<apc>
all I had to do was take a nap. naps fix everything.
<fkinglag>
\o/
<Mercosity>
You got problems, I got problems. Still syvcung wallet.
<jamezz>
werd
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<apc>
have you tried taking a nap?
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<Mercosity>
I'm gonad go to bed shortly.
<Bouowmx>
What are your experiences with Windows 10 Anniversary Update? Went flawlessly on 3 computers, 1 computer coming out with broken keyboard input
<Mercosity>
gonad What!!
<apc>
none of my boxen have pulled it yet
<apc>
just got "feature update"
<apc>
!stats
<Mercosity>
Win 10 no problems I get it to run on machines it shouldn't. This Tosh LT only vista capable.
<fediverse>
your next staked block will get you: 31 GRC (research owed)
<jamezz>
id havent checked , its windows.. and i assume it has same as linux log files
<jamezz>
i might have to move it to a linux machine , this is rediculace... i have been told to post in forum and talk to rob
<aybiss>
that's pretty warm apc
<jamezz>
i was working and setup.. for like 3 days.. then it poped back to investor , same time as it did to Mercosity i believe and a few others.
<apc>
I've not run it in linny but yeah, it has debug.log in win
<jamezz>
NOW tonight a new error going across all windows systems... and 1 linux... i havent got it on 2 other linux and 3 arm.
<jamezz>
but i can give that error sec
<jamezz>
GridCoin.co Pool: Notice from BOINC
<jamezz>
Message from account manager: acct_mgr_request.xml not valid XML!
<jamezz>
across every client , that was windows manager / linux box...
<jamezz>
:(
<apc>
you get that in wallet or boinc?
<jamezz>
everything is breaking.. but im with it for the long fault.. that was boinc
<jamezz>
im not sure why the wallet crashes... i thought last night i heard the same tone i did when the first time it took the beacon deposit
<apc>
I got that before in boinc, but it went away when I went solo, so I don't know what caused it exactly
<jamezz>
I am trying to pool
<jamezz>
it was solo , i got it pool , then it went solo now fixing
<jamezz>
and i think Katiee's site is going to hell even further... i mean heck it doesnt have some whitelisted projects such as the last team challange.
<jamezz>
I hope I can join future ones , but i see some that are not listed
<jamezz>
anyways dinner before i fix
<jamezz>
i gotta fix the cache on 2 linux boxes...i even doubled the hdd.. rebooted... but i have 4 jobs.. it wont pull no more...
<jamezz>
says cache full or job not highest priority
<apc>
I just reloaded deb on a box and default it set the swap = to ram, 4gb
<apc>
if by cache it means swap
<apc>
I'm not familiar with linux boinc reporting yet
<xXUnRealXx>
fak with the temp so high and humid I'm having a hard time keeping my GPUs Below 75c.... I think I need to put everything on Raisers... fN grrrrrr.... just as I'm getting my mag back up looks like I'm gonna loose it again in a week ,,, Hope ev1 is having a better day
<apc>
my window duct fan comes tomorrow :D
<apc>
120mm, 110cfm
<apc>
I'm still figuring out how to attach it to my case
<apc>
prolly gonna fab a manifold to sit on top
<xXUnRealXx>
im thinking of gettine a few Delta Extremes 256 CFM 5500rpm but they are 60$ a pop
<apc>
so the water rad still gets fresh air
<apc>
damn that'll vent the room
<xXUnRealXx>
I have rad on all too but with the humidity and heat is not enough
<xXUnRealXx>
so much work to keep things getting better n better. im lovn it lol
<apc>
yeah I set the A/C to 78 when I leave in the morning and come home for lunch with it blasting
<xXUnRealXx>
when I Temp I mean in Celsius im a dump Canadian u know
<apc>
and I'm on the 2nd floor of a 5floor apt building, in morning shade
<apc>
yah I know. 9/5C+32, eh :P
<xXUnRealXx>
u mounted 2 16" 1200rpm Fans in window to vent out and set oune on top of rack to vent the hot gpu air, ac running in other 2 rooms so it forces the cold air in to my room :) this way no condensation. I just need MOVE SUCTION
<xXUnRealXx>
U = I
<apc>
maybe duct it instead of venting the room
<apc>
that's what I'm doing
<xXUnRealXx>
but till my voltage meters don't come I really cant do much else but wait, cos i'll blow fuses. need to see whats doing what and stage it better to much wattage on 1 30Amp
<apc>
30 amp fawk
<xXUnRealXx>
if I start running wires through out the house I mighd as well move out cos ill be kicked to the curb
<apc>
hang a solar panel out yer window :P
<xXUnRealXx>
they the fuck expensive
<apc>
and being homeless is cheap
<xXUnRealXx>
u know how many 1080s u can buy for that $
<apc>
a typical performance gpu is only what 100, 150w?
<apc>
150w poly panel, $200USD
<apc>
of course you'll only be able to crunch for three hours a day
<xXUnRealXx>
I have about 3800watts on 1 line cos plugging anything else blows a fuse and 30amp only takes 3860 I believe
<apc>
peak. you're gonna start a fire
<apc>
I've melted shit on less
<xXUnRealXx>
but till my Digital watt meters come I can only estimate
<xXUnRealXx>
i got good wires industrial cords
<apc>
surge strips?
<xXUnRealXx>
on each pc
<apc>
they melt :)
<xXUnRealXx>
these dont
<xXUnRealXx>
cos me 120$ a pop
<apc>
ah ok
<xXUnRealXx>
back in the days
<apc>
20% margin tho to be safe
<xXUnRealXx>
lol not your $1 store power bar
<xXUnRealXx>
safety 1st
<xXUnRealXx>
dead man cant help humanity
<apc>
<--- eng tech, mfg director, safety nerd
<xXUnRealXx>
well time for a nap b4 work again
<xXUnRealXx>
peace
<apc>
zzz
<xXUnRealXx>
!rainactive 21.84797959
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! xXUnRealXx rained 1.82066497 GRC on active users customminer, fkinglag, AJG, Bouowmx, stevescoins, GRCB0T, apc, jamezz, d_o_c, aybiss, bob21, vega40k! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<apc>
boingoinginginging
<xXUnRealXx>
now i can sleep better lol
<aybiss>
imma leave the pool and devote all my CPU time to lurking here!
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<Phay>
vomit
<Phay>
I ded fkinglag
<apc>
!tip aybiss 1
<GRCtip>
apc tipped aybiss 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Phay>
feel dizzy. had to look at something close up. I need a needle
<aybiss>
\o/
<apc>
and you get a grc! and you get a grc! and you get a grc!
<aybiss>
hahahah
<Phay>
hey all
<apc>
phay wtf you talkin bout
<Phay>
uh.. uh.. idk I'm dizzy.
<Phay>
I get dizzy when I have to concentrate on a really small object with my eyes.
<apc>
masturbating again? you'll go blind, you know.
<Phay>
blind?
<Phay>
blah
<Phay>
just feel exhausted. I wanna do stuff, but I feel uncomfortable
* Phay
complains complains complains
<apc>
tz?
<Phay>
what should I eat?
<Phay>
granola
<apc>
do you have any presbyopia?
<apc>
do you wear reading glasses?
<Phay>
I have glasses
<Phay>
what is..
<Phay>
presbyopia
<greo>
morning :)
<Phay>
hi stranger
<Phay>
:P
<apc>
farsightedness resulting from age
<apc>
needing reading glasses
<Phay>
no. I'm fine. this sorta dizziness is if.. like try bringing your finger close to your eye.. like.. 3 inches away and focus in on it for like 45 sec
<Phay>
that sorta thing
<Phay>
It's clear, but I'm concentrating too hard
<apc>
well... don't do that.
<apc>
use a magnifier :P
<Phay>
I was looking a spot on my shoulder
<Phay>
so turn head
<Phay>
:V
<apc>
can you bite your ear?
<Phay>
yes
<apc>
are you sure?
<Phay>
lol
<Phay>
no
<apc>
:D
<Phay>
I need food. I wanna stay up, but my body is like "fuck you Phay"
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<apc>
then sleep
<apc>
imma bout to sleep
<apc>
way past my bedtime
<Phay>
auto correct for phay is pharmakodynamische
<WhitesoxCrypto>
moaning gridsters!!
<Phay>
I always process that in my head as hamsters
<apc>
well that makes sense
<Phay>
whitesoxcrypto
<Phay>
did you.. tip me a while back?
<WhitesoxCrypto>
nope...
<Phay>
for some reason... it must have been a dream
<apc>
phay secretly believes he's a cow, and that people tip him in his sleep
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<Phay>
idk why.. in the dream it had a history of who tipped me
<Phay>
and you were on there, albiet a really low number
<Phay>
*for a
<Phay>
lol apc
<Phay>
just got that
<apc>
I dreamed last night I was part of a mission to mars. we got attacked by some sort of martian pathogen
<apc>
it was a really cool dream. wish I could remember more of it
<Phay>
you should write a book on it
<Phay>
joke. apc. what is your human age?
<apc>
I could do that, if I could remember more of it
<apc>
33.9
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<Phay>
whoa. so is Whitesoxcrypto
<apc>
does that mean I have to kill whitesoxcrypto?
<apc>
there can be only one?
<Phay>
if you don't like family, then sure
<Phay>
highlander
<Phay>
do you have the demoman sword?
<Phay>
Demo Man
<apc>
I have a penis. it can be pretty destructive.
<apc>
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand I sleep.
<Phay>
damn son
<Phay>
sexy
<Phay>
yeah. "sleep"
<Phay>
Peppernrino. do you know if the average macbook (pro) would be any good at mining? wondering more about heat......
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<Quezacoatl>
gmornning
<Phay>
:O gridcoin jesus. sup
<Phay>
Quezacoatl. May I ask you 2 questions please?
<Quezacoatl>
Sire
<Quezacoatl>
sure
<Phay>
do you know if the average macbook (pro) would be any good at mining? wondering about heat.
<Phay>
The second question is do you know if you could resummon "GRCidle" in gridcoin-irpg
<Quezacoatl>
Well I never had any kind of Apple hardware
<Phay>
good. Same
<Phay>
a friend is giving it to me
<Phay>
so I was curious on potential stability
<Peppernrino>
“Because the United States is the leader in 4G LTE deployment, many believe that it will be able to maintain that leadership by moving quickly to 5G by 2025.”
<Peppernrino>
that's pretty sad.
<Phay>
wow
<Phay>
that's pathetic
<Peppernrino>
yeah
<Phay>
who said that. ATT?
<Quezacoatl>
Trial and error, monitor the temperature. Modern Processory put down the frequency if too hot
<Peppernrino>
they're calling 2025 quick
<Phay>
kk. agreed
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<Quezacoatl>
And regarding GRCidle -> tweet sepulcher
<Peppernrino>
the cabbie gave me a macbook air. the "nice" ne
<Peppernrino>
one*
<Phay>
eh.
<Peppernrino>
quad core bruh
<Phay>
huh. that stable?
<Peppernrino>
the fan doesn't spin. that's a problem.
<Phay>
well. I think it's fanless lol
<Peppernrino>
they work like snot, man.
<Peppernrino>
nope
<Peppernrino>
fan
<Peppernrino>
i took it apart
<Phay>
:I
<Peppernrino>
duh
<Phay>
daf
<Peppernrino>
there IS a 256GB m.2 sata in there.... ;)
<Phay>
well. if you take it apart.. just take out the mobo and BOOM
<Phay>
is that possible? I'd do that for my laptop[s]
<Peppernrino>
yeah/ not sure if i'm going to have to replace the whole thing, or just the fan
<Peppernrino>
i
<Peppernrino>
'm not getting display either
<Peppernrino>
could be fucked.
<Peppernrino>
but
<Phay>
hmm...
