<customminer>
fkinglag: Yeah, basically you can either borrow or short gridcoin mpa into existence & back it with BTS as collateral, or you can buy it from users who have done so.
<fkinglag>
I see.. so I need BTS first
<customminer>
fkinglag: When we've got the openledger presence, we'll have the ability to go Gridcoin (our chain) -> Open.GRC -> GRIDCOIN (MPA)
<customminer>
fkinglag: Yeah, as a backing token. We'll switch to using open.GRC as a backing token when it's available
<fkinglag>
I see
<Peppernrino>
so somebody stole my idea for a boinc project and made it into an altcoin?
<Peppernrino>
hm. should make that ddos project, and reward it with their coin.
<customminer>
fkinglag: That said, you can trade any token for the gridcoin mpa, check out the available market pairs, liquidity will be a problem though
<customminer>
Peppernrino: Don't think that'd even be a legal grey area, blackhat project :/
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<customminer>
Peppernrino: Whilst ddos may be percieved as a 'protest', many have been prosecuted for participating in ddoses in the past. So yeah, mebeh not lol :P
<customminer>
fkinglag: Yeah there's fees everywhere but it's a decentralized exchange not a centralized exchange.
<Peppernrino>
bareback
<Peppernrino>
that's weird. my mind totally went to sex too.
<apc>
!hack
<fediverse>
I've informed FBI about this hack
<apc>
!hack !hack !hack
<Peppernrino>
"haxorz my botzorz" turned into "sucked my dick"
<fediverse>
I've informed NSA about this hack
<apc>
hahaha
<Peppernrino>
!fight !hack
<GRCB0T>
Let's do this, !hack!
<fediverse>
make love, not war
<Peppernrino>
!condom
<Peppernrino>
that's the most disturbbing thing fediverse has said yet.
<Peppernrino>
chilling.
<Peppernrino>
customminer: so a decen. exchange is more like a meeting place than a bank then?
<Peppernrino>
decex
<Peppernrino>
new word
<customminer>
Peppernrino: Yeah, you hold your own coins, so it's like everyone on the platform is a bank and the network is an open trading floor between banks.
<Peppernrino>
so hey. awesome thing i just noticed after deleting some crap out of the recording... if you multitrack it, you get rid of the echos rfom their side. might even be able to save caraka's audio ffs!
<apc>
you mean it's not Push To Listen?
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<customminer>
Peppernrino: cool :D
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<Peppernrino>
push to laugh.
<Phay>
puish
<Phay>
wtf
<Phay>
when I try to drag your name from IRC to Mumble. nothing hapens
<Phay>
fucking retarded
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<mrtrousers>
haha
<jamezz>
apc , I think I know how you feel crunching now... gpugrid makes my shit run 150F aka 68.3C ( gpu that is ) and runs for ever
<jamezz>
its cooling off outside , but my video card is delaying that for my room
<jamezz>
i deff need to add/route it into my water cooling since its more than enough for my cpu
<jamezz>
:(
<apc>
that's like a chilly fall day
<mrtrousers>
crunch crunch
<jamezz>
you run gpugrid per chance?
<apc>
mine is at 76 right now
<apc>
nah mine is amd
<apc>
gpugrid is nvidia
<jamezz>
76C ? in your room?
<jamezz>
ah
<jamezz>
i would have had to look , and the page IS open
<jamezz>
as i am always adding more machines and having to tune
<apc>
haha at the gpu
<jamezz>
you have GPU capability for mining?
<jamezz>
you have some decent ATI ?
<jamezz>
currious temp is so
<apc>
r9 290x in this box
<apc>
gpu is hashing ether+decred with 10% overclock
<jamezz>
my cpu cores never change , you can touch it where the cooler mounts to the cpu... kinda touch the side the cpu no issue with temp lol
<jamezz>
oh nice
<apc>
before water cooling it'd be 95C easy with this load
<jamezz>
i dont know either rther or decred
<jamezz>
but thats ok
<jamezz>
either ether*
<jamezz>
i do but that just fit , i know what ether is
<jamezz>
I DONT KNOW EITHER ETHER OR DECRED
<jamezz>
:)
<jamezz>
i noticed my video card did in deed have a shitty fan , so i need shut down and proper clean it... i just got a can of air
<jamezz>
cleaned the rest out..
<jamezz>
oh oh oh my mod
<Mercosity>
Now = chunky!
<apc>
decred is some crypto started by some of the bitcoin devs. not worth much but my miner software can do it without impacting ether, so I do
<fkinglag>
:|
<Mercosity>
chunky = monkey therfore now = monkey qed.
<jamezz>
ha i added 2 off spare ports in the pack and routed them into the case , but i think to much draw rofl
<jamezz>
its lulz
<jamezz>
i put 4 in my usb hub and use my laptop , next to my bed
<jamezz>
lol
<apc>
brought my xeon box back home to have a linux station to run the wallet on. if everything were to go at full load I'd be pulling close to 15 amps out of the wall. fortunately, everything won't be at full load :D
<apc>
I need to get one of those little outlet meters to see what my rig is actually pulling
<reddy1975>
Good morning
<reddy1975>
!stats
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<Zach_S_>
my gridcoin wallet is still broken or something
<Peppernrino>
should be perfect for most home needs.
<Peppernrino>
i'm in love with the specs and the price.
<jamezz>
:(
<Peppernrino>
24/192 over thunderbolt
<Peppernrino>
that's hard to beat
<Peppernrino>
look at the thing
<Peppernrino>
don't be sad
<Peppernrino>
be happy it's so glorious
<jamezz>
i have a sure mic , little behringer ( i cant spell that ) 3 chan stereo 5 chan mono mixer main chan has 1/4 inch and XLR
<jamezz>
plus preamp
<jamezz>
prefer for direct radio for HI-FI ham radio
<jamezz>
perfect*
<jamezz>
shure*
<jamezz>
ha i never pause this thing and even though its my laptop its got 3 WU's going then I SWEAR i hit letters and they dont enter because the machine needed that resource time
<jamezz>
my desktop does it too when a multi core WU has it maxxed on CPU
<Peppernrino>
why don't we have flair on our /r/ yet?
