >
eevee is not otter
22:35
<
micahjohnston >
joelteon: if it's a picture of you then you look a lot like dave grohl
22:35
<
vil >
tag 'im, so he can see it while he's up there
22:35
<
joelteon >
that's not me
22:35
<
joelteon >
but i do look l ike dave grohl
22:35
<
joelteon >
no, I don't
22:35
<
vil >
joelteon: "but i do look l ike dave grohl" wat.
22:36
<
joelteon >
not l ike
22:36
<
elliottcable >
54 ſ 747 13 +alexgordon: that's why Django exists for
22:36
<
elliottcable >
54 ſ 747 19 +alexgordon: or rails
22:36
<
elliottcable >
54 ſ 747 23 +alexgordon: or fuck, node
22:36
<
joelteon >
that's why django exists for
22:36
<
vil >
joelteon: I just copied it
22:36
<
joelteon >
wise words
22:36
<
elliottcable >
54 ſ 747 73 otters: I forked markdown and patched the toHtml method to highlight the contents of pre tags
22:36
<
joelteon >
I misspelled it
22:36
<
elliottcable >
54 ſ 747 91 otters: come at me
22:36
<
elliottcable >
(Context: I have become micahjohnston, and now copy-paste lines, because IRC doesn't have a “retweet” button.)
22:36
* alexgordon
anticipates imminent bollocking
22:37
<
joelteon >
b-b-bollocks
22:37
<
Willox >
Yeah micahjohnston, it's pretty good music
22:37
<
elliottcable >
I was about to type “so, srsly, otters is back?” ... then tried to auto-complete his name, and was about to type “oh, otters left” ... right as I scrolled to
22:37
<
elliottcable >
54 ſ 757 65 - otters > joelteon
22:37
<
elliottcable >
well, hi, used-to-be-otters.
22:37
<
Willox >
but whenever I listen to it it reminds me of a crazy bus journey to waterloo I took after the concert
22:37
<
joelteon >
hi elliottcable
22:37
<
elliottcable >
(joel-cum-otters?)
22:38
<
Nuck >
joel came in otters?
22:38
<
elliottcable >
re: domain hacks,
22:38
<
elliottcable >
can't beat mine.
22:38
<
micahjohnston >
(Context: I have become micahjohnston, and now copy-paste lines, because IRC doesn't have a “retweet” button.)
22:38
<
Nuck >
elliottcable: I could if Cook Islands sold on .ck
22:38
<
joelteon >
that's nice
22:38
<
elliottcable >
Willox ⑊ If you don't own willo.xxx within the week, I will lose all respect for you.
22:38
<
Nuck >
I'd be nu.ck
22:38
<
micahjohnston >
the silly thing is that I had the automatic response to copypaste that, unironically
22:38
<
micahjohnston >
and also the silly thing is that irccloud messed up the copypasting
22:38
<
Willox >
elliottcable, I need to be in the porn industry for that!
22:38
<
joelteon >
how about
22:38
<
elliottcable >
54 ſ 785 99 vil: I'm an investment banker, I run a college, and I do yoga
22:38
<
joelteon >
joelt.io/n
22:39
<
elliottcable >
Who knew vil was such a Renaissance man!?
22:39
<
Nuck >
nu.ck beats you all
22:39
<
elliottcable >
Willox ⑊ Not only is your-full-name.me taken, but we've had somebody with your full name in here *before*. Briefly.
22:39
<
Nuck >
Srsly, somebody pay the cook islands to give it to me
22:39
<
alexgordon >
[23:36:15] <+elliottcable> 54 ſ 747 13 +alexgordon: that's why Django exists for
22:39
<
Nuck >
elliottcable: What name?
22:39
<
elliottcable >
William Wallace
22:40
<
elliottcable >
brb poo'in ... still -clouds
22:40
<
Nuck >
+alexgordon [23:36:15] <+elliottcable> 54 ſ 747 13 +alexgordon: that's why Django exists for
22:40
<
Nuck >
Infinite retweeting
22:40
<
joelteon >
15:40:09 Nuck | +alexgordon [23:36:15] <+elliottcable> 54 ſ 747 13 +alexgordon: that's why Django exists for
22:40
<
micahjohnston >
closing and reopening irccloud seemed to do the trick
22:40
<
micahjohnston >
4:40 PM <joelteon> 15:40:09 Nuck | +alexgordon [23:36:15] <+elliottcable> 54 ſ 747 13 +alexgordon: that's why Django exists for
22:40
<
alexgordon >
this has turned into reddit
22:41
<
Nuck >
alexgordon: *Twitter
22:41
<
micahjohnston >
4:40 PM <micahjohnston> 4:40 PM <joelteon> 15:40:09 Nuck | +alexgordon [23:36:15] <+elliottcable> 54 ſ 747 13 +alexgordon: that's why Django exists for
22:41
<
micahjohnston >
4:41 PM <micahjohnston> 4:40 PM <micahjohnston> 4:40 PM <joelteon> 15:40:09 Nuck | +alexgordon [23:36:15] <+elliottcable> 54 ſ 747 13 +alexgordon: that's why Django exists for
22:41
<
micahjohnston >
4:41 PM <micahjohnston> 4:41 PM <micahjohnston> 4:40 PM <micahjohnston> 4:40 PM <joelteon> 15:40:09 Nuck | +alexgordon [23:36:15] <+elliottcable> 54 ſ 747 13 +alexgordon: that's why Django exists for
22:41
<
micahjohnston >
now it's 4chan
22:41
<
alexgordon >
iajwodjaiwd
22:41
<
alexgordon >
-> #Paws.Nucleus
22:41
<
joelteon >
weechat doesn't have a copy mode
22:41
<
joelteon >
I wish it did
22:41
<
Nuck >
joelteon: It's called selecting text in your terminal
22:42
<
Willox >
I can't even copy with HexChat
22:42
<
joelteon >
good idea
22:42
<
Nuck >
That's what you get for using tmux fgt
22:42
<
joelteon >
god forbid
22:42
<
Nuck >
Tiling WM for people who can't Tiling WM
22:42
<
joelteon >
I'm using a tiling WM you mongoloid
22:42
<
joelteon >
I don't want to have two separate terminal windows
22:43
<
joelteon >
anyway, tmux's copy mode is perfectly capable of selecting things inside panes
22:43
<
joelteon >
maybe I'll open a feature request
22:43
<
alexgordon >
doesn't terminal already support splits?
