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<hanetzer> ok, got further along regarding petitboot as a coreboot payload :)
<suprothunderbolt> hopefully I'll get DSI panel working today... trying a clean build of the DSI-V9 tree without any of the RT patches etc
<suprothunderbolt> any idea how to get current mainline kernels to generate a dtb deb package?
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<anarsoul> suprothunderbolt: kernel doesn't generate any packages, it's up to you (or rather distro maintainer) to package it
<vagrantc> suprothunderbolt: you mean as part of "make deb-pkg" ? i don't think it's supported yet.
<suprothunderbolt> i meant with make deb-pkg
<suprothunderbolt> earlier kernels built the dtb tree, 5 doesn't seem to
<suprothunderbolt> much to my surprise :)
<vagrantc> i've never seen it include .dtb files in the generated linux-image.*deb packages
<suprothunderbolt> for me it generates a separate dtb package
<vagrantc> then i don't understand your question, as i thought you were asking how to generate a dtb deb package.
<suprothunderbolt> yeah, it did for previous kernels
<suprothunderbolt> but now when I run the same command it doesn't. So I assume there's a new command for generating the dtbs or something...
<suprothunderbolt> I ran make bindeb-pkg
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<suprothunderbolt> oh I might have been running a patched make script before... it all makes sense, sorry for the confusion
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<suprothunderbolt> smaeul, awesome thanks
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<suprothunderbolt> smaeul: mmm that patch puts them in /usr/lib it seems instead of /boot not sure if where everything is meant to be has changed
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<wens> you have to manually install them (or use something like flashrom with some kernel package postinst triggers)
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<wens> MoeIcenowy: do you know the size of the dc plug on the q8 tablets? I can't seem to find the right plug for it
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<MoeIcenowy> wens: I think they use the old Nokia plug?
<wens> 3.5 / 0.9?
<wens> doesn't seem like it
<wens> the other one is 2.0 / 0.6
<wens> I've been using 2.35 / 0.7 dc plugs, and they are really loose
<wens> too bad, I think I threw out my old nokia stuff years ago
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<suprothunderbolt> has anyone got a DSI panel working? If yes, which kernel / branch did you build?
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<pgreco> wens, any help with https://patchwork.kernel.org/patch/10897965/ ?
<wens> pgreco: something like that
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<wens> yes
<pgreco> wens, thanks, I'll start working on v3
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<avernos> tried this: https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Allwinner but gets stuck at starting kernel. followed the troubleshooting with no avail. is it a10 not supported anymore?
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<jo0nas> avernos: Debian developer here - what more specifically did you try which failed?
<jo0nas> I mean, which board do you have, and which Debian build of u-boot did you try?
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<avernos> jo0nas, tried all the stable options, perhaps should try the daily ones as well. but i see several broken links to older builds which i couldnt find. tried setting bootm_boot_mode to "sec". tried ISO on usb, uboot on usb. all attempts on netinstall
<avernos> uboot loads just fine, just any attempt to boot, gets stuck on kernel loading
<fALSO> dts ?
<avernos> i've tried several ways to disable hdmi (fb?) and vga, setenv bootargs fb=false stderr=serial stdout=serial to disable vga
<avernos> i have dts disabled.. on seria
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<avernos> diego71, with firmware and partition on SD alone and the installer boots?
<avernos> without serial?
<jo0nas> avernos: sorry if I missed it - which board do you have?
<avernos> cubieboard1
<diego71> it boots, but usually you need a serial
<avernos> diego71, im using mostly serial, want it headless, but im concerned hdmi is enabled somewhere else.. or that one with other conflicts
<diego71> the serial console is indipendent from hdmi
<diego71> you can try to add this to the kernel parameter for debug: setenv bootargs console=ttyS0,115200 earlyprintk root=/dev/mmcblk0p<partition> rootwait panic=10
<jo0nas> avernos: with "stock on kernel loading" do you mean u-boot refuses to load the kernel you feed it, or failure at initramfs stage, or somewhere later?