<Peppernrino>
weak.
<Peppernrino>
i have many shure mics! a few beta 57a's. beta 58... sm58... this yeti pro... and a piece of shit roland i use for kick density
<Peppernrino>
i wish i had more analog gear. me and my old roommate were building up quite the pile of shit.
<jamezz>
i dont sing , ima guess by the nipples you are in a boy band with girl on either drums or guitar?
<Peppernrino>
the only thing i really long for is a nice condenser mic... and the yeti is pretty sweet
<jamezz>
my stuffs all on air
<Peppernrino>
even has xlr out
<Peppernrino>
terrible guess.
<Peppernrino>
my main project is a metal band
<Peppernrino>
i also have some solo stuff that is more... punk?
<fkinglag>
ur terrible guess
<Peppernrino>
depressing accoustic stuff too
<jamezz>
and my previous was all on air 93.7fm and 103.3fm , my alesis compressor and my 64 band EQ rack.. of and a full low power 1/2 rack tv transmiter we did the DTV 3m bins on HU cards and rebroadcasted what we were watching
<Peppernrino>
like watch2gether
<Peppernrino>
lol
<jamezz>
im sorry for bad guess, it was the nipples
<cyberkev1>
still got 4 on here that are deadline today and tomorrow it didnt start on so I've had to suspend other projects for it to pick the wu's up
<cyberkev1>
so anyone else had POR stop for 3-4 days ?
<cyberkev1>
on all projects
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
no, it's working
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
did you change something recently ?
<jamezz>
oh and cyberkev1 i have burn on a dell optiplex 730 or something athlon 2 3500+ dual core with 6gb ram - minus the 128mb video
<jamezz>
so i guess less actually too
<jamezz>
burp love sit
<jamezz>
this laptops got 4
<Mercosity>
peppernrino sorry didn't reply to you but got distracted with some long running yafu wus. had a probelm with some before, holds up other wus from other projects.
<jamezz>
so , if you wanted to run it but thought you had to little ram... might reconsider... thats my highest payout
<Mercosity>
Thanks for the up vote
<cyberkev1>
not really changed anything. added about 5 new projects last week thats all
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<GRCB0T>
!rainactive 4 20
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! GRCB0T rained 0.30769231 GRC on active users ribeye, slimeball, SvartH, psychu, fediverse, cyberkev1, Peppernrino, cbr, Mercosity, Combined2857, jamezz, Erkan_Yilmaz, Jybrael! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Jybrael>
Thank you mate
<Combined2857>
TY BOT
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<jamezz>
thanks bot , not much rain this weekend for me!
<jamezz>
nite nite
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<Mercosity>
Tanks!!
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<jopa>
!stats
<fediverse>
jopa, please check your private message for the !stats result
<cyberkev1>
was doing por every day, 2 at most
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<cyberkev1>
Katies calc has por and mag and all the new projects listed now
<cyberkev1>
some didnt show up till yesterday
<cyberkev1>
almost like the boinc api was slow to update
<cyberkev1>
Unrelated. Is your mag affected by your team position ?
<cyberkev1>
So you are better off running a few projects for a while to get in the top few of a team then stabilising it there with enough work then adding another project etc ?
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<fkinglag>
hey Peppernrino
<fkinglag>
be quiet
<fkinglag>
polo deposits work now
<fkinglag>
my deposit from oh-so-long-ago has finally shown up
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<reddy1975>
!stats
<fediverse>
Oh, fellow Gridcoin enthusiast reddy1975, please check your PM for the !stats result
<fkinglag>
all I know is that the BTS thing went "live" yesterday
<fkinglag>
once the "gateway/bridge" thingy from BTS goes live for GRC then we're in business I hear
<bubu1uk>
byobu detach
<bubu1uk>
byobu detach
<fkinglag>
wat
<bubu1uk>
crap. wrong window. :D
<bubu1uk>
disadvantage of running irssi. :) i didn't notice i'm not in command line
<bubu1uk>
!stats
<fediverse>
Oh, fellow Gridcoin enthusiast bubu1uk, your !stats were sent via PM
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<bubu1sk>
!stats
<fediverse>
Oh, fellow Gridcoin enthusiast bubu1sk, your !stats were sent via private message
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<Mercosity>
!stats
<fediverse>
Mercosity, sending the result via PM
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<HViD_work>
hey
<Mercosity>
Ho
<HViD_work>
Is it possible to run boinc without admin rights for installation? Like a web-app or something like that?
<Mercosity>
Sry that's something I don't know. Ask fkinglag, cyberkev1 or vega40k they might know.
<HViD_work>
I read that boinc only needs admin rights to install but not to actually run, so it should be possible to just copy the folder from my home pc. That being said I'd prefer a web-app for the work pc instead of putting the actual files on the pc.
<HViD_work>
On a side-note I just found 30+ blade servers in the company basement.. now I just need to convince my boss to let me set them up and run some boinc :)
<cyberkev1>
I've got 14 HS21's running at home
<cyberkev1>
3.8kw running all of them, good in the winter not so good in the summer
<cyberkev1>
really loud too
<apc>
*yaaaaaaaawn*
<apc>
!stats
<apc>
!btc
<cyberkev1>
boinc always used to need admin rights
<apc>
!usd
<fediverse>
apc, sending the result via private message
<cyberkev1>
on my linux boxes (ubuntu) you have to do sudo install boinc-app-seti
<cyberkev1>
to install
<cyberkev1>
once installed any user can use boinccmd to control it
<cyberkev1>
thats mostly where it puts the files though
<apc>
google says you need admin privs to install boinc
<cyberkev1>
boinc on a 'doze pc just asks you to confirm you want to let the installer make changes to the pc
<cyberkev1>
if the confirming making changes is the same as giving admin rights its prob right
<apc>
it is
* fkinglag
boops Peppernrino
<apc>
I think it adds its own user to run under
<HViD_work>
I just tried installing boinc without admin rights in windows and it gives an error
<HViD_work>
thats a lot of power, cyberkev... Would cost me around 1.5$/hour to run those - electricity in denmark is f*cking expensive
<apc>
you need to get you some of that internet money!