22:43
<
joelteon >
iterm does, yeah
22:43
<
alexgordon >
but normal terminal
22:43
<
joelteon >
yeah it does too
22:43
<
joelteon >
I don't use it
22:43
<
joelteon >
iterm is the one I'm using right now
22:44
<
joelteon >
anyway, that still doesn't address the issue of weechat wrapping lines
22:44
<
Willox >
Nuck, on friday you will witness the pain of me installing Arch
22:45
<
Nuck >
Follow the Beginner's Guide
22:45
<
Nuck >
Don't skip a line
22:45
<
Nuck >
And you'll do fine
22:45
<
Willox >
I've already been looking at that
22:45
<
alexgordon >
joelteon: doesn't it? if you use a native split then your selection will be confined to that split...
22:45
<
Nuck >
I did a dry run in a VM for my first time
22:45
<
vil >
hmmm, I like that channel list
22:45
<
Willox >
Nuck, using an empty HDD
22:45
<
micahjohnston >
Nuck: obsidian is so good
22:45
<
Willox >
Shouldn't matter for me
22:46
<
Willox >
nothing to lose
22:46
<
Nuck >
Willox: Well yeah but I wanted to get practice
22:46
<
Nuck >
micahjohnston: Obsidian?
22:46
<
micahjohnston >
Nuck: new Baths album
22:46
<
joelteon >
alexgordon: weechat wraps lines to the limits of its window
22:46
<
Nuck >
Haven't heard it yet
22:46
<
vil >
Nuck: tmux is awesome don't even
22:46
<
Nuck >
I'm still catching up with music
22:46
<
micahjohnston >
kind of purity ring-esque
22:46
<
micahjohnston >
really dark
22:46
<
Nuck >
Going synthpoppier?
22:46
<
micahjohnston >
yeah kind of
22:46
<
alexgordon >
synthpooper?
22:46
<
micahjohnston >
haven't listened to cerulean much yet actually
22:47
<
Nuck >
I've fallen in love with Snythpop due to CHVRCHES and Purity Ring
22:47
<
Nuck >
micahjohnston: I'm trying to relabel my entire music library right now, I can't add more to my list of things-which-need-labelling
22:47
<
micahjohnston >
heh
22:47
<
Nuck >
I've still got 6500+ to go
22:47
<
micahjohnston >
synthpop is such a vast thing
22:47
<
micahjohnston >
includes like
22:47
<
micahjohnston >
depeche mode and postal service and owl city and purity ring
22:48
<
Nuck >
Purity Ring labels their stuff "future pop"
22:48
<
micahjohnston >
I gotta listen to chvrches
22:48
<
Nuck >
Which I think is accurate
22:48
<
micahjohnston >
oh heh that's a good label
22:48
<
Nuck >
micahjohnston: Listen to The Mother We Share
22:48
<
joelteon >
owl city used to be so good
22:48
<
micahjohnston >
oh there's an ellie goulding cover of alt-j's tessellate
22:48
<
micahjohnston >
joelteon: yeah
22:48
<
elliottcable >
back, but still -clouds
22:48
<
joelteon >
but they completely took over his style
22:48
<
elliottcable >
also, have some shit in my eye, GOD DAMNIT
22:48
<
joelteon >
poor guy ):
22:48
<
micahjohnston >
joelteon: I still a couple of songs on midsummer station, but there's no more magic really
22:48
<
joelteon >
yeah, not really
22:48
<
Nuck >
elliottcable: Stop rubbing your face in poop you fool
22:49
<
joelteon >
ahh, the curse of popularity
22:49
<
micahjohnston >
Nuck:
22:49
<
micahjohnston >
sooo nice
22:49
<
elliottcable >
haha, you guys think .io's and .er's are expensive
22:49
<
Willox >
.xxx is like
22:49
<
elliottcable >
ellio.tt costs 5,000 to buy and 3,000 a year.
22:49
<
elliottcable >
beat that.
22:49
<
micahjohnston >
haha you are a trust fund baby shut up
22:49
<
micahjohnston >
oh wait -clouds
22:49
<
Willox >
elliottcable, what a waste
22:49
<
joelteon >
suck my wiener
22:49
<
micahjohnston >
elliottcable: haha you are a trust fund baby shut up
22:50
<
micahjohnston >
elliottcable: ;p
22:50
<
joelteon >
check your name ending with tt privilege
22:50
<
joelteon >
wonder how much ma.tt costs
22:50
<
Nuck >
micahjohnston: Dude, Paramore covered Matilda
22:50
<
micahjohnston >
whoa
22:50
<
Willox >
"registrants with a foreign address are charged double"
22:51
<
Willox >
favouritism
22:51
<
elliottcable >
Nuck: “elliottcable: Stop rubbing your face in poop you fool” what.
22:51
<
joelteon >
awkwaaaard
22:52
<
Willox >
What does purr do, then?
22:52
<
joelteon >
talks sporadically
22:52
<
micahjohnston >
hayley williams is way cooler than being in paramore makes her seem
22:52
<
micahjohnston >
she's been on mewithoutyou records and stuff
22:52
<
micahjohnston >
and also when she talks she sounds like ellen degeneres
22:52
<
joelteon >
micahjohnston: props on not hating everything owl city has ever done, btw
22:52
<
micahjohnston >
joelteon: yeah i hate it when people hate on him
22:53
<
micahjohnston >
joelteon: ocean eyes is one of my favorite albums
22:53
<
joelteon >
"oh it sounds like postal service"
22:53
<
joelteon >
postal service is pretty good
22:53
<
Nuck >
I'm not fond of Owl City but that's just because autotune really gets on my nerves
22:53
<
elliottcable >
I keep forgetting that vil == spherecat
22:53
<
micahjohnston >
Nuck: this cover is really nice
22:53
<
joelteon >
Nuck, have you heard anything he made before he was popular?
22:53
<
Nuck >
Postal Service is like owl city sans autotune
22:53
<
elliottcable >
I
*still* go “I wonder whatever happened to spherecat” approximately once a quarter.
22:53
<
Willox >
To me vil is the person that says gmrn at the same time every day
22:53
<
Willox >
and never gets a response
22:53
<
Nuck >
micahjohnston: I think it's pitchy still
22:53
<
vil >
Willox: I hold out hope. :D
22:53
<
micahjohnston >
Nuck: ?
