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<xXxDSMer> o/
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<xXxDSMer> anyone know how possible it might be to run linux and watch hulu with a RK292X (1.2Ghz single core, 512mb ram, mali-400 mp gpu)?
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<rperier_> hi, did you see the presentation at ELCE about how to boot Linux in one second ? seriously... 656ms :D
<mmind00> rperier_: but also not that new anymore :-)
<mmind00> haven't seen this one, but I saw some version of that on LinuxTag in 2013
<rperier_> it was about a mainline kernel... or modified kernel like uclinux ?
<rperier_> yeah perhaps, that's not completly new, but technically that's a good challenge anyway, imho :)
<rperier_> that's just that I am watching ELCE videos right now ;D
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<Amit_> Hello, can any one please point me out , how hard is to boot upstrem linux on tronsmart r68 orion?
<Amit_> Has anyone booted it in el2 mode?
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<aep> jo. anyone has seen the rga2 driver and knows what the difference between rga and rga2 is?
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<aep> i'm debugging a box which has out of bounds errors all over the place. i'm blaming that thing
<mmind00> aep: just different versions of the IP-block I'd guess
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<ganbold> does anyone have rk3288 device boot log?
<sjoerd> ganbold: kernelci.org
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<aep> mmind00: nah i have both
<aep> rga doesnt work for me
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<mmind00> aep: no you haven't :-P ... rk3188 and before have rga blocks, while rk3288 and later have rga2 blocks
<ganbold> hm, can't find SCU address
<chris2> Beelink i68 was the same hw as orion meta no?
<chris2> hm, 8gb vs 16gb emmc
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<aep> mmind00: aaah thats what you meant by IP blocks. that makes sense
<aep> does anyone have an rga2 driver i could compare?
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<naobsd> to get el2, "mainline linux" shouldn't be the matter... we need bootloader at first ;)
<Amit_> naobsd; ok Thanks, you mean to say support needs to be added in bootloader to boot linux in el2?
<naobsd> Amit_: I think so
<Amit_> ok.
<Amit_> naobsd: Sorry for this stupid question but if I get r68 , how do I make its serial working (as it doesn't have serial working), also my host machine don't have serial port.
<naobsd> Amit_: open R68, then you can see UART2 and UART4 TX/RX holes
<naobsd> UART2 and SD share pins, so if you want to use SD card slot, you should use UART4 instead of UART2
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<naobsd> if you don't need SD, you can use SD breakout board to get UART2 pins and avoid "open R68"
<naobsd> shop description is right. it's not officially supported at all
<naobsd> it's only for people who know how to use it
<naobsd> I also cannot guarantee it
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<Amit_> ok , Actually I have limited amount of money , so I just wanted to make sure if I buy it , I should be able to use it.
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<hipboi> New RK3228 and RK3399?
<Amit_> naobsd: Just final question , USB to TTL serial cable would be ok to use to connect to host machine ?
<topi`> hipboi: can you explain why there are so few ARM boards on the market with SATA?
<naobsd> Amit_: 3.3V one
<naobsd> Amit_: USB-TTL 3.3V is ok
<hipboi> topi`: :) ok, let me explain, because SATA is a desktop thing
<topi`> i've been hunting SATA boards for ages now and only come up with halfway creations, like SATA implemented with a slow sata-usb bridge, etc etc
<topi`> SATA is also a server thing :)
<hipboi> topi`: the new ARM processor is mostly for mobile
<naobsd> Amit_: what's your goal with r68?
<hipboi> mobile is the growing fast recently
<topi`> hipboi: btw, would you happen to have any advance view on Rockchip's roadmaps? I wonder if they have the A72 core in their plans
<topi`> the A72 would be a killer core, we could finally forget about the sluggishness of the A53
<hipboi> topi`: rockchip has licensed A72
<topi`> well, that must mean something :) but I hope they will move engineering resources from those fruitless Intel projects to the a72 chip
<hipboi> but i think it will be at least q3 or q4 2016
<Amit_> naobsd: Actually , I wanted to just learn KVM on to it.