<apc>
oh... right... nevermind
<fkinglag>
electricity here is like $0.05-$0.15, I believe
<fkinglag>
per kw
* fkinglag
is going for broke.
<fkinglag>
people like NeuralMiner, HeyMerlin and cyberkev1 better invest in solar assets ;)
<apc>
$0.14 during the summer here. I forget winter
<fkinglag>
before it's too late
<fkinglag>
we have peak/off-peak rates
<fkinglag>
not sure how the power company does here about solar/wind
<apc>
yeah off-peak is like 3am tho hehehe
<fkinglag>
gas gets expensive in the winter here
<fkinglag>
electricity on the other hand goes up in the summer
<HViD_work>
in DK its about 0.4$/kwh
<apc>
we have a few wind farms and there's several little solar farms around town, but they're private
<fkinglag>
I may eventually figure out a way to startup operations in a place like Norway or Finland just for cheap electricity
<fkinglag>
my dream is to own a waterfall there :P
<HViD_work>
cheap electricity and cheap cooling :)
<fkinglag>
we have like less than a dozen wind turbines in the state of Minnesota
<fkinglag>
it's so ridiculous
<Mercosity>
In Ireland it's equivalent to $0.17/KwHr
<fkinglag>
we have the Mississippi river turbine energy I guess running through the state
<apc>
wha?
<fkinglag>
the river is dammed up, apc
<apc>
you mean like, potential? I don't remember anyone damming the mississippi
<apc>
where?
<fkinglag>
I've seen so many dams
<Mercosity>
So electricity in Denmark is f*****g cheap!
<apc>
damn.
<fkinglag>
apc: one is in Grand Rapids, another Coon Rapids, and a bunch down the way on into Minneapolis
<fkinglag>
those are the one's I've seen
<apc>
oh up there ok. that's basically canada in my mind :P
<fkinglag>
lol Grand Rapids is basically Canada to me, too
<HViD_work>
I've seen so many windmills - the reason electricity is so expensive in Denmark is due to a political decision about green energy. There's currently around 6k mills in Denmark
<fkinglag>
Coon Rapids dam is just a bike away for me :P
<fkinglag>
it's a fun day trip
<Mercosity>
Also have to pay 15% vat on top of $0.15/KwHr
<fkinglag>
I've biked across the Mississippi river onto some islands when the water levels are lowered by the dam
<apc>
I'm in missouri and to think about damming the mississippi I know would be crazy
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<fkinglag>
yeah we're at the bottom of a continental river basin of sorts, Minnesota
<fkinglag>
the closer to the ocean the lower the elevation
<fkinglag>
if I own a dam then I could create free money and energy :D
<SvartH>
then you could mine grc like hell?
<fkinglag>
maybe
<fkinglag>
it could be used to water cool maybe
<fkinglag>
the electricity would obviously be paid for and generated
<fkinglag>
not to mention the electricity can be sold
<fkinglag>
a waterfall may actually end up paying for itself if you bought land with one on it
<apc>
you can build a waterfall anywhere, given enough slaves
<fkinglag>
not sure where the hell in the world you're able to find land like that, which also so happens to be available.
<fkinglag>
I could possibly find some place up north in Minnesota
<fkinglag>
lots of streams
<Mercosity>
Tibet.
<fkinglag>
I wouldn't mind build it myself :P
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<Erkan_Yilmaz>
the mpa trading data available via !btw now
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<fkinglag>
maaaaaaan land is so cheap up north near the wilderness
<fkinglag>
$39k 10 acres
<fkinglag>
but no waterfall :\
<WhitesoxCrypto>
aftersoon gridsters...
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<cyberkev1>
I got cheap gridseed GC3355 miner off ebay recently. Used a Raspberry pi b running minera on a litecoin pool to run it. after 24 hours its only got 0.003 LTC
<cyberkev1>
experiment failed :)
<cyberkev1>
wonder if i can run a boinc project that uses script on it though
<cyberkev1>
scrypt
<cyberkev1>
£1 every 1000 days isnt going to go far :)
<fkinglag>
unless you have some to sell to me for amazon monies
<fkinglag>
I buy GRC at polo, bittrex or ccex
<fkinglag>
idk how good holy transaction and EObot are as exchanges
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<cyberkev1>
If you've been getting por every day or so with about 4500grc in your wallet then you withdraw some and it srops to 2600grc is that no longer enough to stake reguarly and would that affect por ?
<cyberkev1>
happened just before por stopped
<kiebitz>
Hi guys
<customminer>
cyberkev1: Could potentially increase the time to stake yes.
<customminer>
kiebitz: hey
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<cyberkev1>
ok as long as its my fault :)
<cyberkev1>
will keep it over 4-5000grc from now on
<cyberkev1>
so por is related to staking ?
<customminer>
yes
<customminer>
por is rewarded on top of staking, your mag does contribute towards stake weight
<GRCB0T>
The current (running) version of this Limnoria is 2016.08.07, running on Python 3.4.3 (default, Oct 14 2015, 20:28:29) [GCC 4.8.4]. The newest versions available online are 2016.08.10 (in testing), 2016.08.07 (in master).
