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<nickdex[m]>
What happens if I have pinned a folder in MFS but not individual files, and I run ipfs repo gc.
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<deltab>
nickdex[m]: as I understand it, anything reachable from MFS is protected
<deltab>
you can try it out on a test repo
<nickdex[m]>
<deltab "nickdex: as I understand it, any"> Hmm, okay somehow im able play videos in sibling folder (which i added using `ipfs add -r --nocopy`) but not files in folder added using `ipfs add -r --nopin=false --nocopy`
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<nickdex[m]>
<nickdex[m] "Hmm, okay somehow im able play v"> *--pin=false
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<antiroach>
hi, i just setup an ipfs node today; i have a bunch of disk space and bandwidth. im currently only hosting 6 MB of files, how can i host more?
<adhoc>
when you start browsing the things out there, that cache seems to get larger
<antiroach>
gotcha. i have multiple mounted filesystems on my computer. how can i tell where the data is being store? and how can i change where its being stored
<adhoc>
not sure if all implementtations store in the same place, have a look in ~/.ipfs/
* adhoc
is a n ipfs newbie, so ...
<antiroach>
~/.ipfs is on my root drive and that seems to be where all the blocks are
<antiroach>
i dont want the date to go there; any idea on how to change it?
<antiroach>
also should i be able to see what files im hosting?
<antiroach>
when i click 'files' it shows nothing
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<adhoc>
i think the "files" is the section of things you upload
<antiroach>
ah ok, makes sense why i dont see anything heh
<adhoc>
and the store seems to be in the user home directory that runs the process.
<nickdex[m]>
Ipfs uses filestore for normal operation which is by default stored at `~/.ipfs`. You can change that by setting IPFS_PATH env var.
<nickdex[m]>
Keep in mind that while thats great of browsing, if you are trying to host i.e. add content from your own storage you might want to consider using filestore (to avoid duplicates) `ipfs add --nocopy`
<nickdex[m]>
*Files* section in wibui is for MFS, basically you can use ipfs just as unixfs, with familiar commands like ls, mkdir, cp, rm etc. Check `ipfs files --help`
<antiroach>
not sure i understood most of that. was that english lol
<antiroach>
im trying to 'donate' my bandwidth and storage
<antiroach>
i was expecting my node would download lots of data and upload lots of data as well
<antiroach>
but the network activity shows 100kb/sec in and out
<antiroach>
oh actually do i need to setup port forwarding rules in my router?
<ripply[m]>
its not going to automatically fetch data and seed, you have to do that manually
<antiroach>
ah ok
<antiroach>
i guess i misunderstood the goal of this technology/project
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<nickdex[m]>
<antiroach "i guess i misunderstood the goal"> Slightly though, if you keep ipfs node running in background and use Internet, you will start storing ipfs enabled data over time. You will then "host" that so to speak to other users. Its not going suddenly start using GBs of space
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<nickdex[m]>
<nickdex[m] "Slightly though, if you keep ipf"> Unless you take some steps to contribute your space even more than default
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<aphelionz[m]>
antiroach: I think what you want to offer is a public gateway
<aphelionz[m]>
Ah looks like they might be gone
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<RubenKelevra>
nickdex:
<RubenKelevra>
just note that there are also lazy mounts, so you can for example do a `ipfs files cp /ipfs/<CID> /folder` of a very large folder and it won't be copied to your node. Only stuff you access or pin will be copied.
<RubenKelevra>
So not everything you can see in the MFS is necessarily locally stored
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<RubenKelevra>
I've started a discussion about the native support of Pacman to fetch packages and databases from the IPFS-API.
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<JCaesar>
ruben_kelevra: "no need to fetch and open large folders" correct me if I'm wrong, but the folder information shouldn't be that big?
<JCaesar>
It only contains the file size, file names, and CIDs of the files (plus some overhead for a tree/list structure). So even for community, that'd be a few MB, maybe?
<JCaesar>
and you would only download that ~once per pacman -Syu, so…
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<RubenKelevra>
<JCaesar "ruben_kelevra: "no need to fetch"> The amount isn't the issue. A folder contains the size, the name and the hash of the elements - but not the type. To display a folder, the client has to fetch the metadata of all elements to see if they are files or folders. If you got many elements, the roundtrips for fetching this will take a while
<JCaesar>
ls controls that with the --resolve-type option.
