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<libv> allwinner just posted libcedarv code
<libv> and the binary in there breaches ffmpeg and VP62 licenses.
<libv> yet now Allwinner definitely is to blame directly.
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<libv> absolutely no doubt left.
<libv> cloned and github forked. there will be no taking this back.
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<plaes> uhh.. cedar seems to have 11 different chip variants
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<wingrime> Aw release some crap again in their repo
<wingrime> More closed source libs
<wingrime> For cedar
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<kerneldeveloperm> hi everyone have nice day
<kerneldeveloperm> im trieng using a gpu on radxa rock
<kerneldeveloperm> when i tried es2gears, i taka error
<kerneldeveloperm> Device Driver API mismatch
<kerneldeveloperm> Deivce driver API verision 20
<kerneldeveloperm> User space API version 19
<kerneldeveloperm> what is wrong ?, please sombedy help me please
<quitte_> kerneldeveloperm: the Deivce driver API verision is 20 while the user space API is version 19
<kerneldeveloperm> yeah it's tru the radxa said it when i give a command es2gears
<kerneldeveloperm> what must i do ?
<quitte_> use the same api versoin in both
<kerneldeveloperm> how is it ? , im a new about this, and while i installed driver, i follow androtab web site
<quitte_> link?
<kerneldeveloperm> i used this
<quitte_> is that with xf86-video-fb-turbo?
<kerneldeveloperm> yeah but i couldn't install this driver
<kerneldeveloperm> when i want to install this driver , i take a error :./configure: line 17929: syntax error near unexpected token `RANDR,'
<kerneldeveloperm> ./configure: line 17929: `XORG_DRIVER_CHECK_EXT(RANDR, randrproto)'
<quitte_> then it had no effect. what did you do for "build userland binaries" ? Whatever that was you need to use a newer version there
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<kerneldeveloperm> What's new in version? i installed module first drm then mali_drm , ump, mali, and i nstalled xorg and installed sunxi-mali egl driver
<kerneldeveloperm> this is last or suitable for me driver
<kerneldeveloperm> ?
<kerneldeveloperm> so if i compiled this driver , my problem is will solve ?
<quitte_> i don't know.
<kerneldeveloperm> hihiihi lol :) ok :) thanks again :)
<kerneldeveloperm> now i'm trying this
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<kerneldeveloperm> EQLUT: failed to initiliaze EGL display
<kerneldeveloperm> soo <quitte_> i did it but error EQLUT: failed to initiliaze EGL display
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<oliv3r> libv: good man libv!
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<nove> It's like the video engine reverse engineering effort that successful got results never existed.
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<nove> one thing is clear, I in no way will waste my time to write a driver to reward a gpl violator in this conditions.
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<rds> Allwinner is a lost case, after 4 years they continue to violate GPL and their products, usually don't work correctly, full of bugs
<rds> most of these companies around them, like CubieTech are out of business
<rds> they hardly can make crap tablets to "function
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<rds> I say "function", since they don't really work reliably
<rds> great work LIBV, continue the pressure
<rds> and would be nice of the whole "sunxi" team would formally state that they would stop working on anything, until all violations are fixed
<rds> those suckers don't deserve the effort done by this community
<simosx> yeah, it looks like free/opensource does not increase their business so why make any effort?
<simosx> /sarcasm
<simosx> the fact that they created the github report for mediacodec is a positive sign. what benefit would they have in any case?
<simosx> *repo
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<rds> because they had 4 years and that is a little too late
<rds> they should have released the whole ENCODER/DECODER code, full of examples
<simosx> they are showing interest to do this now.
<ssvb> rds: people do have old allwinner a10/a13/a20 hardware, which is sufficiently documented and reverse engineered by now
<rds> how to use either in many diffrent scenarios, like to set different rates, which profiles are available. Not the same crasp
<rds> crap as earlier
<ssvb> rds: there is absolutely no reason to stop working on it
<rds> I do have a bunch of useless Allwinner devices
<rds> they just sitting here, getting dust since they dn'
<rds> don't work correctly
<ssvb> rds: most likely it just means that your skills suck
<rds> Like many others, decided to move to another CPU brand, since they can't get their act together
<ssvb> rds: go and by a raspberry pi ;)
<ssvb> *buy
<wens> pi 2 , with armv7
<simosx> it makes business sense to be open, and it looks there is effort towards that direction.
<rds> yes, my skills suck, but most importantly is to make the decision to go one or the other
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<rds> you all are good developers, but have failed to bring a SW for Allwiner to work perfectly
<rds> check the mainling list how many people wants to play their HD video and they simply can't for the last 4 years
<ssvb> rds: except that they can
<simosx> you want to play on Linux (X.Org) or Android?
<ssvb> rds: have you ever checked https://github.com/linux-sunxi/libvdpau-sunxi ?
<rds> please tell me how!