<Peppernrino>
if it costs me like $400 to fix it. done.
<Phay>
any display adapter on it?
<Phay>
gawd no
<Peppernrino>
yeah hdmi
<Peppernrino>
it doesn't work like that though. it has to boot first
<Phay>
$400 = fuck that new comp
<Peppernrino>
buck a macbook...
<Peppernrino>
people would just innnately respect me.
<Peppernrino>
lol
<Phay>
lol
<Peppernrino>
but*
<Peppernrino>
you know how it is
<Peppernrino>
see some gad about town
<Peppernrino>
strolling with confidence with his overpriced gadget
<Phay>
*shrug*
<Peppernrino>
and then, you see a baby drowning in the river
<Peppernrino>
you don't think
<Peppernrino>
you jump in and save it
<Phay>
you think throw your laptop at it
<Peppernrino>
that actually happened like yesterday in canada
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<caraka>
Quezacoatl: the armhf builds for both daily and stable are still in the build queue! They haven't even started! Sorry about that. I'll check again in a bit.
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<customminer>
Morning
<customminer>
Upgrade hype! :D
<GRDMINER>
good morning
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<mrtrousers>
Hello
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<Quezacoatl>
back
<Quezacoatl>
my own compilation did not work out :(
<mrtrousers>
Im trying to install gridcoin in ubuntu 16.04, would someone be able to help?
<mrtrousers>
I installed boinc and all, but the gridcoin guide for ubuntu sees outdated or something..
<Quezacoatl>
whats the problem mrtrousers ?
<mrtrousers>
I got stuck at the build gridcoin daemon..
<Quezacoatl>
what error message is displayed?
<Tahvok>
Morning!
<mrtrousers>
fatal error db_cxx
<mrtrousers>
i was just copy pasting the commands..
<Tahvok>
Quezacoatl: you tried to compile on arm?
<mrtrousers>
No i have amd64 i reckon
<Quezacoatl>
Tahvok yes, but not on arch yet
<Quezacoatl>
mrtrousers did you follow the guide exactly?
<mrtrousers>
Yes
<Tahvok>
Quezacoatl: and, it still didn't work?
<mrtrousers>
Yes
<Quezacoatl>
Tahvok right, I am on 3572 with a custom build (not the guideline) and stuck with orphans at 602412
<Tahvok>
mrtrousers: what guide did you follow?
<mrtrousers>
For example, liboost1.55 commandso dont work either, its enough with libboost and you get the 1.58 version which works finer ive read.
<caraka>
I sounds like you've figured it out mrtrousers
<mrtrousers>
kind of.. with a little help from my friends.
<Quezacoatl>
;)
<mrtrousers>
It says cpumining= true... Can i add gpumining=true?
<Tahvok>
caraka: woaa, what time is it caraka?
<Quezacoatl>
no, grc does not use gpu
<Tahvok>
didn't think you were still here
<caraka>
for me 21:18 Fri
<caraka>
Not too late, just disracted by Fri night laziness. :P
<Tahvok>
Wow.. I thought it's sleep time for you already
<Quezacoatl>
caraka would you be so kind to try syncing your odroid? maybe you see the problem and can give rob more hints than I can
<Quezacoatl>
I can only upload debug logs ^^
<Tahvok>
mrtrousers: I have no idea where you've got that config
<caraka>
Quezacoatl: I manged to upgrade straight away without problems. However, the armhf builds have yet to start for stable or daily - still say 1 hour
<Tahvok>
mrtrousers: I have nothing like that in my conf file
<mrtrousers>
what does it look like?
<caraka>
mrtrousers got that bais config from the wiki - and is supposed to change the parameters as instructed
<Quezacoatl>
caraka ok, but my own compiled version did not wokr :(
<Tahvok>
You can copy mine, just fill the missing values, and make sure boincdatadir is correct
<Tahvok>
Probably it should be /var/lib/boinc-client for ubuntu
<Tahvok>
caraka can confirm
<caraka>
If you are on ubuntu, you can delete the boincdatadir line if boinc is installed in teh default place - which is /var/lib/boinc-client
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<caraka>
/var/lib/boinc-client is hardcoded into the wallet as the default nix directory
<Tahvok>
Oh yeah, forgot that there's a default for that
<caraka>
which is why Tahvok needs to declare it
<Tahvok>
Also forgot to update aur -_-" Gonna do this now
<caraka>
because arch has a different default for boinc - am I correct?
<caraka>
^default directory
<Tahvok>
caraka: yes
<Tahvok>
I always thought if it's possible to create 2 default..
<Tahvok>
There are many more distros that use /var/lib/boinc as the path
<Mercosity>
!block
<Tahvok>
Probably some check if the dir exist should be fine. Check for the first, if not there, check the second
<GRCB0T>
626552
<fediverse>
total Gridcoin blocks = 626552
<mrtrousers>
I used /var/lib/boinc-client/
<caraka>
It's only hardcoded that way becuse Rob does all his testing on ubuntu
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
caraka: can't say. I don't think I have ran the basic tests, to judge if it's a good build, only started it up
<caraka>
no worries Erkan
<caraka>
It built and installed seamlessly for me
<mrtrousers>
btw what are all the nodes?
<mrtrousers>
do users set them up?
<Tahvok>
caraka: how is the first time configuration created? Is there some template?
<KatBot>
GridCoin.co: RPC Failed with status code 0
<KatBot>
Gridcoin Asia Block Explorer: 626553
<Tahvok>
I could try creating a patch to put the correct dir in the conf file
<mrtrousers>
Ok the wallet is downloading the blockchain
<Tahvok>
mrtrousers: Good luck! Keep us updated if you have any problems
<Mercosity>
Good luck.
<mrtrousers>
Gridcoin is a great project. I remember writing a mail to satoshi in 2011 about using bitcoin computing power for something useful instead of hashing proof of work. Never got answered though.
<mrtrousers>
Thanks. :)
<mrtrousers>
And now finding this is great. I have some questions though..
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<mrtrousers>
What are the nodes? Isnt every client a node, kind of?
<caraka>
mrtrousers: one step at a atime. get your wallet synced and your boinc cpid recognized
<Peppernrino>
you don't need one lol typo
<Tahvok>
Peppernrino: didn't think I could run just a node and not a full wallet
<Peppernrino>
yeah.
<mrtrousers>
but i hae 1_58 and dont know wher it is
<Tahvok>
I have a server I could turn on a node on it
<Peppernrino>
security..
<Peppernrino>
maybe not at your house
<caraka>
If you used the PPA mrtrousers, don;t wporry about boost. It's all good
<Peppernrino>
colocate?
<mrtrousers>
ok
<Peppernrino>
i didn't use the ppa
<Tahvok>
Peppernrino: is there some guide for creating the node
* Peppernrino
is very rebel
<caraka>
which ubuntu are you running mrtrousers?
<Peppernrino>
!node
* Peppernrino
shrugs
<Peppernrino>
worth a shot
<Peppernrino>
i could search the chat.
<Peppernrino>
wha am i looking for? i'm so wrecked rn
<Peppernrino>
node creatiopn
<Peppernrino>
ask neuralminer. he done did it.
<Peppernrino>
therwe were issues, i believe.
<mrtrousers>
I wanted to ask your opinion about other cryptos that do useful stuff... Aka Curecoin Foldincoin and primecoin.. What are your views on them?
<Peppernrino>
haha. i'm setting up nodes. the snapshot doesnt seem to work with that for some reason.
<Peppernrino>
""
<Quezacoatl>
mrtrousers good idea but Gridcoin covers all their scientific fields and much more
<Quezacoatl>
Peppernrino what exactly does not work?
<Quezacoatl>
syncing?
<mrtrousers>
Well thats the advantage i see in gridcoin that you can do many projects. And if one project is gone there always might be new ones.
<Peppernrino>
2016-07-07T22:39:10 <NeuralMiner> well customminer, script failed on debian during the user creation, so i'll switch back to ubuntu. at least that's tested out.
<mrtrousers>
Was gridcoin the first of those useful coins?
<Peppernrino>
nah
<Peppernrino>
it's just the most useful.
<Peppernrino>
hopefully this is the end of the road and we can retire off of noobs
<mrtrousers>
When you are in a faucet.. Is your computer working for the faucet?
<mrtrousers>
I mean instead of doing it for your own client?
<caraka>
A faucet is just giving you free coins - usually for something in exchange, like your email address, sometimes for free. Only if you join a pool will you be crunching for another cpid other than your own
<Mercosity>
Night night.
<caraka>
nn Mercosity
<Quezacoatl>
gn8
<mrtrousers>
mmm. Can they get my email from my gridcoin adress?
<caraka>
or maybe you were farewelling Peppernrino? :P
<caraka>
No they cannot mrtrousers
<Quezacoatl>
aawww it was not a good idea to run make on 4 / 4 cores :D No reaction at all
<Mercosity>
Sorry me saying nite to peppernrino.
<caraka>
And those three above will not ask either
<caraka>
others might
<mrtrousers>
cryptospout wants all my data :(
<Peppernrino>
you can give them your addressses
<Peppernrino>
they're public
<Quezacoatl>
mrtrousers you wish to go solo right?
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<Quezacoatl>
and not becoming member of a pool?
<mrtrousers>
I think so, im not sure. I mined a bit in a pool and then forgot, and then the pool was gone and i have no idea where those satoshis went..
<Quezacoatl>
-.-
<Quezacoatl>
If you go solo you just need one faucet, http://pool.gridcoin.us/Faucet.aspx . it will pay some GRC that you can start once your CPID is fully published
<GRCB0T>
Title: Gridcoin Pool (at pool.gridcoin.us)
<Quezacoatl>
When did you start BOINCing?
<Mercosity>
I am having so many problems syncing. I have downloaded blocks for third time in 12 hours. All started with a fail in diagnostics. In diagnostics 2nd down - Find CPID puts a strange CPID in 8b49434ecadb6acfc955e3991853890b. This is not my CPID. 3rd down - Verify CPID is valid says - CPID not part of team gridcoin. Total RAC for teamgricoin below 10
<Mercosity>
0. No projects on team gridcoin.
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
what does your debug.log show, Mercosity ?
<mrtrousers>
A few years ago i mined a bit, researching bitcoin, etc.. Never thought it would skyrocket, in fact thought 10 to 1 was alread overpriced.
<Mercosity>
I'll look
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
Mercosity: look at last 30 lines or so
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<Quezacoatl>
Mercosity try "execute resetcpids"
<Mercosity>
Tried that and no go.
<mrtrousers>
Doing the math was barely covering electricity and didnt understand the proof of work. Thought proof of work might as well be something useful, which maybe hashing sha it is, im not sure.
<Quezacoatl>
list cpids shows what?
<mrtrousers>
Anyway, so i swapped bitcoin for folding home, and folded for a bit.
<GRCB0T>
Title: Gridcoin Asia Block Explorer (at explorer.gridcoin.asia)
<caraka>
it takes about 36 hours to get a brand new wallet sorted out. It's a bit painful, but security of the coin demands it
<caraka>
we'll talk you through it
<Mercosity>
Trying to sync at moment. My wallet only showing transactions from 7/15/16 and my balance is far lower than it should be. List CPIDS shows all my solo and correct CPID.
<mrtrousers>
It's the blockchain downloading?
<caraka>
yes
<caraka>
syncing as we say
<mrtrousers>
Addres is not found yet on the explorer
<mrtrousers>
So from the "useful coins" you think gridcoin is the best?
<caraka>
I wouldn;t be here if I didn't. :P
<Mercosity>
Which is better, more or less nodes? To node or not to node, that's the question.