<PenumbraDuFromag>
gentoo will lag a bit I'm sure.. Let me go look.
<PenumbraDuFromag>
Ah, it's not supported directly by a repo - I have to do a source build either way..
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<Phay>
greetings. humans
<Phay>
I come from Planet Korea
<fkinglag>
hello
<fkinglag>
person
<fediverse>
tzag (time zone appropriate greetings), may the 23 glorious GRC Gods smile at you today. Do you know what's happening with BOINC project 'Cosmology@Home' ?
<fkinglag>
welcome to this place
<Phay>
thank. you. boy
<Phay>
00000000101001001111101101000100101
<cyberkev1>
Phay, royalphay was looking for you, something about uranium enrichment
<fkinglag>
hi Phay
<fkinglag>
are you new?
<Phay>
what are you two humans discussing
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<cyberkev1>
1 gram would be plenty apparantly for thier project
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
Hi, who wants to help me ? you need your wallet synced and started
<fediverse>
hi, may the green-up-arrow be with you. Do you know what's happening with BOINC project 'The Lattice Project' ?
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
lattice is waiting for 378 WUs to be returned
<fediverse>
(info: try also my commands: !usd or !eur)
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
!tip 0.1 PenumbraDuFromag
<GRCtip>
Usage: !tip <nick> <amount>
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
!tip PenumbraDuFromag 0.1
<GRCtip>
Erkan_Yilmaz tipped PenumbraDuFromag 0.1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
thank you, PenumbraDuFromag
<PenumbraDuFromag>
Merci :)
<PenumbraDuFromag>
I should blog a post about building GRCD on Gentoo - the docs don't cut it, and I have to make a few adjustments to get a clean build each time I update.
<NeuralMiner>
what's up guys
<PenumbraDuFromag>
Building the new release from source, helping Erkan build a bot.. In an all day session at work (over the phone), and otherwise goofing off.. You?
<cyberkev1>
not the exchange rate :)
<NeuralMiner>
lol
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* cyberkev1
gets increasingly worried about no por since the 11th
<GRCB0T>
Title: Mighty Boosh/Old Greg/Do You Love Me? - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
<HViD>
!cpid 2c3439c58e4c4dd921aa408db00b84fb
<fediverse>
My dear HViD, please check your private message for the !cpid result
<PenumbraDuFromag>
The pattern is always been clear: Even release just DON'T DO IT.. Odd releases are bugfixed versions. M$ just likes calling things finny names, but if you track it by even/odd release pattersn it all makes sense.
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<customminer>
cyberkev1: 8 was disaster, 8.1 OK, win10 disaster. Time to break the pattern and switch to Linux.
<PenumbraDuFromag>
Gentoo is not for the weak of fu.
<HeyMerlin>
cyberkev1: 98se was great... me was the disaster, xp and are as you mentioned.
<Peppernrino>
i wouldn't include 8 and 8.1 in the same category
<Peppernrino>
lol
<HeyMerlin>
I don't know customminer win10 has been pretty decent actually. I have had a lot of win 7 folk switch without issue and like it (myself included).
<Peppernrino>
one loads to a piece of shit, one loads to a desktop.
<PenumbraDuFromag>
It's like Vista vs 7.
<Peppernrino>
HeyMerlin: infosec.
<PenumbraDuFromag>
7 - Vista w/lessons learned..
<PenumbraDuFromag>
7 =
<apc>
10 is working fine for me so far, but my eyebrow is being raised about what MS plans to do with their new strategy
<Peppernrino>
MS is being sued
<Peppernrino>
their strategy is to push people as far as they can
<Peppernrino>
legally
<HeyMerlin>
MS is always being sued... Hell half of the companies are being sued.
<PenumbraDuFromag>
Always has been... They're founded by a guy who stole X from Xerox and called it "Windows" ffs..
<NeuralMiner>
customminer, how was the hangout
<apc>
it's this new subscription model. I know they expect it to dramatically increase consumer revenue
<HeyMerlin>
good point NeuralMiner I missed that again... one of these days I'll join in.
<apc>
and they keep sneaking stuff back in with the major updates
<apc>
their bloatware, and now the lock screen is back and can't be killed without hacking it out
<apc>
so they'll probably be using it for ads again
<PenumbraDuFromag>
is nsakey.dll back yet? fk M$...
<apc>
wasn't that like windows 95? hehehe
<PenumbraDuFromag>
Yeah :D I"ve got a good memory for stupid shit like that..
<customminer>
NeuralMiner yeah the hangout went well!
<customminer>
NeuralMiner: have any of the projects hot back to you get regarding ssl?
<NeuralMiner>
good to hear. you guys posting the audio?
<customminer>
Peppernrino is editing the audio, will upload soon.
<apc>
pepper's going for an award with this one
<PenumbraDuFromag>
It's insane, given the state of the world and politics, to believe that there aren't back doors we aren't aware of.. It's easy to do, and transparent to users. This whole subscription based nonsense just gives them a clear reason to be shipping data back and forth, but it's just a practice they and most of the other OS writers do.
<NeuralMiner>
yeah, leiden (i believe, gonna check). pretty much said no. not happening.
<Peppernrino>
:D editing
<customminer>
Lol seriously? They give a reason?
<PenumbraDuFromag>
I found the conversation about unlocking the Apple phone funny as I could have done it in a day with the tech I have available without any harm to the device.
<NeuralMiner>
"there are no plans to get a SSL cert for this site. There are no reasons as all data is also accessible through http and authentication is done through authenticators."
