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<raeda> Hello, I'm new here
<raeda> Hello, I'm new here
<raeda> I'm interested in contributing to ABCL
<raeda> I'm interested in contributing to ABCL
<beach> Good morning everyone!
<beach> Good morning everyone!
<beach> raeda: I think easye is the person to talk to then.
<beach> raeda: I think easye is the person to talk to then.
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<raeda> Good morning! Do you know the best way to contact easye? The ABCL channel?
<raeda> Good morning! Do you know the best way to contact easye? The ABCL channel?
<beach> Here I think is fine.
<beach> Here I think is fine.
<beach> I don't know what timezone easye is in though. Maybe ask minion for a memo.
<beach> I don't know what timezone easye is in though. Maybe ask minion for a memo.
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<raeda> minion: memo for easye: I'd like to contribute to the ABCL compiler with bytecode generation and invokedynamic
<raeda> minion: memo for easye: I'd like to contribute to the ABCL compiler with bytecode generation and invokedynamic
<minion> Remembered. I'll tell easye when he/she/it next speaks.
<minion> Remembered. I'll tell easye when he/she/it next speaks.
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* fiddlerwoaroof was going to mention #abcl to raeda
* fiddlerwoaroof was going to mention #abcl to raeda
<fiddlerwoaroof> minion: memo for raeda: there's also #abcl which isn't very active, but is more dedicated to developing ABCL
<fiddlerwoaroof> minion: memo for raeda: there's also #abcl which isn't very active, but is more dedicated to developing ABCL
<minion> Remembered. I'll tell raeda when he/she/it next speaks.
<minion> Remembered. I'll tell raeda when he/she/it next speaks.
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<theothornhill> What is the best way to open a file relative to 'package-root'? I want to (with-open-file (file "src/foo/bar.lisp") ...). Right now it evals from where sly is currently located.
<theothornhill> What is the best way to open a file relative to 'package-root'? I want to (with-open-file (file "src/foo/bar.lisp") ...). Right now it evals from where sly is currently located.
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<beach> theothornhill: asdf:system-relative-pathname
<beach> theothornhill: asdf:system-relative-pathname
<theothornhill> thanks!
<theothornhill> thanks!
<beach> Sure.
<beach> Sure.
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<theothornhill> Works perfectly :)
<theothornhill> Works perfectly :)
<beach> I know. :)
<beach> I know. :)
<mfiano> Keep in mind it won't work with a deployed binary application, since the path will refer to the loaded path before deployment.
<mfiano> Keep in mind it won't work with a deployed binary application, since the path will refer to the loaded path before deployment.
<theothornhill> Oh okay! Not a problem right now, but thanks for the heads up :)
<theothornhill> Oh okay! Not a problem right now, but thanks for the heads up :)
<mfiano> You'll have to do it at runtime, using implementation internals, or a portability library, using POSIX argv0 or similar
<mfiano> You'll have to do it at runtime, using implementation internals, or a portability library, using POSIX argv0 or similar
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<lukego> any happy users of GENERIC-CL?
<lukego> any happy users of GENERIC-CL?
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<beach> lukego: What is it?
<beach> lukego: What is it?
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<lukego> beach: it's a wrapper around the COMMON-LISP package that converts everything into generic functions. https://github.com/alex-gutev/generic-cl
<lukego> beach: it's a wrapper around the COMMON-LISP package that converts everything into generic functions. https://github.com/alex-gutev/generic-cl
<beach> Oh, I see.
<beach> Oh, I see.
<beach> Sounds like most of SICL. :)
<beach> Sounds like most of SICL. :)
<lukego> better link perhaps at https://alex-gutev.github.io/generic-cl/
<lukego> better link perhaps at https://alex-gutev.github.io/generic-cl/
<lukego> I thought you would be a skeptic of this approach, preferring instead to define new more specific generic functions :)
<lukego> I thought you would be a skeptic of this approach, preferring instead to define new more specific generic functions :)
<beach> I haven't looked at it (yet).
<beach> I haven't looked at it (yet).
<beach> I am just saying that many of the standard functions are generic in SICL. In particular the slot accessors, such as symbol-name, symbol-package, package-name, ...