<avernos> diego71, you add fw and partition to SD and the netinstaller just boots?
<diego71> avernos: no, I just followed the istruction I linked before (sd card image)
<diego71> I never tested the netinstaller version
<jo0nas> avernos: which part of the wiki page did you try? It is a rather long page with many ways
<jo0nas> avernos: is it that specific part of the wiki page you followed, or some other part?
<avernos> jo0nas, say we stick to that part, followed it exactly as is. it just gets stuck on that kernel loading
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<avernos> jo0nas, tried that one the most. but have attempted USB, same results. and tftp but didnt follow through most since looks like the problem will be same at loading kernel
<jo0nas> did you try set console to tty1 and attach a monitor?
<avernos> installing from SD, gets me the newer uboot, which is very nice has more options. would like to write it to nand and update current one as well.
<diego71> avernos: try to add the console and earlyprintk parameter to the kernel. It should give you more information
<jo0nas> and since you mentioned daily images: you should *not* need to use a daily image - the notes about that in this wiki section are old and reference a bug that has since been fixed (the link to the bug is stroken out)
<avernos> jo0nas, didnt. would that affect the kernel. thought monitor would probably complicate load process more and wont change kernel loading
<avernos> diego71, thanks! a bit more verbose would jelp
<avernos> help*
<jo0nas> yes, setting console in u-boot affects what kernel cmdline u-boot computes and passes to linux
<avernos> alirght, going to a try then
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<jo0nas> possibly what you experience when not passing any options is that linux runs serial interface at a different speed
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<avernos> jo0nas, serial baudrate is on uboot by default, sould be passed to kernel, right? at any rate, tried as well to run it with hdmi in case serial messed up with same results.
<jo0nas> ...so if it works sending output to monitor by setting tty1, you might try setting it to ttyS0,115200 to see if that helps catch kernel output on serial line
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<KotCzarny> jo0nas, you dont use any leds to signal boot stages?
<jo0nas> KotCzarny: not sure what you mean
<KotCzarny> ie. i personally light up some led pattern in boot, then in kernel, then in rc.local
<KotCzarny> makes it easier to pinpoint what failed even before grabbing serial console
<jo0nas> avernos: possibly u-boot default serial port settings and linux default serial port settings are not equal
<jo0nas> KotCzarny: that sounds cool - care to point me to how that is doable?
<KotCzarny> usually requires leds defined in dts, but often they are
<KotCzarny> then its just toggling gpios in uboot, and setting led trigger in dts
<jo0nas> I am new to messing with u-boot details like GPIOs and leds, so will need some guidance on that
<jo0nas> ...and am interested also in your experience - e.g. which kind of signalling you've found intuitive
<KotCzarny> for example on my opipc board (self brewed, so nothing generic)
<jo0nas> ...or better yet, point me to some (pseudo)standard for bootup signalling
<KotCzarny> gpio toggle 362; sleep 1; # gpio toggle 15; gpio toggle 362; sleep 1;
<KotCzarny> most board have at least green led
<KotCzarny> and often second led (red or blue)
<KotCzarny> i like to use green as 'power-on' and red/blue as disk activity (mmc0 trigger)
<jo0nas> there is not standardization? Would it be possible to try standardize e.g. across Allwinner boards?
<KotCzarny> would require naming leds in uboot's dts i guess
<jo0nas> yes, some (pseudo-)standardized naming in dts is what I was thinking
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<jo0nas> I see there is the notion of aliases in dts
<KotCzarny> in kernel they are often named, but still random at times
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<jo0nas> from a distro perspective, I find it far more rewarding to work on standardizing across boards than to tune boards one by one independently at a higher level
<jo0nas> KotCzarny: sounds like a good start if kernel has _some_ general naming - can you point me to concrete examples of that?
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<KotCzarny> ls /sys/./firmware/devicetree/base/leds/status_led/
<KotCzarny> and pwd_led
<KotCzarny> that's from 4.16 kernel, dont know if it didnt change
<KotCzarny> otherwise: ls /sys/./devices/platform/leds/leds/
<KotCzarny> s/pwd_/pwr_/
<jo0nas> KotCzarny: is your own work public somewhere? I am deep into other things at the moment, but would like to get back to this later
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<jo0nas> thanks for the pointers!