<customminer>
BRB, shower
<fkinglag>
gl;hf customminer
<Phay>
^
<customminer>
Lol plain text authenticators maybe
<Phay>
virgin
<NeuralMiner>
yeah, i dont think he understood the problem. i replied but nothing back yet
<NeuralMiner>
brb reboot
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<coinictus>
good afternoon
<fkinglag>
good afternoon
<apc>
noon aftergood
<Phay>
good morning
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<Hooker63>
!pool balance
<fediverse>
per day (estimate): 2057 GRC, 0.0206 BTC, $11.63; 30 days: $348.91
<GRCB0T>
Title: Explaining Green Computing - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
<bubu1sk>
so my raspberry pi just earned 30 credits in Enigma project
<fkinglag>
congrats bubu1sk
<bubu1sk>
since yesterday evening. :) not bad
<fkinglag>
!tip bubu1sk 1
<GRCtip>
fkinglag tipped bubu1sk 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<bubu1sk>
einstein seems to have harder tasks, it seems it's calculating them much longer :)
<bubu1sk>
and thank you fkinglag
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<apc>
today's I-didn't-go-to-the-grocery-store lunch consists of a spinach salad with a tomato, feta cheese, ranch dressing, and about half a pound of ground beef
<PenumbraDuFromag>
2 beef & bean burritos with a glass of water.. I'm pimpin' my lunch.
<PenumbraDuFromag>
(The 3 for a dolla' kind that you microwave)
<apc>
hehehe
<apc>
I think I might move my exhaust fan to inside the case. I'd lose my red LED glow tho. hafta wire some up
<mrtrousers>
Why por reward ETA keeps being pushed away?
<GRCB0T>
because you touch yourself at night.
<mrtrousers>
It says like 21 hours, then next day is still 21 hourse withoug any por.
<Bouowmx>
Good bot
<Peppernrino>
we were just making sure you're paying attentiopn
<Peppernrino>
we'll provide you with the REAL wallet now
<Peppernrino>
:D
<mrtrousers>
GRCBOT
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<mrtrousers>
Last por reward was the 10th of august
<mrtrousers>
And now it keeps pushing Estimated TIme Arrival away, why?
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<apc>
!stats
<fediverse>
apc, your !stats were sent via private message
<HViD>
!cpid 2c3439c58e4c4dd921aa408db00b84fb
<Peppernrino>
mrtrousers grcb0t is a bot.
<fediverse>
HViD, please check your PM for the !cpid result
<Peppernrino>
i made him say that.
<Peppernrino>
:P
<bubu1sk>
lol
<bubu1sk>
and yes, eobot i meant :)
<mrtrousers>
ANyway why does the wallet lie?
<customminer>
mrtrousers: estimation is an estimation not a guarantee
<HViD>
damnit... why cant fediverse see my cpid when I can find it in the NN?
<customminer>
mrtrousers: when you stake your dpor weight decreases too
<Bouowmx>
PoR for me happens randomly
<apc>
hvid erkan needs to add it so the bot knows who you are
<customminer>
HViD: because it's pulling the cpid data from my site which is behind a few days, brb - i'll update it!
<mrtrousers>
Well yea, but 21 hours vs 120 hours?
<Bouowmx>
Hold on for a minute for wallet to initialize so I can tell you my dates
<Bouowmx>
dates in which I receive PoR
<HViD>
apc - Erkan already added it
<apc>
oh
<apc>
well then refer to cm :)
<HViD>
but its also when I use !cpid <my-cpid>
<Peppernrino>
something needs to be wedged under the right side of that dell.
<Peppernrino>
and take that fucking piece of tape by your sub off...
<apc>
it's tied to the chair
<apc>
so it doesn't kill something
<apc>
I suspect
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
HViD: you get data
<bubu1sk>
!stats
<Bouowmx>
Peppernrino: that's a speaker.
<fediverse>
Oh, fellow Gridcoin enthusiast bubu1sk, sent the result via PM
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
and the NN you are not in because where I read it from is not yet uptodate
<HViD>
so I should blame Customminer for having laggy middleware? :)
<fkinglag>
yes
<Peppernrino>
speaker or sub, the tape is driving me crazy. it serves no purpose. lol
<Peppernrino>
does that tylenol bottle have a joint in it? i notice a lighter beside it.
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
HViD I have slapped the guy responsible for providing the data
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
and I have added more info to the text, so it is hopefully clearer
<HViD>
thanks a lot
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<Bouowmx>
mrtrousers: my last 10 PoR payments: 2016-08-10 23:42, 2016-08-10 21:40, 2016-08-10 18:59, 2016-08-09 20:48, 2016-08-06 10:18, 2016-07-31 20:09, 2016-07-26 09:42, 2016-07-26 08:28, 2016-07-25 19:57, 2016-07-25 17:24
<apc>
dammit I got tomato goo on my nice white shirt
<apc>
now nobody will ask me to the dance
<Peppernrino>
"the guy responsible for the data has been sacked."
<HViD>
!tip Erkan_Yilmaz 1
<GRCtip>
HViD tipped Erkan_Yilmaz 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
thx, HViD :-)
<fkinglag>
"the guy responsible for the sacking has been sacked.
<Peppernrino>
i bet i could find that facebook profile.
<HViD>
who runs fediverse?
<Peppernrino>
erkan
<mrtrousers>
DOes the wallet got to be opened? If you close it you stop recieving por rewards?
<apc>
who runs bartertown?
<HViD>
will go smoke and hope fediverse comes back to the party
<Peppernrino>
mrtrousers: your payments build up
<PenumbraDuFromag>
Masta' Blasta' own Bahtahhhtown
<Peppernrino>
they will enter your wallet once you unlock for staking
<apc>
:D
<Peppernrino>
you don't HAVE to keep it open all the time
<Peppernrino>
but you can
<Peppernrino>
!party
<GRCB0T>
i am partying.
<mrtrousers>
EVen if the wallet is closed for a few days?
