<skiboy>
Is anybody active on the channel at this time of day?
<smaeul>
depends on the day?
<skiboy>
I had some questions about modifications to the wiki
<smaeul>
sorry, I don't know the answers
<skiboy>
I'll just go ahead and post it and see if anyone replies
<skiboy>
Xunlong made 2 new boards, the Orange Pi Zero H5, and the Orange Pi Zero2 H5. both appear to use the H5 as a drop-in replacement SoC. Do these boards deserve their own pages, or can they be listed as variations of existing boards?
<skiboy>
Also, how do we determine if there are any GPL violations in the software that Allwinner has released for the H5?
<skiboy>
I'm also kind of wondering why Allwinner doesn't just contribute to the kernel like a normal company does when they release a new SoC
<skiboy>
Oh, and the H5 page is missing a release date, even though it
<skiboy>
's already been released. Do we know the month it came out?
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<skiboy>
Actually these Xunlong guys seem to be cranking out boards faster than we can document them
<skiboy>
Not really surprising considering the amount of available documentation on the SoCs
<MoeIcenowy>
I think there's still GPL violations for H5.
<skiboy>
How can it be determined?
<MoeIcenowy>
although I think AW is trying to solve them
<MoeIcenowy>
you can find for files prefixed "lib" and without suffix in the lichee SDK
<MoeIcenowy>
and then use file command to check them
<MoeIcenowy>
if it's "ELF xx-bit LSB relocatable" or "current ar archive"
<MoeIcenowy>
you can assume it's a blob
<skiboy>
Is this the same toolchain/SDK that is on the Orange Pi site?
<skiboy>
Which just seems to contain binary files. Looks like it has something to do with uboot
<skiboy>
Not sure what these are used for
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<oliv3r>
Hey all, I'm curious. the A20 datasheet metions 2 HDMI interrupts, 0 at 90 (58) and 1 at 118 (86). Since we only have 1 hdmi controller, what is the second interrupt for? My guess would be the DDC controller?
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<plaes>
oliv3r: it could be...
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<skiboy>
Why are all of Allwinner's datasheets marked confidential when they really aren't?
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<KotCzarny>
may be they are
<KotCzarny>
:P
<skiboy>
They kind of need them not to be if they ever want mainline support
<skiboy>
seems like a disadvantage to them to not release the datasheet
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<skiboy>
Just the fact that they left out RSA documentation on the H3 and H5 is giving kernel devs a hard time
<skiboy>
also H6 hype
<KotCzarny>
if they cared about being open they would cooperate with community more
<KotCzarny>
apparently they dont need that part
<skiboy>
Are they improving at all?
<KotCzarny>
define 'improving'
<BenG83>
I think they just don´t care about formal stuff that much
<skiboy>
less GPL violations, mode info released?
<BenG83>
if you google long enough you usually can find versions that dont have watermarks
<skiboy>
maybe it's a cultural barrier
<skiboy>
a lot of Chinese companies keep secrets pretty closely guarded
<skiboy>
While more things are moving towards being open over here in the West
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<Langoor>
sooo.. I have an Inet k100c and im a little bit stuck getting anything to run on it
<Langoor>
some random prebuilt OS images I tried (and flashed them on SD) appear to work a bit (mostly I see something appearing on the hdmi output, and it appears to boot, but just reboots after)
<skiboy>
If there's one thing I've learned with messing about with ARM boards... It's usually the SD card
<oliv3r>
plaes: i'll try to somehow generate an interrupt and check if that interrupt fires :)
<skiboy>
It's why I don't like boards without built-in emmc
<skiboy>
SD cards just fail on me too much. Really bottom of the barrel stuff when it comes to flash
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<KotCzarny>
skiboy: try industrial or single model cells?
<KotCzarny>
*mode
<KotCzarny>
ie. slc
<skiboy>
I never really looked into it that much when getting an SD card. I'll have to now
<Langoor>
anyone who can help with a20 tablets? :x
<plaes>
help how?
<Langoor>
getting something to work on it..
<Langoor>
its a Inet k100c, I couldnt get the BSP to compile, my idea was to get a prebuilt image and put the tablet's bsp in it
<plaes>
we don't really deal with BSP's here
<Langoor>
hmm, maybe my idea was stupid, but I dont really know anything better
<Langoor>
im rather noob at this :x
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<Langoor>
I did found a fex file for this device, but I dont know how to use it :x
<KotCzarny>
have you seen the wiki?
<Langoor>
yeah, im browsing it atm
<KotCzarny>
good source of info
<KotCzarny>
to know what boots what and what is needed to make things work
<BenG83>
what image/sources are you trying to run on your tablet?
<Langoor>
currently just flashed armbian legacy on the SD
<Langoor>
using an external HDMI monitor, it does output the bootscreen
<Langoor>
I found a guide how to build scrip.bin from a .fex, so i'll try that
<BenG83>
sounds like a plan
<Langoor>
Ubuntu 16.04.2 LTS, bananapi login
<Langoor>
on the LVDS panel
<Langoor>
its something :P
<plaes>
hmm.. LVDS
<Langoor>
the new script.bin got the lvds panel to work
<Langoor>
and usb otg works so I can input using an external keyboard
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<skiboy>
fex files aren't used on things like the H3 and H5, right? Because we have device trees now?
