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<Turl> back
<Turl> ok
<Turl> leviathanch: what SoC are you testing on btw?
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<leviathanch> Turl: A20
<leviathanch> Turl: it's a cubieboard2
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<Turl> leviathanch: what's your tree url to pull? I can't find it on the gitweb
<Turl> thx
<leviathanch> branch 20140131
<leviathanch> :-)
<Turl> leviathanch: anything I should enable on menuconfig?
<leviathanch> Turl:
<leviathanch> yes
<leviathanch> SD/MMC
<leviathanch> driver for allwinner
<leviathanch> and ext4
<leviathanch> :-)
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<Turl> leviathanch: your tree doesn't even boot :(
<Turl> leviathanch: dw-apb-uart 1c28000.serial: clk or clock-frequency not defined
<Turl> dw-apb-uart: probe of 1c28000.serial failed with error -22
<Turl> wtf :)
<leviathanch> wtf?
<leviathanch> hmm
<leviathanch> strange
<leviathanch> really
<leviathanch> wtf
<Turl> you picked the apb unification without the dt part
<leviathanch> ouch
<leviathanch> strange
<leviathanch> it boots on my board
<leviathanch> ...
<leviathanch> only printk kill it
<leviathanch> I'll make a clean...
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<Turl> pll6 2 2 1200000000 0
<Turl> pll6_other 1 1 600000000 0
<Turl> mmc0 1 1 50000000 0
<Turl> only "mci" msg is sunxi-mci 1c0f000.mmc: base:0xf00a0000 irq:64
<Turl> and it seems to detect the card
<Turl> mmc0: new high speed SDHC card at address 1234
<Turl> mmcblk0: mmc0:1234 SA04G 3.63 GiB mmcblk0:
<leviathanch> ?!
<leviathanch> so it works on your platform?
<Turl> (the part table is broken, so it's normal it's not listing partitions)
<leviathanch> ok
<Turl> leviathanch: yeah, just drop the tip of your tree
<Turl> "clk: sunxi: unify APB1 clock" <- this one
<Turl> (or if you want to keep it, grab the dt counterparts)
<leviathanch> ok
<leviathanch> rewinding 20140113
<leviathanch> pull with force
<Turl> 31 right?
<leviathanch> uhh
<leviathanch> yes
<leviathanch> sorry
<leviathanch> typo
<leviathanch> ^_^
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<Turl> leviathanch: works for me
<Turl> try on your board now :)
<leviathanch> ok
<Turl> (I'm using a CT btw)
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<leviathanch> Turl: hehe
<leviathanch> you were right
<leviathanch> without the tip it is working
<leviathanch> ^_^
<leviathanch> thx!
<Turl> :)
<Turl> yw
<Turl> seems to read just fine http://sprunge.us/TXHR
<leviathanch> next step: making the modifications mentioned in the mailing list
<leviathanch> :-D
<Turl> haha
<Turl> :)
<Turl> hope to see a new round of patches soon :p
<leviathanch> yeah
<leviathanch> you will
<leviathanch> now that I figured out the depencies
<leviathanch> I have boundled them all together in stg
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<Turl> in what? :p
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<tomboy65> i am using the stock gentoo toolchain, but i regularly get errors like this
<tomboy65> drivers/built-in.o: In function `axp20_init_chip':
<tomboy65> /mnt/miniStor/linux-sunxi/drivers/power/axp_power/axp20-mfd.h:149: undefined reference to `hwmon_device_register'
<tomboy65> i don't get those with the linaro toolchain
<Turl> tomboy65: sounds like bad config
<tomboy65> how can i relax the conditions in my toolchain for that?
<tomboy65> Turl: others are successful building the kernel with this config. i'm quite confident it's got something to do with my toolchain
<tomboy65> and the way it interpretes header scope
<tomboy65> (for a lack of a better term ...)
<Turl> tomboy65: what branch is this btw? I don't see any such ref on line 149
<Turl> It's probably just missing a header, something like #include <linux/hwmon.h>
<tomboy65> hmm
<Turl> tomboy65: are you up to date?
<Turl> there seems to be a fix for that commited recently there
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<tomboy65> hm
<tomboy65> where do you see that?
<tomboy65> i cloned tonight
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<tomboy65> hm
<tomboy65> okay, compiling again. added an include for hwmon.h in axp20-mfd.c
<tomboy65> err
<tomboy65> axp-mfd.c
<tomboy65> let's see if that helps
<tomboy65> good night for now
<Seppoz> bb
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<arete74> oliv3r : +1
<arete74> i wait you talk!!
