<ccaione>
11:22 < mnemoc> almost half room... but spread
<ccaione>
11:23 < netlynx> ~150-220 or so rough estimate
<mnemoc>
o_O
<wens>
Turl: are you queueing the apb1 merge patches for 3.15?
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<buZz>
haha
<ccaione>
demo time
<buZz>
'the chip has its own internal touchscreen'
<buZz>
:D
<buZz>
yes, demo THAT
<buZz>
:D
<buZz>
touch inside the chip!
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<Seppoz>
wtf
<Seppoz>
how do you mean?
<buZz>
mnemoc: just said 'the chip has its own internal touchscreen'
<buZz>
made me laugh hard
<buZz>
:D
<wens>
quite a few people interested
<hramrach>
the 4wire interface is pretty useless these days, anyway
<hramrach>
even cheapest Chinese tablets have capacitive multitouch
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<Seppoz>
yes but if you look around beside tablets and phones probably 80% are still resistive
<Seppoz>
becasue so many ppl dont know how to use cap screens
<Seppoz>
also cap screens are like 20 times more expensive than resistive
<buZz>
11:56:27 < Seppoz> yes but if you look around beside tablets and phones probably 80% are still resistive
<buZz>
eh?
<buZz>
i dont know where you are looking :D
<buZz>
all i see is capacitive
<Seppoz>
check out all the suppliers
<Seppoz>
of screens
<Seppoz>
the mostly have 1000 resistive and 5 cap screens
<buZz>
no
<buZz>
i was looking at tablets and phones
<Seppoz>
yes i sad beside those
<buZz>
ooooo
<Seppoz>
*said
<buZz>
missed that, sorry ;)
<nedko>
somebody succeeded in using capacitive screen with gloves?
<Seppoz>
yes
<Seppoz>
those are called projective cap. screens
<Seppoz>
sometimes they are a mix of resistive and cap. screen
<Seppoz>
mostly its a projected cap. layer that projects a few mm in frnt of the screen
* nove
can't get the time right
<nedko>
to me glove operation is quite important for a phone
<Seppoz>
why? do you live in canada or norway?
<Seppoz>
:P
<nove>
but that many people around at the end was nice to watch
<nedko>
no, i live in bulgaria
<nedko>
we have winter here too :)
<Seppoz>
kik
<Seppoz>
lol
<Seppoz>
nove: whats you think with the people? have you never seen an active room? :P
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<nove>
Seppoz: at the end was nice to see that there were more that want to ask questions
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<wigyori>
hey
<wigyori>
any experience with the ippo m7?
<Seppoz>
its A20, what about it
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<wigyori>
in terms of serial console
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<rm>
mnemoc, so there are no hwpacks for A20?
<Seppoz>
wigyori: i see sorry, usually its UART0 but that might be hard to find
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<Seppoz>
rm: why do you need hwpacks for a20?
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<wigyori>
Seppoz: gotcha, thanks :)
<rm>
I am used to getting to compiled u-boot from them
<rm>
but now I found the same in some other dir on the download server
<plaes>
just noticed that MACC_MPEG_ROTSCALE_CTRL is called VE_MPEG_SDROT_CTRL in code
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<plaes>
VE_MPEG_TRBTRD_FIELD and VE_MPEG_TRBTRD_FRAME are switched
<jemk>
plaes: the wiki contains mostly names wingrime extracted from the blobs, the names in code are often slightly changed according to what I think the register really does
<plaes>
ok
<jemk>
plaes: i tried to update the wiki, but some things i miss, and the latest things i haven't even started yet
<plaes>
ok, but is it possible to confirm these two switched regs?
<jemk>
plaes: the rotscale does definitely more then rotate and scale, so i took the original name from blob
<jemk>
plaes: the trbtrd is correct in code, because it only works this way around, but i don't know why it is different in wiki, maybe a mistake
<plaes>
ok
<jemk>
plaes: one is called frame_dist, no idea where this comes from
<plaes>
I'll do the whole list of regs then
<plaes>
maybe I'll spot anything else
<Turl>
ccaione: \o
<Turl>
wens: after I get them sent, probably :)
<plaes>
#define VE_H264_FRAME_SIZE 0x200
<jemk>
plaes: if you look at the old register table where everything started: http://linux-sunxi.org/index.php?title=CedarX/Reverse_Engineering&oldid=4604 there the trbtrd where right, don't know who/when messed it up
<plaes>
MACC_H264_SEQ_HDR in wiki?
