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<kek> parazyd closed a pull request: https://github.com/maemo-leste/image-builder/pull/9 (Unrotate bionic fbconsole, as this makes no sense on bionic and break…)
<kek> parazyd closed a pull request: https://github.com/maemo-leste/leste-config/pull/20 (only set the input devcie that we really need in driectfbrc)
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<diejuse1> @Wizzup. Good news. Managed to successfully launch Hildon Desktop with chroot on Android. Internet works for me too. He managed to perfectly use the application to read PDF documents.
<parazyd> oh that's great
<parazyd> How did you manage to do it?
<diejuse1> However there are things that do not work. For example the X terminal application does not open, neither do the settings.
<parazyd> You could try opening them manually too
<parazyd> osso-xterm, and hildon-control-panel
<kek> parazyd created a repository: https://github.com/maemo-leste-extras/qshot
<diejuse1> I have managed it thanks to https://gitlab.freedesktop.org/lima/mesa/-/issues/70
<Entitlement> diejuse1 - [ hildon-desktop doesn't render correctly (#70) · Issues · Lima / mesa · GitLab ]
<diejuse1> DISPLAY=:0 CLUTTER_BACKEND=x11 HD_NOTHREADS=yes CLUTTER_DRIVER=gles2 hildon-desktop.launch
<diejuse1> did the trick
<diejuse1> osso-xterm doesn't work either launching it manually
<diejuse1> But I have installed Xterm, Terminator terminals and working well
<parazyd> ok
<parazyd> I'm sorry I can't help more, but I don't have any kind of rooted Android to try this out
<buZz> what error does 'osso-xterm' give if you start it from a working xterm?
<parazyd> Maybe if you want, you can make a photo or two and I can share it on Twitter
<buZz> did you try 'DISPLAY=:0 CLUTTER_BACKEND=x11 HD_NOTHREADS=yes CLUTTER_DRIVER=gles2 osso-xterm' aswell? :D
<diejuse1> yesterday I got working Chromium but now is not working. Yesterday works but I couldn't type on search bar
<diejuse1> Yes buZz. I tried that too. I try many things :-D
<diejuse1> there is not error
<buZz> so what error does it give
<buZz> when started in a terminal there's no error?
<diejuse1> no error
<diejuse1> that is
<parazyd> There is also osso-xterm.launch, but not sure if that'll change anything
<diejuse1> i am going
<parazyd> buZz: GPS now works on the N900 btw.
<buZz> sweet :)
<parazyd> :D
<diejuse1> works!
<diejuse1> hahaha
<parazyd> Finished it at 4AM
<parazyd> lol
<parazyd> diejuse1: Nice!
<diejuse1> osso-xterm.launch works
<parazyd> ok
<parazyd> Good to know
<diejuse1> How can I view an app in desktop when I install it?
<diejuse1> No icon
<parazyd> Do you have the Debian icon there?
<diejuse1> I want chromium, firefox icon
<diejuse1> No, Debias is not here
<parazyd> ah ok
<parazyd> That chroot tarball is _really_ old
<parazyd> So you'll want to `apt dist-upgrade`
<parazyd> But make a backup before you do it
<diejuse1> apt dist-upgrade is not upgrading nothing
<diejuse1> Must I change repos>?
<parazyd> first: apt update
<parazyd> then: apt dist-upgrade
<diejuse1> yes, but not upgrading
<diejuse1> I always do first apt update
<parazyd> ah ok
<parazyd> Yeah maybe the repos should be changed
<parazyd> That changed at some point too
<parazyd> Try editing /etc/apt/sources.list and have this instead of the existing maedevu link:
<diejuse1> I have "ascii"
<parazyd> deb http://maedevu.maemo.org/leste beowulf main contrib non-free
<Entitlement> parazyd - [ Directory Index - Maemo Leste ]
<parazyd> If the GPG key is expired, you can get it here:
<parazyd> curl https://maedevu.maemo.org/testing-key.asc | apt-key add -
<diejuse1> I had problems with the "key", I solved using " deb [trusted=true] ... "
<parazyd> You can add the new one with the command above
<diejuse1> It is dist-upgrading now. :)
<parazyd> good luck
<parazyd> :D
<diejuse1> It is wonderful using Maemo on Android phone, It is fast. I hope to be able to run the most things
<diejuse1> I feel like I am using N900 again hehe
<buZz> did you record a video yet? :D
<buZz> i wanna spam it over twitter
<diejuse1> I will record the video but when I can boast that almost everything works.