<Peppernrino>
yep
<cbr>
<cyberkev1> NeuralMiner it was 498 when it came through half hour ago (instead of 484) so that page does update dynamically. Also thats made my stake a massive 731 due to the delay. could be burp, could be adding another 6 projects. who knows Act PPD hasnt updated until the stake clears
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<HViD>
!stats
<fediverse>
Oh, fellow Gridcoin enthusiast HViD, your !stats were sent via PM
<HViD>
still no luck - guess its more waiting for me
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
yes, but as said, as long as you see above some results, you are fine
<HViD>
just curious :)
<HViD>
how to lock/unlock the wallet?
<Tahvok>
HViD: click on lock/unlock?
<HViD>
But.. where is that button?
<HViD>
:)
<Tahvok>
Bottom left
<HViD>
it's not there
<HViD>
I've only seen it there once a few days ago
<HViD>
so just wondering if the option could be found somewhere else
<GRCB0T>
Title: Wallet Auto-unlock for staking - Gridcoin (at wiki.gridcoin.us)
<slimeball>
ty
<cbr>
and now have a 731 stake :)
<slimeball>
damnit , i hate using this machine... not that kinda hate but im using resources boinc wants!
<Tahvok>
Oh... now that button is back
<Tahvok>
I really have no idea what's going on :/
<cbr>
plus 35 odd burp work units spread across 8 hosts queued up
<slimeball>
sweet now just to find an app that checks if an application is running and setup a ghetto ass version of a crontab job in win 10
* cbr
suspects NeuralMiner held back cyberkev1's por payour for 4 days for hogging all the burp wu's
<NeuralMiner>
lol. i dont crunch burp.
<cbr>
gives massive boincstats credit (see link about 40 lines back)
<cbr>
how that relates to grc por not sure
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<cbr>
por seems more related to position in the team /mag project popularity etc
<NeuralMiner>
it's related to your RAC vs other users crunching the same project.
<NeuralMiner>
so it'll be relative.
<cbr>
with the max the same for all projects ?
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<HViD>
just created a BAM profile - will it populate cpid automatically or how does that work?
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<apc>
hvid yes
<apc>
tho it could take a day or so
<HViD>
so.. just wait again :)
<apc>
of solid, hardcore, unrelenting crunching
<HViD>
I'll go watch some Olympics and wait it out
<apc>
I've switched everything over to BAM to see if it's going to behave
<apc>
and once again it starts attaching projects I've detached
<apc>
grr.
<HViD>
so just to get this right - I should encrypt the wallet, lock it and update config with the autounlock thingy? Then it will be "safe" and I'll still be staking?
<mrtrousers>
What you think of ethereum? Whats it all about?
<cbr>
NeuralMiner: So basically search boincstats by rac and filter the gridcoin team members for each project and see your rac vs others
<cbr>
or is there a better whitelisted project search on the gridcoin utils ?
<NeuralMiner>
easier to just do it on the project page for me at least. log in, click my account, click on the team name, click active members (or something like that). should sort it by RAC.
<Mercosity>
Is there an new update for the windows wallet - I've got 3.5.7.2 is that the latest?
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<NeuralMiner>
7.4 Mercosity
<cbr>
still can't be automated easily. if it suspended projects or did nomorework dependant on the result it'd just pick one project that'd find its way to the top
<Mercosity>
Oh there's a 3.5.7.4?
<NeuralMiner>
yeah. they came out pretty quickly after each other.
<NeuralMiner>
cbr, yeah, i was thinking about that too.
<Mercosity>
That sneaked past me!!
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<Mercosity>
Have to update.
<cbr>
nm, you'd need to dedicate a host with 16 odd cpu's on a different/new account to join all whitelisted projects, let it run and see the results after a month
<cbr>
would let you see the least competitive/easiest to get higher relative rac
<NeuralMiner>
the problem with that is it's constantly changing.
<cbr>
but stoopidly went for the ones with higher rac thinking it was easier to get credit on those projects
<Mercosity>
Anyone running Yafu @ the moment?
<NeuralMiner>
i was, Mercosity
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<NeuralMiner>
lol cbr... unfortunately not.
<Mercosity>
NeuralMiner: How did it go. Still runing any?
<NeuralMiner>
i've moved most for now... i'm having issues with the 16t WUs taking several days to complete. trying to troubleshoot that. the smaller WUs seem to be going through fine though.
<cbr>
6 of those are new a week ago so shoyld give an indication by now
<Mercosity>
NeuralMiner: I seem to have a similar problem. The 8 CPU WUs seem to be no problem it's the $ & 2 CPU ones that run and run and stick @ 999.9987%
<NeuralMiner>
i just looked at mindmodeling myself. according to the whitelist leaderboard it's a pretty good return, but i just wasnt getting as many credits as i was hoping for.
<NeuralMiner>
exactly Mercosity .
<NeuralMiner>
if you look in the slots folder, you can see if it's actually still churning.
<Mercosity>
4 & 2 I meant to say
<NeuralMiner>
or dead.
<NeuralMiner>
look in the slot for the WU, and if the factor file hasnt been updated lately, it's dead.
<Mercosity>
NeuralMiner: Seem to go on & on. Did find out however that there is an amnesty for overrun of up to 5 days.
<NeuralMiner>
yeah, i've been going over the 5 day. haha.
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<NeuralMiner>
my rac has dropped almost in half because of the hung WUs, so i have to troubleshoot it a bit.
<caraka>
it made it easy to see if the grc/btc change was merely a reflection of btc chamges or actual fiat value changes
<customminer>
morning caraka
<fediverse>
morning, good people of the GRC world.