<plaes>
cool
<plaes>
it should be in some better file
* plaes
goes to check how freedreno's xml files work
<jemk>
haha, should have looked at this earlier, there sdrot is called sdrotdDBLK, that could mean it controls deblocking, which would make sense...
<plaes>
:D
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<jemk>
also had this idea, rnndb or how it is called, but it is a whole lot of work
<Turl>
nove: thx for mirroring once again :)
* Turl
watching oliv3r talk
<plaes>
jemk: looks like it needs to be done :)
<peterbjornx2>
anyone here know how to get mali to work ?
<peterbjornx2>
my kernel doesnt provide a config.gz, and i only have mali and ump modules not mali_drm or drm
<leviathanch>
Turl: hi
<leviathanch>
Turl: did you realize that the emac device for A20 isn't functional with recent next branch?
<leviathanch>
at least it's disfunctional for me...
<leviathanch>
it doesn't get any ip address
<leviathanch>
...
<leviathanch>
it detects link status though
<Turl>
leviathanch: you mean linux-next?
<leviathanch>
Turl: yes
<nove>
didn't knew about that, yes, it would be good to have a register database
<Turl>
leviathanch: is it still using emac? all a20 are going to be switching to gmac soon
<leviathanch>
ic
<Turl>
maybe next got the dt but's missing the rest
<leviathanch>
ah
<leviathanch>
ic
<nove>
next 2 weeks, my plan is to improve the valgrind tracer, there is a nasty bug there
<Turl>
leviathanch: if it gets link status tho, it should be fairly functional
<Turl>
maybe an issue on your config userspace wise?
<peterbjornx2>
can anyone here explain to me how to build a kernel for a A13 tablet (i cant seem to find out where to set board type), i know the basics but the whole sysconfig.fex thingy is a bit confusing
<hramrach>
leviathanch: what do you need emac device on a20 for?
<hramrach>
not that it should not work but needs patching the DT I guess
<leviathanch>
hramrach: well, it's not that I need explicitely emac
<leviathanch>
I just need a working ethernet device driver in order to scp updated uImage files into the /boot folder of my rootfs ;-)
<leviathanch>
since I don't like to always remove the SD card
<leviathanch>
:-)
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<Turl>
peterbjornx2: make sun5i_defconfig; make umage
<Turl>
uImage*
<Turl>
there's great guides on the wiki btw
<plaes>
leviathanch: netboot :)
<oliv3r>
nove: @grate? he hasn't looked at the VPU at all; he knows nothing of video stuff
<leviathanch>
ok
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<nove>
oliv3r: the question as to the v4l talk, but anyway he asked to only ask questions of what he spook
<Turl>
oliv3r: question time! :p
<Turl>
oliv3r: btw you typoed ASOP -> AOSP
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<Turl>
oliv3r: you got quite popular at the end of the talk I see
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<oliv3r>
Turl: i did? i just remeber they yelling that i had to over; next speaker comming
<oliv3r>
Turl: if that's all? i was told (and allready fixed) i had about about somewhere :)
<oliv3r>
btw, I vote that the blob-fish become the official 'masquote' for propriatery blobs
<oliv3r>
also; i was very supprised how supprised people where the entire presentation ran on the cubie
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<Turl>
oliv3r: you had a lot of people buzzing around after the talk finished :p
<Turl>
even some dudes talking about buying lots of tablets and running replicant :p
<Turl>
oliv3r: did you get a sunxi lunch? :p
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<oliv3r>
Turl: we talked about it; i went to the loo for some fresh diareah, and then they where all gone
<Turl>
hah
<oliv3r>
Turl: the lots of tablets dudes i don't recall; but it was very busy :p
<oliv3r>
and wasn't it a lot of sunxi guys buzzing
<Turl>
AT&T natural voices are good for sth, see? :p
<Turl>
that's /zʌnksi/
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<oliv3r>
yeah taht's how i sorta said it
<fred5426>
hello - has sombody find with success a good doc to pilot IO , specially analog ones. On the datasheet (and user manual of A20) i only find control registers of the LRADC but for me it"s not enough to understand hox can i read analog input on my cubie2
<Turl>
fred5426: try reading the code if the docs are not enough
<fred5426>
@Turl / thanks for reply - OK but i really don't know where i must begin reading the code ! I download the A20 SDK and i 'im using cubian. Have you an idea of the good stating point in this huge amount of linux kernel code ?
<fred5426>
Turl : thanks a lot. Ok :) See you later
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<plaes>
jemk: I have most of the basic defines in the rnndb now :)
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<ccaione>
for the lradc now we have also the hans' driver in mainline
<ccaione>
oliv3r: how are you? still hugged to the loo?