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<mnemoc> moin
<arete74> moin
<mnemoc> hi arete74
<arete74> was is the fosdem?
<mnemoc> please rephrase
<arete74> mnemoc: was is the experince at fosdem?
<mnemoc> ah, you mean how
<mnemoc> awesome =)
<mnemoc> will absolutely come next year
<mnemoc> there is so much awesomeness that you wish you would be able to split yourself
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<ccaione> moin
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<wigyori> yoo
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<oliv3r> f-droid talk! then sunxi :)
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<mnemoc> finally! the time has come
* wens cheers
<ccaione> huuuuu
<ccaione> oliv3r: on stage
<wens> waiting for the stream
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<arete74> waiting.....
<ccaione> Turl: wake up!
<arete74> -1 min
<wens> nove?
<guest817> go go. go
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<mnemoc> there he is
<wens> wow... what's wrong with the stream :(
<ccaione> wens: complain in #fosdem
<arete74> streaming fosdem stream is ok, i see
<wens> switched to a different one
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<buZz> link to stream?
<mnemoc> oh
<nove> record now
<nove> no sound?
<arete74> sound is ok
<nove> is very low
<arete74> yes i low
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<buZz> my god thats some soft audio
<netlynx> sound is low in the room itself too.
<ccaione> 130 irc users .... uhhmm
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<mnemoc> /names tells 136 ;)
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<arete74> How many people in the room?
<ccaione> yeah, lurkers count in
<mnemoc> 136 - chanserv
<paulk-collins> I'd say half-full
<paulk-collins> or more than that
<paulk-collins> like 3/4
<ccaione> uhm who is working on barebox porting?
<arete74> How many people in the room?
<arete74> at fosdem
<mnemoc> almost half room... but spread
<netlynx> ~150-220 or so rough estimate
<paulk-collins> sound just got better :)
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<paulk-collins> damn that kinda works well
<wens> typo :p
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<arete74> How many people in the room?
<arete74> How many people in the room?
<arete74> How many people in the room?
<arete74> How many people in the room?
<arete74> How many people in the room?
<arete74> bad paste
<ccaione> 11:22 < mnemoc> almost half room... but spread
<ccaione> 11:23 < netlynx> ~150-220 or so rough estimate
<mnemoc> o_O
<wens> Turl: are you queueing the apb1 merge patches for 3.15?
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<buZz> haha
<ccaione> demo time
<buZz> 'the chip has its own internal touchscreen'
<buZz> :D
<buZz> yes, demo THAT
<buZz> :D
<buZz> touch inside the chip!
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<Seppoz> wtf
<Seppoz> how do you mean?
<buZz> mnemoc: just said 'the chip has its own internal touchscreen'
<buZz> made me laugh hard
<buZz> :D
<wens> quite a few people interested
<hramrach> the 4wire interface is pretty useless these days, anyway
<hramrach> even cheapest Chinese tablets have capacitive multitouch
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<Seppoz> yes but if you look around beside tablets and phones probably 80% are still resistive
<Seppoz> becasue so many ppl dont know how to use cap screens
<Seppoz> also cap screens are like 20 times more expensive than resistive
<buZz> 11:56:27 < Seppoz> yes but if you look around beside tablets and phones probably 80% are still resistive
<buZz> eh?
<buZz> i dont know where you are looking :D
<buZz> all i see is capacitive
<Seppoz> check out all the suppliers
<Seppoz> of screens
<Seppoz> the mostly have 1000 resistive and 5 cap screens
<buZz> no
<buZz> i was looking at tablets and phones
<Seppoz> yes i sad beside those
<buZz> ooooo
<Seppoz> *said
<buZz> missed that, sorry ;)
<nedko> somebody succeeded in using capacitive screen with gloves?
<Seppoz> yes
<Seppoz> those are called projective cap. screens
<Seppoz> sometimes they are a mix of resistive and cap. screen
<Seppoz> mostly its a projected cap. layer that projects a few mm in frnt of the screen
* nove can't get the time right
<nedko> to me glove operation is quite important for a phone
<Seppoz> why? do you live in canada or norway?