<beach> I am just saying that many of the standard functions are generic in SICL. In particular the slot accessors, such as symbol-name, symbol-package, package-name, ...
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<MrtnDk[m]> minion: memo for aartaka: It was peer. 'peer' was the one to reset your connection. MrtnDk[m] is simply testing the memo system.
<MrtnDk[m]> minion: memo for aartaka: It was peer. 'peer' was the one to reset your connection. MrtnDk[m] is simply testing the memo system.
<minion> Remembered. I'll tell aartaka when he/she/it next speaks.
<minion> Remembered. I'll tell aartaka when he/she/it next speaks.
<MrtnDk[m]> minion Thank you.
<MrtnDk[m]> minion Thank you.
<beach> minion: Thank you!
<beach> minion: Thank you!
<minion> you're welcome
<minion> you're welcome
<MrtnDk[m]> minion : Thank you.
<MrtnDk[m]> minion : Thank you.
<shynoob> what's the channel name of lisp in general?
<shynoob> what's the channel name of lisp in general?
<beach> ##lisp
<beach> ##lisp
<minion> np
<MrtnDk[m]> minion: Thank you.
<minion> np
<MrtnDk[m]> minion: Thank you.
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<Shinmera> lukego: What were you hoping to use it for?
<Shinmera> lukego: What were you hoping to use it for?
<Shinmera> lukego: Nothing I know of provides support for it, so it's rather worthless except for your own internal uses.
<Shinmera> lukego: Nothing I know of provides support for it, so it's rather worthless except for your own internal uses.
<Shinmera> And for sequences there's the extensible sequences protocol, and the trivial-extensible-sequences wrapper library that have at least some amount of use.
<Shinmera> And for sequences there's the extensible sequences protocol, and the trivial-extensible-sequences wrapper library that have at least some amount of use.
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<Josh_2> Bit of an odd question but has anyone written a sort of embeddable DSL that takes strings as inputs
<Josh_2> Bit of an odd question but has anyone written a sort of embeddable DSL that takes strings as inputs
<Josh_2> the use case I have is someone at the top level being able to write something like
<Josh_2> the use case I have is someone at the top level being able to write something like
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<Josh_2> #.<module> 'command1 'command <do x>'' something like that the semantics can change obviously
<Josh_2> #.<module> 'command1 'command <do x>'' something like that the semantics can change obviously
<Josh_2> command1 would take commands result as an arg
<Josh_2> command1 would take commands result as an arg
<Josh_2> I can imagine this is something someone has made, I'm not even sure how to approach a problem like this
<Josh_2> I can imagine this is something someone has made, I'm not even sure how to approach a problem like this
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<semz> You can do this with readtable hackery, especially if DSL parts always start with #. or w/e, but is there any reason you can't just base the DSL on (maybe slightly modified) Lisp syntax?
<semz> You can do this with readtable hackery, especially if DSL parts always start with #. or w/e, but is there any reason you can't just base the DSL on (maybe slightly modified) Lisp syntax?
<semz> You have the tools for this after all and I'd expect it to be nicer in the long term
<semz> You have the tools for this after all and I'd expect it to be nicer in the long term
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<Josh_2> No there is no reason
<Josh_2> No there is no reason
<Josh_2> other than general user appeal
<Josh_2> other than general user appeal
<Josh_2> I love Lisp and see the power of parens but unfortunately many folks are immediately put off :(
<Josh_2> I love Lisp and see the power of parens but unfortunately many folks are immediately put off :(
<Josh_2> I think making basic commands like this #.program (def prinarg (arg1) (return arg1)) so you could then do #.program (prinarg foo) -> foo wouldn't be so hard
<Josh_2> I think making basic commands like this #.program (def prinarg (arg1) (return arg1)) so you could then do #.program (prinarg foo) -> foo wouldn't be so hard
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<Josh_2> I'd have to provide a bunch of built in functions for list and string manipulation
<Josh_2> I'd have to provide a bunch of built in functions for list and string manipulation
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<Xach> marcoxa: i still can't build helambdap
<Xach> marcoxa: i still can't build helambdap
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<shka_> hi all
<shka_> hi all
<shka_> can someone bother to run test suite of the scribble for me?
