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<stevenaleach> Probably an odd question, but is there any current multi* specification for pseudo-random number generators or does anyone know of a reason to expect there to be?
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<stevenaleach> I'm working on a project that I want to be as essentially ipfs "native" as possible, and a fundamental mechanism in it involves "state vectors" transitioning back to root identity states which are produced by a step function which combines two hash functions - I'm just using sha3 and sha2 and think those are good basic choices, but am including variable_uint fields with multihash values for them... and i'm going to
<stevenaleach> include another such field should a different rng be desired -- which leads to my question regarding an existing or expected list of prng codes. If there is none expected, I may just use 127 for the default I've chosen (pcg) being highest 1byte vuint value and probably higher than any list I don't know about yet??
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<stevenaleach> So I'm guessing that's a not on any talk of a pseudo-random-number-generation multi-code table??
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<Kolonka[m]> No, you just joined during some dead hours.
<Kolonka[m]> (which is most of the time)
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<ctOS> ipfs-desktop won’t talk to the ipfs companion in Firefox nightly anymore. macOS and Windows alike. Is this a known issue?
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<Mikaela> Sorry if I have asked this before, but can I somehow disable IPv4 entirely with IPFS? This node is behind dualstack lite and "killed" it a moment ago stopping all IPv4 pages. It seems that removing the /ip4/ swarm entries is not enough as I still see IPv4 peers. Also should everything keep working with IPv4 disabled if there has been any testing?
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<lidel> ctOS, no, please fill an issue: https://github.com/ipfs-shipyard/ipfs-companion/issues - thanks!
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<ctOS> lidel: https://github.com/ipfs-shipyard/ipfs-companion/issues/622 any details you’d like me to add?
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<ctOS> lidel: identified the problem and added details to the bug. :-)
<lidel> ctOS, thanks! will follow up there
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<Swedneck> So what do we think about setting up the discord bridge?
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<AphelionZ> @Swedneck yes please
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<Swedneck> i guess at this point we're just wainting for someone on the ipfs team to take it upon themselves to get things done?
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<elux> hey all
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<lidel> hey :)
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<shoku[m]> Hey everyone
<shoku[m]> Jesus, they couldn't have made joining Matrix more difficult if they tried to
<shoku[m]> Phone, email confirmation, TOS check, select specific server and channel, accept invite. I've been to speakeasys that are easier to get in!
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<shoku[m]> Hey lidel whyrusleeping we should catch up! Got a bunch of Epona news to discuss. djdv 's helped us too.
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<shoku[m]> Also our unofficial IPFS/Protocol Discord server has grown to 75 people now (up from 5 last month). I'd love to talk with someone about setting up a bridge between here and there. Can we make that happen?
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<lidel> hi shoku[m], Swedneck been asking about discord bridge too. Not sure what is the situation. I think daviddias[m] started using Riot recently and did some cleanup on Matrix side(?) so may have proper rights to make it happen.
<shoku[m]> Sweet, I'll follow up
<lidel> btw: which bridge instance you had in mind? https://t2bot.io/discord/ ?
<shoku[m]> I'm fine with any tbh. Whatever is the easier implementation. I just want more people to be able to connect to either server
<shoku[m]> @swedneck has a bridge available, that could be one solution. If PL wants control over the solution (understandable), cool with that too
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<lidel> Yeah I'd say Discord bridge makes sense, it looks fine on both ends (the instance from t2bot.io does puppets, so everyone has own nick, picture interop between matrix and discord works fine as well)
<Swedneck> o/
<shoku[m]> Sweet, sounds like what we need
<Swedneck> t2bot.io is slooooooow
<shoku[m]> So should I follow up with daviddias then?
<Swedneck> that's the only reason not to use it
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<shoku[m]> I mean I'm sure it's not slow enough that we can't use it. I like the idea of puppets
<lidel> shoku[m], yes, or someone else with admin on Matrix (not sure who is that, this instance is pure irc and I don't see it)
<shoku[m]> Who do you think might know?
<Swedneck> i don't i'm pretty sure it doesn't do puppets
<Swedneck> since puppets break discord ToS
<Swedneck> all IRC OPs are moderators on matrix
<Swedneck> however it would be best to make a new IPFS room on matrix, and bridge that manually
<shoku[m]> Your statement includes lidel . That seems wrong
<Swedneck> it's impossible to get an admin in this room
<Swedneck> oh lol, i forgot to specify that it's irc that would be manually bridged
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<shoku[m]> Ok :) Let's split those 2 efforts apart I think
<shoku[m]> 1) matrix <> discord
<shoku[m]> 2) irc <> discord
<Swedneck> the technical term is a plumbed room, instead of portal room, i believe
<shoku[m]> Maybe we should focus on getting 1 done first
<shoku[m]> I think lidel 's solution of using t2bot.io sounds good. Sounds like he's not the right person to get it setup though. I'll follow up with daviddias .
<Swedneck> well the thing is that matrix <> discord would have to be re-done
<shoku[m]> Re-done? Was it already done? or you mean in the future? How come?
