02:26 <chewitt> Darkmatter66: I don't see how that's difficult either :)

09:16 <narmstrong> Hans made it explicit the firmware should be in the Linux-firmware repo in order to get the driver merged

09:17 <narmstrong> So lawers are still discussing something, but we are pushing to get a formal redistribution licence

11:47 <Darkmatter66> narmstrong, is this a new requirement from the media guys? I think there are some dvb drivers that don't have their firmwares in linux-firmware repo.

11:50 <narmstrong> Darkmatter66: it’s quite recent yes, all these rules on firmware changed recently

12:41 <ndufresne> narmstrong, Hans can't really enforce the rule, it's more a wish, CODA as an example does not have the firmware there, it's been under discussion with NXP for over 5 years

12:42 <ndufresne> but NXP never released the binary under GPLv2, probably the most silly thing to do legally

12:42 <ndufresne> one motivated user could sew them to get the code

12:45 <narmstrong> ndufresne: sure, but Mauro could block the PR for the same reason, this is what Hans explained

12:47 <narmstrong> ndufresne: the FW doesn't necessarily needs to be GPLv2, it only has to have a clear redistribution licence, other WiFi firmware have quite restrictive licence, but are allowed to be redistributed in the linux-firmware repo

12:50 <ndufresne> narmstrong, what I'm saying is that CODA was merge and the firmware is not there, b43 wifi driver is also merged, there is some "open source" firmware now, but it was merged before that, and the open firmware don't work most of the time

12:50 <ndufresne> they also staged Tegra 2 codec, firmware is not included

12:50 <ndufresne> there is zillion of case where the driver got merged before the firmware legal was solved

12:51 <ndufresne> (even case where the legal will never be solved)

12:52 <ndufresne> narmstrong, what I would do is submit the patchset with the promise that you are making best effort to get these legal issue solved

12:52 <narmstrong> Well this is what we already did !

12:53 <ndufresne> then we should make a case at the next media summit

12:53 <ndufresne> keeping code out of tree for this reason makes collaboration on the main goal (the driver) impossible

12:56 <mjourdan> ndufresne: I'll repost a patchset soon, indicating that matters with the FW are still on hold

12:57 <mjourdan> we'll see what happens

12:58 <ndufresne> ok

13:00 <ndufresne> narmstrong, btw, do you have a lawyer on the case ? or is this all in Amlogic hands ?

13:03 <narmstrong> It’s in amlogic hands

15:50 <Xogium> so I've heard linux 5.0 kernel is bad with odroid c2 and eMMC, is this confirmed ? I hesitate migrating