<oliv3r>
lol yeah :(
<ccaione>
:(
<oliv3r>
laying in bed with the laptop allready
<oliv3r>
you back home yet? or going tomorow
<ccaione>
tomorrow .. still in the hotel
<oliv3r>
which hotel are you in
<ccaione>
chambord
<oliv3r>
i just hope it wasn't something I ate friday
<oliv3r>
sucks so bad; was really looking forward to the whole thing
<ccaione>
yeah ... next year, just salad the day before :)
<oliv3r>
hehehe
<oliv3r>
if we make some really good progress; maybe fsf stuff; we could have an intersting update
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<ccaione>
yep, also libv did a really great spot for sunxi
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<oliv3r>
i hope some of the sunxi guests went to luc to hear stuff from hi :)
<oliv3r>
was the roo full?
<ccaione>
yeah, pretty full
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<oliv3r>
libv: btw, in case you haven't checked, you can download the fosdem sunxi video's from nove's dl thing, gives you something to watch during your train trip
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<oliv3r>
oh wow, i'm listening to the video now; and it's not only bad to hear ones own voice, it's even worse hearing the tremble and fear in it :(
<oliv3r>
ok i can't watch this; I was way to nervous, it's way to emberassing :)
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<Turl>
oliv3r: nah you were fine
<Turl>
oliv3r: the audio was crap tho
<oliv3r>
at the start; i'm trembling horribly :p
<oliv3r>
ibm thinkpad amplifier
<Turl>
I had to put pulseaudio over 100% and my monitor at 100% to be able to hear sth
<oliv3r>
it'sfine :p
<Turl>
usually 20% on monitor is plenty loud to annoy neighbors
<oliv3r>
:p
<Turl>
besides it was mono
<oliv3r>
i noticed that the volume was changed at a certain point
<Turl>
yeah
<oliv3r>
was very annoying as I didn't know what was going on
<Turl>
'someone is playing with the mic gain' or sth you said
<Turl>
:p
<oliv3r>
so i just thought someone made a mistake
<mnemoc>
re
<Turl>
wb mnemoc
<Turl>
home yet? :)
<mnemoc>
thx. not yet. just took the train so around 40.
<mnemoc>
oliv3r: didn't seeyou on libv talks.. still ill?
<oliv3r>
i have pooped twice, gagged once and thrown up once since
<oliv3r>
mnemoc: check your e-mail!
<oliv3r>
unless you are allready referring to that
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<plaes>
ok, CedarX RE guys - pushed my envytools branch containing basic register lists
<oliv3r>
rz2k: who called it sun2i? did i typo the slide?
<rz2k>
yeah you had it "F-series: sun2i(?) sun3i". no harm, just so you know, you can also checkout various SDKs from 2009 era of ebooks and etc. also the "ePDK" boot0/1 and w-boot system goes from that times
<oliv3r>
oh crap :p
<oliv3r>
on my first slide i called it sunii
<mnemoc>
url shortener maybe?
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<hramrach>
rz2k: I have a sun3i e-book reader
<hramrach>
but it's not particularly broken and there does not seem much interest in sun3i. even kicked out of sunxi tree
<hramrach>
there is a guy dissecting one with same chip but LCD screen
<hno>
hramrach, there simply were no contributors stepping up to maintain the sun3i parts we had.
<hramrach>
ok, not booting - the kernel does not start. the fs is not touched. and it runs at least spl because it does not boot android which it would if the spl was invalid
<hramrach>
when booting from fel I get screen output in a few secs but nothing with SD card
<Seppoz>
maybe it has a problem loading the kernel? or maybe the ram settingsa re incorrect
<hramrach>
the ram settings are correct enough for fel
<Seppoz>
did you change them in uboot?
<hramrach>
and it can have problem loading the kernel but I have no idea what kind of problem, right?
<Seppoz>
well
<hramrach>
yes, I did
<Seppoz>
do you have any other A13 board that have uart?
<hramrach>
no
<Seppoz>
hard to tell them
<Seppoz>
*then
<hramrach>
this one should technically have uart on the camera connector
<hramrach>
but that's about it. There is also uart3 but i have no idea where that connects if anywhere
<hramrach>
yes, it is hard to tell, totally
<Seppoz>
yep
<Seppoz>
if i was you id try to get access to uart0
<rz2k>
the "sunxi kms" video should miss first 6 minutes since there is only silence there and libv setting up his presentation :p
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