<JCaesar>
(just to make sure we're talking about the same thing)
<RubenKelevra>
yes we're talking about the same thing
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<JCaesar>
Does that happen under normal pacman operation, resolving the types?
<RubenKelevra>
I'm note sure ... actually, there are other issues.
<RubenKelevra>
If you don't ping the node you cannot find the folder via DHT
<RubenKelevra>
the first operation is basiclly instant, while I cancelled the second after 4 minutes
<RubenKelevra>
and that's with a direct connection to the server holding it already established
<RubenKelevra>
It takes even on the node holding the folder 10 seconds to complete - if the folder gets addressed by the CID
<JCaesar>
Getting that folder took around 2 secs, it holds 10207 entries. So yeah, expect to bc
<JCaesar>
…
<JCaesar>
expect to wait some 5 hours for that ls
<RubenKelevra>
and doing a full ls on it?
<JCaesar>
I don't know, I won't wait around for that. ;)
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<RubenKelevra>
Well, community isn't much smaller: 7617 entries: QmVw1oAGgQXyMXQzH5qhjTQ574qEhaWrQpWZDQrEx3WEjh
<JCaesar>
What I'm trying to get at is… that full wouldn't happen during pacman -Syu if you use the mirror via the http gateway.
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<RubenKelevra>
<JCaesar "What I'm trying to get at is… th"> probably not, but pacman still times out after 10 seconds on all requests ... at least at the time I had run 0.4.23 on the server
<RubenKelevra>
Now I'm running 0.5.0-dev
<RubenKelevra>
maybe it's better now
<RubenKelevra>
can you do a fresh start of your node, wait until it's properly connected and try to fetch this file?
<RubenKelevra>
just to get a sense for the current performance?
<JCaesar>
without ping?
<RubenKelevra>
yes without ping
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<JCaesar>
I bet five fake internet points on "it times out"
<RubenKelevra>
yeah
<JCaesar>
I doubt that changes if I have the CID of 0ad-a23.1-8-x86_64.pkg.tar.zst and get it directly via that?
<RubenKelevra>
you can try:
<RubenKelevra>
bafkreiaz23uzskfzravkqv4shch3x3zln35zofkichiojzpp2nymjdgs4m <-- a different file to avoid that your client already got the file locally in his cache
<RubenKelevra>
I can't fetch it in a reasonable amount of time
<RubenKelevra>
But the issue with using folders is: The issue get's way worse, since you do a 5 roundtrips fetch, because of the sublevel
<RubenKelevra>
with the CID you can just query the DHT and use ANY peer. While using partially updates on a filestructure is too slow for pinning, so you have to pin the files individually on a cluster and just one peer can hold the folders, since the cluster cannot pin non-recursive at the moment
<RubenKelevra>
If you have any idea how to fix this, I'm open for suggestions
<JCaesar>
Oh wow, I stand corrected. the CID actually did get me the file.
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<JCaesar>
(I forgot to put time in front of it so now I don't know how long it took. :( )
<RubenKelevra>
just run `ipfs repo gc`, restart the client and try again :)
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<RubenKelevra>
or if you want to skip the gc part, I can give you a different one
<RubenKelevra>
ˈt͡sɛːzaɐ̯: try this one: bafkreietbgi32qq4ki3nsj5qvhldarxw6zgdqruuved2nmfwh6xwacnkwq
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<RubenKelevra>
My suspection: My two servers have a hard time feeding the DHT with all those hashes for the data....
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<swedneck>
sure, just symlink that directory
<swedneck>
i just have ~/.ipfs on a separate ssd
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<RubenKelevra>
<sexyganondorfDiscord[m] "I just started using the desktop"> Did the command return or is it stuck?
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<RubenKelevra>
You can set the enviorment variable IPFS_PATH with the path you like. But that's the whole .ipfs folder
<RubenKelevra>
This might even work on non unix systems
<RubenKelevra>
I don't know ;)
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<RubenKelevra>
<sexyganondorfDiscord[m] "it didn't return"> Well that's weird, but I don't give support for Windows - since I have zero knowledge about running IPFS on Windows. :)
<swedneck>
<sexyganondorfDiscord[m] "and <span class="d-mention d-use"> might be useful to not use POSIX expressions when it's not about posix :P
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<RubenKelevra>
:D
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