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<ssvb> ktemkin: about the mainline kernel support for MSI Primo73
<ssvb> the wiki is not the best place to attach patches
<ssvb> a better idea is to just publish a link to some branch in a github repository
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<ktemkin> noted-- feel free to relocate the patch, if you get to it before me
<ssvb> now that the OTG support is coming to the mainline kernel, we should try to ensure that the sun7i-a20-primo73.dts gets added to the same kernel release
<ssvb> preferably with the support for USB OTG, accelerometer (the driver is already available in the mainline kernel) and touchscreen
<ssvb> I did not push it harder earlier, because the tablet is not very useful without a working USB OTG support :)
<vovcia> `6hi :) i run cubietruck mainline - i wonder if there is some timeline for wifi and BT support?
<ssvb> ktemkin: it is a little bit different for you, because you have both the serial console and the sd card slot
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<ssvb> vovcia: AFAIK the wifi and BT support is unrelated to the sunxi platform code, these are just generic pieces of hardware connected via USB
<vovcia> ssvb: i dont think its usb in cubietruck
<vovcia> ssvb: bluetooth is through some weird pseudoserial (??)
<vovcia> and wifi is by androiidlike driver
<vovcia> i mean, its why i bought the board - builtin wifi and bt
<ssvb> vovcia: there is something in the wiki about it - http://linux-sunxi.org/Cubietruck/AP6210
<ssvb> vovcia: it is not us, who sold you this board, so if you are seeking this kind of support, then better contact cubietech :)
<vovcia> ssvb: i know this page its about 3.4 kernel
<vovcia> im wondering if someone is porting bcmdhd for cubietruck to mainline kernel.. :)))
<vovcia> because KVM and xen stuff is coooool :)))
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<lukas2511> so mh now i get "musb-sunxi 1c13000.usb: Error getting usb-phy -19"
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<lukas2511> mh interesting, now i got it to load, and also g_serial is loading fine, but test-host-system can't enumerate the usb device.. also musb_g_ep0_irq throws "SetupEnd came in a wrong ep0stage out/status" warnings
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<lukas2511> huh, interesting, works on a different machine, well, "yay \o/", i guess
<el3> lukas2511: I got it to work on pcduino3
<el3> g_usb_mass_storage
<lukas2511> yea i got it working now
<el3> nice What device?
<lukas2511> for some reason it doesn't work on one of the test hosts i have here, but works on 3 others...
<lukas2511> a20 olinuxino lime2
<el3> Okey. Mine was a bit buggy. crashed after ½hour running. That was upstream kernel. So now I struggle again to get it work
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<ssvb> el3: now I remember, you seemed to report some random crashes earlier (which may happen with misconfigured or defective hardware)
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<mrnuke> well, my cubieboard went tits up today
<mrnuke> lots of heat coming from the big chip on the back. I think it's dead for good
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<wens> nand chip...
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<mrnuke> wens: no, the other one. I think it's the ethernet phy
<mrnuke> I unplugged something from the USB cable from the OTG port when the shit hit the fan
<mrnuke> I probably had a ground loop
<mrnuke> eeh, I'll buy another one
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<wens> :(
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<mrnuke> yeah, I feel the same way. That board served me so well
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<buZz> does anyone know if A10/A20 can support sata disks bigger than 2TB ?
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<f15h> Is there a quick tutorial how to setup toolchain and environment to to cross-compiles of applications?
<f15h> *do
<plaes> yes
<f15h> which one would you recommend - I would like to do compiles of ffmpeg / gstreamer ...
<buZz> just the normal one should be fine
<buZz> on the wiki
<f15h> ok thanks
<el3> ssvb: Yes. So I started yocto project, and finally success fully built an cubieboard2. I think someone adviced me to try that first, but I dont know how to make the image for pcDuino3 in yocto. Then at last I tried mainline again. And it was successfull at last with alot of help from you and plaes, Now I just need to get g_mass_storage to work :)
<plaes> el3: you can test hans's patches
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<el3> plaes: hans patches? Where are those?
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<buZz> anyone know an answer to this?
<buZz> 09:24:01 < buZz> does anyone know if A10/A20 can support sata disks bigger than 2TB ?
<buZz> wish i had big enough hdds to just test it :P
<plaes> linux-sunxi mailing list
<plaes> el3: ^^
<el3> plaes: Thank you
<el3> plaes: I have never worked with patches. Where exactly do I put those scripts, and do I need to build a new kernel?
