20:41 <esden> whitequark:

20:43 <esden> whitequark: one thing led to another ... and after you asked me to upstream footprint improvements, I ended up spending several days learning about the (arguabely messy) generator script situation of kicad and adding tssop footprints to KiCad... that covers one footprint of glasgow... two more to go ... :) https://github.com/KiCad/kicad-footprints/pull/2090

20:44 <esden> I think the MSOP stuff will go faster as I know the process now. SOT-23 requires me to write new generator scripts I think so that will be "fun"...

20:45 <whitequark> whoa, thank you!

20:45 <esden> (I don't really want to just create manual footprints for kicad it feels like it is just a temporary patch until kicad changes something in the libraries or needs some upgrade... that is why I put all the effort into the scripts instead...

20:45 <esden> )

20:46 <bvernoux> esden, very nice yes script is the best

20:46 <bvernoux> esden, it will be nice to have that for lot of stuff in KiCad as the provided library delivered is so huge especially for all types of headers ..

20:47 <esden> whitequark: hehe I am glad you appreciate it. The effort came with a bunch of cussing. :D But it is an investment worth while. Maybe I can eventually start helping them to clean up the script situation.

20:47 <bvernoux> something more clever will be to generate on fly needed components to avoid this 1GB lib to download

20:48 <esden> yeah there are plans for some more clever footprints in future KiCad versions.

20:48 <bvernoux> so scripts is clearly the way to do it ;)

20:48 <esden> but it will be part of the footprint parameters itself. That is what I heard...

20:50 <esden> for now you need external scripts but the machine readable footprint data I have put in there will hopefully be useful down the road. :)

21:20 <whitequark> Stormwind_mobile: https://twitter.com/IanJohnBuckley/status/1227702221447536640

21:21 <whitequark> there is apparently a really good reason for the cursedness of that package

22:17 <hell__> does knowing that make it more or less cursed than before?

22:18 <whitequark> yes.

22:30 <uberushaximus> esden: can I buy a glasgow yet? :O

22:45 <awygle> > (arguably messy)

22:45 <awygle> their insistence that i use those scripts basically turned me off upstreaming kicad footprints :(

22:46 <awygle> (i still do it it just pisses me off)

22:47 <whitequark> yeah i'm not a huge fan either

22:47 <whitequark> unfortunately it looks like they're *really* low on manpower

22:47 <whitequark> >300 PRs in review queue

22:47 <awygle> yeah

22:59 <gruetzkopf> i know people who review footprints if you need some reordered ;)