<parazyd> ^^
<diejuse1> I'm curious with a question: I set up IRC to talk about Maemo with you. But why do you use IRC and not a more modern application like Discord?
<parazyd> Nothing wrong with IRC
<parazyd> Most developers are on IRC and it works best for us.
<parazyd> If you need some kind of "modern" client, you can join using matrix or something like that.
<diejuse1> Good answer. The only thing that I have problems in that the past messages of the channel do not appear when I log in.
<buZz> diejuse1: irc will exist 40 years from now
<buZz> all msgs to #maemo-leste are logged in a txt file
<parazyd> See the channel topic for logs
<Entitlement> parazyd - [ #maemo-leste on 2021-05-04 — irc logs at whitequark.org ]
<diejuse1> I agree with you. IRC works fine and I like it.
<diejuse1> thanks for the link, parazyd
<parazyd> You're welcome
<diejuse1> updating now is stuck with "gconf2"
<parazyd> For how long?
<diejuse1> 5mins, I'll wait a bit to see if the update continues
<parazyd> hmm probably not
<Entitlement> parazyd - [ apt - 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' stuck at 'Setting up gconf2 (3.2.6-0ubuntu2) ..... ]
<diejuse1> I stopped it but I get "could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (126: Required key not available)"
<diejuse1> when I try "sudo apt update"
<parazyd> Try `apt -f install` now
<buZz> parazyd: is bottom right a bionic?
<parazyd> Yes
<buZz> never realized screen was bigger
<buZz> oh, no keyboard
<buZz> nevermind :P
<parazyd> Yeah a few mm
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<kek> parazyd opened an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/527 (gps-nokia-n900: Investigate buffer overflow)
<kek> parazyd labeled an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/527 (gps-nokia-n900: Investigate buffer overflow)
<kek> parazyd labeled an issue: https://github.com/maemo-leste/bugtracker/issues/527 (gps-nokia-n900: Investigate buffer overflow)
<sicelo> I don't have a use for Leste on android, but please consider a simple Wiki write up diejuse1
<sicelo> parazyd: I don't think you need rooted phone :-)
<parazyd> You do
<sicelo> Oh
<Wizzup> ascii repos are really old - do we not have newer generic tarballs?
<parazyd> Nope
<parazyd> Basically the Paspberry Oi images can be used for a generic approach.
<parazyd> s,Oi,Pi,
<Wizzup> we might want to indicate that somehow
<buZz> well, maybe wiser to make newer generic tarballs then aswell?
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<parazyd> The generic tarball is a raspberry pi image
<parazyd> The problem is that tarballs never could boot when extracted on an sdcard, for reasons unknown.
<parazyd> I rewrote the build system to use cpio archives instead
<parazyd> But in this case it's just redundant to archive and publish both
<uvos> he also needs to get maemo launcher going, when he upgrades from acsii most of the .launch binarys wills stop working
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<mighty17> tmlind: hello, im trying to add sdcard support and my device uses vmmc2 as regulator (https://github.com/Unlegacy-Android/android_kernel_ti_omap4/blob/3.4/common/arch/arm/mach-omap2/board-espresso-pmic.c#L526) does mainline have support for that?
<Entitlement> mighty17 - [ android_kernel_ti_omap4/board-espresso-pmic.c at 3.4/common · Unlegacy-Android/a... ]
<mighty17> that is for vmmc2 (probably in twl6030)
<Wizzup> yeah, upgrading from ascii doesn't seem like a fruitful path to me
<freemangordon> is there an issue with running maemo-launcher?
<buZz> freemangordon: from a chroot on android ;)
<freemangordon> yes, why not?
<Wizzup> I don't think there necessarily is one, diejuse just needs to start it
<Wizzup> openrc should be able to run in chroots, too
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<Entitlement> uvos - [ fbkeyboard/fbkeyboard.init at b2ec80e465150dad413c21c852876ab2be8b6e2e · maemo-l... ]
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<Wizzup> missing quote?
<uvos> yeah he accidentaly introduced that
<uvos> since i forgot to change the name :P
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<parazyd> uvos: Fixed, ty
<parazyd> bbl, going to go catch some sun
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<diejuse1> Hello all people. I am having many problems after "upgrade" from ascii. I am trying to solve them.