22:53
<
Willox >
I see it every day
22:54
<
micahjohnston >
joelteon: I probably love postal service more deeply than owl city but
22:54
<
Willox >
I didn't know if you were a bot or if you were trying to say good morning
22:54
<
micahjohnston >
joelteon: still love both
22:54
<
vil >
it's only been like two days since I came back :P
22:54
<
joelteon >
I haven't heard any of postal service
22:54
<
Nuck >
joelteon: Only bits and pieces
22:54
<
Willox >
(i've been here 2 days)
22:54
<
joelteon >
Hello Seattle is one of my favorite songs
22:54
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Nuck >
micahjohnston: It sounds like her voice is cracking in certain ranges
22:54
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micahjohnston >
Nuck: oh yeah kinda
22:54
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Nuck >
<3 Postal Service
22:54
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purr >
Let it be known that Nuck hearts Postal Service.
22:54
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micahjohnston >
joelteon: they only have 1 full album and a few odd singles
22:54
<
micahjohnston >
joelteon: but all of it is perfect
22:55
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joelteon >
postal service?
22:55
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micahjohnston >
yeah
22:55
<
Nuck >
micahjohnston: Some guy flamed me on Turntable for commenting on the fact that she's kinda pitchy in certain ranges. "NO SHES PERFECT"
22:55
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micahjohnston >
haha
22:55
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joelteon >
Good Time is a perfect example of how much control labels have over artist and how much of a bad thing it is
22:55
<
Nuck >
Postal Service is the lead singer from Death Cab For Cutie + Dntel
22:56
<
Nuck >
And it's just so perfect
22:56
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joelteon >
oh shit, Matt Thiessen helped write it O_O
22:56
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micahjohnston >
Nuck: for real
22:56
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micahjohnston >
joelteon: I feel like it may be less of a label control thing
22:56
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micahjohnston >
joelteon: like he's written a lot of stuff on his blog about how it's a direction he wants to try
22:57
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Nuck >
popularity gives you an obligation to be catchier
22:57
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Nuck >
Labels funnel that pressure and magnify it
22:57
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Nuck >
Smaller labels are more relaxed and generally just provide the production support while not trying to push too hard
22:57
<
Nuck >
(Like my favorite indie label, Asthmatic Kitty~)
22:58
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joelteon >
any band with the word Kitty in the title is gonna be a good one
22:58
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elliottcable >
Fuck the clouds.
22:58
<
elliottcable >
/sb end
22:58
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Nuck >
It's not a band, it's a label
22:58
<
elliottcable >
Hi, all
22:58
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micahjohnston >
hi elliottcable
22:58
<
joelteon >
anything with the word Kitty in it
22:58
<
elliottcable >
First off: I'm creating a GitHub organization for the channel.
22:58
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micahjohnston >
we've been pumping out clouds for ya
22:58
<
elliottcable >
Adding you all to it.
22:59
<
elliottcable >
channel ops (alexgordon, micah, devyn, etc) will be able to create repos, if y'all have the URGENT NEED to collaborate on something.
22:59
<
Willox >
you should add me to it - I have like 2 commits
22:59
<
elliottcable >
Second: Membership dues are now $20/year.
22:59
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Nuck >
♪ Hollywood forever cemetary
22:59
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purr >
Nuck: Song not found. ):
22:59
<
elliottcable >
Third: Membership in the #elliottcable chan-clan is now mutually exclusive with membership in OFTN.
22:59
<
Nuck >
♪ Hollywood forever cemetery
22:59
<
elliottcable >
So please depart that organization as quickly as possible.
23:00
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Nuck >
Nope, nope, and nope
23:00
<
elliottcable >
Fourth: “Second” and “third” are just jokes. I couldn't give less of a shit.
23:00
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micahjohnston >
WHEN THE PIMPS IN THE CRIB
23:00
<
micahjohnston >
DROP IT LIKE IT'S HOT
23:00
<
micahjohnston >
DROP IT LIKE IT'S HOT
23:00
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Nuck >
elliottcable: Pay my dues for me, you're rich~
23:00
<
elliottcable >
Fifth: I'm currently trying to fucking understand git's source-tree and contribution guidelines so I can submit a patch.
23:01
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elliottcable >
Sixth: You guys suck at -clouds. You're supposed to
*hilight somebody* when they're -clouds. I missed half of the conversation. ಠ_ಠ
23:01
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elliottcable >
Seventh: This juxtaposition is *fucking perfect*:
23:01
<
elliottcable >
54 ſ 950 57 Nuck: elliottcable: Stop rubbing your face in poop you fool
23:01
<
elliottcable >
54 ſ 950 71 joelteon: ahh, the curse of popularity
23:01
<
Willox >
I feel like I've entered some other dimension
23:01
<
joelteon >
you don't realize how much pressure there is for the cool kids to rub their faces in poop these days
23:02
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vil >
joelteon: wat.
23:02
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elliottcable >
joelteon: what.
23:02
<
alexgordon >
♪ synth poop
23:02
<
purr >
alexgordon: Song not found. ):
23:02
<
elliottcable >
damnit, vil beat me to it
23:02
<
alexgordon >
♪ poop
23:02
<
vil >
that one character makes a huge difference
23:02
<
alexgordon >
hahaha
23:02
<
elliottcable >
WHAT.
23:02
<
micahjohnston >
I love snoop dogg's voice
23:02
<
elliottcable >
That's the best thing that's ever happened. All the things, that's the best.
23:02
<
alexgordon >
I am dying
23:02
<
alexgordon >
I need oxygen
23:02
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micahjohnston >
was a pretty good thing
23:03
<
vil >
I didn't even know that was a feature, and now it's the best one
23:03
<
vil >
th' fuck do you type that? what's the option-combo?
23:03
<
joelteon >
-eighth<tab>
23:03
<
elliottcable >
I have it aliased to “nnote” in my irssi.
23:03
<
alexgordon >
vil: cmd-c, cmd-v
23:03
<
elliottcable >
but you can also use -song if you like.
23:03
<
elliottcable >
-song poop
23:04
<
elliottcable >
i -song is to
*search* for songs,
23:04
<
vil >
benefits of stealing elliottcable's configs
23:04
<
alexgordon >
-song mormon
23:04
<
joelteon >
i have it aliased to -eighth in my completions
23:04
<
elliottcable >
and ♪ is to say “what I'm playing right now.”
23:04
<
joelteon >
-song moron
23:04
<
alexgordon >
Mormon Tabernacle Choir OMG A RUDE WORD
23:04
<
Willox >
song music
23:04
<
vil >
♪ really long song title
23:04
<
purr >
vil: Song not found. ):
23:04
<
joelteon >
-song urethra
23:04
<
alexgordon >
jeannicolas: be offended
23:04
<
joelteon >
blink-182 are urethral connoisseurs
23:04
<
Nuck >
joelteon: wat.