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<plaes> uh-oh..
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<el3> plaes: thanks again. :D you dealing with a noob here
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<plaes> first 4 sections should be enough...
<el3> ok
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<plaes> el3: how you doin'?
<el3> Reading :) trying to get my head arround that
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<rellla> levianthanch: would it be helpful, to start a wiki page with the issues/ questions we have on allwinner?
<rellla> an up-to-date todo list like the mainline kernel effort page? rather than splitting it into ml, git issue ...
<rellla> ^ leviathanch
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<oliv3r> mrnuke: do you have a gmane link where you want my reply? :)
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<el3> Hi I want to make a debian rootfs. So I follow this http://linux-sunxi.org/Bootable_SD_card#Using_debootstrap_-_Debian.2FUbuntu_based_distributions instead of using a sdcard, I just make a directory, and then, debootstrap --arch=armhf --foreign $distro debianRootFsDir. Than at this line -> ${card}${p}1/bootvfat defaults 0 0 should I omit that since I dont have a sdcard mounted
<el3> ?
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<el3> I got it. If you follow the guide, ${card}${p}1 will be undefined when chrooted or defined as just '1'. And even if it was defined, it would be wrong. On a ubuntu atleast it will be defined as /dev/sdb1, but in fstab it should be /dev/mmcblk0p1. Correct me if im wrong.
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<igraltist> hi
<igraltist> i need the address to define an initramfs in boot.cmd
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<nove> doesn't the wiki needs something similar to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Article_message_boxes
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<T0mW> What are these "magic numbers" being used in the device tree files? I understand that "gpios = <&pio 1 21 0>;" is referring to PB21, but where are these getting these number for the interrupts?, for example "interrupts = <0 8>;" or "interrupts = <0 24 4>;" ??
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<montjoie[home]> they certainly comes from datasheet
<T0mW> I need to describe the external interrupt on "PH20", so , I assume that I would use: "interrupts = <7 20 2>" for a high-to-low transtion on PH20.
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<T0mW> But, how do I use request_irq to tell the interrupt controller that I want the shared (IRQ 60?) to enable / recognize the interrupt input on PH20? Seems that I need a "magic number" to say that?
<T0mW> weird
<T0mW> I'm assuming tha that the gpio pins range from 0 (port A) .. 7 (port H), then if I want to use gpio_to_irq, I would calculate that the value for gpio_to_irq would be (PORT * 32) + PIN_OFFSET. Which would be 244 for PH20. However, a call to gpio_to_irq (244) fails.
<montjoie[home]> do like me, get the datasheet and search for an already done driver
<T0mW> montjoie[home]: googling for two days now...
<T0mW> montjoie[home]: seems all the info I come up with is not related to the sunxi, or refers to the older samsung way.
<T0mW> been over the data sheet, but all I find is that vector 60 is for the PIO. So, there must be a kernel code layer that breaks out the external interrupt inputs to some other value.
<T0mW> I've looked at schematics for Cubieboard(2) and Cubietruck hoping to find the external interrupt being used on them, but no joy.
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<T0mW> Hmm, something here for the A31, EP93XX_GPIO_A_INT_STATUS
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<Turl> T0mW: the interrupt numbers you can find on the user manuals
<Turl> T0mW: they used to be on the tree when we didn't have usermanuals, see https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/commit/?id=9339ce4577fe998af7e70c0cc4ac8147e3ee18eb
<T0mW> Turl: there doesn't seem to be any relation to the manual vs kernel. For example, the A20 manual says that SRC 64 is the MMC0 host controller. However, /proc/interrupts (3.19) has 26 as the sunxi-mmc vector.
<T0mW> Now, I understand that a vector does not need to mean it is coming from a source at that magic number location. It appears that /proc/interrupts is only refering to a slot in an interrupt vector table.
<Turl> T0mW: I don't know about /proc/interrupts, but the manual matches what you need to use in dt on interrupts = <...>
<Turl> eg mmc0 on dt says interrupts = <0 32 4>;
<Turl> and the manual says it's 64 (bear in mind the manual has an offset of 32 with all the sgi and ppi interrupts on the list head)
<Turl> T0mW: to use the interrupt on a EINT pin, I believe you need to use interrupts-extended = <&pio blah blah>
<T0mW> ah, okay, 55 is 55 + 32 == emac (see ethernet@01c0b000 in sun71-a20.dtsi), ok
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<T0mW> interrupt-extended = <&pio 7 20 2> ? e.g. PIO bank 7 (PH pins) offset 20 (PH20) with high-to-low edge (2) ?