<diejuse1> hildon-desktop.launch is missing now
<diejuse1> maemo-launcher doesn't work
<uvos> please be more specific
<uvos> yeah .launch will not work anymore
<uvos> they should still be there tho
<diejuse1> it has dissparead
<uvos> you upgrade must have remove packages
<diejuse1> dissapeard
<diejuse1> yes
<uvos> hildon-desktop: /usr/bin/hildon-desktop.launch
<uvos> that package contains it if its gohne you need to install it again
<diejuse1> any idea to launch now? if not, I will downgrade.
<uvos> by installing hildon-meta
<uvos> you must use maemo-launcher/maemo-invoker
<uvos> look at the init script
<uvos> in /etc/init.d
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<diejuse1> apt-install hildon-meta?
<diejuse1> "unable to locate package"
<tmlind> mighty17: yeah drivers/regulator/twl-regulator.c provides vmmc2
<mighty17> so use `ti,twl4030-vmmc2` for compatible right? also is that the correct way (ie doing how the board file shows it)
<tmlind> mighty17: no in your board dts, just use &vmmc2, grep for some examples
<mighty17> n900 has vmmc2
<uvos> hi tmlind
<uvos> did you ever try the usb initiated boot with sysfs masked in kconfig as you suggested, i havent found the time.
<tmlind> mighty: oh but i think vmmc2 is only on twl4030, your link shows your mmc2 is a gpio-regulator
<mighty17> @tmlind omap4 doesnt seem to have it
<tmlind> mighty17: grep for regulator-gpio
<mighty17> oh so i need to define vmmc2 in my dts
<Wizzup> diejuse1: I would recommend trying to not upgrade from ascii, and just start with beowulf
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<Entitlement> mighty17 - [ Ubuntu Pastebin ]
<tmlind> mighty17: hmm maybe compatible = "regulator-fixed" with the gpio pin configured is the way to go nowadays
<diejuse1> Wizzup. In ascii, I didn't show debian apps like Chromium into desktop. Can I show them?
<tmlind> mighty17: but yeah something like that should work
<diejuse1> How can
<Wizzup> diejuse1: yes, all of this is taken care off in beowulf
<Wizzup> do you need armhf or aarch64?
<mighty17> ohk so i already have it like u said with "regulator-fixed"
<mighty17> anyway i can know if its working
<mighty17> ?*
<diejuse1> arm64
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<Wizzup> diejuse1: ok, so can you not use the raspi image as parazyd suggested, or is the problem that you need a tar?
<tmlind> mighty17: you also have to configure your emmc instance to use that regulator
<mighty17> how do i do that?
<diejuse1> I am using arm64-generic image
<diejuse1> raspi3
<uvos> diejuse1: please use this if possible: https://maedevu.maemo.org/images/raspi4/20210502/
<Entitlement> uvos - [ Directory Index - Maemo Leste ]
<uvos> if your android kernel has loop
<uvos> you should be able to just mount the image and chroot to it
<uvos> then you start the init scripts in /etc/runlevels/default
<uvos> should work in therory
<uvos> maybe grep for export DISPLAY
<uvos> becuse some the scripts assume :0
<tmlind> mighty17: if emmc is mmc2, add &mmc2 entry to your board dts, then configure vmmc-supply = <&your_fixed_regulator_name>; grep for similar examples
<mighty17> yes i already did that (its for sdcard not emmc xD)
<diejuse1> uvos, I will try with that image
<Entitlement> mighty17 - [ Ubuntu Pastebin ]
<mighty17> still it doesnt show up in lsblk and nothing in dmesg
<diejuse1> uvos, is that image in .tar? it is easier to manage with android
<uvos> no thats why i said to loop mount it
<Wizzup> diejuse1: sorry, meeting atm, back in a bit
<mighty17> https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/JGw2MxQT5X/ well here's my dmesg the regulator does work but nothing about mmc (ie sdcard)
<Entitlement> mighty17 - [ Ubuntu Pastebin ]
<uvos> mighty17: your sure you have the right mmc controller right?
<uvos> also a sdcard dosent have a bus-wdith of 8
<Entitlement> mighty17 - [ android_kernel_ti_omap4/board-espresso-sdio.c at 3.4/common · Unlegacy-Android/a... ]
<mighty17> mighty17: your sure you have the right mmc controller right? umm do i need to enable some config for that?