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
!beacon
<fediverse>
When you advertise a beacon, the Gridcoin network knows of your existence. This info is saved in the !superblock
<fediverse>
Advertise the beacon from the wallet's debug menu with: execute advertisebeacon
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
greo see above
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<Quezacoatl>
The more nodes a coin has the more secure it is
<greo>
k
<Mercosity>
Ok.
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
what about 1 user controling the majority of them ?
<Quezacoatl>
thats no problem as long as he does not control the majority of coins
<Mercosity>
That's a good question.
<caraka>
shouldn't matter, they are only jumping off points for the blockchain. All of the wallets cover that worry
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
if I control the majority of the nodes, more traffic goes through mine, ergo I can delay or kick some specific wallets, especially when I know which have lots of influence on block creation
<caraka>
you would have to control over 50% of the wallets, not just the nodes
<GRCB0T>
Title: Transaction and Proof Methods Used in Block Chain Technology Bitcoin and Gridcoin - YouTube (at www.youtube.com)
<Quezacoatl>
grc is based on POS
<Quezacoatl>
So the more coins you have (plus the more magnitude yu have) the more blocks you will get
<Mercosity>
So, To node or not to node, that's the question.
<mrtrousers>
How much coin do you need to start?
<Quezacoatl>
mrtrousers for solo mining 2 GRC
<Quezacoatl>
otherwise you wont be able to send a beacon
<mrtrousers>
beacon?
<Quezacoatl>
ive tried it with 1 ;)
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
in theory, Quezacoatl
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
but for a block to be safe, you need 110 confirmations
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
when I control many nodes, I might delay until 110 or less until mine gets first
<Quezacoatl>
the beacon is the message to the nwtwork" here I am, pay me"
<greo>
it needs my CPID in the client for sending the beacon
<greo>
and it only shows in the boinc site for now
<greo>
"CPID" : "INVESTOR",
<greo>
"Beacon" : "INVESTORS_CANNOT_SEND_BEACONS"
<Quezacoatl>
greo what does the diagnostics utility tell you?
<Quezacoatl>
klick advanced -> dignostics
<Mercosity>
Wallet added one more transaction 7/17/16. Still syncing.
<greo>
Quezacoatl: total RAC for the team is bellow 100 :)
<Mercosity>
That should tell you everything working.
<Quezacoatl>
greo which hardware do you use in which projects?
<greo>
CPID has RAC: failed
<greo>
heheh.. i just ran an experiment with my tablet app on adnroid
<greo>
android*
<Quezacoatl>
well that might need some time
<greo>
today my first taks has almost finished (97%) and an error interupted :(
<greo>
there are two tasks running at once :)
<caraka>
Quezacoatl: what's the password for that image you linked for me the other day?
<caraka>
the odroid default
<caraka>
I'm going to start the sync and go to bed. :P
<Quezacoatl>
I think its odroid/odroid or root/root
<mrtrousers>
Is it safe to reveal your cpid?
<caraka>
yes, mrtrousers it's a public cpid
<greo>
so how can i check my RAC ?
<greo>
i think i saw it somewhere
<Quezacoatl>
open the BOINC manager, update the projects and see average work done
<Mercosity>
Finally some more old transactions coming in. Maybe I've cracked it?
<greo>
Quezacoatl: thanks i was looking for it in the website
<Quezacoatl>
greo, also possible.
<greo>
there it is
<Quezacoatl>
Mercosity as long as the block number is rising, you are syncing
<greo>
Recent average credit RAC (according to SETI@Home)27.95484
<greo>
Recent average credit RAC (according to BOINCstats)9.85754
<greo>
so it needs some more time ;) you're right
<Quezacoatl>
greo maybe you should add more computing power or change to the pool, only with android you probably you wont be able to get over the threshold of 1 magnitude
<Mercosity>
Yeah I know. That was happening before but I was getting no balance or tranactions coming through at all then. Now i am.
<Mercosity>
*s
<greo>
Quezacoatl yes i know.. i was participating with the laptop (the only other option i've got) but it's getting too hot and busy ... maybe i can separate just 50% of it's cpu.... but i have no gpu...
<Mercosity>
Seems to picing them up slowly but surely.
<Mercosity>
*k
<Quezacoatl>
greo yes you can also set it to 1 core. If you have 2 cores you set it on 50% cpu usage, if you have 4 then you set it on 25%
<Mercosity>
TThrottle.
<greo>
Quezacoatl yep two cores :) i can try... again
<Quezacoatl>
caraka did that work?
<Quezacoatl>
otherwise I advise you to join the pool
<Quezacoatl>
@ greo
<Mercosity>
!block
<GRCB0T>
626593
<fediverse>
total Gridcoin blocks = 626593
<Mercosity>
Gettin' there.
<greo>
Quezacoatl: just to put the tick in Advanced config. for 'pool mining' ?
<fediverse>
- it's easier for newcomers to get started, e.g. you get faster GRC this way (instead of longer waiting time for solo mining)
<fediverse>
- disadvantages: 5% fee; not every BOINC project addable; you don't get pool rain; your BOINC work is attributed to the pool, not under your name; you can't vote in Gridcoin polls
<GRCB0T>
Title: GridCoin.co Pool (beta) (at pool.gridcoin.co)
<greo>
i see
<KatBot>
GridCoin.co: RPC Failed with status code 0
<GRCB0T>
Title: GridCoin.co Pool (beta) (at pool.gridcoin.co)
<mrtrousers>
I have another question. Couldnt this have been built on top of bitcoin?
<Quezacoatl>
What do you mean?
<mrtrousers>
Im not sure. LIke using their blockchain instead of creatin a new one. I guess it would eat all processing power into hashing.. BUt then i saw foldingcoin and something called counterparty.. WHat you think of it?
<Quezacoatl>
I dont know counterparty, foldingcoin uses part of proof of work whichis very wasteful
<Quezacoatl>
thats why GRC is a fork of blackcoin which is a fork of peercoin which started with proof of stake
<Mercosity>
Funny - Wallet suddenly dropped to only 2 connections from 8.
<mrtrousers>
Do you do other cryptos?
<caraka>
Quezacoatl: armhf builds are complete in both stable and daily PPAs
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
!apocalypse is near Mercosity
<fediverse>
sell all your GRC now, soon we'll have another case like Cryptsy, Bitcoinica, Shapeshift, Bitfinex, MtGox :-(
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
thanks, caraka
<caraka>
don't over analyse it mrtrousers. Until you are synced you will see some strange shit. Only worry if it has zero connections for some time.
<Mercosity>
Back at 6 again - why?
<Mercosity>
Back at 8 again - why?
<caraka>
connections?
<Quezacoatl>
ok thanks caraka
<Quezacoatl>
mrtrousers I only use BTC for GRC trading, nothig else.
<caraka>
I'm waiting for my odroid to update so I can install wallet and fo to bed. :P
<Mercosity>
!block
<GRCB0T>
626598
<fediverse>
total GRC blocks = 626598
<KatBot>
GridCoin.co: RPC Failed with status code 0
<KatBot>
Gridcoin Asia Block Explorer: 626600
<Mercosity>
Connections are fluctuating up and down but blocks are still counting up.
<Quezacoatl>
Mercosity then you are good to go
<Mercosity>
@ 620392.
<mrtrousers>
I dont use btc. Lol, I wish i found my satoshi. But as a financial system it does see robust and it was the first coin.
<mrtrousers>
Then the others where too much like copycats, so i stayed off. But those "useful coins", i like them.
<Quezacoatl>
caraka thanks for caring about arm, I will post debug logs of all combinations I can build here to support rob in finding errors
<Mercosity>
Now we're suckin' diesel. More transactions!
<mrtrousers>
Another thing that bugs me is the name, gridcoin its too much like greedcoin..
<Quezacoatl>
oO
<Quezacoatl>
how that?
<mrtrousers>
It sounds the same, im thinking if it ever reaches a wider audience..
<Quezacoatl>
It will, and people will think about the grid and not about greed ^^ Are you native english speaker?
<Quezacoatl>
The pronounciation is different
<mrtrousers>
mmm. not really, is it very diferent? In my head they sound the same
<greo>
:)
<customminer>
NeuralMiner how did the script fail?
<Mercosity>
Nah
<greo>
so how about the inverstor mode? how ofter comes an interest ?
<GRCtip>
Sorry greo, your rain to active users (0.23529412 GRC) is too small (min. 0.1 GRC). Increase the amount or decrease max active users.
<greo>
!rainactive 0.23529412 5
<GRCtip>
Sorry greo, your rain to active users (0.23529412 GRC) is too small (min. 0.1 GRC). Increase the amount or decrease max active users.
<greo>
!rainactive 0.23529412 2
<mrtrousers>
They are still very similar..
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! greo rained 0.11764706 GRC on active users caraka, customminer! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<greo>
haha
<fediverse>
greo /me wears my tin foil hat and looks around who rained on us. Oh, nice... it was you!
<Quezacoatl>
mrtrousers dont worry about that
<mrtrousers>
What is GRCtip?
<greo>
it's a bot
<mrtrousers>
Ok i found out, its cool
<greo>
mrtrousers it's like your wallet here.. + other functions
<greo>
you msg 'help' to it ?
<mrtrousers>
yup
<greo>
;)
<mrtrousers>
Checke my balance 0, he also stated: Im not a bank.
<greo>
hehe
<mrtrousers>
So i set up my first boinc project..
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<greo>
good luck
<greo>
i already setup pool mining
<Quezacoatl>
mrtrousers do not go for a GPU project with a CPU
<mrtrousers>
Been there for 5 hourse, and has many tasks, but completing none..
<mrtrousers>
I have a small gpu but, the boinc process doesent see it..
<Mercosity>
!block
<GRCB0T>
626612
<fediverse>
total Gridcoin blocks = 626612
<greo>
Quezacoatl: SETI goes with cpu, right ?
<Quezacoatl>
yes but also GPU, so dont crunch it with a CPU
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<greo>
Quezacoatl: have no real gpu on my laptop.. and the tablet has but i don't know if it's using it for the tasks
<mrtrousers>
What project do you recomend at the moment?
<KatBot>
GridCoin.co: RPC Failed with status code 0
<KatBot>
Gridcoin Asia Block Explorer: 626613
<Mercosity>
Yell! Yell! Yell! Yell! Jump up and down everyone and make the world shake on its axis. My WALLET SYNCED!!!
<Quezacoatl>
I am happy with leiden classical at the moment, regarding GRC output
<greo>
Mercosity: welcome
<mrtrousers>
clap, clap, clap
<Mercosity>
Jeez. That took an age. Now I gotta check diagnostics!
<Mercosity>
No failed again!!??
<greo>
what failed
<greo>
which line
<Mercosity>
Diagnostics on wallet
<Mercosity>
Same as before.
<mrtrousers>
Is leiden a cpu project?
<customminer>
mrtrousers: yes
<Mercosity>
I am having so many problems syncing. I have downloaded blocks for third time in 12 Failure In diagnostics 2nd down - Find CPID puts a strange CPID in 8b49434ecadb6acfc955e3991853890b. This is not my CPID. 3rd down - Verify CPID is valid says - CPID not part of team gridcoin. Total RAC for teamgricoin below 100. No projects on team gridcoin.
<Mercosity>
Scratch.
<Mercosity>
Failure In diagnostics 2nd down - Find CPID puts a strange CPID in 8b49434ecadb6acfc955e3991853890b. This is not my CPID. 3rd down - Verify CPID is valid says - CPID not part of team gridcoin. Total RAC for teamgricoin below 100. No projects on team gridcoin.
<caraka>
\o/ ty greo for the rain!
<caraka>
Quezacoatl: I have got the wallet opening now. As soon as I see a few blocks move, I'm off to bed. I'll report in the morning, and I'll be up early!
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<Hooker63>
Anyone having trouble with the pool manager? I'm getting an XML error...