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<Turl> T0mW: interrupts-extended, with s
<Turl> T0mW: and I think it only takes the bank and offset, no flag
<leviathanch> rellla: a wiki page would be helpfull indeed
<T0mW> yeah
<T0mW> leviathanch: yes
<leviathanch> rellla: can we agree that we have it billingual?
<leviathanch> having it english-chinese will simplify things a lot
<T0mW> Turl: So, I'm beginning to think that I make the dts definition such as this: http://pastebin.com/Sp7c9ZUu
<leviathanch> how many people in sunxi project can actually write/read Chinese?
<T0mW> Turl: so, my driver 'buspins' would magically get the irq handed to it?
<Turl> leviathanch: you, and wens maybe? :p
<leviathanch> okey
<Turl> leviathanch: benn, tom maybe
<leviathanch> Turl: Benn is at Allwinner
<leviathanch> he is quiet overworked actually and hasn't got time to translate our wiki page
<Turl> T0mW: I dunno what buspins is, but yeah
<Turl> T0mW: also, the s :)
<T0mW> s?
<Turl> T0mW: interruptS-extended
<T0mW> this seems to all drill down into of_irq_parse_one()
<leviathanch> nove: okey...
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<leviathanch> nove, rellla: already a nice start. is there also a page which lists exactly what documentations we need exactly?
<Turl> T0mW: you needn't worry about that
<leviathanch> nove, if yes, I can start translating it into Chinese
<Turl> T0mW: you just need to platform_get_irq + devm_request_irq or something like that on your probe
<T0mW> Turl: yeah, somehow I've got to make the connection between my dts interrupt-extended and the call to request_irq
<Turl> T0mW: see above ^
<T0mW> Turl: got it, thanks.
<mrnuke> oliv3r: I have no idea how to work gmane links :(
<T0mW> Turl: been too involved with older (2.6.29) s3c24xx kernels up to now. And, the 3.4.102 sunxi. Haven't had time to keep up with the device tree methodology.
<T0mW> Turl: Oooo, lots of grep hits on platform_get_irq() :)
<T0mW> also, there is a platform_get_irq_byname. I'm going to have to get kgdboc working on this kernel so I can start tracing down, if need be.
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<T0mW> Turl: thank you for taking the time for this?
<T0mW> Turl: thank you for taking the time for this
<diego71> T0mW: if you need to look around into the kernel sources, maybe it can help you: http://lxr.free-electrons.com/source/
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<Turl> T0mW: you're welcome :)
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<diego71> it saved me a lot of time, many years ago, when I was writing a driver
<nove> leviathanch: the page to track the requests for allwinner already had started, but as you can see had a short life, people want to have trust that things will happen, before spending time just to be ignored
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<leviathanch> nove: can not ignore me, since I'm also their sales guy in Switzerland and will soon be at their head quarter on regular basis as soon as I've got my work permit
<leviathanch> nove: which will allow me to ping these people in person if needed ;-)
<leviathanch> nove: are you mike valk?
<nove> leviathanch: no, i am not
<leviathanch> nove: do we know another as powerfull embedded GPU as PowerVR?
<leviathanch> the GPU engineers of Allwinner do not like PowerVR either
<leviathanch> since it's constantly crashing
<leviathanch> we can sugest another embedded GPU
<nove> leviathanch: mali-T
<nove> (bias answer)
<leviathanch> nove: it needs to have 4K capability...
<leviathanch> hmm
<nove> what is 4K capability?
<gzamboni> is there any info about using the framebuffer in the mainline with the last uboot?
<leviathanch> the guy who wrote most of the code within u-boot at Allwinner is just at his family (totally drunk I suppose)
<leviathanch> since it's new year for the next few weeks for the Chinese folks
<leviathanch> so no, didn't hear from him yet
<leviathanch> he has gotten a bunch of emails to answer though
<leviathanch> also some Chinese ones
<leviathanch> :)
<nove> leviathanch: (gpu) != (display engine) != (video decoding engine)
<leviathanch> nove: I'm totally aware of this
<nove> leviathanch: all expect gpu is allwinner IP
<diego71> leviathanch: vivante?