<uvos> no you need to know how the device is physicaly wired
<uvos> looks like .mmc =2 is the sdcard
<uvos> MMC_CAP_UHS_DDR50 is 4bit data at 50mhz
<uvos> thats a sdcard
<uvos> and bus-width must be 4
<uvos> for your dts
<uvos> on the sdcard mmc controller
<uvos> 8bit is emmc
<mighty17> no mmc2 is non removable and thus emmc/internal memory
<mighty17> and mmc1 is sdcard
<mighty17> <uvos "and bus-width must be 4"> it says `.caps= MMC_CAP_8_BIT_DATA,` so im confused
<uvos> well i have no idea how espresso_mmc_info is applyed in the vendor kernelk
<uvos> but the .mmc= 2, entry is the sdcard
<uvos> and its capabilitys are MMC_CAP_8_BIT_DATA and MMC_CAP_UHS_DDR50
<mighty17> how did u conclude that
<mighty17> ok what do u mean by sdcard
<mighty17> the micro sd right? small things that u put in a device
<uvos> because if MMC_CAP_8_BIT_DATA dose what is says
<uvos> it cant be connected to a sdcard
<uvos> because a sdcard just fundamentaly only has 4 pins
<uvos> and mmc =2 has MMC_CAP_UHS_DDR50 as a capability
<mighty17> yeah so i will put 4 in bus width
<uvos> and thats 4bits at 50mhz
<uvos> whitch is a valid sdcard spec
<mighty17> but mmc =2 is internal storage
<mighty17> and it is `.nonremovable = true,` thus confirming it to be internal storage
<uvos> true
<uvos> and idk how the vendor kernel processes that sruct
<mighty17> so it has to be mmc=1 for sdcard
<uvos> but that dosent jibe with 8bit data
<uvos> maybe it just means it can be 8bits idk
<mighty17> maybe they wrote it wrong
<mighty17> its downstream after all
<uvos> anyhow in your mainline dts sdcard has 4bit bus width
<uvos> try that
<uvos> and see if its detected
<mighty17> Sure will do that
<diejuse1> uvos, I need the tar file. Mount and unmount a file image has less performance and worse integration with Android
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<mighty17> uvos https://pastebin.ubuntu.com/p/m7hKH2r5H4/ log with 4bit bus width, nothing again
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<parazyd> diejuse1: Try mounting the image on your computer and copy it to your phone. There are two partitions in the image, and you should be interested in the second one.
<uvos> diejuse1: use kpartx to split the file into partitons you can mount seperatly
<parazyd> (or partx)
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<sicelo> parazyd: weird about the buffer overflow. Didn't happen for me when I played with GPS some months ago
<Entitlement> parazyd - [ gps-nokia-n900: Investigate buffer overflow · Issue #527 · maemo-leste/bugtracke... ]
<parazyd> Note that I also rewrote the Makefile to take dpkg's compiler flags.
<parazyd> So this was probably just never discovered?
<sicelo> I was just compiling the c file. Didn't use the packaging
<sicelo> Anyway, I would have loved to try this out, but the n900 with working modem is the one with broken USB :-p
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<parazyd> heh
<parazyd> Charge a battery in another one and replace? :p
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<parazyd> I mean, I compiled it in our repos without hardening, so GPS works.
<parazyd> So this is probably not a real priority to fix.
<parazyd> Though if someone wants to take the time, they'd be more than welcome to :)
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<Wizzup> parazyd: I think we will see random runtime failures if we don't fix it
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<Wizzup> sorry, crazy day atm
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<parazyd> Wizzup: Perhaps. It happens on a specific line in the cod, which is only called once, upon setup of the program, AFAICT. It overflows _every_ time and aborts if compiled with hardedning.
<parazyd> Without hardening it passes, and I haven't noticed issues so far.
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<parazyd> There are also other compiler warnings which might be good to fix/avoid.
<uvos> it overflows every time?
<uvos> um thats not ok
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<uvos> so this application translates some random nokia specific format into nema or what dose it do?
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<parazyd> Yeah
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<uvos> you know what would be cool
<uvos> if the location status widged showed if there where any gpsd clients active
<uvos> isntead of liblocation applications
<uvos> that way navit and sutch would trigger it
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<parazyd> I'm not sure libgps offers such functionality.