<fediverse>
< acct_mgr_request.xml not valid XML! >, < [error] Inconsistent signing key from account manager >
<GRCB0T>
Title: GridCoin.co Pool (beta) (at pool.gridcoin.co)
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
see above Hooker63
<moisesm123>
morning!
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<Mercosity>
Erkhan_Yilmaz: Perhaps you can help. Failure In diagnostics 2nd down - Find CPID puts a strange CPID in 8b49434ecadb6acfc955e3991853890b. This is not my CPID. 3rd down - Verify CPID is valid says - CPID not part of team gridcoin. Total RAC for teamgricoin below 100. No projects on team gridcoin.
<Mercosity>
+*
<Mercosity>
+Erkan_Yilmaz: Perhaps you can help. Failure In diagnostics 2nd down - Find CPID puts a strange CPID in 8b49434ecadb6acfc955e3991853890b. This is not my CPID. 3rd down - Verify CPID is valid says - CPID not part of team gridcoin. Total RAC for teamgricoin below 100. No projects on team gridcoin.
* Erkan_Yilmaz
has no windows client, ergo I don't even know what that diagnose option does
<GRDMINER>
Mercosity: when did you start with gridcoin?
<Hooker63>
thanks, trying...
<GRDMINER>
esp. when did you start the boinc projects?
<Mercosity>
Middle last month.
<GRDMINER>
ok, are you using different devices for boinc?
<Mercosity>
Yep.
<GRDMINER>
one the device running the wallet the boinc software is installed and running?
<Mercosity>
Yes, I've only one wallet. Solo and pool. Run BOINC on all my devices.
<GRDMINER>
ok, on that instance all of your solo projects are visible in BOINC client?
<GRDMINER>
just to be sure: you have the most current versions, you are fully snyced and on the right chain, you are running the wallet as admin, your path to BOINC data dir is correctly stated in conf file and your mail address is stated in conf file and the same as you used for all projects
<Mercosity>
GRDMINER: Ok al that seems to be correct.
<Mercosity>
*all
<GRDMINER>
please double check esp. BOINC path and mailaddress, make sure to have no leading, trailing white spaces, typos etc. the path should look like this: boincdatadir=D:\\ProgramData\\BOINC\\ double check with the BOINC log its showing the datadir at every startup
<Mercosity>
GRDMINER: Ok checking. If boincdatadir is not in conf file should I put it in at the bottom or top?
<GRDMINER>
as far as i know it doesnt matter
<GRDMINER>
did you checked you wallet log file already?
<GRDMINER>
for path make sure that you use double backslashes and do not forget \\ at the end
<Mercosity>
GRDMINER: Wallet log file? That in Gridcoinresearch?
<GRDMINER>
yes
<greo>
!stats
<fediverse>
user not found: greo (please contact Erkan_Yilmaz to get your CPID included. Until then: you can also use '!cpid someCPIDhere', but that cpid gets then known by others)
<GRDMINER>
!stats
<fediverse>
user not found: GRDMINER (please contact Erkan_Yilmaz to get your CPID included. Until then: you can also use '!cpid someCPIDhere', but that cpid gets then known by others)
<GRDMINER>
:)
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
one mom, GRDMINER greo :-)
<Mercosity>
GRDMINER: Ok. Checking those out.
<GRDMINER>
its ok my stats are bad
<greo>
:))
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<mrtrousers>
Is rosetta the same as folding@?
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<Mercosity>
GRDMINER: Ok. Found BOINC in C:\program files\BOINC should I put this in myconf file?
<GRDMINER>
Mercosity: btw when did you join team gridcoin for the projects?
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<mrtrousers>
Hei it says joining a team gives its founder access to your email address?
<GRDMINER>
nope i think this not the data dir
<Mercosity>
Yes I did.
<customminer>
mrtrousers: only if you give consent
<GRDMINER>
which date round about?
<mrtrousers>
but you have to join the team?
<customminer>
mrtrousers: yes
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
GRDMINER geo added your cpids, though only GRDMINER's will work, because I see no results for greo yet
<GRDMINER>
for data dir check your boinc message log, it should be statet as one of the first messages
<GRDMINER>
!stats
<fediverse>
your next staked block will get you: 19 GRC (research owed)
<GRDMINER>
yepp as this is the relationship between wallet and boinc
<GRDMINER>
on highlevel
<GRDMINER>
wtf only 19?
<GRDMINER>
:)
<GRDMINER>
ok, i'll have to leave -> work :( sorry
<customminer>
L8r GRDMINER
<GRDMINER>
bye
<Mercosity>
GRDMINER: Ok. Give me a key file name I'd find in the BOINC data directory and I can search for it. Thanks.
<mrtrousers>
Ok. Its something that will change..
<GRDMINER>
last thing, as far as i can see you are in team gridcoin for wcg but your name is not stated in memeber movements, could it be that you joined recently?
<customminer>
mrtrousers: something that may change if more people are publicly in support of said change.
<mrtrousers>
Of course you could provide fake mail and all..
<customminer>
Just create a dedicated Gmail account for boinc.
<mrtrousers>
Beacause gridcoin is a cryptocurrency? And cryptocurrencies like a certain sense of anonimity/privacy..?
<Mercosity>
GRDMINER: Ok. No I joined Team Gridcoin before wcg.
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<customminer>
mrtrousers: yeah, so use a new email and don't give consent to team founder to view email when you sign up to a boinc project.
<customminer>
It's a check box.
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<mrtrousers>
Where do you find your CPID in BOINC?
<customminer>
Via boincstats, netsoft or via project site
<mrtrousers>
Is it the same cpid for all projects?
<Mercosity>
Joined around 15th July - Think that's when beacon was sent form wallet.
<customminer>
mrtrousers: all projects must share the same cpid, yes.
<Mercosity>
*from
<mrtrousers>
Is it the same as user ID?
<mrtrousers>
....
<mrtrousers>
Whats the process to get a boinc project whitelisted?
<mrtrousers>
BTW any of you is at defcon? WIll there be a gridcoin talk of sorts?
<GRCB0T>
Title: World Community Grid - team stats - Gridcoin | BOINCstats/BAM! (at boincstats.com)
<GRDMINER>
maybe boincstat is wrong
<GRDMINER>
for the data dir as I said check you BOINC message log, its the easiest way
<GRDMINER>
or Mercosity is ot your username on boinctstats :)
<Mercosity>
GRDMINER: Ok got you now. I was never in a team before.
<Mercosity>
GRDMINER: Was using another email and only seti@home. Got into it in the early nineties.
<moisesm123>
wow
<moisesm123>
my mag fell 50
<moisesm123>
XD
<GRDMINER>
as the system needs some time to propagete changes you did recrently its important to know if you joined the gridcoin team on a project recently as it may take up to 2 days until the changes are availble
<GRDMINER>
if you still have different mails in your projects or different users this may lead to issues
<Mercosity>
GRDMINER: I deleted all other projects and did a clean start with updated version of BOINC as I was putting it on all my machines as a Gricoin Team member. Thats my user stats yes. but not 3 days ago.
<customminer>
mrtrousers: to get a project whitelisted you need to make a public application on the whitelist thread then create a whitelist vote within the client
<GRDMINER>
hmmm
<GRDMINER>
ok
<GRDMINER>
did you do execute resetcpids already
<customminer>
mrtrousers: no plans to talk at defcon, when/where is it?
<customminer>
Idk if defcon is applicable to us?
<GRDMINER>
but first of all check your boinc data dir
<GRCB0T>
Title: BOINC Data directory - BOINC (at boinc.berkeley.edu)
<mrtrousers>
Its happening now in las vegas. Mmm, i think they liked the cryptocurrencies, but theyd try to break it.. If its really resistent theyd like it
<customminer>
Cpid is a cross-project-id, so yes it's like an user ID across all projects you contribute towards.
<Mercosity>
GRDMINER: Ok. Gonna try that again now.
<customminer>
mrtrousers: they'd probably not like it then, lol
<mrtrousers>
Oh bummer
<GRDMINER>
ok, so i have to leave, really :) maybe someone else can help
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<mrtrousers>
@customminer , do you think it's not robust enough?
<customminer>
I think they'd be annoyed with centralization of boinc servers
<mrtrousers>
Theres the 51 stake attack, and your mail, cpid, etc.. gets shared here and there..
<customminer>
Mail isn't shared publicly. It's only the team founders that can see emails and it's only where given fu
<customminer>
Full permission*. Users can hide their email.
<customminer>
51% stake attack isn't an issue because no one has 51% of all coins.
<mrtrousers>
Well it's a theoretic attack, same as the 51 hash power attack on btc
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
you can't be sure, people might join to a group with a certain agenda
<mrtrousers>
Would you say btc is more robust?
<customminer>
Yeah possibly, the 51% attack is more likely with btc because it would only take 2 or 3 pool owners to collude
<customminer>
I think btc has massively stalled in development. "altcoins" are more appealing and in many cases more advanced than btc
<mrtrousers>
Well with the cost of 51 hashing power, one could buy a whole lot of grc too.
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<customminer>
The cost would be a teleconference between two or three pool owners.
<customminer>
Or Datacenter operators
<mrtrousers>
They have first mover advantage. To me the crypto space is crowded and most are just copycats.
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<mrtrousers>
Im interested in grc cause i see real innovation, the usefulnes of the processing power..
<customminer>
Yeah they are the most well known, but they are becoming the MySpace cryptp to upcoming Facebook cryptos, if you get my drift?
<customminer>
Yeah, there's certainly the advantage of real computation with boinc projects.
<mrtrousers>
It could be, i see some coins are adding functionality.
<customminer>
Btc 7 tps, bitshares 10k tps, etc.
<Mercosity>
GRDMINER: Ok. have a great Friday. Found what I needed and put datdir in conf. Gonna reboot client in a minute To see if that was the problem. Tanks!
<apc>
did you double slash?
<apc>
don't forget to double slash!
<apc>
!stats
<fediverse>
your next staked block will get you: 41 GRC (research owed)
<mrtrousers>
@customminer regarding altcoins, what where you thinking? ethereum?
<customminer>
Nah not ethereum, aside from gridcoin I really like bitshares. Ethereum intervened in Dao like a centralized bank.
<mrtrousers>
i read ripple gave rewards to boinc contributers at some point, do they still do something like that?
<customminer>
They stopped distributing ripple for boinc users years ago
<mrtrousers>
ANd now its purely financial..
<customminer>
Yeah
<mrtrousers>
Do you guys use your average laptop/desktop or proper rigs, clusters and cloud computing?
<customminer>
I use 48core rigs, many have low power devices, some have hundreds or thousands of cores at their disposal.
<Quezacoatl>
I just run my laptop right now
<customminer>
Cloud computing outside of free trials isn't profitable.
<apc>
using those free trials feels abusive to me
<mrtrousers>
why? abusive to amazon?
<apc>
or google
<customminer>
Only if you're signing up to it multiple times. If you're using it once then it's fine.
<apc>
it's ultimately on them for giving it out, yeah
<Quezacoatl>
I think those trials are a good start into GRC :)
<apc>
but taking the free trial with no intention of buying the service
<apc>
meh
<mrtrousers>
I just use my laptop, maybe my phone. I read it uses scrypt and because of the memory requirement we wouldnt get the same arms race as in btc.
<mrtrousers>
Well they give you the trial, otherwise they wouldnt.
<customminer>
Apc such is the nature of a free trial, you're under no expectations to continue your subscription.
<mrtrousers>
If it works and you scale up, you got to pay, so your succes is their succes, i think its fair.
<Mercosity>
apc what did you mean double slash. Thought I'd ask before rebooting - put in boincdatadir=C:\Programdata\boinc is that correct?
<apc>
yeah, that's why it's ultimately on them. but the intention of the free trial is to give a potential customer an idea of what they could expect without having to make a committment
<customminer>
mrtrousers: it doesn't use scrypt, hasn't for a year now. We reward boinc computation on top of proof of stake.