23:04
<
vil >
♪ sofi needs a ladder
23:04
<
elliottcable >
alexgordon ⑊ why do you keep hilighting jeannicolas in here? He never speaks. I'm pretty sure he's dead.
23:05
<
joelteon >
♪ fossil genera
23:05
<
alexgordon >
elliottcable: nah just gree'd
23:05
<
elliottcable >
♪ Black Melt
23:05
<
elliottcable >
alexgordon ⑊ what?
23:05
<
alexgordon >
wait is joelteon gq?
23:05
<
elliottcable >
alexgordon: wat.
23:05
<
joelteon >
i'm otters
23:05
<
alexgordon >
as in gqbrielle...
23:05
<
elliottcable >
Yes. I know.
23:05
<
elliottcable >
Hence the wat.
23:05
<
alexgordon >
"aw yiss"
23:05
<
Nuck >
Nah, gqbrielle is not an otter.
23:06
<
alexgordon >
is something that gqbrielle says
23:06
<
Nuck >
Are you going to accuse me of being gq?
23:06
<
alexgordon >
aw yiss
23:06
<
joelteon >
a lot of people say aw yiss
23:06
<
Nuck >
Because I am
*so* not Gentleman's Quarterly
23:06
<
joelteon >
it's a fairly popular phrase
23:06
<
vil >
at least it wasn't me again
23:06
<
joelteon >
it's memetic
23:06
<
alexgordon >
joelteon: but in here...
23:06
<
alexgordon >
only gqbrielle
23:06
<
joelteon >
and me, now
23:07
<
elliottcable >
Willox ⑊ you, the same on GitHub?
23:07
<
joelteon >
heh, 303
23:07
<
gkatsev >
elliottcable: I think sanity is sanity
23:07
<
Willox >
What's wrong with 303 D:
23:07
<
vil >
I'm using fossil for my app, and it's awesome
23:07
<
joelteon >
they're a good band
23:08
<
vil >
fossil as in the SCM
23:08
<
micahjohnston >
xcode is so nice
23:08
<
micahjohnston >
for like iphone guis
23:09
<
joelteon >
xcode is teh best ide out there
23:09
<
micahjohnston >
just control drag from a button
23:09
<
joelteon >
i wish there was more lunch today
23:09
<
elliottcable >
micahjohnston ⑊ I thoroughly hate Xcode/Interface Builder.
23:09
<
elliottcable >
too iffy / too much cognitive overhead
23:09
<
vil >
yeah, Interface Builder is kinda cool
23:09
<
micahjohnston >
too much cognitive overhead anyway
23:09
<
vil >
too much magic for my taste
23:10
<
joelteon >
it's the best iPhone GUI editor
23:10
<
Nuck >
emacs is the best IDE
23:10
<
Willox >
I'm gonna have to use github now
23:11
<
elliottcable >
Willox ⑊ Please do.
23:11
<
elliottcable >
Fuckin' smallest private-repos plan for GitHub orgs is 25$/mo
23:11
<
Willox >
I have a couple of things up
23:11
<
elliottcable >
for
*ten repos*
23:11
<
elliottcable >
I just want one!
*wails*
23:11
<
Willox >
but I haven't contributed to other people's stuff
23:11
<
joelteon >
ok I'm gonna go play foosball for a bit
23:11
<
elliottcable >
guess purr is staying elliottcable/purr, not hashElliottcable/purr
23:11
<
elliottcable >
lol which football, joelteon?
23:12
<
Nuck >
Why not make it open?
23:12
<
joelteon >
foosball
23:12
<
Willox >
purr is a government technology
23:12
<
joelteon >
you know
23:12
<
joelteon >
the game with the players on the table
23:12
<
vil >
purr is actually sentient
23:12
<
elliottcable >
beause it's terrible code and currently has keys and shit in the source-code
23:12
<
elliottcable >
some day I might clean purr up and open him up
23:12
<
micahjohnston >
elliottcable: use bitbucket
23:12
<
Nuck >
yiffyiffyiff
23:12
<
micahjohnston >
for private
23:12
<
elliottcable >
but since he's in important public channels ...
23:12
<
joelteon >
use dotenv
23:12
<
Nuck >
No fuck bitbucket
23:12
<
elliottcable >
GOD this channel is loud now
23:13
<
micahjohnston >
Nuck: why
23:13
<
Willox >
elliottcable, my fault clearly
23:13
<
elliottcable >
what the fuck have I done, coming back
23:13
<
micahjohnston >
free private repos
23:13
<
joelteon >
yeah, get out
23:13
<
Nuck >
micahjohnston: Their UX is shit
23:13
<
elliottcable >
nah, Willox, it went from mostly-dead for several months, to loud again, because I returned from a long hiatus.
23:13
<
micahjohnston >
Nuck: it's kinda adorable i think
23:13
<
elliottcable >
also, gq stopped coming back in when I showed up. She hates me.
23:13
<
Willox >
Don't do that again
23:13
<
Willox >
This channel is already part of my life
23:13
<
elliottcable >
yeah, that tends to happen
23:13
<
Nuck >
Eventually you start wearing ##Hats
23:14
<
elliottcable >
fuckin' ##Hats
23:14
elliottcable is now known as elliottcable^
23:14
<
elliottcable^ >
QUICK HAT THYSELF
23:14
<
joelteon >
I'm not even going to try ##hats
23:14
Nuck is now known as nuck^
23:14
vil is now known as vil^
23:14
<
vil^ >
these look like dunce caps
23:14
<
joelteon >
stick it to the man
23:14
<
Willox >
but people in #node.js will get scared
23:14
<
vil^ >
stragely appropriate
23:14
<
micahjohnston >
omg i love baths
23:14
nuck^ is now known as ^n^u^c^k^
23:14
<
elliottcable^ >
Willox ⑊ DO IT
23:14
<
^n^u^c^k^ >
I HAVE OUTHATTED YOU ALL
23:14
Willox is now known as Willox^
23:14
micahjohnston is now known as micahjohnston^
23:14
vil^ is now known as ^il
23:15
elliottcable^ is now known as ^lliott^able
23:15
<
^lliott^able >
^il ⑊ well played.