<KotCzarny> nah, just some simple hacks in uboot.cmd, kernel config and rc.local, didnt think its big enough to publicize. although might be wiki material
<jo0nas> fair enough - please do consider throwing it on a wiki (for my sake if nothing else)
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<jo0nas> if you don't have a place yourself, feel free to put it at https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTinker
<KotCzarny> i usually throw sunxi related things on linux-sunxi wiki
<jo0nas> fine by me :-)
<KotCzarny> might be of use to peek how armbian folks handled that area
<KotCzarny> since they are somehow standardized build across boards
<jo0nas> yes - I have them in mind :-)
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<KotCzarny> i personally found it nice to blink once in uboot, then set pwr_led to hearbeat in kernel, then make it either 'on' or trigger on mmc0 in rc.local
<KotCzarny> in similar way routers blink their power led
<KotCzarny> and set to 'on' once system finished booting
<jo0nas> that sounds sensible
<jo0nas> ...and requires only a single led so should be doable across many types of boards
<KotCzarny> if you have two leds on particular board, its nice to set green to 'on' and red to 'mmc0'
<KotCzarny> to see when things get read/written
<jo0nas> you mean like hdd activity?
<jo0nas> right
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<KotCzarny> but since it's up to user's preference it's easily done in rc.local
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<avernos> diego71, you mentioned: setenv bootargs console=ttyS0,115200 earlyprintk root=/dev/mmcblk0p<partition> rootwait panic=10
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<jo0nas> I'm thinking on how it could be more elegantly configurable in Debian - i.e. hooking into multiple packages instead of requiring manually editing a file
<avernos> im a bit lost at the partition parameter
<jo0nas> it is a digit - typically 0 or 1 depending on how you formatted your device
<KotCzarny> jo0nas: since it could affect more systems, it's surely something to be thought over by distro maintainer ;)
<jo0nas> avernos: root parameter is important to _finalize_ a boot but not important to test if you receive kernel messages
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<diego71> avernos: you just need to add the console and earlyprintk parameter. You should already have a root parameter somewhere, probably computed by uboot script.
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<diego71> avernos: I suggest to learn a bit of uboot scripting. It can be useful to debug boots problem
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<avernos> diego71, would like to learn more about uboot, fascinating project, but im a bit at a loss without some stupidme guide. havent done much about this in a while.. gotta keep some more notes around else forget things
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<avernos> tried earlyprintk, havent seen any change tho. and http://linux-sunxi.org/Kernel_arguments reports that its useless
<plaes> jo0nas: btw.. I've been using debian-based rootfs + my own kernel + fastboot for eMMC installation: http://linux-sunxi.org/Fastboot
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<diego71> avernos: so the problem is someware in the kernel...
<diego71> try some older version of the installer
<avernos> diego71, i think so.. was hoping to find some earlier kernels on debian. but couldnt
<avernos> then somehow update it within the distro.
<avernos> but i had it running and broke it just updating the kernel
<avernos> that is why i am trying to do a fresh install
<avernos> so my guess is that something isnt working on the kernel or perhaps the dts
<avernos> dont know much to debug confirm this tho...
<diego71> when you update the kernel, the old version is still on the disk
<diego71> usually you have some link in /boot that points to the latest kernel, but you can change to an older one
<avernos> diego71, right, but dont know how to select the kernel (if is still there) on uboot
<avernos> ah... thanks!
<MoeIcenowy> U-Boot is not as powerful as GRUB
<avernos> going to try that now as well
<MoeIcenowy> it can only support VFAT and EXT2/3/4
<avernos> EXT2/3/4 is very nice already...
<MoeIcenowy> to be honest I use btrfs for my Allwinner devices ;-)
<MoeIcenowy> /dev/mmcblk2p2 on / type btrfs (rw,relatime,compress=zstd,ssd,space_cache,subvolid=5,subvol=/)
<plaes> o_O
<avernos> xD, i might get there someday..