<apc>
d:\\program files\\boinc\\
<apc>
is mine
<mrtrousers>
Well its more like freemium than free trial. Game engines do something similar
<Mercosity>
apc I'm Windows
<apc>
yah, just do \\
<apc>
instead of \
<customminer>
Idd
<apc>
the \ is lonely. it needs a friend
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<Mercosity>
apc sure?
<customminer>
Mercosity: I'm sure it's double.
<customminer>
Only necessary if you've installed boinc to a non default installation location though.
<apc>
I've seen other people suggest that it was needed for them even with defaults
<Mercosity>
apc sorry for questionning you. I installed to default installation customminer.
<apc>
don't you ever question me again!
<customminer>
In that case it's not necessary.
* apc
sips coffee
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<apc>
shit. it's raining. and I think my car windows are open
<Mercosity>
customminer: Ok. I'm was going to do it 'cause my wallet won't pass diagnostics!
<Mercosity>
apc run!
<apc>
I'm naked and there's bacon makin!
<customminer>
Perhaps it's other reasons? Try list cpids in the console
<Mercosity>
apc never cook bacon in the nude.
<apc>
it can be done. just not with a wet spatula
<apc>
found that out quick
<customminer>
Dang dist upgrade has gotten stuck
<apc>
rain stopped. tiny little popup
<Mercosity>
customminer I'll try that and report back.
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<Mercosity>
customminer: Lists all my solo mining projects with the correct CPID.
<customminer>
Any error messages? Is your cpid showing on the overview screen?
<Mercosity>
customminer: Yes it is. When I do diagnostics 2nd down - Find CPID puts a strange CPID in 8b49434ecadb6acfc955e3991853890b. This is not my CPID. 3rd down - Verify CPID is valid says - CPID not part of team gridcoin. Total RAC for teamgricoin below 100. No projects on team gridcoin.
<Mercosity>
Fails
<Mercosity>
Wierd or weird!
<customminer>
Are all your projects present in list cpids? One missing?
<NeuralMiner>
anyone have their wallet nearby and open? i'm wondering what my mag is in the NN.
<NeuralMiner>
nm. Erkan_Yilmaz got it for me.
<mrtrousers>
!stats
<fediverse>
user not found: mrtrousers (please contact Erkan_Yilmaz to get your CPID included. Until then: you can also use '!cpid someCPIDhere', but that cpid gets then known by others)
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<customminer>
Hey vega40k
<vega40k>
hello custo how are you ?
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<customminer>
Yeah good, dist-upgrade broke my Linux installation, reinstalling now. Managed to save all my days though.
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
can someone try the !stats command please ? should show now realtime values from Neural Network
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<vega40k>
yes this bad , from witch gversion you make dist-upgrade ?
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
!stats
<fediverse>
your next staked block will get you: 1 GRC (research owed)
<fediverse>
user not found: AJG (please contact Erkan_Yilmaz to get your CPID included. Until then: you can also use '!cpid someCPIDhere', but that cpid gets then known by others)
<NeuralMiner>
awesome Erkan_Yilmaz
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
NeuralMiner :-)
* Erkan_Yilmaz
looks for AJG
<NeuralMiner>
Erkan_Yilmaz, are you going to take out the other mag? that might be confusing having two listed.
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
the problem would be when the NN values would not be available, then it's missing, I could add an intro text like:
<customminer>
vega40k: from 14.04
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
Neural Network (realtime):
<vega40k>
UBUNTU
<NeuralMiner>
yeah, i think that's a good idea. just so people know the difference.
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
and to the BTC line I could add "history:" ?
<vega40k>
i check to
<vega40k>
!stats
<fediverse>
your next staked block will get you: 228 GRC (research owed)
<apc>
I wish BAM worked right. I like it more than gridrepublic. but gridrepublic works
<NeuralMiner>
i was just looking at gridrepublic. bam keeps messing up my settings.
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<apc>
gridrepublic doesn't have pogs. and it's less informative. and the website has issues where if I let it cache it breaks, so incognito only. but otherwise, yeah, it works
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<vega40k>
but you can use boinc and grc without bam gridrepublic as well too
<NeuralMiner>
not as easy when you have 100+ machines.
<apc>
yah
<apc>
including androids
<vega40k>
ok
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<n00bie>
!polls
<fediverse>
current polls (vote participation: yes/no)
<fediverse>
user not found: n00bie (please contact Erkan_Yilmaz to get your CPID included. Until then: you can also use '!cpid someCPIDhere', but that cpid gets then known by others)
<n00bie>
!cpid 0180d21299ca17267b6cf734c9d05884
<KatBot>
Invalid CPID: CPIDs should be 32 characters in length.
<fediverse>
your next staked block will get you: 0 GRC (research owed)
<GRCB0T>
(config <name> [<value>]) -- If <value> is given, sets the value of <name> to <value>. Otherwise, returns the current value of <name>. You may omit the leading "supybot." in the name if you so choose.
<NeuralMiner>
hmmm. Erkan_Yilmaz, can you make a command like !config that will tell users where the .conf file is?
<NeuralMiner>
like "!config where" or something.
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<Mercosity>
Quit/Join. Quit/Join. Quit/Join.
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<tom12>
thank you customminer
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
sure
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
currently I have only:
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
!config
<GRCB0T>
(config <name> [<value>]) -- If <value> is given, sets the value of <name> to <value>. Otherwise, returns the current value of <name>. You may omit the leading "supybot." in the name if you so choose.
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
will add to it: your gridcoinresearch.conf is in: windows: /%appdata%/GridcoinResearch/ and for linux: /home/your_user/.GridcoinResearch/
<Mercosity>
Zounds Great.
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<Mercosity>
Erkan_Yilmaz: How do you keep up with all these demands.
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<Erkan_Yilmaz>
adding them on a todo-list :-)
<NeuralMiner>
awesome. thanks Erkan_Yilmaz
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
:-)
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<Erkan_Yilmaz>
!config
<GRCB0T>
(config <name> [<value>]) -- If <value> is given, sets the value of <name> to <value>. Otherwise, returns the current value of <name>. You may omit the leading "supybot." in the name if you so choose.
<fediverse>
Gridcoin's config file 'gridcoinresearch.conf' is in: Windows: /%appdata%/GridcoinResearch/ (and for linux: /home/your_user/.GridcoinResearch/ )
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
vega40k: I have to talk to Mum about my unknown siblings
<vega40k>
brother from another mother :-) you are _
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
hehe
<mrtrousers>
:)
<vega40k>
and our roots are in afrika , but we forgot it
<Mercosity>
Erkan_Yilmaz: I found the same problem with WCG. I upped my daily quota, suspended everything but WCG and updated and they down loaded.
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
well, I tried that also (suspending)
<Mercosity>
Up your daily quota, what's it at now?
<Peppernrino>
new amd drivers today?
<cbrrr>
up your daily quota too :P
<Peppernrino>
morning
<cbrrr>
evening
<Peppernrino>
my moo numbers fuckign suck lately
<apc>
afternoon!
<Mercosity>
cbrr up yours.
<Peppernrino>
lol
<Mercosity>
apc good aftermorning to you.
* Peppernrino
rolls a joint
<apc>
:D
<Mercosity>
Me I want some.
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<Mercosity>
Doesn't grow here, needs sunshine. Clouds and RRrrrrraaaaaaiiiiinnnnnnNNN here.
<jamezz>
wake n bake time
<jamezz>
Peppernrino get that GPU shit working?
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
where is this "daily quota" ? is it the <work_buf_min_days> aka Store at least x days of work ?
<Mercosity>
Can swap for grass, the stuff cows eat.
<Mercosity>
Erka_yilmaz thats it.
<Mercosity>
Can't spell today.
<Peppernrino>
gpu is not working
<Peppernrino>
:D
<Peppernrino>
my life is basically wasting away
<Mercosity>
Why?
<apc>
I was expecting my 290x today. it's not coming til tomorrow. sad panda.
<jamezz>
damn , so is that just a 750 thing or linux?
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
quota: didn't help "change from 0.1 days to 2 days" with suspending everything before
<Peppernrino>
you ever live with a bitch... and they're so fucked up about not having money... that they make it next to impossible to even think about where to get some more?
<Peppernrino>
yeah.
<jamezz>
yep , my 2nd wife
<jamezz>
ex
<jamezz>
and thats the reason she is an ex.. cant turn a house wife into a
<Peppernrino>
aw. you married them?
<NeuralMiner>
how many machines you have hooked to WCG Erkan_Yilmaz ?
<Peppernrino>
goof
<jamezz>
wait
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
NeuralMiner: 2
<NeuralMiner>
both dont get jobs?
<jamezz>
twice
<mrtrousers>
Well yea, thats what happens when you get in scarcity mindset. Thats why you got to thing about some more before the tank is empty.
<Mercosity>
Jeez, I don't have that problem I have to hold on to it so my wifey doesn't spend it on ebay.
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
1 android, 1 linux desktop
<jamezz>
and no no no not now... 10 years unmarried
<Peppernrino>
she makes the money, i spend it.
<Peppernrino>
lately she sucks at making money
<Peppernrino>
so
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
and onboth I just get in event log only that "your setting does not allow ... and so on
<Peppernrino>
obviously, it's up to me t figure things out like, today.
<jamezz>
well does she have a real job or just cam?
<Peppernrino>
you mean sweating in a kitchen for $14/hr?
<Peppernrino>
no.
<Peppernrino>
we're nit slaves.
<Peppernrino>
not
<mrtrousers>
whats a nit slave?
<jamezz>
well i mean , so she makes $$$ on cam masturbating for random guys... you make it mining coin... and wait you are anti extablishment in america?
<greo>
paahahhahhah
<jamezz>
i fapped to her last night
<jamezz>
sorry
<Peppernrino>
nice.
<Mercosity>
Erkan_Yilmaz: That was my probem so I upped the Store at least in Computer prefs.
<jamezz>
archive of videos
<Peppernrino>
that's what it's for man.
<Peppernrino>
don't apologising for using the bathroom, right?
<jamezz>
i know
<Peppernrino>
-ing
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<Peppernrino>
did meth
<jamezz>
bathroom i fap right here
<Peppernrino>
brain is all...
<NeuralMiner>
Erkan_Yilmaz, have you looked at your default device profile on WCG?
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
Mercosity: I will try a few times today to get WU from WCG with updating it, who knows it might work l8
<jamezz>
but i was trying to make a point... its like me and being on SSDI dude i get 771 a month , because 40 already went to child support
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
NeuralMiner: yes, and I change both, and when all went down the river I deleted both also, so I just have the standard setting in WCG
<NeuralMiner>
so you're using the default profile?
<Mercosity>
Erkan_Yilmaz: Give it a go, you won't break it.
<jamezz>
i dont even try , females only care about the income
<NeuralMiner>
"Allow research to run on my CPU?" is set to yes?
<jamezz>
thats where i was going with that , it dont matter how much you make... i brought home about $3600 every 2 weeks at ccbill and my 2nd ex it still wasnt enough.
<mrtrousers>
No income no honey lol
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
NeuralMiner: I don't see that, I have now only the default profile with checkbox: " Maximum Output: Set my profile so that it will do the maximum amount of research possible on my computer "
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
and in my projects I have enabled all projects
<NeuralMiner>
yeah, if you set it to maximum it takes away the other options. that's really weird man.
<mrtrousers>
Do you think gridcoin could become the coin of choice?
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
yeah, it's super strange, and I actually do not want to change anything with WCG website anymore, since a few of my Boinc clients take that settings for WUs for other projects
<jamezz>
man , i put Ace of Spades on my night stand so i wake n baked to it knowing i had to clear out last nights bowl but damnit... now snowland and chemdawg got me tired.