<shka_> can someone bother to run test suite of the scribble for me?
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<alanz> is cl scribble like the racket scribble?
<alanz> is cl scribble like the racket scribble?
<shka_> yes
<shka_> yes
<shka_> alanz: thanks
<shka_> alanz: thanks
<shka_> i was trying to figure out if it is faling just for me
<shka_> i was trying to figure out if it is faling just for me
* alanz answer my own question: yes, see https://cliki.net/Scribble
* alanz answer my own question: yes, see https://cliki.net/Scribble
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<jmercouris> hi is anyone able to quickload parenscript in ECL?
<jmercouris> hi is anyone able to quickload parenscript in ECL?
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<jmercouris> here is what happens for me: http://dpaste.com/GV7Y6K4HX
<jmercouris> here is what happens for me: http://dpaste.com/GV7Y6K4HX
<alanz> shka_, no problem
<alanz> shka_, no problem
<shka_> issue created
<shka_> issue created
<alanz> FYI my gist is on sbcl
<alanz> FYI my gist is on sbcl
<shka_> yeah, i assumed that
<shka_> yeah, i assumed that
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<jmercouris> nobody?
<jmercouris> nobody?
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<alanz> jmercouris, it loads for me in sbcl, but that's not the question
<alanz> jmercouris, it loads for me in sbcl, but that's not the question
<jmercouris> that's correct, it loads for me in SBCL as well :-)
<jmercouris> that's correct, it loads for me in SBCL as well :-)
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<shka_> alanz: it seems to be because of that buffered input stuff
<shka_> alanz: it seems to be because of that buffered input stuff
<alanz> shka_, no idea, I just ran the test for you. And was happy to see that scribble exists. I am still learning the ecosystem
<alanz> shka_, no idea, I just ran the test for you. And was happy to see that scribble exists. I am still learning the ecosystem
<shka_> well, i just managed to 'fix' it by removing the buffering
<shka_> well, i just managed to 'fix' it by removing the buffering
<shka_> i will add this to the issue i've just created
<shka_> i will add this to the issue i've just created
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<shka_> at least i can generate my documentation now
<shka_> at least i can generate my documentation now
<alanz> nice
<alanz> nice
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<gabc> Hi I'm trying to load cl-sqlite on windows with sbcl and I have an error telling me that it can't find the sqlite libraries. I do now know where the libraries are looked for to put it there, any ideas?
<gabc> Hi I'm trying to load cl-sqlite on windows with sbcl and I have an error telling me that it can't find the sqlite libraries. I do now know where the libraries are looked for to put it there, any ideas?
<shka_> well, windows...
<shka_> well, windows...
<gabc> Yeah well, I know but that's what I have
<gabc> Yeah well, I know but that's what I have
<shka_> right
<shka_> right
<gabc> oooh nice
<gabc> oooh nice
<shka_> check if that helps you with that dll
<shka_> check if that helps you with that dll
<gabc> I'll check it out thanks :)
<gabc> I'll check it out thanks :)
<shka_> have fun
<shka_> have fun
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<gabc> shka_: that works! thanks :)
<gabc> shka_: that works! thanks :)
<shka_> hth
<shka_> hth
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<shka_> well, i found the core problem with the scribble
<shka_> well, i found the core problem with the scribble
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<shka_> and this seems to be a bug in SBCL
<shka_> and this seems to be a bug in SBCL
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<shka_> yup, it is
<shka_> yup, it is
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<shka_> alanz: you there?
<shka_> alanz: you there?
<alanz> shka_, yes
<alanz> shka_, yes
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<MrtnDk[m]> _death I can't seem to quick load logo2. Which version of slime is required?
<MrtnDk[m]> _death I can't seem to quick load logo2. Which version of slime is required?
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<MrtnDk[m]> How do I get (ql:quickload "snippets/logo2") to work in slime?
<MrtnDk[m]> How do I get (ql:quickload "snippets/logo2") to work in slime?
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<Xach> What is logo2?
<Xach> What is logo2?
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