<uvos> it could check if the gps backend is open :P
<uvos> idk either
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<parazyd> Something to keep in mind :)
<uvos> yeah
<uvos> im kinda shocked that there seams to be no way of asking gpsd
<uvos> but i gues you could listen for gpsd on dbus
<uvos> and if its sending stuff its active
<parazyd> It's not ideal really
<uvos> no
<parazyd> I disabled the dbus export on gpsd
<uvos> ok
<parazyd> And location-daemon uses libgps
<uvos> yeah
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* enyc meows
* enyc recalls much fun with gpsd on rpi's and stuff
<enyc> the fun of serial converters all with generic id and stuff
<Entitlement> parazyd - [ jpeg (2048 x 1536) ]
<Wizzup> :D
<uvos> theres a pinephone missing in that pic :P
<uvos> for a "full" family portrait
<parazyd> uvos: Mine broke :(
<uvos> oh no :(
<parazyd> Waiting for that hw keyboard before I order a new one
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<uvos> thats pretty bad for our pinephone support
<uvos> dose anyone still rune a pp regularly?
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* parazyd doesn't
<parazyd> Wizzup has both a pinephone and pinetab at home
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<uvos> why could you not break a bionic or something, they are cheap as chips :P
<parazyd> Yeah, it was on a lab psu and something bad happened
* parazyd hides
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<parazyd> It just stopped drawing current overnight
<parazyd> (PSU is confirmed ok)
<uvos> did you have a power outage
<uvos> some psus ahve some overshoot when turing back on
<parazyd> Not that I remember
<uvos> maybe check its behavior if you have a scope
<parazyd> But yeah I'm suspecting the phone is just frie
<parazyd> d
<parazyd> I don't unfortunately, but I could find one
<parazyd> To borrow
<uvos> might be worth it, if you want to have some peace of mind if you plan to power the d4 or whatever with it
<parazyd> *nod*
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<sicelo> Mmm, my droid4 suddenly won't get past kexecboot after last update (over the weekend?)
<sicelo> Oh, booted now, after 6 boot loops or so
<sicelo> Guess its the USB shenanigans?
<uvos> kexec can also randomly just fail
<uvos> its a bug in the motorola kernel
<uvos> i dont think anyone knows why exactly
<uvos> booting with usb plugged in also has known problems on the mainline side
<sicelo> Okay. At least if it's known issue. I think I can live with it
<parazyd> fwiw a cable without data pins is useful to charge/boot.
<sicelo> I will fix my Nokia charger soon (has shorted data pins. Seems equally effective)
<parazyd> Yeah should be the same result.
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<uvos> we could also disable the kernel console on serial for d4
<uvos> except some special kexeboot entry for debuging
<uvos> that should fix all issues, according to my current understanding of the problem
<uvos> (with also the interupt throtteling patch from tmlind)
<parazyd> Can we do it also only for emergency mode?
<Wizzup> uvos: does the location status applet work for you?
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<Wizzup> like, if you press the button in the status context menu?
<sicelo> parazyd: Installing maep has error with /opt/maep/diskcache_check.sh ... guess it should actually be removed
<uvos> Wizzup: yes if currently nothing is using gps
<Wizzup> ok, for me it just hard segfaults
<uvos> Wizzup: no it crashes the status menu if something IS using gps
<Wizzup> sounds like there are a few things to be debugged
<uvos> not sure what its supposed to do when gps is active
<parazyd> sicelo: I didn't do much for maep besides a few quick hacks to get it to compile.
<uvos> when its not it shows the settings dialog
<parazyd> uvos: It should always open the cp applet.
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<sicelo> Mmm, no status menu icon for location showing up on mine so far. Maep open, and, I hope, searching
<uvos> afaik its not installed by default
<uvos> i had to compile it even
<uvos> wasent in repos
<sicelo> Btw ctrl bksp not working now. What was the fix?
<uvos> uh
<uvos> oh no
<uvos> i forgot to push this to leste config
<uvos> sorry sicelo sec
<uvos> sicelo: your talking about n900 right?
<sicelo> Droid4
<uvos> oh
<uvos> nvm then
<uvos> its gohne
<uvos> replaced by the home key
<sicelo> I want to restore it. What file do I adjust
<uvos> /usr/share/hildon-desktop/shortcuts.ini
<uvos> the left button action
<uvos> note this breaks the home key
<uvos> cant have both atm
<sicelo> I don't need home key, thanks
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<uvos> not sure why you would prefer the akward key combination over a dedicated key
<uvos> but ok
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<kek> IMbackK opened a pull request: https://github.com/maemo-leste/leste-config/pull/21 (resore ctrl-backspace on n900)
<uvos> i did forget to push that ^^^
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<Wizzup> parazyd: the location applet on fremantle would say 'coarse accuracy' or 'fine accuracy' I think in the status menu
<Wizzup> ours doesn't say anything currently
<Wizzup> I don't know what the accuracy was based on
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