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<ldb> good morning
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<beach> Good morning everyone!
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<sp-r5rs> Laying back in the cut, yo.
<sp-r5rs> PreScheme 4eva.
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<beach> Bye.
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<ldb> just find that irc channel name is case insensitiive
<jackdaniel> no no, it just upcases by default :)
* ldb laugh
<contrapunctus> lel
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<sp-r5rs> I used to have a sense of humor, but then they changed what humor was.
<sp-r5rs> Now I make 30 year old unfunny cultural references, including PreScheme.
sp-r5rs was banned on #lisp by phoe [*!*uid350002@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bjqnveavasbozwja]
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<phoe> please tell me if I've made a mistake, I'll reverse it.
* ldb what's that? weeb?
<jackdaniel> imo you have not made a mistake. you could give them a warning first though.
<phoe> jackdaniel: point taken, thanks.
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<remexre> where do I put an ftype in an flet/labels? is a declare inside the function body sufficient?
<jackdaniel> yes, declarations are processed by the compiler /before/ the function is compiled
<remexre> okay, thanks
<jackdaniel> so i.e if you declare a function to have a dynamic-extent, then that information /may/ be used by the compiler i.e to inline it
<jackdaniel> s/inline/allocate on the stack/, I suppose inlining has nothing to do here
<jackdaniel> well, maybe something, either way nevermind that
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<VincentVega> hi all! Is there last/first for sequences? Provided by some utility library maybe?
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<Josh_2> you can make that with subseq
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<VincentVega> Josh_2: Alright
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<Bike> note that subseq conses, and it pretty much has to for sequences not built on lists
<VincentVega> Bike: Actually I just want these for an array. So I suppose gonna go with (aref a (length a)) then.
<Bike> last doesn't return the last element, it returns the cons it's in
<Bike> if you just want the element then generically you can do (elt seq (1- (length seq)))
<VincentVega> Bike: yeah, just the element
<Bike> (elt seq (length seq)) will be out of bounds
<VincentVega> Bike: cool, I will use that, thanks!
<VincentVega> Bike: yet, true
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<aeth> IMO... You almost never want subseq except at the last stage of an operation (e.g. when you want to turn an adjustable string you just built up with vector-push-extend into a regular simple-string of a fixed length)
<aeth> Almost everything for vectors/sequences should have start/end which should be used for vectors (including strings) until that point. If the API doesn't, patch it to!
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<dra> Hello!
<phoe> heyyyy
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<Alfr_> Hm ... we do have logcount but no find first set? Am I missing something?
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<Bike> Alfr_: integer-length
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<Alfr_> Oh, forgot about that.
<Alfr_> Thanks Bike. :)
<Alfr_> Its name doesn't start with log though.
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<_death> it is an evolution from the HAULONG operator
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<_death> also, as far as I can tell, LOGCOUNT is a Common Lisp innovation (and its initial name was likely COUNT-BITS).. the pitmanual only shows 4 logxxx operators
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