<leviathanch> NiteHawk: but the GPU needs to be enough powerfull to fill the buffer for the display controller dude
<leviathanch> nove: : but the GPU needs to be enough powerfull to fill the buffer for the display controller
<leviathanch> ahh
<leviathanch> diego71: that's an idea
<nove> libv: can you answer this?
<leviathanch> libv: please
<NiteHawk> leviathanch: ?
<leviathanch> sorry, wrong highlight, wanted to highlight nove
<leviathanch> NiteHawk: but maybe you know something about GPUs? ^^'
<NiteHawk> actually very little :D
<leviathanch> 可惜
<NiteHawk> what's wrong with Mali for 4K? the H3 seems to feature it and claims to support 4K@30fps
<leviathanch> NiteHawk: hmm?
<leviathanch> is this supported by the lima driver?
<NiteHawk> i have no idea :/
<leviathanch> if I had knewn that, I'd have gotten myself a retina display at SEG plaza in order to try >_>'
<NiteHawk> i'm implying that your focus is video decoding/display when focusing on that 4K requirement?
<leviathanch> yes
<leviathanch> it's actually a requirement from my professor ;-)
* leviathanch has this project for his bachelors thesis
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<nove> leviathanch: in the arm website, they only start speaking of 4K at Mali-T860 and newer
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<leviathanch> nove: we have to chance to propose an alternative gpu to Allwinner
<leviathanch> since I know the responsible for the GPU part
<leviathanch> I had some beers with him and sang karaoke with him
<leviathanch> and so on
<leviathanch> we know each other
<leviathanch> and he asked me for some advices
<leviathanch> so we should now check wisely for the best GPU for us to support in mainline
<leviathanch> and suggest it to them
<leviathanch> so that they can build it into the newest release of A64
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<bonbons> leviathanch: isn't memory bandwidth one of the bigger issues to drive 4K screen and populate it with smooth animated content (and still to something else in the background)?
<leviathanch> yes, the graphics memory...
<leviathanch> hmm
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<bonbons> graphics memory tends to be the same as system memory... and a quick calculation tells me 2GB/s bandwidth are needed to just refresh display with 4K at 60Hz
<el3> Does any of you know what I should put in <earlyprintk> ? setenv bootargs console=ttyS0,115200 <earlyprintk> root=/dev/mmcblk0p<partition> rootwait panic=10 ${extra}
<leviathanch> uhm
<leviathanch> el3: earlyprintk
<leviathanch> el3: should be sufficient
<leviathanch> el3: earlyprintk=serial[,ttySn[,baudrate]]
<leviathanch> works as well of course :)
<leviathanch> or earlyprintk=efi (if you are on efi)
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<el3> leviathanch setenv bootargs console=ttyS0,115200 earlyprintk=ttyS0,115200 root=/dev/mmcblk0p<partition> rootwait panic=10 ${extra}
<leviathanch> el3: Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
<leviathanch> el3: jep
<el3> leviathanch: thanks
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<nove> el3: also change <partition> to the partition number
<el3> nove: Yes
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<nove> leviathanch: who is better to answer that is arm itself
<NiteHawk> leviathanch: i'm getting the impression that lima wouldn't be primarily involved with hw video decoding - that's the job of CedarX? ("VPU")
<nove> leviathanch: and for all the gpus, it is power vr that has the lower chance to have a fully complete open source driver
<nove> NiteHawk: instead of cedarx, "cedar engine" is a more correct name
<NiteHawk> i see. CedarX is the name of Allwinner's specific (proprietary) implementation of this engine ("cedar"), while alternatives exist (-> cedrus)?
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<el3> Hi. i want to boot on sdCard. but my device keeps booting on nand. http://pastebin.com/Y2Xa9WGd
<el3> no misc partition is found
<el3> boot.cmd looks like this http://pastebin.com/8gZbuDYW
<Turl> el3: that's the nand bootloader
<Turl> el3: did you build uboot and dd it to your sd card?
<el3> I built the mainline kernel like this http://linux-sunxi.org/Mainline_Kernel_Howto
<el3> but I copied the files over
<el3> Do I have to dd it over?
<el3> my boot partition contains -> boot.cmd, boot.scr, pcduino.dtb and zImage
<el3> oke
<Turl> el3: you need uboot on your card or you're never going to bet it booting
<leviathanch> el3: look at my blog post
<Turl> get*
<el3> leviathanch: I am thank you
<leviathanch> :)
<el3> Turl: Okey.