<KotCzarny> MoeIcenowy: does grub work with allwinner? o.O
<MoeIcenowy> this is my PIneH64, running as a buildbot of my distro
<MoeIcenowy> KotCzarny: I think no
<KotCzarny> ok, i thought i've missed some news. ;)
<avernos> found some kernels on the web (for A10), but mostly 2010-2013. dont think im going to bake a new one.. but i'll regret it much
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<MoeIcenowy> KotCzarny: I don't think so
<avernos> broken links on debian page are around 2015/7
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<plaes> avernos: make sunxi_defconfig && make bindeb-pkg
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<KotCzarny> MoeIcenowy: also, it's nice to have separate boot partition anyway, and then vfat/ext is sufficient
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<MoeIcenowy> yes
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<KotCzarny> that matrix thing seems unstable, heh
<fALSO> LOL
<fALSO> useless, slow and was recently hacked
<Ke> still completely without relevant competition sadly
<Ke> most relevant competitors are email and retroshare
<fALSO> use tmux/screen or a BNC
<fALSO> stop giving controll of all your chats to "other people"
<fALSO> because they wont do anything with it
<fALSO> they just like to waste money on servers and bandwidth
<fALSO> for the good of the world :-P
<Ke> matrix is less controlled than irc
<fALSO> matrix is over complicated
<fALSO> in every way
<Ke> that is probably true, but as noted, no relevant competition that I am aware of
<Ke> and I have looked
<fALSO> I run the Portuguese IRC network
<Ke> combination of e2e support and non-centralized system that allows offline messaging is just almost empty set
<fALSO> i looked into that
<fALSO> the irc bridge for matrix
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<fALSO> and you need like a cluster of 5000 machines with 512GB of ram
<fALSO> to just bridge a channel with liek 100 users
<fALSO> LOL
<Ke> seems about right
<fALSO> crappy node.js
<Ke> yes
<fALSO> i think theres also a python one, in twisted
<fALSO> but also sucks
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<fALSO> too bad
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<Ke> fALSO: have you checked this is unfixable without changing protocol
<fALSO> yes, IRC has a very very very very BASIC protocol
<fALSO> and matrix has a very very very over engineered one
<Ke> IRC is just no-go, it has no e2e and offline messaging
<Ke> also people probably expect file sharing nowadays also
<fALSO> lol using http for chat
<Ke> agreed
<fALSO> You can already see that this was designed by html/js people
<KotCzarny> irs is there for 30-40 years
<KotCzarny> *irc
<Ke> but I am not sure it is prohibitively bad still
<fALSO> that dont know anything else
<fALSO> so, lets use http for everything LOL
<fALSO> sorry for the offtopic trolling, im gonna stop now =)
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<diego71> Ke: irc support file sharing :)
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<montjoie> DCC to the rescue
<montjoie> DCC to the rescue
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<jo0nas> plaes: interesting!
<jo0nas> TIL about Discoverable Partitions Specification
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<plaes> yeah.. this uuid-based thing is fun.. until you need to boot from sd-card :P
<plaes> ..and sd-card contains the same uuid layout
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<vagrantc> not very "unique" for a unique iniversal id
<jo0nas> well, it uniquely identifies the partition _type_
<jo0nas> ext4 generates a UUID for the _content_
<jo0nas> ...but yes, I found it odd too
<vagrantc> oops, i guess it's "universally unique identifier" same premise, typos aside, applies.
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<pepee> hi. regarding the XR819 wifi chip: other than it being slow, has anyone had any problems using it as AP?
<pepee> I did some tests some days ago, and it seems to work fine in the last raspbian
<pepee> sadly, it doesn't support monitor mode... IIRC
<karlp> I think most people decided tghe driver state made it unviable for any further use.
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<pepee> ah, yeah, it's practically unsupported. sad.
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<avernos> can the debian installer install onto NAND on cubieboard?
<avernos> doesnt show any nand partition on autodetect
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