<Seppoz> :P
<nove> but that many people around at the end was nice to watch
<nedko> no, i live in bulgaria
<nedko> we have winter here too :)
<Seppoz> kik
<Seppoz> lol
<Seppoz> nove: whats you think with the people? have you never seen an active room? :P
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<nove> Seppoz: at the end was nice to see that there were more that want to ask questions
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<wigyori> hey
<wigyori> any experience with the ippo m7?
<Seppoz> its A20, what about it
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<wigyori> in terms of serial console
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<rm> mnemoc, so there are no hwpacks for A20?
<Seppoz> wigyori: i see sorry, usually its UART0 but that might be hard to find
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<Seppoz> rm: why do you need hwpacks for a20?
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<wigyori> Seppoz: gotcha, thanks :)
<rm> I am used to getting to compiled u-boot from them
<rm> but now I found the same in some other dir on the download server
<rm> a compiled *
<Seppoz> can you just use the sunxi repo?
<oliv3r> php
<Seppoz> oliver whats that
<oliv3r> slides of my talk
<Seppoz> lemme read
<Seppoz> you should mention that fex suck
<Seppoz> and that it messes up all generic drivers
<oliv3r> :p
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<oliv3r> <- grate talk
<Seppoz> if i was them i would have just added an abstraction layer for fex
<Seppoz> that generaes thge mach dynamically
<Seppoz> and dont hook into the drivers
* nove is also watching grate
<HdkR> Stop being where I am!
<HdkR> :P
<Seppoz> xD
<Seppoz> maybe hes secretly in love with you
* HdkR gets figgidity
<nove> too bad cedarx is not a programmable engine, it looks so fun to play with instructions
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<Seppoz> its closed source afiak
<Seppoz> also closed spec
<Seppoz> think it was due to licensing issues if i remeber right
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<nove> Very long instruction word (VLIW) that is the name
<Seppoz> oliv3r: A80 looks fun, didnt even know it exists yet
<HdkR> It's PVR though! D:
<Seppoz> :(
<plaes> PVR?
<HdkR> It's running some PowerVR garbage
<buZz> personal video recorder
<buZz> oh
<plaes> ahhh
<HdkR> Probably a PVR6320 or something
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<Seppoz> so i guess its all closed source
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<plaes> powervr is crazy architecture
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<nove> jemk, lttng looks good for debugging
<nove> as time allows i will look into it
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<nove> oliv3r: take the change to ask about vpu
<nove> chance*
<wens> ooh, v4l2 skeleton driver
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<mnemoc> lima time!
<plaes> \o/
<plaes> anyone recording?>
<mnemoc> nove: how does it behave?
<mnemoc> the dl. server I mean
<nove> mnemoc: behave? is good, only wget -O file
* plaes uses mpv
<mnemoc> streams fine?
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<nove> mnemoc: from dl.sunxi? i think is better to download first, didn't tried to watch from there
<plaes> currently yes
<plaes> no sound?
<ccaione> mnemoc oliv3r mripard and all the others ... are u still around tonight?
<mnemoc> i'm flying back to berlin arouns 20h30
<mnemoc> around
<ccaione> hoo ok
<plaes> someone, could you increase audio volume? :)
<mnemoc> seems libv heared you
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<ccaione> mnemoc: where are you
<mnemoc> 3 rows behind you
<ccaione> lol
<plaes> stream audio is still too quite :(
<plaes> s/quite/quiet
<plaes> yay.. external amplifier :P
<arky> Is there pre-build tizenhttps://github.com/leon-anavi/tizen-sunxi image for mk802
<arky> Is there pre-build tizen image for mk802 somewhere?
<ccaione> RzR: ^^^
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<nove> unique
<ccaione> hahah mnemoc
<mnemoc> :p
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<ccaione> libv: nice talk :)
<plaes> (y)
<wens> (y)
<eagles0513875> hey all
<eagles0513875> oliv3r: ping
<nove> ah
<nove> designed for multimedia?
<mnemoc> uh
<nove> is allwinner has to choose to use that or cedar, and i think they will not drop cedar
<nove> this means could mean that for allwinner mali is not any more attractive
<nove> could be why they are coming with pvr
<mnemoc> a43 is going to use mali too afaik
<nove> lets hope
<mnemoc> they already invested a lot of money in pvr ip.... it's not like they are going to trash it soon
<mnemoc> expensive mistake
<ccaione> :)
<nove> but for sure allwinner doesn't want to pay for a vpu ip, when they already have one
<mnemoc> we can perfectly ignore the pvr gpu and support a31 and a80 with display and cedarx...
