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<fiddlerwoaroof> kagevf: it would be sort of funny to build a workflow around parenscript and babel to avoid having to write Javascript directly
<fiddlerwoaroof> parenscript to generate the JS, babel for round-tripping it back to parenscript and, maybe, for cleaning up identifiers
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<kagevf> yeah, I'm not following at all how / why you would use parenscript on the server other than to generate JS as part of the output of a page so it can be used / run on the frontend
<fiddlerwoaroof> You could always use node to run the generated javascript
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<fiddlerwoaroof> But, I think "normally" you'd either compile to js files and serve them statically, or you'd compile to JS and serve it up with something like hunchentoot
<kagevf> right ... that's what I've been doing ... the latter 2
<kagevf> well, actually just the latter 1 ... serving from hunchentoot
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<Josh_2> Currently I am representing lisp objects as javascript in my JS source code so that they can be referenced by other bits of JS code, no runtime overhead doing object lookups in js etc. Thanks jasom
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<beach> Good morning everyone!
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<shka_> hello!
<shka_> i am getting the following warning from the quicklisp
<shka_> contains definition for system "cl-ppcre-test". Please only define "cl-ppcre" and secondary systems with a name starting with "cl-ppcre/" (e.g. "cl-ppcre/test") in that file
<shka_> can I please have an example of the properly defined tests subsystem?
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<kagevf> I get that warning too when I asdf:load-system something that uses that library
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<splittist> That's an asdf warning. At some point it became fussy about, as it says, defsystems in the same file. So you would define (defsystem #:trivial-example (...)) and (defsystem #:trivial-example/tests (...)) But perhaps you meant something else.
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<shka_> splittist: i think that i meant this
<shka_> i thought that this is quicklisp thing, not the asdf
<shka_> but ok, thanks for the explanation!
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<sito> ciao
<sito> !list
<beach> Hello sito.
<beach> sito: Are you new here? I don't recognize your nick.
<shka_> sito: hi!
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<shka_> hello
<shka_> any trick you people recommend for testing that a method was called?
<shka_> i think that i would SIGNAL something
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<Shinmera> ? in what context
<Shinmera> debugging?
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<shka_> Shinmera: unit tests
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<raeda> As in code coverage? The cookbook might have what you're looking for https://lispcookbook.github.io/cl-cookbook/testing.html#code-coverage
<CL-ASHOK> anybody have an example of "defprepared" in postmodern?
<CL-ASHOK> hard to follow the documentaiton
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<phoe> shka_: a method? sounds like a job for a toplevel :AROUND, as long as your code does not use that internally
<kagevf> CL-ASHOK did you try looking at this? https://marijnhaverbeke.nl/postmodern/postmodern.html
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<kagevf> it looks like the way to parameterize queries is to have $1 $2 etc in the sql ...
<CL-ASHOK> kagevf I did, but it's hard to follow "This is the macro-style variant of prepare. It is like prepare, but gives the function a name which now becomes a top-level function for the prepared statement. The name should not a string but may be quoted."
<CL-ASHOK> Does something like this: (doquery (:select 'x 'y :from 'some-imaginary-table) (x y)
<CL-ASHOK>   (format t "On this row, x = ~A and y = ~A.~%" x y))
<kagevf> CL-ASHOK: there are a few examples using the argument placeholders like $1 ... maybe enough to figure out how to apply to your code ...
<CL-ASHOK> quote the parameters so that it avoids sql injection?
<kagevf> CL-ASHOK: that doquery in your example you just wrote doesn't have any parameters, so no danger of sql injection there
<kagevf> can you paste the example from your code that uses parameters?
<kagevf> also, in that document try searching for "$1" to see all the examples where it uses argument placeholders to get more ideas
<CL-ASHOK> (defun insert-record (title body)
<CL-ASHOK>   (query (format nil "INSERT INTO myBlogTable VALUES ('~A', '~A');" title body)))
<CL-ASHOK> thanks, I will search for $1 in the doc now
<kagevf> ok cool ...
<kagevf> what if you did something like ...
<kagevf> (query "INSERT INTO myBlogTable VALUES ($1, $2);" title body)
<CL-ASHOK> will that prevent sql injection for title and body?
<kagevf> yes
<CL-ASHOK> wow - such an easy fix - thank you!
<kagevf> that's how you parameterize a sql query
<kagevf> anyway .... try and test it first before thanking me ... I've never used postmodern, but that's how it works with other sql libs
<kagevf> to test it, you can try injecting commands to make sure like making body be set to "'some text'); select 'test' --" (maybe get a better example online, but that's the basic idea)
<CL-ASHOK> Thanks
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<kagevf> liked your article btw, keep up the good work CL-ASHOK :)
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<CL-ASHOK> Thanks @kagevf :)
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<shka_> phoe: well, it's ok, i can mock
<shka_> so that's fine
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<CL-ASHOK> @kagevf - working now:)  Ended up with this: (postmodern:query "SELECT * from function_table where fid = $1;" fid)
<CL-ASHOK> without parametrisation, I was able to successfully inject SQL
<CL-ASHOK> now it throughs an error
<CL-ASHOK> throws*
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<splittist> signals a condition
<lotuseater> has anyone good experiences with LTK for writing a gui application?
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<edgar-rft> lotuseater: depends on how complex the GUI is, for simple GUIs upto to semi-complex it's pretty easy to use
<edgar-rft> The main performanc bottleneck is the stream between CL and Tk, if you need to transfer lots of data back and forth between CL and TK the GUI becomes rather sluggish, but I think that's the case with *all* GUIs
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<lotuseater> edgar-rft: a friend of mine asked me to write him a simple gui with some data handling for his work that should run on windows
<lotuseater> but I'm not much experienced with gui stuff, just McCLIM yet a bit
<lotuseater> i tried the examples, but got a message "couldn't find wish file"
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<kagevf> @CL-ASHOK - nice!!
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<jcowan> IMO "?" is neither necessary nor sufficient in a reasonable programming language
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<Lycurgus> is the notion of controlled natural language as a programming language also inacceptable?
<jcowan> Functions that correctly convert a native string to a properly quoted and escaped SQL string prevent SQL injection attacks, and with (concatenate "SELECT" (column-names c1 c2 c3) "FROM" (table-names t1 t2)) you can execute a dynamic query safely.
<jcowan> so column-names and table-names quote names correctly (double quotes), add commas between arguments, etc.
<Lycurgus> you know in these times it's generally all dynamic queries. I doubt the random programmer even knows the distinction between static and dynamic sql
<jcowan> By dynamic I mean you can dynamically choose the tables to query and the results to return.
<jcowan> hyper-dynamic if you will.
<Lycurgus> by dynamic i mean the access plan is compiled at run time
<Lycurgus> yeah I call that a query facility or whatever, not even programming as such
<Lycurgus> a user (possibly a technical one) interface to a relational store
<Lycurgus> by the time a user is there, using one they are trusted
<Lycurgus> not as much as at a general db controlling interface, but a trusted user anyway
<Lycurgus> rather than somebody attempting sql injection over a web interfaces
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