<caraka>
morena
<caraka>
just commenting on your new github issue
<HViD>
!stats
<customminer>
cool
<fediverse>
Dear HViD, please check your private message for the !stats result
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<customminer>
I've joined the boinc_dev mailinglist & started an email chain regarding the 4th gen credit system. David Anderson has already replied alongside another 4 devs :D
<GRCB0T>
Title: [boinc_dev] 4th Gen BOINC credit system (at lists.ssl.berkeley.edu)
<slimeball>
that was neat last night waking up to a burp gpu wu , with it not listed on either wiki's and other whitelists i saw as a gpu project... although that may be new enough the 58 GPU WU count sent could have been correct. But seems ATI/Nvidia and Intel all will run
<slimeball>
so weee! <3 burp , I am waiting going to start a project fart@home
<jamezz>
1 in line next WU for GPU sweet
<NeuralMiner>
customminer, aw yiss, this gon be gud.
<Mercosity>
I love when I generate a block!
<jamezz>
like Rubix cube?
<jamezz>
I haz saw + wood , making blocks 1000GRC pm
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<reddy1975>
!stats
<fediverse>
Dear reddy1975, please check your private message for the !stats result
<Mercosity>
customminer Well done, you've officially got the ball rolling now!
<customminer>
Mercosity: Thanks :)
<Mercosity>
customminer: Have we had any joy with the BOINC stats crowd visa vie security issues yet?
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<customminer>
Mercosity: not yet, not chased them up yet
<customminer>
Mercosity: Since the mumble hangout I launched the Gridcoin MPA on the BTS DEX
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<customminer>
I feel contacting BOINC project admins directly is the best approach regarding SSL
<Mercosity>
customminer: I know you've been 'burnin the candle at both ends' too forward of me. You've a lot on the go.
<customminer>
I'll try to get some reps from the BOINC project governance onto the hangout, a bit difficult though considering many haven't published visible contact details.
<customminer>
Mercosity: Nah not too forward, I could create a thread on the boincstats forum asking willy about his stance regarding projects with a lack of SSL encryption
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<Mercosity>
customminer: I'm not surprised. I've been 'trawling' the web to try and understand the broadly perceived view on possible security issues with BOINC and the projects. It does not seem to be good which is disappointing.
<customminer>
Mercosity: It's a bit dissapointing, but better to chase them up before we start voting them out - anyone not wanting to see a non-ssl project removed from the whitelist should reach out to the BOINC project admin requesting SSL support.
<NeuralMiner>
Sztaki is at 0 WUs to send. anyone running it?
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<Mercosity>
customminer: I think peppernrino was checking SSL stats on the white listed projects and maybe others during the end stages of the hangout. Do you know if he made a publishable list so we could all make a point of contacting the ones that we personally crunch?
<GRCB0T>
Title: Gridcoin Community Hangouts | Free Listening on SoundCloud (at soundcloud.com)
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
with !mumble you get more info
<customminer>
traderman: Peppernrino's working on its editing, it was 3 hours long haha!
<traderman>
i was a little bizi this weekend and could not attend, next weekend i will try to make it in
<customminer>
traderman: Did you listen to the first episode?
<traderman>
ye i think i got through most of it
<customminer>
cool :)
<traderman>
btw, what's the story on the electrum servers for the Coinomi mobile wallet?
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<customminer>
traderman: We tweeted @ coinomi last night, no reply yet.
<customminer>
traderman: I emailed the CEO about the coinomi servers a while back, no response.
<customminer>
traderman: They might be busy with the next release? They've got an iphone client in the works, perhaps they're making a large release soon?
<traderman>
they said that GRC would be in their next release if i remember correctly
<GRCB0T>
Title: grctest auf Twitter: "@CoinomiWallet Hey, can you provide an update regarding Gridcoin's integration? @GridcoinNetwork #BOINC #Gridcoin" (at twitter.com)
<customminer>
like & retweet, guys :D
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<NeuralMiner>
customminer, did you see the CPDN reply?
<traderman>
custom: the new Gridcoin mpa on openledger can only be borrowed and bought, you can't sell grc directly, right?
<customminer>
traderman: The MPA isn't related to openledger, it's available across the entire Bitshares platform - you can trade it via openledger/freedomledger/abgabc (new wallet - can't remember the exact name) and the standalone bitshares light wallet for your computer.
<GRCB0T>
Title: [Foundation proposal] 4 BTC to get Gridcoin added to CCEDK/Openledger - Exchanges, Services and Giveaways - CryptoCoinTalk (at cryptocointalk.com)
<customminer>
With integration to Openledger, we'll have the Open.GRC token that we will recieve when depositing GRC (our blockchain's token) onto the Bitshares network through the Openledger bridge - to which we can trade for any other asset (not just one or two like centralized exchanges) as well as utilise 3 web wallets, 2-3 mobile wallets and POS terminal software
<customminer>
(blockpay).
<NeuralMiner>
we already voted on the openledger integration, right? customminer
<customminer>
yep
<customminer>
like 3-4 weeks ago
<customminer>
Ronny requested payment about 11 days ago
<NeuralMiner>
are we just waiting on the foundation funds?
<customminer>
yep
<customminer>
wooo! I just got Rob's email, I was getting stuck in his spam filter (nightmare!)
<customminer>
ok, let's do this shit!
<NeuralMiner>
aw yiss.
<NeuralMiner>
between this and coinomi, we're livin that life.
<jamezz>
this makes me confused with Mercosity 5 year old Apple explanation of Gridcoin yesterday , now I am stuck back at page one saying wait wasn't the point not to use a ledger " ?
* jamezz
tokes
<jamezz>
Mercosity can I get an apple?
<traderman>
custom: great work buddy
<customminer>
NeuralMiner: Indeed, once we get onto Coinomi we should focus on getting shapeshift support. The Coinomi wallet has shapeshift functionality built in to exchange coins within the wallet, it should improve our chances of getting integrated.
<customminer>
NeuralMiner: Well, on the upside climateprediction is performing a full security audit, but on the downside their priority could be inspecting locks to server rooms instead of SSL at this point in time hah!
<NeuralMiner>
yeah, i dont really see that as being on their list for a security audit. at all.