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
playing with different device profiles and other options just had a negative influence on those boinc clients
<NeuralMiner>
and you hit update in BOINC after making the changes on the site?
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
yes
<NeuralMiner>
... WCG doesnt like you man.
<Peppernrino>
jamezz: no. i meant she is a utility. she's FOR jacking off too.
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
not sure, as said: in the past WCG boincstats challenge it was same, at end I got some WCG WUs...
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
was hoping for that now also here, but no WUs yet came
<Peppernrino>
don't apologise for bodily functions.
<mrtrousers>
Does gridcoin wallet have a private key?
<Peppernrino>
yeah
<mrtrousers>
Where is it? I dont see it
<Mercosity>
Erkan_Yilmaz: It's segregation.
<Peppernrino>
what do you mean a private key?
<Peppernrino>
like a keyfile?
<mrtrousers>
yes
<jamezz>
how do you have a profile , when you are forced to use pool.gridcoin.co and its minimal... i need to know and want to know how to add my damn personal cache/mem/cpu settings... also i keep seeing WCG and it is whitelisted BUT and katiee has it on a forum page WCG is not in her drop down and not capatable... Heck WCG when i checked it out took a whole nother custom boinc ( or skinned boinc ) .
<Peppernrino>
oh. no.
<jamezz>
so how are you guys
<jamezz>
like wtf
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
seems so, Mercosity
<mrtrousers>
I can create public addreses but how do i find my wallet if i reinstall or computer gets destroyed?
<Mercosity>
Maybe he means pass phrase.
<Peppernrino>
nah
<NeuralMiner>
there's a few whitelisted projects that arent in the pool.
<Peppernrino>
windows?
<Peppernrino>
mrtrousers
<Emptybeerbottle>
Just take advantage of Suicide Squad and do a lot of Harley Quinn cosplay camshows
<jamezz>
but what if its d/users/mrtrousers/appdate/roaming/gridcoinreasearch
<jamezz>
and ^ roaming
<Peppernrino>
emptybeerbottle: the sites are going to be absolutely disgusting with harley quinn cosplay
<Peppernrino>
for the next month or so
<Peppernrino>
chicks were already doing the different-coloured ponytails after the trailer came out.
<Emptybeerbottle>
Pretty much. Should be good.
<Peppernrino>
no.
<Emptybeerbottle>
^^
<Peppernrino>
played out bullshit.
<Peppernrino>
i'm an innovator.
<Peppernrino>
harley quinn is too easy...
<Peppernrino>
it's what my ex would do...
<jamezz>
but i want to know , how can you change project settings having to use the pool? and how can we team user gridcoin team gridcoin per the client manager change settings? just manual editing files in linux?
<Emptybeerbottle>
If you want a real challenge then try Jabba the hut
<jamezz>
is that the chic in the movie of vilans?
<Peppernrino>
also... there aren't any stores around here like that at all.
<Peppernrino>
there's like a home hardware, and abread store
<jamezz>
know her vagina smells like old spilt beer and peppermint gum
<Peppernrino>
that's some weird trivia.
<Peppernrino>
who told you that?
<NeuralMiner>
jamezz, to change the project settings, i believe you have to do it through boinc. you cant do it through the project website since you're using the pool. options/computing prefs.
<Peppernrino>
mrttrousers: make sure you're all loaded up on the nodes too.
<Peppernrino>
in that same directory, there's a .conf file. you can modify this file to make your wallet do neat things.
<jamezz>
ya no gui
<mrtrousers>
ok so i found wallet.dat, how do i extract my private personal key?
<jamezz>
thats not boinc , thats the boinc client manager
<greo>
Peppernrino :}}
<jamezz>
sorry its cli only and its pain in the ass... i have them all for boinccmd
<greo>
.conf is magic
<Peppernrino>
yup
<mrtrousers>
I mean.. Btc private key > public key, guess is similar
<jamezz>
but , NeuralMiner thats like my other question and ive asked it before and got no answer , how the heck do we attach to projects that are not in the pool , that are team challanges... like yafu for example
<jamezz>
and oh , i did not know it was not a PoR challange... fuck i wouldnt want to risk attaching manual with the way the wallet/boinc already screws up
<Peppernrino>
everybody thank NeuralMiner
<Peppernrino>
!tip neuralminer 5
<GRCtip>
Peppernrino tipped neuralminer 5 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<NeuralMiner>
thanks homie.
<Peppernrino>
also
<Peppernrino>
!tip moisesm123 5
<GRCtip>
Peppernrino tipped moisesm123 5 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Peppernrino>
he's been doing some great stuff... consistently.
<moisesm123>
ty!! :)
<Peppernrino>
<3
<moisesm123>
:*
<Peppernrino>
not that you aren't consistent, neuralminer... i just see my contributions as fairly sporadic
<Peppernrino>
can't quite get a hold of one thing.
<NeuralMiner>
lol. no worries man.
<Peppernrino>
i'm probably autistic. :(
<Peppernrino>
like phay
<mrtrousers>
added nodes, thanks.
<Peppernrino>
thank you
<jamezz>
dude is that like an insult?
<NeuralMiner>
lol
<Peppernrino>
!tip mrtrousers 1
<GRCtip>
Peppernrino tipped mrtrousers 1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<jamezz>
being autisitic?
<Peppernrino>
no
<mrtrousers>
thanks
<Peppernrino>
it's probably why i'm brilliant, but can't relate to people.
<jamezz>
ok i was just checking not just because i have an autistic child
<jamezz>
but if GRC supports that
<Peppernrino>
"no rino... it's THEM that are wrong..."
<mrtrousers>
You read the rosie project? hilarious
<Peppernrino>
supports what? making fun of autistic people? lol
<mrtrousers>
Anyway, how do you get the private key.. If you lose your wallet how do you find it again?
<Peppernrino>
you save that wallet.dat file on a usb or whatever, periodically
<Peppernrino>
to keep it up to date
<Peppernrino>
all you need is that file pretty much.
<NeuralMiner>
i BELIEVE the only time you need to make a backup is if you add an address to your wallet. i vaguely remember reading that somewhere.
<vega40k>
!tip jamezz 0.1
<GRCtip>
vega40k tipped jamezz 0.1 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<Peppernrino>
hm
<NeuralMiner>
a backup after the first one, that is. always have a backup.
<Peppernrino>
well, best to air on the side of caution, then.
<mrtrousers>
for some reason i cant read it, wallet.dat, id like to write the string on papers or something.
<Peppernrino>
Also i proposed earlier FEATURE REQUEST - menu IMPORT PRIVATE KEY in GUI wallet for paper wallet backups. Vote up on this feature if you want it in next release.
<Peppernrino>
"
<Peppernrino>
lol
<fediverse>
customminer you just made us wet our pants. Who's gonna clean up this mess now? Already the 9th dirty trousers this week
<Peppernrino>
no upvotes.
<Emptybeerbottle>
Thanks customminer \o/
<mrtrousers>
yea id like a paper wallet backap. So far neither nano nor gedit cant open wallet.dat
<Yoduza>
ipominer.com zero stats :(
<Peppernrino>
whoa ty
<moisesm123>
ty
<NeuralMiner>
there's no paper wallet backup for gridcoin mrtrousers
<AJG>
ty
<Gary760>
thx
<jamezz>
thanks customminer , you also have a bunch of coins
<PenumbraDuFromag>
ty
<jamezz>
least on irc
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
merci customminer (and no fear, I'll be washing
<jamezz>
i swear you print them!
<jamezz>
cuz with no #gridcoin-irpg and summer sun
<mrtrousers>
:)
<Peppernrino>
we are kind of sitting in the lunch room of the mint.
<NeuralMiner>
anyone withdraw their coins from the bot lately?
<Peppernrino>
how lately?
<Peppernrino>
and yes
<NeuralMiner>
customminer, no issues on the nodes after the update?
<NeuralMiner>
Peppernrino, i just want the transaction number. i want to see how much is sitting in the bot wallet.
<jamezz>
but its GRC and not the federal treasury
<jamezz>
its legit
<jamezz>
isnt i?
<jamezz>
it*
<mrtrousers>
Ok wallet.dat is encrypted or something but im quiet sure in there are the strings i want
<jamezz>
blocks are not built like the usa makes bills lol
<jamezz>
so lunch room or back room?
<jamezz>
lol
<NeuralMiner>
mrtrousers, i'm not sure what strings you mean. the GRC wallet doesnt work like that as far as i know.
<jamezz>
im kosher either way
<Peppernrino>
gotta eat lunch
<vega40k>
jamezz . letz rain plz
<jamezz>
!tip vega40k .2
<GRCtip>
jamezz tipped vega40k 0.2 GRC! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<vega40k>
not me
<jamezz>
you made 2x
<vega40k>
!rainactive 200
* Peppernrino
starts his wallet to sate NeuralMiner's sick perversion
<vega40k>
i know i got the money
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
mrtrousers: you can use tools like base64 on your wallet.dat, then you can print it
<NeuralMiner>
lol. dont worry about it if it's not up. more curious than anything.
<jamezz>
dude why you think i got anything? i can check slimeball but i woke with 0 on here this morning
<Peppernrino>
"/uwho <nickname>" - /whois <nickname> command shows you a lot of cryptic info in the Status window but the /uwho <nickname> command will open a clear and informative User Central.
<Peppernrino>
"/whowas <nickname>" Shows information about someone who -just- left IRC.
<Peppernrino>
"/who <*address.string*>" Shows all people on IRC with a matching address.
<GRCB0T>
Title: Team Signup (at teamgridcoin.signup.team)
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
!apocalypse has come Peppernrino :-(
<fediverse>
sell all your GRC now, soon we'll have another case like Cryptsy, Bitcoinica, Shapeshift, Bitfinex, MtGox
<Peppernrino>
lol
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
:-)
<mrtrousers>
!coins
<fediverse>
total GRC coins created = 378.98 million
<mrtrousers>
Really? Theres already all those coins?
<NeuralMiner>
yep.
<jamezz>
i wonder if there is a whitelisted project on the study of autism and more research on what causes it , there is no reason to cure my son is awesome the way here is... but some people see it as a burden and disease soooo i wonder... if not damnit i wanna know whem to talk to!
<NeuralMiner>
i dont know of one, jamezz
<jamezz>
me either
<Peppernrino>
nah. fuck those people. i like autistic people..
<GRCB0T>
Title: All team challenges | BOINCstats/BAM! (at boincstats.com)
<jamezz>
im not jk either
<NeuralMiner>
gpugrid... you guys are on your own with that one.
<jamezz>
why?
<NeuralMiner>
i mostly run CPU
<jamezz>
i do gpu grid already!
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
looks like customminer should make some new challenge on boincstats
<jamezz>
i have been playing back and forth
<Peppernrino>
i was up for 2 days
<jamezz>
like right now since alias made a new client exicutable and i had not ran any vm's i said ok lets play around with it too... shit has 8 vm's running on my box while 2 non intensive cpu go in backround and 1 gpu project rips threw
<jamezz>
its awesome
<jamezz>
but gpugrid doesnt like to give me work
<jamezz>
wtf
<Peppernrino>
me either\
<Peppernrino>
i think it's an inside job
<jamezz>
im not having much luck with gpu projects other than astroids and alias and i like that
<jamezz>
its ok with me
<jamezz>
oh and milkey way
<Peppernrino>
*ATLAS
<jamezz>
thanks , this bowl #2 ace of spades
<Peppernrino>
oh yeah that reminds me
<Peppernrino>
new amd driver
<mrtrousers>
curecoin channel is almost empty
<Peppernrino>
getting a friggin error trying to access myfreecams...