23:15
Willox^ is now known as ^^^^^^
23:15
<
^il >
that's not how it works
23:15
<
^il >
oh god what's happening
23:15
^n^u^c^k^ is now known as ^uck
23:15
micahjohnston^ is now known as micahjohnston
23:15
<
joelteon >
yeah I don't want to spam the other channels
23:15
<
^lliott^able >
/join #elliottcable^
23:15
^lliott^able is now known as elliottcable^
23:15
<
^uck >
joelteon: They're used to it
23:15
<
elliottcable^ >
keepin' my hat on.
23:15
<
elliottcable^ >
anyway.
23:15
^il is now known as vil
23:15
<
elliottcable^ >
joelteon ⑊ come on join the fun.
23:15
<
^uck >
People from #elliottcable tend to do weird shit
23:16
<
elliottcable^ >
yeah, PEER PRESSURE, FIT IN FIT IN FIT IN
23:16
<
elliottcable^ >
You wouldn't be here if you weren't weird.
23:16
<
joelteon >
what is an OCR double backslash
23:16
<
^uck >
C'MON JOELTEON, SMOKE THE OVOIDS
23:16
<
joelteon >
smoke the ovaries
23:16
<
^uck >
Optical Character Recognition
23:16
<
elliottcable^ >
joelteon: wat.
23:16
<
^^^^^^ >
THANK YOU joelteon
23:16
<
^uck >
-ovoids @ joelteon
23:16
<
^^^^^^ >
I HAVE BEEN LOOKING FOR THAT CHARACTER FOR DAYS
23:16
<
elliottcable^ >
who the fuck is ^^^^^^
23:16
^^^^^^ is now known as Willox
23:17
<
^uck >
OCR DOUBLE BACKSLASH | ⑊ (U+244A)
23:17
<
elliottcable^ >
Why do none of you have that damn character!?
23:17
<
^uck >
Even
*I* have it
23:17
<
vil >
dunno what their problem is
23:17
<
^uck >
And I'm on Linux
23:17
<
elliottcable^ >
yeah they have a problem, not us
23:17
<
elliottcable^ >
we're the un-problem-havers
23:17
<
joelteon >
yeah, I know what it is
23:17
<
joelteon >
I'm just wondering why you're using it
23:17
<
elliottcable^ >
*they're* the outside-the-loop ones! not us!
23:17
<
elliottcable^ >
'cause it's pretty as all fuck?
23:17
<
joelteon >
is that solarized?
23:17
<
elliottcable^ >
you must be new here.
23:17
<
^uck >
joelteon ≀ its elliott.
23:17
<
Willox >
Chrome can't even render it
23:17
<
elliottcable^ >
I change my tab-completion character regularly.
23:17
<
Willox >
I am doomed
23:18
elliottcable^ is now known as elliottcable
23:18
<
micahjohnston >
i need to create music
23:18
<
micahjohnston >
right now
23:18
<
vil >
micahjohnston: doooo eeet
23:18
<
micahjohnston >
programming iphone games is not an immediate enough expression of myself
23:18
<
Willox >
Doesn't look too good
23:18
frogor has joined #elliottcable
23:19
<
^uck >
elliottcable ≀ You've convinced me to change mine too
23:19
<
elliottcable >
frogor!
23:19
<
elliottcable >
frogor ⑊ put on a hat.
23:19
<
elliottcable >
frogor ⑊ it's the flavour du jour.
23:20
<
joelteon >
speaking of french
23:20
<
Willox >
elliottcable☂ how are you?
23:20
<
^uck >
Willox ≀ lel
23:20
<
joelteon >
I had steak au poivre and roast vegetable terrine for lunch
23:20
<
^uck >
≀≀≀≀≀≀≀≀≀≀ is actually what my read marker is in weechat
23:20
<
joelteon >
mine is //////////////
23:20
<
elliottcable >
read marker?
23:20
<
elliottcable >
fuck weechat
23:21
<
joelteon >
you know
23:21
<
^uck >
ha, you took a similar approach, joelteon
23:21
<
elliottcable >
getta irssi bitch
23:21
<
elliottcable >
screenshot?
23:21
<
elliottcable >
and yes, joelteon, this is solarized
23:21
<
elliottcable >
I've created solarized themes for everything, everywhere
23:21
<
joelteon >
and now my read marker is ⑊
23:21
<
joelteon >
it looks a lot better
23:21
<
elliottcable >
I'm super-obsessed with a consistent desktop UI
23:21
<
elliottcable >
Solarized <3
23:21
<
joelteon >
and it looks even better in super high DPI
23:21
<
elliottcable >
<3 Solarized
23:21
<
purr >
Let it be known that elliottcable hearts Solarized.
23:21
<
^uck >
I made my own theme
23:21
<
joelteon >
I'm using dark solarized
23:21
<
elliottcable >
joelteon ⑊ you have a Retina or Pixel?
23:21
<
elliottcable >
joelteon ⑊ do you want my super-nice-hand-made Solarized irssi-theme?
23:21
<
elliottcable >
or, wait, you said you use weechat. my bad.
23:22
<
Willox >
elliottcable ->
23:22
<
Willox >
That's the best
23:22
<
elliottcable >
but 4srs. solarized. <3<3<3<3
23:22
<
elliottcable >
Willox ⑊ what are you, coffeescript?
23:22
<
Willox >
Must change
23:22
<
elliottcable >
fuck arrows, it's unsemantic
23:22
<
elliottcable >
the point is a *seperator*, something like that
23:22
<
Willox >
elliottcable~ sup
23:22
<
elliottcable >
I've always been tempted to make mine ^O
23:22
<
joelteon >
Ok solarized light looks pretty nice
23:22
<
elliottcable >
and then some sort of hack to put a colour-code at the start of the line
23:22
<
elliottcable >
Willox Pretty?
23:22
<
^uck >
Actually it'd be cool to do a prefix and suffix for tabcompletions that uses the chars from powerline
23:22
<
Willox >
HexChat can't do it!
23:23
<
elliottcable >
How does powerline *work*!?
23:23
<
elliottcable >
That's not a real character! ಠ_ಠ
23:23
<
elliottcable >
ಠWilloxಠ How's this?
23:23
<
^uck >
It's called the Private Use Area
23:23
<
elliottcable >
wait, it comes with a character-font!?
23:23
<
elliottcable >
srsly?
23:23
<
elliottcable >
that's genius.
23:23
<
elliottcable >
Oh my god MUST DO THIS NOW.
23:23
<
^uck >
Powerline I believe has a system which patches other fonts
23:23
<
elliottcable >
brb writing all sorts of command-line interfaces with custom font-icons.