<mnemoc> eventually someone will fill the gap
<mnemoc> when a80 devboards start to come out
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<eagles0513875> hhas the gpio stuff made it into mainstream as it seems like it is already in 3.13 mainline kernel
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<mnemoc> ccaione: why did they put this gap between the talks? :(
<wens> 10 min break?
<wens> rebasing the remaining gmac patches... can't remember what I changed in v3
<plaes> diff? :)
<wens> oh good, looks like not much
<plaes> :)
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<wens> learning Chinese is proper hard IMO
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<plaes> nice slide :D
<wens> yeah, the disp block in the user manual is hard to understand
<plaes> now.. can't wait for code.. :P
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<wens> cubieboard 1/2 have LCD1 HSYNC/VSYNC on the extension pins
<wens> not on the cubietruck though
<plaes> \o/
<plaes> for olimex :)
<plaes> cool
<plaes> nice work, libv!
<wens> libv: cubieboard has RGB pins and LCD1 HSYNC/VSYNC on the same extension pin set, next to each other, and GND
<wens> they're even bracketed together as VGA
<wens> also TWI1 is there
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<plaes> wow.. smartcard reader o_O
<wens> what? where?
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<plaes> in A20
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<wens> pins are shared with LCD0
<plaes> hah
<wens> probably useful for STBs
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<nove> fosdem is aiming to get videos available by thursday
<plaes> cool
* atsampso1 predicts that he's not going to have a very productive day on Thursday or Friday then ;)
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<plaes> which is more up-to-date: http://linux-sunxi.org/VE_Register_guide or sunxi-vdpau repo?
<plaes> just noticed that MACC_MPEG_ROTSCALE_CTRL is called VE_MPEG_SDROT_CTRL in code
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<jemk> plaes: the wiki contains mostly names wingrime extracted from the blobs, the names in code are often slightly changed according to what I think the register really does
<plaes> ok
<jemk> plaes: i tried to update the wiki, but some things i miss, and the latest things i haven't even started yet
<plaes> ok, but is it possible to confirm these two switched regs?
<jemk> plaes: the rotscale does definitely more then rotate and scale, so i took the original name from blob
<jemk> plaes: the trbtrd is correct in code, because it only works this way around, but i don't know why it is different in wiki, maybe a mistake
<plaes> ok
<jemk> plaes: one is called frame_dist, no idea where this comes from
<plaes> I'll do the whole list of regs then
<plaes> maybe I'll spot anything else
<Turl> ccaione: \o
<Turl> wens: after I get them sent, probably :)
<plaes> #define VE_H264_FRAME_SIZE 0x200
<jemk> plaes: if you look at the old register table where everything started: http://linux-sunxi.org/index.php?title=CedarX/Reverse_Engineering&oldid=4604 there the trbtrd where right, don't know who/when messed it up
<plaes> MACC_H264_SEQ_HDR in wiki?
<plaes> cool
<plaes> it should be in some better file
* plaes goes to check how freedreno's xml files work
<jemk> haha, should have looked at this earlier, there sdrot is called sdrotdDBLK, that could mean it controls deblocking, which would make sense...
<plaes> :D
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<jemk> also had this idea, rnndb or how it is called, but it is a whole lot of work
<Turl> nove: thx for mirroring once again :)
* Turl watching oliv3r talk
<plaes> jemk: looks like it needs to be done :)
<peterbjornx2> anyone here know how to get mali to work ?
<peterbjornx2> my kernel doesnt provide a config.gz, and i only have mali and ump modules not mali_drm or drm
<leviathanch> Turl: hi
<leviathanch> Turl: did you realize that the emac device for A20 isn't functional with recent next branch?
<leviathanch> at least it's disfunctional for me...
<leviathanch> it doesn't get any ip address
<leviathanch> ...
<leviathanch> it detects link status though
<Turl> leviathanch: you mean linux-next?
<leviathanch> Turl: yes
<nove> didn't knew about that, yes, it would be good to have a register database
<Turl> leviathanch: is it still using emac? all a20 are going to be switching to gmac soon
<leviathanch> ic
<Turl> maybe next got the dt but's missing the rest
<leviathanch> ah
<leviathanch> ic
<nove> next 2 weeks, my plan is to improve the valgrind tracer, there is a nasty bug there
<Turl> leviathanch: if it gets link status tho, it should be fairly functional
<Turl> maybe an issue on your config userspace wise?
