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<wingrime> Libv: ping
<libv> yes?
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<wingrime> libv: do you have any idea what can be done with a80 gpu?
<libv> it's rogue, isn't it?
<libv> supposedly things like opencl and dx11?
<Turl> mripard_: ping
<Turl> libv: AW has gone rogue! </pun>
<libv> but good luck finding a community around it, or binary drivers
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<libv> rogue is the codename for powervr 6
<Turl> libv: btw, DAPM reminds me of your suggestion of strings instead of phandles
<libv> Turl: things will get more fun when i go bring kms to mainline
<libv> the amount of clocks and gating bits...
<libv> Turl: but isn't audio all in kernel space?
<Turl> libv: it is
<libv> Turl: if so, you should be able to reference things by name
<libv> ah, you're writing the dtses
<Turl> no
<Turl> I'm writing DAPM routes
<libv> so this is data drivern or dt based as well?
<libv> or are people referencing registers and their bits directly in some data model?
<Turl> libv: this is all C
<Turl> basically listing the edges of a directed graph
<Turl> where each edge is a complex string like "Left DAC"
<Turl> each vertex*
<libv> ok
<libv> yeah, that's way more complex than "just some clocks" in dt
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<libv> it took several passes to get alsa right back in the day
<libv> what was that device that triggered the last major rewrite... hammerfall or something
<libv> massive amount of in/out channels at 96kHz and 24bits iirc
<libv> blowing even the original sb live out of the water
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<Turl> libv: they didn't seem to get the debuggability right this time
<libv> and everyone was complaining their heads off at how terrible this modular thinking is, and that oss is soo much better
<libv> "look at it, we have 5 modules now!"
<libv> Turl: ok? what could be improved?
<libv> ah yes, rme it was indeed
<Turl> libv: some way of debugging the routes. Now it just bails silently and doesn't do anything if it can't make a route
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<libv> that's broken :(
<Turl> I got a handy script that scraps some stuff from debugfs and then you can feed that to graphviz and get some sort of graphical view
<Turl> and the routes look sane there
<Turl> but there's something itching DAPM and I still don't see what is it
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<wens> Turl: hmm, i thought you could list the routing stuff in DT
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<wens> i still don't understand all the alsa terms, like DPCM, DAPM, codecs, whatever...
<Turl> wens: it still confuses me :)
<Turl> DAPM is a bit like the clock tree, when you use it, the route is enabled, and viceversa
<wens> i know dai is the link between pcm and codec
<wens> but i'm confused how many pcm devices we need to register
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<Turl> I get mixed up on the dais
<Turl> because there's a cpu one and a codec one
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<wens> maybe we should ask some of the ASoC guys for some help
<wingrime> libv: hm, how you will decomposite your kms to small patchsets ....
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<wens> no default env in mainline u-boot?
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<Gerwin_J> Hello
<Gerwin_J> maybe next week source code open for A80
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<wens> ohhh
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<oliv3r_> hey all
<oliv3r_> eva asked me to 'promote' some new device on our wiki
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<gzamboni> hey oliv3r_ very nice, what device shes talking about ?
<gzamboni> oliv3r_, did she give some documentation about it ?
<oliv3r_> an a31s board, the sinlinx
<gzamboni> isnt that company that someone from the ML work for ?
<bfree> and what missing sources or docs (or other useful bounty) is she offering in return ;)
<gzamboni> yeah, thats him: Sinlinx CEO Alexlee on the topic interview questions to allwinner
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<gzamboni> its nice to keep in touch with eva and allwinner's members, this comunication channel is very important to the comunity and i hope allwinner will see that it will be interesting for them also
<oliv3r_> gzamboni: no clue, i just got some pics and a doc
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<oliv3r_> so i'll checkout the sinlinx page and make sure it'll be in order
<gzamboni> you can also exchange mails with sinlinx@gmail.com (Alexlee), or just mail him and ask him to join the irc chan
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<wens> oliv3r_: i ordered one :p
<gzamboni> wens, where from ?
<wens> gzamboni: sinlinx official retailer on taobao
<wens> as i said yesterday, it's quite cheap
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<gzamboni> how much is ¥299.00 in EUR or USD ?
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<wens> 50 USD
<wens> 299 RMB + shipping
<gzamboni> wow, nice, did you see the file list pictures in pdf on the link you sent ?
<gzamboni> if they could supply us with those files
<wens> i did, it's mostly supported hardware and directions for using various parts of the SDK
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<libv> oliv3r_: promote?
<gzamboni> ok
<wens> unsuprisingly, all of that would be in Chinese
<libv> oliv3r_: when do we get the gpl issues resolved?
<libv> if she wants hardware "promoted", she better first start "cooperating"
<wens> gzamboni: so the docs would be kind of useless for most of the people here :/
<gzamboni> wens is it possible to buy from that link and get delivered in europe / France ?
<wens> gzamboni: doubtful
<gzamboni> found in aliexpress
<gzamboni> no longer available
<libv> a33 tablets seem to be popping up in aliexpress
<libv> 10" seem to have the same case as the inet k100
<libv> gzamboni: "all open source"
<libv> "Boot: support SD card, TF card, EMMC, Nand start, all open source "
<libv> "NandFlash driver, all open source
<gzamboni> lol, just saw that
<wens> well if they use eMMC, then there's no need to ship with the libnand driver
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