<Peppernrino>
txlogin
<Peppernrino>
qon't even load the site
<jamezz>
i need to just try and reinstall boinc and see... it should have seen gpu computing.. but the driver was installed after boinc... nobody could tell me if it auto detects gpu capability and inserts the options then as another .exe or if it does it on .exe start up... because i have 2 boxes i just setup with nvidia cards listed capable.
<jamezz>
and i just have cpu options still
<jamezz>
slow older gpu's but still!
<Peppernrino>
only 192,000 credits today. that's shite.
<customminer>
mrtrousers: curecoin issues their asset via an centralized authority.
<mrtrousers>
Da..
<Mercosity>
Some of the old ones that run OCL fly through stuff.
<caraka>
Quezacoatl: I'm rushing out the door again, but I can report that my odroid has failed to sync full overnight. :/ Stuck in roughly the same place as you. Coming from snapshot. Have a good evening!
<Peppernrino>
jamezz: it should detect the gpu afterward
<mrtrousers>
Gridcoin issues coin based on.. pos and por?
<Peppernrino>
just restart the computer
<jamezz>
damn then
<jamezz>
i have
<jamezz>
dude come on POWER CYCLE
<jamezz>
we need make it a song
<jamezz>
the client support song
<Peppernrino>
jamezz: you might be having trouble with milkyway because your card may not be capable of double precision.
<jamezz>
HAVE YOU REBOOTED NOW
<mrtrousers>
I had the same problem today, it was de nvidia driver
<jamezz>
wait i have no issues with anything i said and gpu
<jamezz>
my 9590 and 750ti work great for gpu
<jamezz>
projects i listed like 20 mins ago , are on my main desktop for gpu and cpu like alias... sorry atlas alias both are hostnames for servers ive had in the past... if they do helix and xion as projects im going to really get confused
<jamezz>
i have 3 amd/nvidia boxes in the livingroom too
<mrtrousers>
Its taking very long to sync... I have a fast conection... why?
<customminer>
mrtrousers: yes
<customminer>
mrtrousers: updated to the latest version?
<mrtrousers>
of gridcoin? i guess?
<Peppernrino>
nice. new chipset drivers out for amd too. :)
<NeuralMiner>
!version
<GRCB0T>
The current (running) version of this Limnoria is 2016.06.29, running on Python 3.4.3 (default, Oct 14 2015, 20:28:29) [GCC 4.8.4]. The newest versions available online are 2016.06.29 (in master), 2016.08.05 (in testing).
<jamezz>
all 3 should GPU mine... but well i was having issues I will console them too.. i have a belkin cable kvm i should hookup... since i have a monitor its at my work area... and ill grab my laptop latter and work on them and have my laptop " right here in my hands " while i do it so I can get help if needed..
<mrtrousers>
well thats were i got it earlier today
<jamezz>
1 i know wont , i was going to use all 3 as heads for USB to GPU , so they are just athlon64's 1 dual core and 1 single... and sadly a 64bit semperon le-1250
<jamezz>
that last CPU is such a joke
<jamezz>
rofl
<mrtrousers>
And boinc needs something to show progres, a bar, a rising number.. Its frustrating wating not knowin if its doins something or not.
<Peppernrino>
there are many indicators for boinc
<jamezz>
mrarturas , have you seen the boincthrottle program , and the other one?
<jamezz>
it all has that
<Peppernrino>
open the boinc manager, and go into the tasks tab
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<Peppernrino>
amd needs a site overhaul.
<Peppernrino>
ssl doesn't work properly... it loads like shit...
<vega40k>
jamezz: are u drunk ?
<jamezz>
omg i forgot i could add every box into boinc tasks , but in a saved tree unlike the boinc default interface
<jamezz>
vega40k , why drew you aks
<jamezz>
?
<vega40k>
u forget the rain
<vega40k>
:-)
<mrtrousers>
WHose behind gridcoin? ONe person or a team?
<vega40k>
Peppernrino: is the boss
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
The Illuminati
<NeuralMiner>
there's one main developer.
<vega40k>
you and me only slaves
<Mercosity>
Broederbond.
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* vega40k
opens bavarian beer like craftbeer for Mercosity and maybe fkinglag if him not sleep
<Mercosity>
Tak'
<vega40k>
you see fkinglag sleeps
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<mrtrousers>
Is the dev german?
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<jamezz>
damn
<jamezz>
and yeah i got spell checking now... this new windows irc client adirc x64 us awesome
<mrtrousers>
What is the neural network in gridcoin?
<jamezz>
so other than WUpop , and i know sore subject.. there was another non-cpu intensive project currently giving out work... just ive had it non-suspended , and allowing work.
<jamezz>
its everyone
<jamezz>
its all the CPID's and wallet addresses together
<jamezz>
least thats , what i read...
<jamezz>
the network grid for what i said above
<jamezz>
like how !stats knows
<mrtrousers>
Is bitcoin network a neural network too then?
<jamezz>
ive never btc , i have just done seti since it was 1rst alpha release in like 97
<jamezz>
96
<mrtrousers>
For real? Wow..
<jamezz>
yes , when it was distributed as a screen saver
<jamezz>
thats all it was , but did the work
<jamezz>
win 95 baby
<mrtrousers>
Is it posible back then it was like images and the user had to sort them, like finde the diferences or something like that?
<NeuralMiner>
customminer, have you updated any of your nodes to 16.04.1?
<jamezz>
i remember when i got it to win 98 and a riva tnt 4mb agp card with 2 x 12mb 3dfx voodoo 2's and it used openGL and was sick as hell! aka , on a k6-2 350mhz it ran like it does now
<jamezz>
SLI was awesome
<jamezz>
still is
<apc>
voooodoooo
<apc>
I just threw one of those away
<apc>
I had a riva tnt, too
<apc>
leetness.
<jamezz>
but mrtrousers im sorry , i cant answer
<jamezz>
dude i think i have one
<jamezz>
i pulled out this HP ima fire up just because i have a 3.8ghz socket 478 i poped in it , removing the 1.6
<mrtrousers>
I remember doing something like mechanical turk for science, with pictures of stars, etc..
<jamezz>
i got a bag of cpu's and few 1gb sticks pc133
<jamezz>
its just 2 more cpu's and has to be faster than my 8 arm7's
<customminer>
NeuralMiner: not yet, how come?
<jamezz>
but it has i think a 4mb agp card , might me a tnt2
<jamezz>
well tnt for 4 , tnt2 for 8
<NeuralMiner>
customminer, i'm about to test it out then.
<jamezz>
seems the GRC community on freenode , is around the same age for an average not strait total.
<customminer>
NeuralMiner: I tried upgrading to 16.04 on my laptop and it killed it lol
<NeuralMiner>
lol
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<mrtrousers>
OMG Im looking at the level of fragmentation in the coin world and is astonishing
<NeuralMiner>
!challenges
<fediverse>
our team Gridcoin and the WorldCommunityGrid challenge 'Compete against Gridcoin: WCG Monthly Race #001':
<GRCB0T>
Error: The command "add" is available in the Aka and RSS plugins. Please specify the plugin whose command you wish to call by using its name as a command before "add".
<GRCB0T>
Title: Butterfly Labs 60GH S | eBay (at www.ebay.com)
<Peppernrino>
virus ^
<moisesm123>
it works in Bitcoin Utopia even if it is not whitelisted XD
<moisesm123>
and I will get the PSU later
<NeuralMiner>
3 bucks. lol. that's awesome.
<moisesm123>
yeah hahaha
<moisesm123>
hope it really works XD
<mrtrousers>
What is bitcoin utopia? Is it here in this channel?
<NeuralMiner>
still kinda like the idea of gridcoin utopia. but like customminer said, you could just use eobot.
<moisesm123>
so since it needs a PSU, as far as I understand it should work with any PSU that meets the watt requirement that has PCI express lanes right?
<moisesm123>
yeah, I was thinking on using it on eobot
<moisesm123>
I wanna use it for BU to reach #1 in PR in the ASIC leaderboards, and then switch it to eobot
<moisesm123>
no one here in PR is making that much credits besides me
<moisesm123>
also, I would only be able to use it in the nights, as during the days it would make a lot of heat
<moisesm123>
and also because electricity is expensive
<moisesm123>
I was thinking if we could make our own Bitcoin Utopia but like in a GoFundMe-Style
<customminer>
I don't think BU's worth the extra leaderboard position.
<moisesm123>
what do you guys thing about that?
<moisesm123>
I wanna learn on making a BOINC server :)
<NeuralMiner>
what do you mean in a gofundme style? like the proceeds go to a certain project or cause?
<customminer>
You could get added to an extra couple multipools if you ask around if you don't like eobot. I think we can do better than a pow project.
<NeuralMiner>
3,400 for a ethereum mining rig. gonna be interesting since it's going PoS soon.
<moisesm123>
yes. In GoFundMe, you help people by donating money. With a BU style boinc project, we could make anyway basically make a campaign and then people would choose to who they would support and receive WU based on their selection
<NeuralMiner>
i have a boinc server/project running now just to play/test. it wasnt too bad to set up.
<NeuralMiner>
uses docker containers too.
<moisesm123>
Right Now I like the BU idea, but not that it´s up to Henry to approve and that sort...
<moisesm123>
so we could make one that would go live instantly, but of course with the option to report suspicious projects
<moisesm123>
suspicious campaign**
<moisesm123>
everyone wins there :)
<moisesm123>
setting up cgminer is easy
<moisesm123>
I believe setting up the jobs would be easy too
<moisesm123>
but I really don´t know since I haven´t used the BOINC server
<NeuralMiner>
i'm not sure how to validate the WUs though.
<spassbold>
how does Henri validate WUs ?
<spassbold>
Because running the bitcoin miner is just sending out a miner executable
<spassbold>
but how to verify?
<moisesm123>
to validate the software should read the CMD window to know if it reaches the specified amount of shares. If it is 0 or lower than let´s say 512 shares it is invalid
<moisesm123>
you know, that part of cgminer that says how many shares are accepted
<NeuralMiner>
i'm not sure. i wasnt able to find anything on it when i researched a while back.
<spassbold>
yeah but then someone could just write an exe that print ("share", i)
<moisesm123>
I don´t know how he does it neither
<moisesm123>
that´s just the way I´m thinking it could be validated
<spassbold>
maybe the dark secret is
<spassbold>
it's not even validated
<customminer>
makes sense
<spassbold>
you can have a validator that accepts everything
<NeuralMiner>
lol. brb, joining BU
<moisesm123>
well I have a couple of error units
<NeuralMiner>
maybe it just looks for a valid output though... doesnt actually validate. that'd be crazy.
<GRCB0T>
Title: GridCoin.co Pool (beta) (at pool.gridcoin.co)
<jamezz>
i cant edit user jamezz to fix it
<jamezz>
or does it tie all that together?
<NeuralMiner>
... how the hell would you validate those WUs...
<jamezz>
its all under team gridcoin user gridcoin
<customminer>
NeuralMiner: magic
<jamezz>
and ive attempted contact multiple times the past week , when its said to concact here and figured it out on my own.. but this error is 1 i have no control over
<NeuralMiner>
pretty much.
<customminer>
jamezz: Yeah, it doesn't make sense.. that implies you have a solo account on the project webpage, surely you're using the pool account?
<NeuralMiner>
hmm. i need to get ahold of what's in the slot directory while the WU is running.
<jamezz>
i need to go shower , im sorry customminer if you are able to help or trying i will be back soon. its almost 3pm
<jamezz>
and yes , yes i am
<jamezz>
on all 13 machines
<jamezz>
a mix of windows and linux and arm7 and i wont even try sync the androids so ignore arm7
<jamezz>
anyways ill be back in a bit.. if you dont believe i can screen shot any issue i ever bring up
<jamezz>
lucky 2 linux boxes on the pool just finally got released WU's it was leaving it as only 4 , 1 per core running
<NeuralMiner>
anyone that runs BU can get me a zip of what's in the slot directory?