<peterbjornx2> can anyone here explain to me how to build a kernel for a A13 tablet (i cant seem to find out where to set board type), i know the basics but the whole sysconfig.fex thingy is a bit confusing
<hramrach> leviathanch: what do you need emac device on a20 for?
<hramrach> not that it should not work but needs patching the DT I guess
<leviathanch> hramrach: well, it's not that I need explicitely emac
<leviathanch> I just need a working ethernet device driver in order to scp updated uImage files into the /boot folder of my rootfs ;-)
<leviathanch> since I don't like to always remove the SD card
<leviathanch> :-)
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<Turl> peterbjornx2: make sun5i_defconfig; make umage
<Turl> uImage*
<Turl> there's great guides on the wiki btw
<plaes> leviathanch: netboot :)
<oliv3r> nove: @grate? he hasn't looked at the VPU at all; he knows nothing of video stuff
<leviathanch> ok
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<nove> oliv3r: the question as to the v4l talk, but anyway he asked to only ask questions of what he spook
<Turl> oliv3r: question time! :p
<Turl> oliv3r: btw you typoed ASOP -> AOSP
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<Turl> oliv3r: you got quite popular at the end of the talk I see
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<oliv3r> Turl: i did? i just remeber they yelling that i had to over; next speaker comming
<oliv3r> Turl: if that's all? i was told (and allready fixed) i had about about somewhere :)
<oliv3r> btw, I vote that the blob-fish become the official 'masquote' for propriatery blobs
<oliv3r> also; i was very supprised how supprised people where the entire presentation ran on the cubie
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<Turl> oliv3r: you had a lot of people buzzing around after the talk finished :p
<Turl> even some dudes talking about buying lots of tablets and running replicant :p
<Turl> oliv3r: did you get a sunxi lunch? :p
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<oliv3r> Turl: we talked about it; i went to the loo for some fresh diareah, and then they where all gone
<Turl> hah
<oliv3r> Turl: the lots of tablets dudes i don't recall; but it was very busy :p
<oliv3r> and wasn't it a lot of sunxi guys buzzing
<oliv3r> i should watch m yown talk
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<oliv3r> Turl: i hope i wasn't overselling OlimeX's stuff
<oliv3r> :p
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<Turl> oliv3r: nah you weren't
<Turl> oliv3r: but nice ads on the SoC with touchscreen on it :D
<oliv3r> huh? you mean the 'tablets' (q88)? yeha i just downloaded that
<oliv3r> was to tired to gipm the pic
<Turl> oliv3r: nah :p
<Turl> oliv3r: on some part you said the soc had a touchscreen builtin
<Turl> or sth of sorts
<oliv3r> oh right
<oliv3r> at the end you mean, under blobs, not the touchscreen?
<Turl> :p
<Turl> probably around there
<oliv3r> should have been touch screen CONTROLLER :p
<oliv3r> but i'm pretty sure people got it
<Turl> yeah :p
<Turl> haha yeah
<Turl> but it was funny still to picture it
<Turl> :)
<oliv3r> btw, the SoC image; was actually about a programmable SoC, PSoC; i'm sure nobody noticed :)
<oliv3r> so how do you pronounce sunksi
<Turl> what image? :p I didn't
<Turl> oliv3r: I don't recall seeing that on your talk
<oliv3r> but the whole idea/concept is clear
<oliv3r> very early, slide 5?
<oliv3r> after the sushi
<Turl> sushi? o.O
<Turl> I'll have to rewatch it :p
<hramrach> sunk-si ?
<Turl> yeah
<Turl> both with english and spanish voice
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<oliv3r> sun-shi, sounds like sushi
<oliv3r> I thought the sun-ksi was a clever find, chinese-greek :p
* atsampso1 still wonders how they came up with that, given that sunxu and sunxm were well-established as SPARC architecture names...