<rds> that as the page says is a proof of concept and not something that you can build a product around it
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<rds> even the excellent work done there, there is no guarantee that the info is final, and the manufacturer has had a chance for many years to add to it
<rds> but they decide to be silent about it.
<rds> LIBV has been the only one that fully understands their intent
<rds> and he has been proofed right many times before
<rds> get to go to work to make a buck or two to pay the bills!
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<simosx> cheerleading and stuff...
<ssvb> rds: is "only decoding of h264, mpeg1 and mpeg2" not good enough for you?
<ssvb> :)
<premoboss> rds, we are waiting for your capabiliti in programming.
<premoboss> if you are so apble to complain, for sure you will be able to fix the missed part of code :-)
<wens> reminds me about this talk i missed at fosdem
<premoboss> all there people here are voluntieers on hardware without all the specs, what the are doing can be only appreciated, imo.
<nove> wens: we can't fork hardware (not yet)
<wens> nove: weren't you complaining about software?
<arete74_>
<wens> legal talk videos not available yet...
<simosx> i went to that one
<nove> wens: but, is reverse engineering allways the solution, at what cost?
<nove> if we reverse engineering all the things, we are giving the message that the software licenses are a detail that can be ignored
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<rellla> hm rds, said and quit.
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<nove> eventually, making copyleft licenses the same value as permissive licenses
<simosx> wens, the fork+ignore was about a software that was initially MIT-licensed but (c) belonging to a company. When the company made it closed source, the community took the last free version, forked it and kept it going. Similar to OpenOffice.org->LibreOffice.
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<wens> hmm... what i thought it was was something else
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<ssvb> simosx: how was this talk GPL related then?
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<Turl> moin
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<simosx> ssvb, it was originally licensed with MIT, then GPL. While under GPL it was "made" closed source and the fork took place.
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<lioka> cubietruck, u-boot 2015.01, ahci: works with some random 2.5", doesn't with ssd. later, in kernel, both are ok. rings any bell ?
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<maz> lioka: same issue here. put my kernel on the sd-card, problem solved.
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<mnemoc> lioka: power?
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<ssvb> mnemoc: more like some sata support issue in u-boot (I would guess that ssd needs less power)
<ssvb> lioka: maybe report this to the mainline u-boot mailing list
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<bobradley> Good Day to all. I have a bricked txcz A20 (bba22/baa22) box that powers on but has nothing else displaying. Any suggestions where I can find firmware for it that I can try reloading?
<lioka> maz: well, yes, done that too, but ...
<ssvb> bobradley: if anyone had any idea, a link to this recovery firmware image would be here - http://linux-sunxi.org/TXCZ_A20#Manufacturer_images
<ssvb> bobradley: feel free to update the wiki after you find something usable
<ssvb> lioka: so your next action is?
<lioka> ssvb: dunno. strictly speaking i can live with kernel on sd card, otoh i'm not alone with this problem, seems reasonable to report to ml
<bobradley> ssvb: thank you
<ssvb> bobradley: but of course, you can install gnu/linux on this box
<ssvb> bobradley: the instructions are provided on the wiki page
<bobradley> ssvb: i may give that a try, thanks
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<ssvb> bobradley: people here mostly care about the traditional linux, and don't do android development
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<MY123> ssvb: Is it possible to push the TPIDRURW fix to linux-sunxi?
<MY123> (it is in Linux mainline since 3.11-rc1)
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<ssvb> MY123: what is TPIDRURW?
<ssvb> MY123: do you have a patch?
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<MY123> ssvb: bugs.winehq.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31322
<MY123> ssvb: It is the second thread register on ARM
<mnemoc> ssvb: i remember some SSDs needing >1A on start
<ssvb> MY123: just send a patch to the linux-sunxi mailing list
<MY123> ssvb: I can't for now
<ssvb> MY123: too bad for the TPIDRURW register and the ARM Windows users then
<ssvb> MY123: how is one expected to test if this is working?
<MY123> ssvb: I tested a patch here and my Windows RT apps are working unmodified on Wine :-)
<MY123> (only if I compile wine with gcc-4.7, it may be a compiler bug for GCC4.6)
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<gnyers> Hi... I'm trying to verify my email address so that I can create and edit pages on the Wiki. I get this error: Mailer returned: Unknown error in PHP's mail() function.
<gnyers> What should I do?
<gnyers> I'm of course talking about http://linux-sunxi.org/Special:ConfirmEmail
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<mnemoc> gnyers: you might be the first person registering since the wiki was reinstalled....
<gnyers> mnemoc: great :-) so how to fix it?
<mnemoc> errormsg='cannot locate host mx.linux-sunxi.org: Name or service not known'
<mnemoc> arrrrgs... damn DNS issues
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<mnemoc> gnyers: can you try now?
<gnyers> mnemoc: looks like it's working again. thx!
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<mnemoc> gnyers: thank you for reporting the problem
<gnyers> mnemoc: np. thx for fixing it ;-)
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