<naobsd> Amit_: is really RK3368 the best for it?
<topi`> hipboi: what do you think Rockchip should do so that we get better Linux mainline support for the RK* chips?
<mmind00> there have been of course already patches submitted for some yet unanounced rk3399 ;-)
<xming> Amit_: you want to learn KVM on arm or just KVM in general?
<Amit_> Sorry , KVM on armv8
<mmind00> topi`: ^^ take that for "mainline support" ;-)
<xming> my ttl cable is taking a very slow boat from China to me :/
<topi`> mmind00: yeah, I just hope it would work "all the way". I have a stupid Qualcomm Snapdragon 600 based board (APQ8064) that only happens to work with QC's old 3.4 based kernel, all mainline attempts fail because of some power management issue
<topi`> what's the use of a 4.1 kernel if it means that the device will lock up randomly
<topi`> the closed-source GPU is not on my list of worries, since I'm doing headless things
<naobsd> if you use RK3368, you need to manage bootloader at first
<Amit_> xming; Is there any other armv8 board which comes under 80$ ?
<Amit_> naobsd: ok
<mmind00> topi`: what I meant, Rockchip is submitting patches for a soc that hasn't even been anounced yet ... there is just some strange facebook site around (from inphic, whatever that is)
<topi`> the RK3368 is a good choice for entrylevel armv8, however, is it possible to clock it higher than 1.2 GHz? that speed is fairly lackluster
<topi`> mmind00: it's not the first time when rockchip has done fairly strange things :) but at least their products are better than Allwinner's
<topi`> it seems Allwinner is doing badly these days; might have something to do with the decline of tablet sales
<topi`> and on the TV box front the competition is fierce; Amlogic produces some solid chips, RK chips are all good for tv boxes, etc etc
<mmind00> I'm always unsure who buys all these tv boxes anyway ;-)
<topi`> yeah
<topi`> it's mind blowing to find 1000s of tv box models all with almost identical specs :)
<naobsd> I guess most people on here have no interest about "which tv box is nice" ;)
<topi`> naobsd: all I care is if I can run linux on it :)
<naobsd> $50 rk3368 box? really?
<naobsd> topi`: all android device has linux kernel ;)
<topi`> that's true, but some are more difficult to handle than others
<topi`> are there any rumors about the internals of the RK3399? What kind of cores will it use?
<topi`> I wonder if RK has licensed any other cores than A53 and A72?
<topi`> the 32-bit cores probably won't be used
<Amit_> xming: Thanks, Let me see if it's really available in my part of world.
<ganbold> board picture if it is really the board
<naobsd> ganbold: there are some holes, interesting
<ganbold> yes
<ganbold> :)
<ganbold> board there, but I don't see holes
<Amit_> ganbold: Are uart rx/tx holes there?
<ganbold> I don't know, some holes are there on right side, maybe that is uart, or maybe not
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<aep> is there a wiki for various boards?
<aep> i'd throw the stuff i found there i guess
<mmind00> aep: linux-rockchip.info?
<aep> duh. right in the topic. thanks
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<edolnx> topi`, I'm working on the same goal (running Linux on a RK3368) and I think I'm close. I'll spend some more time on it this week with the extended time off here in the US and post my findings here
<edolnx> topi`, I've also ordered this geekbox with the landing ship for about $150 that looks like a good fit http://www.geekbuying.com/item/GeekBox-Open-Source-Cross-TV-BOX-Android-Ubuntu-Dual-Boot-4K-RK3368-Octa-Core-2G-16G-AC-WIFI-1000M-LAN-BT4-1-HDMI2-0-OTG-358067.html
<karlp> SUV like appearance?!
<karlp> odd device.
<edolnx> Well, I'm taking it out of the case and then it's a bit more...traditional :D
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