<jelly-home> and sunXc, if I remember correctly
<Turl> oliv3r: ask mnemoc to say "suncsi" in spanish, that's probably how I say it
<oliv3r> Turl: mnemoc is on a plaine right now :p
<oliv3r> Sun-Shi :)
<oliv3r> Sun-She
<Turl> rhymes with zoom-xi
<oliv3r> zoo-she
<Turl> shorter u sound
<oliv3r> zoom-she
<Turl> not she but xi
<oliv3r> but the xi bit is the discussable bit
<Turl> /zuksi/
<Turl> /zʌksi/ if you're english? :p
<oliv3r> lol; i give up :)
<oliv3r> lol
<Turl> AT&T natural voices are good for sth, see? :p
<Turl> that's /zʌnksi/
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<oliv3r> yeah taht's how i sorta said it
<fred5426> hello - has sombody find with success a good doc to pilot IO , specially analog ones. On the datasheet (and user manual of A20) i only find control registers of the LRADC but for me it"s not enough to understand hox can i read analog input on my cubie2
<Turl> fred5426: try reading the code if the docs are not enough
<fred5426> @Turl / thanks for reply - OK but i really don't know where i must begin reading the code ! I download the A20 SDK and i 'im using cubian. Have you an idea of the good stating point in this huge amount of linux kernel code ?
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<Turl> fred5426: the lradc driver may be a good place to start - https://github.com/linux-sunxi/linux-sunxi/blob/sunxi-3.4/drivers/input/keyboard/sun4i-keyboard.c
<fred5426> Turl : thanks a lot. Ok :) See you later
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<plaes> jemk: I have most of the basic defines in the rnndb now :)
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<ccaione> for the lradc now we have also the hans' driver in mainline
<ccaione> oliv3r: how are you? still hugged to the loo?
<oliv3r> lol yeah :(
<ccaione> :(
<oliv3r> laying in bed with the laptop allready
<oliv3r> you back home yet? or going tomorow
<ccaione> tomorrow .. still in the hotel
<oliv3r> which hotel are you in
<ccaione> chambord
<oliv3r> i just hope it wasn't something I ate friday
<oliv3r> sucks so bad; was really looking forward to the whole thing
<ccaione> yeah ... next year, just salad the day before :)
<oliv3r> hehehe
<oliv3r> if we make some really good progress; maybe fsf stuff; we could have an intersting update
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<ccaione> yep, also libv did a really great spot for sunxi
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<oliv3r> i hope some of the sunxi guests went to luc to hear stuff from hi :)
<oliv3r> was the roo full?
<ccaione> yeah, pretty full
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<oliv3r> libv: btw, in case you haven't checked, you can download the fosdem sunxi video's from nove's dl thing, gives you something to watch during your train trip
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<oliv3r> oh wow, i'm listening to the video now; and it's not only bad to hear ones own voice, it's even worse hearing the tremble and fear in it :(
<oliv3r> ok i can't watch this; I was way to nervous, it's way to emberassing :)
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<Turl> oliv3r: nah you were fine
<Turl> oliv3r: the audio was crap tho
<oliv3r> at the start; i'm trembling horribly :p
<oliv3r> ibm thinkpad amplifier
<Turl> I had to put pulseaudio over 100% and my monitor at 100% to be able to hear sth
<oliv3r> it'sfine :p
<Turl> usually 20% on monitor is plenty loud to annoy neighbors
<oliv3r> :p
<Turl> besides it was mono
<oliv3r> i noticed that the volume was changed at a certain point
<Turl> yeah
<oliv3r> was very annoying as I didn't know what was going on
<Turl> 'someone is playing with the mic gain' or sth you said
<Turl> :p
<oliv3r> so i just thought someone made a mistake
<mnemoc> re
<Turl> wb mnemoc
<Turl> home yet? :)
<mnemoc> thx. not yet. just took the train so around 40.
<mnemoc> oliv3r: didn't seeyou on libv talks.. still ill?
<oliv3r> i have pooped twice, gagged once and thrown up once since
<oliv3r> mnemoc: check your e-mail!
<oliv3r> unless you are allready referring to that
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<plaes> ok, CedarX RE guys - pushed my envytools branch containing basic register lists
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<oliv3r> tsvetsan was nervous too :P
<Turl> oliv3r: :p
<Turl> oliv3r: there were 5-10k people there
<Turl> who wouldn't be? :p
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<oliv3r> :)
<rz2k> plaes: nice
<mnemoc> Turl: how outdated is the android stuff in the wiki? any recommended pointer?
<rz2k> Turl: oliv3r: is there a youtube link to the sunxi/lima talks at fosdem? I enjoyed the previous year one from libv.
<mnemoc> nove uploaded them to dl.
<oliv3r> until video.fosdem.org starts hosting them
<mnemoc> sure :)
<rz2k> I guess these materials are worth of mentioning in the topic
<rz2k> (of this channel)
<rz2k> :p
<oliv3r> i uploaded y final slides to my owncloud; will upload them to pentabaf/fosdem tomorrow
<oliv3r> should we host the somewhere on sunxi too?