23:23
<
Willox >
elliottcable // do I win?
23:24
<
elliottcable >
♪ If I Had You
23:24
<
^uck >
elliottcable ≀ It has a Python script to patch fonts, or you can configure a fallback font
23:24
* elliottcable
gays the fuck up
23:24
<
Willox >
It's time to hack HexChat so I can have nick completion suffixes over 3 chars
23:24
<
elliottcable >
the fuck is hexchat?
23:24
<
Willox >
(using the console command instead of the settings menu 'hack')
23:24
<
elliottcable >
get irssi.
23:24
<
Willox >
elliottcable // I am still on windows!
23:24
<
elliottcable >
frogor ⑊ How's #MacOSX these days? It's sure been a fuckin' while.
23:24
<
Willox >
My PSU is coming friday
23:25
<
^uck >
hexchat IIRC is the successor to xchat or something
23:25
<
Willox >
HexChat is an actively developed XChat
23:25
<
Willox >
That is properly cross platform
23:25
<
^uck >
Willox ≀≀≀≀≀≀≀≀≀≀≀≀≀≀≀≀ I can make my completions as loooooooong as I want
23:25
<
elliottcable >
“Chloé” looks like a word for coughing up phlegm.
23:25
* elliottcable
chloés
23:25
<
^uck >
... it really does
23:25
<
^uck >
elliottcable ≀ Cloacas?
23:25
<
elliottcable >
oh gods why
23:26
<
Sgeo >
elliottcable, I am the same Sgeo as on GitHub
23:26
<
elliottcable >
Sgeo ⑊ 'k, just checking
23:26
<
elliottcable >
Sgeo ⑊ was adding you to the channel's org
23:26
<
Willox >
elliottcable%C2
23:26
<
Willox >
I can't go over 3 chars
23:26
<
Willox >
HexChat text events
23:26
<
Sgeo >
Help why am I now interested in REBOl
23:26
<
Willox >
%C2,4 is meant to change color
23:26
<
Willox >
but it doesn't
23:27
<
elliottcable >
th'fuck is %C2?
23:27
<
elliottcable >
er, no
23:27
<
elliottcable >
it's ^C*
23:27
<
Willox >
My client!
23:27
<
elliottcable >
hi, Willox
23:27
<
elliottcable >
ASCII-2
23:27
<
Willox >
HexChat is meant to support it
23:27
<
Willox >
Apparently not
23:27
<
elliottcable >
>> console.log("\0022,4abc")
23:27
<
purr >
elliottcable: undefined; Console: '\u00022,4abc'
23:27
<
elliottcable >
watevs
23:27
<
Willox >
I thought I could trust the documentation
23:28
<
Willox >
elliottcable // I am keeping this
23:28
* elliottcable
nods
23:28
<
Willox >
I feel fancy like you, with a compatible charset
23:28
<
elliottcable >
if so, then you're morally obligated to support me next time somebody starts arguing with me about
*mine* in #Node.js
23:28
<
elliottcable >
I'll hold you to it.
23:28
<
Willox >
I'll argue with them
23:28
<
elliottcable >
time to learn about `git grep`
23:29
<
elliottcable >
'cause it's a git command, and I don't know how to use it, and that's super-strange
23:29
<
elliottcable >
also, I need to find the implementation of git log --graph --date-order in the codebase so I can ape it for --author-date-order
23:29
<
^uck >
<C-c>b<C-c>c12
23:29
<
^uck >
I love you weechat
23:29
<
Willox >
I promise to use github properly
23:29
<
^uck >
You make colors so easy~
23:29
<
Willox >
Once I get my new desktop set up
23:30
<
elliottcable >
irssi makes them even easier
23:30
<
elliottcable >
^C2,5^O
23:30
<
Willox >
Everything is possible when you have windows
23:30
<
^uck >
Where is my Caps Lock-Eject swap
23:30
<
elliottcable >
Willox: what.
23:30
<
^uck >
Fuck you xmodmap
23:30
<
elliottcable >
^uck ⑊ THAT FEEL
23:30
<
frogor >
elliottcable: It's still ticking along. Sorry for the delay in response, just demolishing someone in an email.
23:30
<
Willox >
I don't even need to try to use colors
23:30
<
elliottcable >
^uck ⑊ THAT FUCKING FEEL
23:30
<
^uck >
elliottcable ≀ What?
23:30
<
elliottcable >
frogor ⑊ I demand you post the e-mail publically so I can read and laugh at it!
23:30
<
^uck >
Mine just broke cause xmodmap exploded
23:30
<
frogor >
elliottcable: I've been invited to speak at MacTech Conference in November :)
23:31
<
^uck >
Works here too
23:31
<
elliottcable >
^uck ⑊ the “My capslock isn't escaping anymore! Suddenly I can't use ANY OF MY COMMAND-LINE SOFTWARE!”
23:31
<
^uck >
elliottcable ≀ Well, I don't have capslock as escape, I have capslock as Ctrl, and I use jj to escape insert mode
23:31
<
elliottcable >
I use escape in irc too
23:32
<
^uck >
I do too but chording <esc>2 and such is pretty easy
23:32
<
vil >
that didn't work
23:32
<
vil >
irssi y u no color
23:32
<
^uck >
Whereas Ctrl+W and such are harder
23:32
<
frogor >
elliottcable: And I'd paste the email, but it's work related and names names - but it's an idiot that's 2 pay grades above mine that's supposed to be a project manager for an entire agency that doesn't know what the fuck he's talking about.
23:32
<
elliottcable >
hm good point
23:32
<
^uck >
That reach on Ctrl+W is just eugh
23:32
<
elliottcable >
frogor ⑊ Whaddya do? Dev?
23:32
<
^uck >
I think I hav a bit more advanced tho
23:32
<
^uck >
Caps Lock is mapped onto my Eject key
23:33
<
Willox >
Is that not annoying?
23:33
<
^uck >
Is what not annoying?
23:33
<
frogor >
elliottcable: Umm, lots of things these days. Workstation and server administration and security (penetration testing / vulnerability scanning) mostly these days.
23:33
<
^uck >
Willox ≀ Having Eject replaced with CapsLock?
23:33
<
^uck >
Or having Caps Lock as Control?
23:33
<
elliottcable >
frogor's a hacker!