<NeuralMiner>
and his PM to me wasnt anything like that.
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<NeuralMiner>
either way. he didnt seem that worried about losing crunchers.
<customminer>
Yeah, but on the other hand he's a forum moderator - is he a project admin?
<fediverse>
everyone, sit down, and enjoy the show
<traderman>
lol
<customminer>
traderman: Have you started using steem yet? Your forex trading blog posts would probably do quite well there
<traderman>
yeah i use steem
<customminer>
cool
* apc
shuts down all mining and crunching to prepare for fan reeeeeconfiguration
<traderman>
but unfortunately most voters don't have any meaningful weight
<apc>
gotta give it a min to cool off
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<traderman>
customminer: i was actually envisioning something like steem with the faq portion of the wallet, where people can ask q and other can upvote them and earn
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<customminer>
traderman: Yeah, but I've been making my gridcoin announcements over there and am building up voting power.
<traderman>
yeah, but it will take you a very long time and the Steem exchange rate is already dumping really hard
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<customminer>
traderman: I'm not cashing out, just throwing rewards back into voting weight to promote our content.
<customminer>
traderman: I wouldn't buy in because it appears to be in a bubble, but it's pretty neat for pushing our content to multiple crypto communities
<traderman>
custom: its a cool concept, its much more fun than reddit/twitter
<HViD>
!stats
<fediverse>
Oh, fellow Gridcoin enthusiast HViD, the !stats result was sent via PM
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<MrControll>
...how many different bots/scripts do we have?
<NeuralMiner>
there's been a few long ones... 6/30 to 7/9. guessing she's still doing it manually.
<customminer>
Hope katiee returns, I've not spoken to her in IRC in well over a month now.
<NeuralMiner>
yeah, losing that pool would not be good. there's a ton of poeple hooked into it.
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<customminer>
On the other hand, pool users could fall back to suchflex
<customminer>
We should look into creating an open source pool from the ground up
<NeuralMiner>
yeah, but that takes away the wallet.
<customminer>
suchflex? yeah
<NeuralMiner>
and they have to redeem their flex coins of flex tokens or whatever.
<NeuralMiner>
or^
<customminer>
NeuralMiner: The suchflex CEO showed up for the 2nd hangout and gave a talk about suchflex, I've changed my mind regarding suchflex.
<NeuralMiner>
yeah, i think building one might be something to look into. did she do it all from scratch herself? or borrow from other pools?
<customminer>
NeuralMiner: I believe it's just a modified BOINC account manager.
<NeuralMiner>
interesting.
<NeuralMiner>
i'll have to give it a listen when it gets posted.
<NeuralMiner>
still think they're taking a huge cut.
<customminer>
NeuralMiner: Yeah, 20% is quite a lot, but on the other hand they're a startup company going through a startup incubator, they've got two employees and they've created their own simple gui
<NeuralMiner>
also, they have projects like rederfarming.net and weather@home listed... those arent whitelisted as far as i know.
<NeuralMiner>
the GUI really is impressive though.
<customminer>
NeuralMiner: I believe those are mistakes - renderfarming is burp, no? weather@home is climateprediction?
<NeuralMiner>
gotta be.
<NeuralMiner>
i'm curious how they know which project is the most profitable. that'd be great.
<NeuralMiner>
they also mine different coins, correct?
<customminer>
NeuralMiner: I asked that exact question, they basicly said they have like 10 different devices they benchmark projects with & it's trial and error. Not efficient, I'll probably send them an email regarding host.xml.gz files & their use in profitability calculators.
<customminer>
NeuralMiner: Yes.
<traderman>
the suchflex guys need to tell their users that they are mining GRC!
<customminer>
NeuralMiner: Storj, gridcoin and a couple POW coins.
<customminer>
traderman: Their suchflex page now has gridcoin and boinc logos
<customminer>
traderman: perhaps they may now know what the logos are though.. this is something you could suggest in the future, but mind it's only the two guys behind suchflex
<traderman>
custom: they added the logos but i bet their users have no idea that suchflex is taking a hefty cut
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<NeuralMiner>
their app does something wonky with the boinc client it seems.
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<customminer>
traderman: Idk, it's pretty clear on their website that they're taking a 20% commision.
<customminer>
traderman: They're not hiding the fees from their userbase
<apc>
ok moved the big fan to inside the case. had to remove the pull of the push-pull for the cpu cooler tho. burning in now :/
<traderman>
custom: I stand corrected, I didn't see their 3 different acc types
<NeuralMiner>
interesting. looks like they make a second install of boinc on the c drive instead of programdata.
<mrtrousers>
..
<mrtrousers>
grc rules
<NeuralMiner>
i'm out. catch yall later.
<mrtrousers>
I just arrived.
<mrtrousers>
traderman i know a quiet a bit about trading, why?
<traderman>
you mean forex?
<mrtrousers>
futures, stocks, a bit about fores. why?
<mrtrousers>
forex
<traderman>
i was thinking of offering a trade copying service payable in GRC
<mrtrousers>
like autotrader?
<traderman>
i trade and subscribers get to copy my trades in their acc for a monthly fee in GRC
<mrtrousers>
Mimicking your trades?
<mrtrousers>
Would subscribers get the ideas and enter the trades themselves or it would be auto?
<GRCB0T>
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<mrtrousers>
Oh lol, i regretted putting that link instantly, but its funny.
<mrtrousers>
traderman i think grc community would be mainly interested in grc trading..
<mrtrousers>
but that would only be posiblo in the grc-btc pair i guess
<mrtrousers>
a grc fund, that may attract liquidity to grc
<traderman>
well, i don't know anyone who isn't interested in making some extra cash on the side, i guess we'll find out what the interest is once i post some trading statements so subscribers get an idea of what to expect
<traderman>
the grc fund will come later when and if Rob ever gets the GRC Finance project off the ground