<Swedneck> and at some point the matrix room would have to be re-made anyways, so it would be great to just do it all at once
<Swedneck> well as i said it's impossible to get an admin in this room
<shoku[m]> I don't think we can ask to completely rearchitecture the Matrix channel just fo rthis bridge :)
<Swedneck> the solution is to make a new room, trasnfer all the aliases, and bridge that new room to IRC
<Swedneck> it's not for the discord bridge
<shoku[m]> There's 4.2k people here
<Swedneck> it's so the room can be properly moderated and so we can change the room name
<shoku[m]> No one has admin in the room here?
<Kolonka[m]> It would probably be nice to have the permissions more mutable in the Matrix room regardless of the other bridges shokushoku
<Kolonka[m]> nice riot pinging twice there
<shoku[m]> Right. Sounds like a different problem altogether tbh
<shoku[m]> If the Matrix channel moves, we'll fix the bridge. Who cares.
<shoku[m]> I wouldn't mix the problems here
<Swedneck> most are from IRC
<Swedneck> well the IRC bridge is admin, but it can't make anyone else admin
<Kolonka[m]> It is - when non-matrix rooms are "joined" on Matrix, rather than created, I believe another non-individual account is created with the admin permissions
<Kolonka[m]> for example, @appservice-irc:matrix.org in this room
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<Kolonka[m]> so it takes a user's account to create one first
<Swedneck> it's really quite important to make a new room
<Kolonka[m]> then the appropriate bridges can be made
<Swedneck> don't get me wrong, i really want the discord bridge, but all the things we've talked about should be done as soon as possible
<shoku[m]> Right. I think whether to move rooms or not should be handled by whoever handles here
<shoku[m]> As for the bridge, it's not blocked by this issue. We can setup the bridge now. If things change in the future, we'll change the bridge too.
<Swedneck> well it's not a question of "if"
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<elux> with ipfs/ipld and the dag api -- how can i create an ordered list structure? it should be a simple linked list, what i cant figure out is how to query a chunk of the tree from one cid, and traverse up to X more levels following a next or prev link?
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<lidel> elux, so the use case is 'fetching a subtree of a graph'? it sounds like what "Proposal: GraphSync (A)" aims to deliver: https://github.com/ipld/specs/pulls
<lidel> or you just look into creating data structures?
<lidel> Swedneck, shoku[m] fyi permissions on Matrix look like this: https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmUSukpHpHyhVDhQKGTqTUqV8P2hrPup38hJawj1VcrQg3/2018-11-16--21-56-30.png Are we able to set up bridge with Moderator?
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<Swedneck> yes
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<Swedneck> disregard the stage where you invite the bride, it's already in the room
<lidel> Is there a single Discord or do we flip a coin? ;)
<shoku[m]> There is a single one
<shoku[m]> Thank god hahaha :)
<shoku[m]> We just chatted with @swedneck and if you're ok with setting up the bridge now, we're good to go
<Swedneck> 475789330380488707/475789330380488709 this is what you'll want to bridge to
<lidel> can I get discord invite tho?
<shoku[m]> yup
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<shoku[m]> (If someone here is a reddit admin, would love to talk about pinning the topic and adding it to the sidebar, but that's not urgent)
<shoku[m]> (If someone here is a reddit mod, would love to talk about pinning the topic and adding it to the sidebar, but that's not urgent)
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<lidel> !discord bridge 475789330380488707 475789330380488709
<DiscordBridge[m]> There was a problem bridging that channel - has the guild owner approved the bridge?
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<Swedneck> the bot isn't in the discord guild
<lidel> shoku[m], i think I'll need admin on discord to set this up
<Swedneck> i'll see if i can maybe add it
<Swedneck> i can!
<Swedneck> ok try now
<lidel> !discord bridge 475789330380488707 475789330380488709
<DiscordBridge[m]> I'm asking permission from the guild administrators to make this bridge.
<DiscordBridge[m]> I have bridged this room to your channel
<Swedneck> test
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<lidel[m]2> hi from Discord o/
<Swedneck> oh wow that's slow
<Swedneck> Or was that just clientside?
<lidel> we know it works, and its basically 1 command to bridge and one to unbridge, so we can always swithc to faster one
<lidel> (it was >10 seconds on my end)
<Swedneck> mine's a lot faster
<Swedneck> usually less than 1 second
<Swedneck> someone should start a discussion so we have more data :P
<lidel> I think irc <-> discord will be the slowest as it needs to pass over 2 bridges
<Swedneck> How slow is the irc bridge?
<lidel> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
<Swedneck> and there we go, the bridge pinged a discord user :D
<Swedneck> That pinged 2 of them!
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<lidel> ok, need to run, in case bridge misbehaves anyone with OP on irc can fix/switch
<Swedneck> 👍
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<svitx> I'm lokoing to add Backblaze B2 support to IPFS, and I'm looking at go-ds-redis just to understand how everything fits together. Anyone know how I would activate that inside go-ipfs?
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<svitx> It looks like I need to write a shim that would reside somewhere like go-ipfs/plugin/plugins/redis/redis.go to tie it in..
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<elux> lidel: yes, fetching subtree of a graph. when you say, "look into creating data structures" you mean my own linked-list structure, where a new node will have a `prev: <multihash>` inside an object? that would work, i believe traversal here will be O(n) number of network requests though -- or let me know if im thinking about this wrong
<elux> thanks for the suggestions
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<shoku[m]1> This is great!
<shoku[m]1> Thanks for helping lidel
<shoku[m]1> and thanks for driving this swedneck
<Swedneck> 👌
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