23:33
<
Willox >
Caps lock as control is amazin
23:34
<
Willox >
I thought you said caps lock as eject
23:34
<
elliottcable >
♪ Voyager, Daft Punk
23:34
<
vil >
Willox: yeah, mapping my caps lock to control was the best thing I've done to my keyboard
23:34
<
^uck >
Willox ≀ haha no. I only was willing to remap caps lock to control if I could save my caps lock
23:34
<
vil >
elliottcable: mmm
23:34
<
Willox >
I have done the same
23:34
<
Willox >
(caps lock to control)
23:34
<
^uck >
BECAUSE I REALLY LIKE MY CAPS LOCK KEY
23:34
<
^uck >
Which is why I remapped Eject to Caps Lock
23:34
<
Willox >
My caps lock key is broken
23:34
<
Willox >
and is acting as F5
23:35
<
^uck >
Willox ≀ At least reloading is easy
23:35
<
Willox >
That's slightly less useful
23:35
<
Willox >
I don't even know what its doing
23:35
<
^uck >
Mashing F5 is suddenly quite simply
23:35
<
vil >
^uck: I just hold shift, it adds even more anger
23:35
<
^uck >
Go on /b/, have fun
23:35
<
joelteon >
wow, weechat can do vertical splits
23:35
<
Willox >
It's just browsing this website on its own
23:35
<
Willox >
I don't know what it is doing
23:35
<
^uck >
THAT'S FINE WITH ME, VIL, BUT WITH PUNCTUATION IT BECOMES HARDER AND SLOWS ME DOWN
23:35
<
^uck >
Willox ≀ HAXX0RED
23:35
<
elliottcable >
Sorry, afk for a second while I fix purr slightly.
23:35
<
vil >
I DONT USE PUNCTUATION WHEN IM ANGRY
23:36
<
^uck >
ONLY BUTTWHORES DON'T USE PUNCTUATION
23:36
<
Willox >
I don't understand
23:36
<
^uck >
ARE YOU A BUTTWHORE VIL
23:36
<
vil >
god, it's amazing how much that affects the voice I hear
23:36
<
Willox >
It changes my history
23:36
<
vil >
brains are cool
23:36
<
Willox >
I changed it to backspace
23:36
<
frogor >
What is this, random keyboard mapping?
23:37
<
Willox >
This explains so much
23:37
<
^uck >
That gives me an idea
23:37
<
Willox >
I thought I had set caps lock to control
23:37
<
Willox >
turns out it is backspace
23:37
<
vil >
map a key to randomly remap all your keys
23:37
<
Willox >
vil, except for itself
23:37
<
^uck >
I should make a program which automatically remaps all your non-alphanumeric keys
23:37
<
Willox >
So you can use it multiple times
23:37
<
vil >
moves to a different key
23:37
<
^uck >
So every time you reboot
23:37
<
^uck >
It picks a different layout
23:37
<
^uck >
That you have to relearn
23:37
<
^uck >
Or better yet
23:37
<
^uck >
Switch randomly between Colemak, Dvorak, and QWERTY
23:38
<
Willox >
It has to be in an order
23:38
<
^uck >
This is vile
23:38
<
Willox >
So you actually learn to type with it
23:38
<
^uck >
This is genius
23:38
<
Willox >
That'd be pretty amazing to see someone doing
23:38
<
Willox >
Typing a whole word without moving their finger
23:38
<
elliottcable >
What the FUCK are you people talking about?
23:38
<
elliottcable >
-what
23:38
<
purr >
<elliottcable> “Kapo also had a detachable vagina, which she once used as a decoy to aid her sister Pele to flee the overzealous Kamapua'a.”
23:38
<
elliottcable >
watwatwatwatawa
23:38
<
elliottcable >
WAtWaTwat.
23:39
<
Willox >
thanks, purr
23:40
<
eboy >
who wants a hat ^
23:40
<
Willox >
well I'm off
23:40
<
elliottcable >
WAIT
23:40
<
Willox >
have fun with your keyboard invention
23:40
<
elliottcable >
wait, why do I want you to wait
23:40
Willox is now known as Willox^
23:40
elliottcable is now known as elliottcable^
23:40
<
Willox^ >
I'll wait if you want
23:40
<
elliottcable^ >
forgot my hat D:
23:40
<
eboy >
youre welcome
23:40
<
Willox^ >
I'll leave this on over night
23:40
<
elliottcable^ >
<3 eboy
23:40
<
purr >
Let it be known that elliottcable^ hearts eboy.
23:40
<
elliottcable^ >
shit
23:40
<
elliottcable^ >
-- eboy
23:40
<
purr >
Let it be known that elliottcable^ is indifferent to eboy.
23:40
elliottcable^ is now known as elliottcable
23:40
<
eboy >
-wholoves eboy
23:40
<
purr >
eboy: eboy is loved by devyn and mix|hypomanic.
23:40
<
elliottcable >
<3 eboy
23:40
<
purr >
Let it be known that elliottcable hearts eboy.
23:40
elliottcable is now known as elliottcable^
23:40
<
eboy >
-wholoves eboy
23:40
<
purr >
eboy: eboy is loved by devyn, elliottcable, and mix|hypomanic.
23:41
<
Willox^ >
<3 Willox
23:41
<
purr >
Let it be known that Willox^ hearts Willox.
23:41
Willox^ is now known as Willox
23:41
<
elliottcable^ >
lol
23:41
<
eboy >
-whohates eboy
23:41
<
purr >
eboy: eboy is hated by gqbrielle and remyvaillancour.
23:41
<
Willox >
-loves Willox
23:41
<
purr >
Willox: Willox loves cheese.
23:41
<
elliottcable^ >
-wholoves Willox
23:41
<
purr >
elliottcable^: Willox is loved by elliottcable and Willox^.
23:41
<
eboy >
-wholoves elliottcable^
23:41
<
purr >
eboy: elliottcable^ is loved by no one :(
23:41
<
Willox >
Make it use hostnames
23:41
<
eboy >
-wholoves elliottcable
23:41
<
purr >
eboy: elliottcable is loved by devyn, locks, sephr, IamTash, gqbe, mix, little_boys, and brr.
23:41
Willox is now known as Willox^
23:41
<
eboy >
-whohates elliottcable
23:41
<
purr >
eboy: elliottcable is hated by Nuck, gqbrielle, darkf, eboy, and everybody.
23:41
<
elliottcable^ >
little_boys lol
23:41
<
elliottcable^ >
wow
23:41
<
elliottcable^ >
appears that gq is of two minds over me
23:41
<
eboy >
++ elliottcable^
23:41
<
purr >
Let it be known that eboy loves elliottcable^.
