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<postables[m]2> @hugbubby (looks like cross-server mentions don't work through bridge) but I've got a project that's essentially doing that amongst other things
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<postables[m]2> *edit:* ~~@hugbubby (looks like cross-server mentions don't work through bridge) but I've got a project that's essentially doing that amongst other things~~ -> @hugbubby (looks like cross-server mentions don't work through bridge) I've got a project that's essentially doing that amongst other things
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<woss_io> hi guys, how do i get CID of and photo without uploading it to the ipfs itself. thanks
<lidel> woss_io, ipfs add --help | grep only-hash
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<woss_io> lidel thanks, I meant programmatically, I'd love to use ipfs and ipld in the future, that's why I was thinking to use CID already without actually uploading anything to ipfs but still creating the hash as it is used in ipfs. does that make any sense?
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<lidel> woss_io, hm.. if you want to create the same CID as `ipfs add --only-hash` you probably want to look into unixfs: https://github.com/ipfs/specs/tree/master/unixfs and default chunker
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<lidel> but it may be easier to delegate the task to ipfs cli for now and focus on your app
<woss_io> yeah, makes more sense than reinventing the wheel. if i could just have s3 daemon running so i can access it through the other services.
<lidel> and not sure if there will be any value in using CID if you don't plan to use IPFS. If you just want to have future-proof alternative to sha256 use raw multihash (https://github.com/multiformats/multihash/) without CID wrapper
<lidel> this removes the chunker and other ipfs-specific parts from the picture
<woss_io> for the project i'd LOVE to use ipfs and ipld, since it shares similar vision in photography world. but for the proof of concept and MVP1 i'd love to have as much as private ipfs on s3 as possible since, it's a new tech and i wouldn't like to leak any sensitive info.
<lidel> yeah, private ipfs instance or a cluster sounds fine. you dont have to be a part of the mainnet, and can decide to join at a later time. https://cluster.ipfs.io may be useful if you plan to scale up in the future.
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<woss_io> can you please check this out, for me it hangs on last line https://gist.github.com/woss/83d01dce3368c785f5703e6a4e8c8ca2 image is usually 5-10 MB
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<elux> hi there
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<elux> im thinking to use ipfs pubsub as a transport between peers to sync a local database id's (where data is in IPFS) -- but, im trying to think first, how reliable is the pubsub transport? ie. if i see a peer is subscribed to a topic, can i assume reliable delievery of that info? or should i build in some send/ack+retry system over the transport?
<elux> does ipfs pubsub have a limit on number of topic subscriptions a particular node can make? how about number of topics to publish to? how about message publish rate limit..?
<elux> i am thinking to create a "hub" node in a pubsub system to help peers who are not online, where they can query a "superpeer", aka the hub, to fetch data for their topics once they come back online
<elux> i could of course use a completely different transport here.. like just straight libp2p, or something else.. but i'd prefer to use the ipfs stack straight up if possible. especially with the new gossipsub stuff thats being worked on
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<elux> https://www.reddit.com/r/ipfs/comments/8aczsm/not_all_nodes_listening_on_pubsub_topic_receiving/ -- this sounds reasonable, so long as its actually accurate
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<Testerbit> I'm looking at js-ipfs, and I see there used to be a method addFromFs(https://github.com/ipfs/interface-ipfs-core/blob/master/SPEC/FILES.md#javascript---ipfsaddfromfspath-option-callback), it seems in the latest version it's not there, is there a new method to replace it?
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<iwantipfs[m]> Hi, after uploading a file in IPFS (remote node, not local), what are the ways to access the file from the IPFS apart from using the IPFS gateweay url with hash.