<Langoor>
yes, fex is legacy
<Langoor>
iirc
<skiboy>
cool. That's one less thing that I have to worry about then.
<skiboy>
Man, I'm learning so much just being on here and browsing and contributing to the wiki
<Langoor>
WOW
<Langoor>
it booted
<Langoor>
im looking at a desktop on the lvds panel now :D
<skiboy>
Like my mom always told me "If you're the smartest person in the room, you're in the wrong f'n room."
<skiboy>
Langoor: Great!
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<Langoor>
only thing thats not working now are the keys and touch.. I read the FT5402DQT is supported, but cant get it to work
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<plaes>
mripard: when can I send follow-up patches for a10/a20 ccu device trees?
<FergusL>
Anyone knows how to check/fix drift for hardware rtc clock? I've got a gradually increasing drift of about 30/45 seconds
<plaes>
besides, cheap modules are probably lacking decoupling caps for power supply
<FergusL>
thanks for the help and links!
<KotCzarny>
FergusL: hwclock uses /etc/adjtime
<beeble>
FergusL: if you know your rtc drift you can set in the adjtime file
<KotCzarny>
man hwclock for lenghty explanation what and how
<beeble>
and then setup a cronjob to correct your rtc accordingly with hwclock
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<vagrantc>
just got a pinebook-14, wondering if it will default to booting off of the microSD rather than the eMMC as shipped
* vagrantc
still needs to put together an adapter to use the serial console via the headphone jack
<beeble>
a64 bootorder is microsd, emmc, spi, otg
* vagrantc
wonders if blind debugging is worth even trying
<vagrantc>
sure, but i don't have u-boot on the microsd, was wondering if the u-boot will first check microsd
<beeble>
nand somewhere inbetween, but don't know where at the moment
<vagrantc>
i have no hope of using a patched u-boot till i have a serial console :)
<beeble>
don't know what is shipped with a pinebook
<beeble>
best to ask BenG83
<vagrantc>
BenG83_: ^^ ? :)
<vagrantc>
there is always "just trying it" :)
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<aleksandr>
Hello! I would by happy to receive any help. I want to boot the u-boot over FEL (H5 soc). Is it difficult to implement it?
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<BenG83_>
vagrantc, sdcard has priority over eMMC
<BenG83_>
we already have at least three people working on mainline for PB in some form
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<BenG83_>
one guy from freebsd got u-boot working yesterday again
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<vagrantc>
BenG83_: thanks!
<beeble>
i think the question was more of "what lists your boot_targets in u-boot"
<vagrantc>
does the default u-boot support distro_bootcmd ?
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<vagrantc>
because then i'd have a fairly good idea of what to put on the microSD and it should "just work" :)
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<smaeul>
vagrantc: distro_bootcmd is enabled by defconfig, yes
<vagrantc>
hrm. first attempt at booting from microSD just booted off of the eMMC instead
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<vagrantc>
looks like i'll just need to get an adapter to get serial console output
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<vagrantc>
what version of u-boot was it based off of?
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<miasma>
I noticed a funny thing with opi pc. I power it on with a dc plug. then disconnect the plug, it stays on. i realize it draws all power from usb otg. I unplug usb otg, it still stays on. now it draws power via usb connected to the serial pins. is it any way possible to prevent these voltage leaks without modifying your cables?
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<KotCzarny>
nope, those little buggers steal power from any source they can
<miasma>
apparently i can prevent the usb problem by cutting +5V wire from usb
<KotCzarny>
:)
<miasma>
what would be a good resistor for serial? would 1kohm still work
<miasma>
but ethernet is isolated, right?
<KotCzarny>
pray it doesnt power on wifi waves :P
<miasma>
hehe
<beeble>
miasma: add an diode into the rx line of serial
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<miasma>
that could work
<beeble>
miasma: if not enabled you will have to enable the pullup on soc for that pin
<beeble>
+the
* vagrantc
listens to the serial console bootup noise on the pine64
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<KotCzarny>
modem times getting come back?
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<vagrantc>
back to my roots
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<Langoor>
I'll ask again, can someone help with touch on my k100c (focaltech)
<KotCzarny>
modprobe ft5x ?
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<Langoor>
KotCzarny: thats what I did, gives an `operation not premitted`
<Langoor>
(ofc I ran it with sudo)
<KotCzarny>
as root?
<Langoor>
sudo, yes
<KotCzarny>
dmesg ?
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<KotCzarny>
there is another driver mentioning focaltech aw5306_ts
<Langoor>
they list 1024*600 there for the touch screen, wich is the screen resolution
<Langoor>
touch panel has a smaller resolution
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<vagrantc>
ok, u-boot shipped on pinebook is based on v2014.07, apparently...
<vagrantc>
bbut i have serial console, at least...
<vagrantc>
definitely not supporting distro_bootcmd
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* vagrantc
wonders how far off pine64_plus is from the pinebook u-boot target
* Langoor
is still having a fight with his touchscreen
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<vagrantc>
this version of u-boot apparently only supports the built-in eMMC
* vagrantc
sighs for the pinebook
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<vagrantc>
ok, there's not enough room on the /boot partition for an additional kernel+initrd ... but at least i loaded the kernel+dtb 4.13-rc6 on the pinebook and saw output on the serial console...
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