<rz2k> there were no sun2i, it was sunii
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rz2k changed the topic of #linux-sunxi to: Allwinner/sunxi development discussion - Don't ask to ask. Just ask and wait! - See http://linux-sunxi.org | https://github.com/linux-sunxi/ | Logs at http://irclog.whitequark.org/linux-sunxi | FOSDEM talks - http://dl.linux-sunxi.org/users/nove/sunxi_at_fosdem2014/
<oliv3r> rz2k: who called it sun2i? did i typo the slide?
<rz2k> yeah you had it "F-series: sun2i(?) sun3i". no harm, just so you know, you can also checkout various SDKs from 2009 era of ebooks and etc. also the "ePDK" boot0/1 and w-boot system goes from that times
<oliv3r> oh crap :p
<oliv3r> on my first slide i called it sunii
<mnemoc> url shortener maybe?
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<hramrach> rz2k: I have a sun3i e-book reader
<hramrach> but it's not particularly broken and there does not seem much interest in sun3i. even kicked out of sunxi tree
<hramrach> there is a guy dissecting one with same chip but LCD screen
<hno> hramrach, there simply were no contributors stepping up to maintain the sun3i parts we had.
<oliv3r> all about community size
<oliv3r> 'community of 1 or 2 won't help much :(
<hno> it helps much more than 0.
<hramrach> well, can be reached through Debian I guess
<hramrach> but no contact on that web
<Turl> oliv3r: fix the ASOP->AOSP typo too
<hramrach> hmm according to that the TX pin of the e200 uart would be the one going into the R16 writing on this picture near the TP13 http://linux-sunxi.org/images/c/c1/PER3464.JPG
<hramrach> can't even get the damn a13 tablet booting from SD card
<Seppoz> why?
<hramrach> I don't know. it just does not boot
<Seppoz> did you verify they use mmc0 or 3
<Turl> hramrach: maybe your sd slot is not mmc0
<Seppoz> becase thats the only one that it can boot from
<Seppoz> :)
<hramrach> it is
<hramrach> it shows mmc0 in android console
<Turl> and uboot is completely silent?
<Seppoz> sounds like a ram issue
<hramrach> It can scream all it wants. there is no console
<Turl> Seppoz: spl should print stuff though
<Turl> hramrach: ah
<Turl> get one :)
<hramrach> except it boots fine over FEL
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<Seppoz> spl is in dram right
<Turl> nah, spl is in sram
<Turl> and inits dram
<Seppoz> sram sorry
<Seppoz> allways mix them up :(
<Seppoz> maybe hes not using the right uart pins?
<hramrach> any FFC breakout board I could use to replace the camera with a console?
<hramrach> I have no uart pins :/
<Seppoz> none at all?
<Seppoz> uart0 you need
<Seppoz> you just dont know where they are right?
<hramrach> according to fex all uart0 pins are wired to csi0
<Seppoz> lowlevel uboot should still use them for uart
<hramrach> and what?
<hramrach> I have no way to access them
<Seppoz> oh ok
<Seppoz> what device?
<hramrach> an a13 tablet
<Seppoz> how do you know its not booting from sd then?
<hramrach> because it's no booting android
<Seppoz> that can be anything
<hramrach> ok, not booting - the kernel does not start. the fs is not touched. and it runs at least spl because it does not boot android which it would if the spl was invalid
<hramrach> when booting from fel I get screen output in a few secs but nothing with SD card
<Seppoz> maybe it has a problem loading the kernel? or maybe the ram settingsa re incorrect
<hramrach> the ram settings are correct enough for fel
<Seppoz> did you change them in uboot?
<hramrach> and it can have problem loading the kernel but I have no idea what kind of problem, right?
<Seppoz> well
<hramrach> yes, I did
<Seppoz> do you have any other A13 board that have uart?
<hramrach> no
<Seppoz> hard to tell them
<Seppoz> *then
<hramrach> this one should technically have uart on the camera connector
<hramrach> but that's about it. There is also uart3 but i have no idea where that connects if anywhere
<hramrach> yes, it is hard to tell, totally
<Seppoz> yep
<Seppoz> if i was you id try to get access to uart0
<rz2k> the "sunxi kms" video should miss first 6 minutes since there is only silence there and libv setting up his presentation :p
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<Turl> mripard: ping
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