23:41
<
eboy >
++ elliottcable
23:41
<
purr >
Let it be known that eboy is indifferent to elliottcable.
23:41
<
eboy >
-- elliottcable^
23:41
<
purr >
Let it be known that eboy is indifferent to elliottcable^.
23:42
<
vil >
elliottcable^: that IS a common problem with her
23:42
<
elliottcable^ >
true fact
23:42
frogor is now known as ugly_people
23:42
<
purr >
^uck: nuck doesn't love anything :(
23:42
<
ugly_people >
<3 elliottcable
23:42
<
purr >
Let it be known that ugly_people hearts elliottcable.
23:42
* elliottcable^
high-fives vil
23:42
ugly_people is now known as frogor
23:42
<
purr >
^uck: Nuck loves his penis, JavaScript, Redis, OrangeSoda, himself, Cracked, his iPhone, purr, LESS, Mocha, BitTorrent, gqbrielle, portland, Iron & Wine, Arch Linux, ∆, Bombay Bicycle Club, DownThemAll, ##Hat, LaTeX, Chrome, Lemon Jelly, /buffer clear, Broken Bells, Neutral Milk Hotel, Fleet Foxes, Arcade Fire, Cage The Elephant, Sufjan Stevens, vil, movements, VirtualBox, Tame Impala, Tunng, Hooray For Earth, Andrew Bird, Trails and Ways, catbug, Ritsu, locks,
23:42
<
purr >
eboy: eboy loves russfrank, devyn, C, logic gates, state machines, parsing, deterministic finite automata, lexing, ΩF:∅, America, ArchLinux, Ubuntu, sex, drugs, rock and roll, and Weird Al.
23:42
<
^uck >
Stop case sensitizing elliottcable^
23:42
<
purr >
Let it be known that eboy is indifferent to Weird Al.
23:42
<
frogor >
-loves elliotcable
23:42
<
purr >
frogor: elliotcable doesn't love anything :(
23:42
<
purr >
eboy: eboy loves russfrank, devyn, C, logic gates, state machines, parsing, deterministic finite automata, lexing, ΩF:∅, America, ArchLinux, Ubuntu, sex, drugs, and rock and roll.
23:42
<
elliottcable^ >
Guys.
23:42
<
purr >
vil: vil loves remy, pie, Matchbox Twenty, The Glitch Mob, Daft Punk, Maths, Cake, Zedd, Nuck, purr, javascript, Adam Savage, Monstercat, Feed Me so much, Modest Mouse, micahjohnston, and C.
23:42
<
elliottcable^ >
Guys.
23:42
<
elliottcable^ >
Guys.
23:42
<
elliottcable^ >
/join #purr
23:42
<
elliottcable^ >
'k?
23:42
<
elliottcable^ >
'k.
23:42
<
frogor >
-wholoves elliotcable
23:42
<
purr >
frogor: elliotcable is loved by no one :(
23:42
<
purr >
eboy: eboy hates crockford.
23:43
<
eboy >
damn straight
23:43
<
frogor >
-wholoves elliottcable
23:43
<
purr >
frogor: elliottcable is loved by devyn, locks, sephr, IamTash, gqbe, mix, little_boys, brr, and ugly_people.
23:43
<
eboy >
-wholoves frogor
23:43
<
purr >
eboy: frogor is loved by no one :(
23:43
<
eboy >
-whohates frogor
23:43
<
purr >
eboy: frogor is hated by no one :)
23:43
<
frogor >
True, true.
23:43
<
eboy >
logically, no one knows frogor
23:43
<
^uck >
-whohates eboy
23:43
<
purr >
^uck: eboy is hated by gqbrielle and remyvaillancour.
23:43
<
joelteon >
logically
23:43
<
frogor >
eboy: Or they're just all indifferent to me.
23:44
<
eboy >
-whohates Nuck
23:44
<
purr >
eboy: Nuck is hated by Nuck, elliottcable, darkf, sephr, and gqbe{remy.
23:44
<
^uck >
Gq really hates you eboy
23:44
<
eboy >
^uck: Qg also loves me
23:44
<
^uck >
Only once for me tho
23:44
<
eboy >
-wholoves Nuck
23:44
<
purr >
eboy: Nuck is loved by devyn, gqbrielle, sephr, gqbe, Nuck_, everybody, vil, that_was_a_lie, gabberwocky, Laufeyson, and Harlequin.
23:44
<
joelteon >
switching to a light colored theme is pretty weird
23:44
<
^uck >
Gq is split on all of us
23:44
<
joelteon >
just sayin
23:44
<
^uck >
joelteon: You get used to it
23:44
<
eboy >
joelteon: light color schemes make me happy and seems cleaner to me
23:45
<
eboy >
like a fresh piece of canvas
23:45
<
^uck >
My OS X is all dark and Monokai, my loonix is all bright and happy
23:45
<
^uck >
I aimed for airy and clean with Linux. It paid off.
23:45
<
eboy >
dark themes are for poor hackers who want to feel elite but aren't so creative
23:45
<
elliottcable^ >
IRC and MacVim are light-solarized
23:45
<
elliottcable^ >
random terminals and git-control terminals are dark-solarized
23:46
<
^uck >
Errything of mine is themed based on my wallpaper
23:46
<
^uck >
On Linux that is. Not that I use OS X anyways
23:46
<
eboy >
So everything of yours is furry?
23:46
<
vil >
back later, being coerced into exercise
23:46
* vil
high-fives eboy
23:46
<
elliottcable^ >
fucking furries
23:47
<
elliottcable^ >
coerced lol
23:51
purr has quit [Remote host closed the connection]
23:52
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23:55
<
joelteon >
ok this isn't so bad
23:56
<
Willox^ >
mibbit is so bad
23:56
<
joelteon >
mibbit is pretty bad yeah
23:56
<
Willox^ >
I need to put cgiirc on my server
23:56
<
Willox^ >
or I could just ssh
23:57
<
jeannicolas >
alexgordon: I'm offended
23:57
<
joelteon >
solarized colors are a bit hard to read
23:57
<
joelteon >
maybe it's just me
23:57
<
alexgordon >
elliottcable^ SEE
23:57
<
alexgordon >
HE LIVES
23:57
<
Willox^ >
Chromebook can't use my private key
23:58
<
jeannicolas >
alexgordon: kinda forgot I was in this channel haha
23:59
<
Willox^ >
I see you all removed your hats