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<Mikaela> Sorry if I have asked this before, but was there any issue or command for seeing what exactly I have in "ipfs pin ls --type=recursive" ?
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<lidel> Mikaela, i am afraid all you can do right now is to inspect every CID manually. If you want you can import them to MFS and inspect via WebUI: ipfs files mkdir /recursive-pins ; for cid in $(ipfs pin ls --type=recursive -q); do ipfs files cp /ipfs/$cid /recursive-pins/$cid; done
<Mikaela> Is there any issue about that?
<lidel> we want to make it easier for desktop users by defaulting to MFS instead of low level pins, but it may be useful to provide 'view' into low level pins as well
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<Mikaela> Thanks :) I think that is enough for me to follow for now as I think I have everything I have pinned written down with explanation on what it is
<lidel> Added a comment there, in case someone wants to browse recursive pins via Web UI :)
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<Mikaela> What is the difference between ipfs-gui and ipfs-desktop?
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<lidel> one is the name of working group another one is name of WIP app that provides tray UI for go-ipfs
<Mikaela> oh, I see
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<b_five> hi fwends! just checking that vyzo's autorelay stuff is *not* in go-ipfs 0.4.18, correct?
<lidel> b_five, afaik no, I would be first to play with it :)
<lidel> what is available is manual relay introduced around v0.4.11 https://github.com/ipfs/go-ipfs/blob/master/docs/experimental-features.md#circuit-relay
<b_five> haha ok. So I'm correct in believing go-ipfs v0.4.18 roughly the same as 0.4.17 in terms of the "undialable peers" issue? or were other inroads made on NAT traversal recently?
<b_five> right, circuit relay I'm aware of
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<lidel> b_five, if you care about js-ipfs in web browser, it now has a preload enabled by default, you can use your own preload nodes as well: https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs/#optionspreload
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<lidel> this is a workaround for browser context until dht/autorelay lands
<lidel> but may also act as a workaround for NAT traversal issues
<b_five> hrm... so with preload you're syncing the contents of a designated peer's repo?
<b_five> (just making sure I understand preload correctly)
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<lidel> b_five, basically preload ensures CIDs for blocks you add to js-ipfs node are ALSO fetched by one of preload nodes (and those can be go-ipfs with more transports than js-ipfs in web browser)
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<lidel> that way (1) if your js-ipfs node goes down, the data is still in cache of preload node for some time (2) preload node can be reached by more nodes, improving seed discovery
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<b_five> ah yes, that makes lots of sense, unfortunately doesn't help with this issue. great to know preload exists tho!
<b_five> has anyone been looking into weather or not flipping to QUIC helps with NAT traversal issues?
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<Swedneck> could someone help me make a script that checks the files in a directory, adds those that have been modified since the script was last run to ipfs, and takes the hashes of all the files and adds it together into a hash with the same stricture as the directory?
<Swedneck> to put it another way: `ipfs add -r` but without re-adding files that haven't been touched
<ToxicFrog> Swedneck: how is what you want different from the existing behaviour? If the files haven't been changed `ipfs add` will re-scan them but the data won't be duplicated in the IPFS repo or anything.
<Swedneck> ah right i keep forgetting, i need --no-copy
<ToxicFrog> That's orthogonal, but yes, if you added them once with --no-copy and again without it, I think it will copy the contents into the repo the second time.
<Swedneck> no i need to use --no-copy every time
<ToxicFrog> ...yes?
<Swedneck> i'm keeping a mirror of the fdroid repo on ipfs
<ToxicFrog> so I'm pretty sure you just need `ipfs add -r --no-copy` every time you want to update it
<Swedneck> well that works, but it's insanely slow
<Swedneck> even with badger
<Swedneck> it also seems to re-add every single file each time, or it just does that when a long time passes between running it
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<ToxicFrog> What do you mean by "re-add" here? The file gets a different hash?
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<ToxicFrog> Because, yes, it's going to scan the files to make sure they haven't changed, but if they hash the same they should get the same CID and not take up any additional space in the repo.
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<fiatjaf> --fscache?
<fiatjaf> you should use mfs
<fiatjaf> it's much faster to update an mfs directory and then get the hash of that
<fiatjaf> I think
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<Swedneck> but my issue is updating it, i'd still have to run `ipfs add` with mfs
<Swedneck> and it's `ipfs add` which is the problem, since it's going to go through every single file and add it no matter if it's been modified since it was last added
<Swedneck> what it should do (and i think this is what it does without --no-copy), is keep track of when each file was last added, and only add it again if it's been modified, otherwise it'll just use the stored hash
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<fiatjaf> Swedneck, use a Makefile
<fiatjaf> maybe?
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<fiatjaf> actually, no
<Swedneck> what's that?
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<Swedneck> oh wait make, isn't that used for compiling stuff?
<fiatjaf> actually, it's a thing for tracking dependencies
<fiatjaf> so it'll only run commands when stuff has changed
<fiatjaf> I'll write a sample for you
<fiatjaf> are you on linux?
<Swedneck> ofc
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<fiatjaf> blergh
<fiatjaf> you'll need some form of indicator of the last time the command was run
<fiatjaf> maybe it's better to write a script
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<Swedneck> tbh it should be built in to `ipfs add`
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<Swedneck> this seems related
<fiatjaf> ipfs add cannot know your file hasn't changed
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<fiatjaf> the solution suggested on that issue would need some form of internal cache of the last time each file was ipfsadded
<Swedneck> Just check the modified date?
<fiatjaf> check against what?
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<Swedneck> against that proposed internal cache?
<Swedneck> hell you could probably just have a file with 3 columns: file, last added date, and hash
<Swedneck> when you run `ipfs add` on a file, it checks if it has already been added. If it has, then it checks if the last modified date is before the last added date. If that checks out, it just uses the hash listed instead of re-adding the file
<Swedneck> kinda naive, sure, but it saves a ton of time and processing
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