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<voker57> iwantipfs[m]: using ipfs get /ipfs/hash on any node
<voker57> also, you don't "upload" files to ipfs, you make them available via your node
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<vmx> Testerbit: addFromFs got recently moved up to the top level of the ipfs object https://github.com/ipfs/js-ipfs#files. though i don't think that was released yet
<aschmahmann[m]> iwantipfs: you can also use the IPFS daemon's HTTP API to send commands like ipfs get from whatever programming language/environment you want
<Testerbit> vmx, thanks
<Testerbit> does ipfs-js require running a daemon locally? Wondering if I can integrate into an electron app, without needing to install the IPFS.
<aschmahmann[m]> no it does not
<aschmahmann[m]> it will run in a web browser even without a daemon running locally
<vmx> Testerbit: you can run js-ipfs in your electron app, you won't need a local go deamon
<elux> vmx: however, js-ipfs in electron uses a central relay server, no?
<Testerbit> ok, great I had some issues, but perhaps it's related to working in a dev environment. I think some objects get unmounted but the IPFS instance is not disconnected as it's not GC'd. Is there a way I can manually tell the `node` object to disconnect when some component unmounts?
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<elux> some kind of websocket, webrtc, or http-api service.. that is the "Swarm" address for peer discovery -- i wonder if its just discovery or if that service is the transport for the entirety of the communicatoin
<vmx> elux: if you want to connect to the rest of the world, yes
<elux> which makes it a central point of failure
<elux> the webrtc server can prob do better, and just be used for signaling to setup initial connections between peers
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<elux> s/server/service
<Testerbit> I see a `shutDown` method but can't find any documentation. I'm guessing that's what I'm looking for
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<iwantipfs[m]> Thanks @asc
<iwantipfs[m]> Thanks aschmahmann voker57
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<Testerbit> is the js-ipfs api strictly using callbacks or is there a version that will work with promises?
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<iwantipfs[m]> Is there a possibility with IPFS in terms of events that trigger actions that modify the content in specific paths in the filesystem ?
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<aschmahmann[m]> iwantipfs: can you give a particular example to make it more concrete?
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<iwantipfs[m]> say for example, whenever a new file is added in a specific path, it will trigger an action, where we can perform some updates of logging or calling some services or add or remove files etc. Something similar to triggers in MySQL.
<iwantipfs[m]> <aschmahmann[m] "iwantipfs: can you give a partic"> say for example, whenever a new file is added in a specific path, it will trigger an action, where we can perform some updates of logging or calling some services or add or remove files etc. Something similar to triggers in MySQL.
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<aschmahmann[m]> I'm not sure if there are tools from the IPFS side to register those events, but you should be able to register events if you mount a directory
<aschmahmann[m]> iwantipfs: I'm not sure if there are tools from the IPFS side to register those events, but you should be able to register events if you mount a directory
<aschmahmann[m]> for instance inotify might be able to help you out on linux distributions
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<iwantipfs[m]> Another question, is it possible to use IPFS to store the app. state data / logical data (as in a normal database) apart from the files?
<aschmahmann[m]> iwantipfs: yes IPFS is meant to store any data in a content addressable way.
<voker57> you can store anything if you can transform it to a DAG
<aschmahmann[m]> the standard file system abstraction is just one way to look at the problem
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<iwantipfs[m]> Sure thanks. How good is orbit-db in resolving these issues (performance, easy to use data models etc), does it have events?
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<carsonfarmer[m]> Hey iwantipfs
<carsonfarmer[m]> Just wanted to mention, Textile is in the process of building out several of these types of features, including events
<carsonfarmer[m]> in particular, we had a need to store app and shared state on ipfs for textile photos, so we're rolling this out into its own 'thing'
<carsonfarmer[m]> You can see some of the progress here: https://github.com/textileio/textile-go
<carsonfarmer[m]> the Cafe-based Backup, Recovery, and Inboxing project has most of that in there now, but we're slowly 'boxing it up' for wider/easier external use
<carsonfarmer[m]> end shameless self promotion
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<carsonfarmer[m]> Anyway, the TL;DR on that is that we should have a mobile framework that greatly simplifies building and running a mobile (and desktop/server) app on IPFS/libp2p.
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