<jamezz>
something has been up with the pool
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<Phay>
hunger
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<Phay>
there is a legend
<Phay>
that those who fapsterbate more than 12 times per month immunity to cancer
<customminer>
mrtrousers: might be a project specific issue?
<slimeball>
!rainactive 3.61160002 5
<mrtrousers>
Im doing pogs and asteroids
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! slimeball rained 0.72232 GRC on active users moisesm123, stevescoins, jamezz, fediverse, spassbold! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<fediverse>
slimeball all hail thy name
<slimeball>
woops space as at the wrong place
<coinictus>
woof
<mrtrousers>
Laptop is heating like if i was playing a videogame, yet no progress showing
<slimeball>
so 5 i deleted cuz i knew my amt ended in 2
<NeuralMiner>
on debian, the progress doesnt refresh for me unless i click on the individual tasks for some reason.
<apc>
I like this fan. it's big and strong. the duct too. it's hard and long.
<apc>
no homo.
<Deviantone>
!rainactive 20 20
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Deviantone rained 1 GRC on active users moisesm123, Mercosity, Erkan_Yilmaz, KatBot, vega40k, xms, GRCB0T, customminer, stevescoins, jamezz, YajuuSenpai, Peppernrino, mrtrousers, fediverse, kiebitz, slimeball, apc, tom12, xXUnRealXx, spassbold! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<fediverse>
Deviantone thx
<apc>
I amuse myself with such magnificent immaturity
<jamezz>
sweet i was bitching my 2 linux cloud quad core vps's were getting no work.. down to just 4 running... now 150 backlock suddenly... i hate not being able to play with settings
<jamezz>
thanks Deviantone
<Deviantone>
!rainactive 20 20
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Deviantone rained 1 GRC on active users kiebitz, Mercosity, NeuralMiner, YajuuSenpai, slimeball, bob21, KatBot, Peppernrino, coinictus, spassbold, jamezz, xXUnRealXx, greo, tom12, Erkan_Yilmaz, Gary760, apc, fediverse, mrtrousers, moisesm123! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<apc>
tytyty
<fediverse>
Deviantone may no Gridcoin wallet update break your system
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<apc>
tyty
<Deviantone>
!rainactive 20 20
<GRCtip>
Bah-weep-graaaaagnah wheep nini bong! Deviantone rained 1 GRC on active users KatBot, Erkan_Yilmaz, spassbold, bob21, slimeball, mrtrousers, kiebitz, Mercosity, jamezz, Gary760, Peppernrino, xXUnRealXx, NeuralMiner, fediverse, GRCB0T, YajuuSenpai, greo, vega40k, stevescoins, tom12! Type "/msg GRCtip help" for info.
<xms>
t5hx
<fediverse>
Deviantone you just made us wet our pants. Who's gonna clean up this mess now? Already the 12th dirty trousers this week
<apc>
ty
<Deviantone>
happy friday :)
<mrtrousers>
:)
<xXUnRealXx>
someone won the power ball
<mrtrousers>
Thanks deviantone
<Deviantone>
happy to see the price uptick today as well
<jamezz>
beasty boys - you got to fight for your right came on as Deviantone started rain.. does that go with it?
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
merci for the 3 rains, Deviantone (and I agree: "may no Gridcoin wallet update break your system")
<Deviantone>
lol
<Deviantone>
it tries sometimes
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<bob21>
thx x2 Deviantone
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
;-)
<xXUnRealXx>
!polls
<fediverse>
current polls (vote participation: yes/no)
<fediverse>
(help how to use the snapshot via command: !snapshot howto )
<xXUnRealXx>
hahaha looks like my wallet updated on its own, i was wondering why its locked and not synced
<mrtrousers>
Erkan_Ylmaz , the laptop works, it heats as if playing videogames, but the projects get no progres cpu or run time? how do you do it? also ubuntu boinc client looks worse than windows.
<mrtrousers>
Theres not even a menu in the gridcoin wallet..
<mrtrousers>
BTW I have ubuntu 16.04, do you have 16.10?
<xXUnRealXx>
Well looks like instead of kicking 1 Person We gonna Kick The entire Project. Mind as well get off Wuprop now and use the cpu on something else
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
when my make doesn't occupy 99% of my RAM I'll tell you
<mrtrousers>
ok
<mrtrousers>
I restarted gridcoin wallet with admin rights, anyone know where the menu is?
<mrtrousers>
Ok, I found the menu, thanks.
<NeuralMiner>
soooo... the update to 16.04.4 broke my apt-get....
<customminer>
NeuralMiner: yeah same lol
<NeuralMiner>
xXUnRealXx, it's an NCI project, so i dont know what you're going to use that extra CPU power for...
<customminer>
well.. mine crashed mid way through dist upgrade then i needed to install os from scratch
<xXUnRealXx>
sorry 2 hear
<customminer>
xXUnRealXx: we can kick an individual temporarily, but they can rejoin immediately or change cpid and continue. It's not just the recent issues with wuprop's credit system, but also the lack of purpose and lack of ssl encryption.
<NeuralMiner>
yeah customminer, both my nodes cant apt now.
<mrtrousers>
Is much better runnin with admin rights mor options..
<NeuralMiner>
so this is nice.
<customminer>
lol
<NeuralMiner>
oh wait
<NeuralMiner>
it worked.
<NeuralMiner>
it just needs a few minutes to think about it's life choices.
<xXUnRealXx>
I'm gonna find me an alien with the extra 0.0025% cpu power
<customminer>
haha
<xXUnRealXx>
customminer i need to pick ya brain. Anyother NonCI Projects on white list?
<xXUnRealXx>
that can replace wuprop?
<mrtrousers>
Hei, the client is called nakamoto..
<NeuralMiner>
i would imagine all NCI projects would have the same cheating issue that wuprop has.
<xXUnRealXx>
like GRC Finance too
<WhitesoxCrypto>
evening gridsters!!
<WhitesoxCrypto>
what's up with gridcoing-irpg??? can we remove the chann???
<xXUnRealXx>
no way they get that %, cos I can bearly get projects turned in cos its down so much
<apc>
I'm torn. I can either completely revamp my cooling and duct it out the back, which complicates the rad, or I can leave it all the same and duct it out the top, so my case will be sitting here with a pipe coming out the top
<NeuralMiner>
finance isnt on the whitelist.
<xXUnRealXx>
sure is
<mrtrousers>
At some point theres a bottleneck on the network. I have a few megas and i getting very slow download speed for blocks
<xXUnRealXx>
your #2 lol so don't say its not
<mrtrousers>
...
<customminer>
xXUnRealXx: no, there's not really any other nci projects anymore
<NeuralMiner>
it's not whitelisted. you can look in your NN.
<mrtrousers>
It jumped from 19 to 33, and now showing 19 again..
<customminer>
xXUnRealXx: nothing stopping you running them though
<NeuralMiner>
customminer, this steem post about tipping boinc users, from what i'm getting from it, you'd actually have to run a separate BOINC project to be able to pull it off?
<xXUnRealXx>
why run it if no support from team. mind as well switch
<customminer>
WhitesoxCrypto: Can't delete a channel, just ignore it.
<NeuralMiner>
"In order to match user's CPID to crypto accounts/addresses, a BOINC project would need setup that provides additional crypto account/address fields."
<NeuralMiner>
i havent ran it since it went off the whitelist.
<WhitesoxCrypto>
customminer: I can definitevly remove it from my list... ;-)
<xXUnRealXx>
and u still get mag
<customminer>
NeuralMiner: Yeah, a project just with signup+profile functionality, no work units. Difficulty would lie in adding extra fields not different cryptos and exposing these in public-facing xml
<NeuralMiner>
hmm. so everyone running GRC would need to be a part of this project, correct?
<customminer>
yeah
<customminer>
well, if they wanted. It wouldn't be a whitelisted project.
<customminer>
Alternatively, you could register your alt-crypto address/accounts via op_return transactions to extend the neural network. That would require a method of extracting details from transactions though.
<xXUnRealXx>
i hear u
<xXUnRealXx>
but if its not white listed then why r u still collecting 225mag from it, if that's not cheating what is
<NeuralMiner>
customminer, the project method seems... not as slick.
<NeuralMiner>
how do you collect mag from a project that isnt whitelisted dude?
<mrtrousers>
I get 1 mega in and 77kb out.. That speed makes no sense
<xXUnRealXx>
i don't know
<NeuralMiner>
you dont.
<NeuralMiner>
look in your NN. i get no mag from finance.
<xXUnRealXx>
im just looking at the list and its still beying listed
<mrtrousers>
improving, lets see
<customminer>
NeuralMiner: It's easier for UI, ease of registering alt-addresses/accounts and extracting data. With a blockchain solution you need to create a raw transaction.
<xXUnRealXx>
they makes me believe its still there, thus the 101 questions
<NeuralMiner>
yeah, that's a good point customminer. that would make it so much easier. hmm.
<NeuralMiner>
xXUnRealXx, i'm pretty sure that's just because the gridresearch site hasnt been updated to remove finance.
<mrtrousers>
10 nodes supply the blockchain, I wonder how many people are downloading the blockchain right now..
<xXUnRealXx>
seems like you boys/gals/etc... are too busy on too many ideas. Why not finish 1 thing and move on so atleast we fix the NN / WEB LAGGGGG that would solve id say 80% of people questions/concers is something is working
<customminer>
xXUnRealXx: because I don't program the NN, if I was to do that I wouldn't be doing anything.
<customminer>
xXUnRealXx: you talking about gridresearchcorp? that's a 3rd party service that only an individual is in control of
<NeuralMiner>
!vote
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(49 / 17) - remove WuProp from the whitelist? (vote remove_wuprop_from_whitelist yes/no)
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<customminer>
xXUnRealXx: more hires? you mean more developers? a paid developer has been recruited a few days ago
<xXUnRealXx>
ok backing off a bit with all these Qs, ty for your PATIENCE
<xXUnRealXx>
nice
<xXUnRealXx>
only 1 ? lol sorry.. will shut it
<customminer>
np, got your own wee gridcoin/boinc related project?
<mrtrousers>
would you say the dev team is here for the long term?
<customminer>
xXUnRealXx: aye at the moment, we're a small crypto still
<xXUnRealXx>
i know i know, but sometimes when i get flashes of the history its hard to see it in its Infancy.. :()
<customminer>
mrtrousers: Hopefully, but we shouldn't rely on an individual - everyone should try to do their part, and recruiting more devs (especially free devs..) is important
<mrtrousers>
Copy that! :)
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<Erkan_Yilmaz>
voted on steemit, customminer
<customminer>
thanks Erkan_Yilmaz :)
<Erkan_Yilmaz>
:-)
<mrtrousers>
Boinc is still running on my computer even thoug i stopped it.. wtf
<mrtrousers>
Checking wit top and theres a boinc process jumpin around
<customminer>
mrtrousers: For how long? Is it a specific BOINC project work unit sticking around? You could either report it to the BOINC project admins directly (via email or project forum) or raise a new BOINC issue on github.
<mrtrousers>
It shows on and off, it appears a short moment.
<mrtrousers>
maybe gridcoin wallet does something boinc, dont know..
<customminer>
Don't think so..
<customminer>
I know there have been issues with BOINC mishandling suspended work status
<customminer>
in the past*
<customminer>
try closing the gridcoin client, checking if it stops?
<mrtrousers>
Now its gone.
<customminer>
hmm..
<customminer>
maybe by the gridcoin client accessing boinc files it's messing with the boinc client's ability to close properly? just a hunch.. worth a post in the announcement thread to get a reply from Rob.
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<mrtrousers>
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<customminer>
lol!
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