<Turl> leviathanch: that git repo looks pretty out of date..
<Turl> http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot.git;a=summary or http://git.denx.de/?p=u-boot/u-boot-sunxi.git;a=summary would be a better fit
<Turl> and it has been migrated to kconfig, so configuration is a bit different
<ssvb> nove, libv: there is a very strange situation with the leaked PowerVR SGX drivers, apparently Imagination does not give shit about their DDK sources still being available on github
<el3> Turl: Wich should I choose for pcDuino ?
<el3> 3
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<Turl> el3: there's a target called pcduino3
<ssvb> nove, libv: the next step for Imagination would be to just provide this DDK with a proper open source license, and everyone wins in the end
<leviathanch> yeah
<leviathanch> hehe
<leviathanch> I'll sleep now
<Turl> ssvb: it leaked? where?
<Turl> :)
<ssvb> apparently it was accidentally released as part of the Android SDK of some LG phone, and the PVR DDK sources extracted from it are *still* available on github
<ssvb> after so many months
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<Turl> ssvb: maybe it's their excuse for going after people trying to RE
<ssvb> just compare the Imagination actions with something like http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=mtczndu ("Qualcomm DMCA Notice Takes Down 100+ Git Repositories") :)
<Turl> they hack to back off on that one :)
<Turl> they even took some of their own repos down
<ssvb> yeah, Qualcomm was worked up for nothing and has taken down innocent repositories, while Imagination just does not seem to care
<nove> ssvb: is the beginning of "share source", look also at the rockchip hantro v4l2 driver for chrome os, a "permissive license" + "proprietary confidential license" source code
<mrnuke> ssvb: what? and github complied?
<mrnuke> what a bunch of BS
<nove> posted in an everyone can access source repository
<ssvb> nove: yes, there is a danger in this, RMS is even unhappy about the regular BSD and considers it a threat (being particularly upset about LLVM)
<nove> correction: is not the v4l2 driver, is the libv4l plugin that has this two kind of licensed files
<ssvb> nove: but Imagination is now into the "open platform" business - http://www.elinux.org/MIPS_Creator_CI20
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<ssvb> nove: I would not be very surprised if they are just having some sort of internal struggle right now regarding whether to release the SGX driver as proper open source or not
<ssvb> nove: this could probably explain their lack of quick action on taking down the leaked DDK sources
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<nove> ssvb: the CI20 board feels to me, as to try to get the "community" to do the upstream work for them
<ssvb> nove: they have missed the train and are desperately trying to catch up
<ssvb> nove: and now they also have to compete with the Raspberry Pi 2, which (surprise surprise) has open source 3D drivers and the documentation for 3D hardware
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<nove> ssvb: at least the hardware (the XBurst thing) used for video decoding is open source software, is only the gpu that is not
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<nove> ssvb: and intel
<nove> ssvb: arm is also starting to distribute mali user land binaries
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<ssvb> nove: really? got a link about redistributable mali userland binaries?
<nove> ssvb: of course i am not the person to confirm if what is they really say is what it says it is
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<paulk-collins> ssvb, since we're now direct customers to imgtec with the ci20, I suggest that many of us just get one and complain about the lack of free graphics :)
<paulk-collins> and btw, are you guys aware of the details of the armv7 rpi's bootloader?
<nove> (thanks to #linux-rockchip for the info)
<ssvb> paulk-collins: intel also has non-free firmware, but very few people care
<paulk-collins> non-free firmware for what exactly?
<paulk-collins> you mean the bootloader/bios?
<ssvb> paulk-collins: yes
<paulk-collins> well I heard there is some progress on coreboot with the minnowboard max
<paulk-collins> and at least, it's not signed on x86 AFAIK
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<ssvb> nove: the license ARM is providing with these mali binaries is way too funny (not allowed to redistribute? not allowed to publish benchmark results? wat?)
<paulk-collins> lolz
<ssvb> paulk-collins: http://elinux.org/Minnowboard:MinnowMaxCoreboot says "Download the original firmware binary" and points to the Intel website
<paulk-collins> I'd have to look at the details, perhaps (most likely actually) there is still a blob for dram and vga
<paulk-collins> anyway
<paulk-collins> bye
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<nove> same
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