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<Joerg-Neo900> dos1: are you around?
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<Oksana> All these discussions about website... Just visited it, logged in, looked at my order and voucher history...
<Joerg-Neo900> everything fine? at least working?
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<Joerg-Neo900> short chat protocol of another tiny channel: http://paste.ubuntu.com/25082461
<Joerg-Neo900> about OS on Neo900
<Joerg-Neo900> re stresstest etc: we won't do much stress testing, we just write little bash jobs that test the functionality of the new sensors and actors (mostly LEDs)
<Joerg-Neo900> and yes, any help with that is highly appreciated
<Joerg-Neo900> go to
<Joerg-Neo900> ~bd
<infobot> extra, extra, read all about it, bd is http://neo900.org/stuff/block-diagrams/neo900/neo900.html the very fine and detailled Block Diagram, or http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1445200#post1445200
<Joerg-Neo900> get the datasheets of something you're interested in, find out about existing drivers in upstream linux for it (or simply talk to it via I2C, pretty much everything is I2C in Neo900), then consider and write fancy little testing scripts or even apps using that sensor or actor
<Joerg-Neo900> an example how to do that, from old times: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3pvdFpA1II
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<Joerg-Neo900> a less spectacular though much more useful example: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=658278#post658278
<Joerg-Neo900> we won't need that on Neo900 anymore, since we got autonomous charging. Though you still _can_ do similar stuff if you want to, it's just not _needed_ anymore
<Joerg-Neo900> this and similar stuff is exactly what we need proto_v2 for to test all subsystems
<Joerg-Neo900> OS devels however may already want to start integrating that stuff into the OS, using proto_v2 as development&testing platform
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<Joerg-Neo900> the one thing we will test more thoroughly (sort of "strsstest") is our modem sandboxing and monitoring solution, we will run some software against the complete hardware sensors and actors involved there, to demonstrate how it works
<Joerg-Neo900> I'm unclear how accurate and useful the magnetic compass will be, since we have steel components from N900 that were not designed to minimize interference with magnetic fields. Though many other devices seem to also have steel parts and a magnetic compas and I think usually you can calibrate out eny adverse effects, we will have to check that and there's no guarantee we can achieve good results
<Joerg-Neo900> likelihood of total failure of compass is low anyway
<Joerg-Neo900> sw devels might need to take into account with calibration: *) state of kbd slide open/closed (moving magnet in display), *) state of kickstand in/out (steel 'cover' in kickstand moving relative to the magnet in battery lid)
<Joerg-Neo900> .
<Joerg-Neo900> something anybody technically interested and slightly savvy in development (particularly kernel / drivers) may help with: in http://neo900.org/stuff/block-diagrams/neo900/neo900.html find an interesting component and click on the pink bottom link in hovertext. Gets you to e.g.http://projects.goldelico.com/p/neo900/page/Lights-Backlight/. Create an account so you may edit (you've noticed the page is 404), then go to http://projects.goldelico.
<Joerg-Neo900> com/p/neo900/doc/create/ and create the page for /Lights-Backlight/. Then search upstream linux for any drivers you can find for that chip, and add name and URLs/links to the wikipage
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<crox> Joerg-Neo900, thanks for the feedback.
<Joerg-Neo900> you're very welcome :-)
<Joerg-Neo900> re wiki, refer to root index http://projects.goldelico.com/p/neo900/page/00-index/ and the structure in there
<Joerg-Neo900> adding a new page to that index first simplifies creating the page by simply clicking to that link (with leading "+") in index
<Joerg-Neo900> refer to e.g. "(+) Sensors-Capture camera Capture button mechanical switch" in http://projects.goldelico.com/p/neo900/page/Sensors/
<Joerg-Neo900> ideally use "edit" of another similar existing page as template (refer to http://projects.goldelico.com/p/neo900/page/Sensors-Humidity/ resp http://projects.goldelico.com/p/neo900/doc/update/Sensors-Humidity/)
<Joerg-Neo900> the content isn't really good on that one, but the "framework" is there
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<Joerg-Neo900> I suggest "#I2C address:" "#linux driver source URLs:" in addition (apended) to the common:
<Joerg-Neo900> [[00-index]]/[[Sensors]]
<Joerg-Neo900> # type: Sensor Environment
<Joerg-Neo900> # location
<Joerg-Neo900> # component part number
<Joerg-Neo900> obviously please choose the right subcategory, instead of "Sensors" if you work on e.h. a LED controller
<Joerg-Neo900> then create copy of http://projects.goldelico.com/p/neo900/page/Sensors/ as "Lights" sub-index and add your link to the particular LED controller
<crox> Joerg-Neo900, maybe you should put these instructions somewhere on the website?
<Joerg-Neo900> good idea
<Joerg-Neo900> (markup always driving me mad, and the editor there isn't exaclty great either)
<Joerg-Neo900> ~#neo900 help drivers is http://projects.goldelico.com/p/neo900/page/edit-HOWTO/
<infobot> Joerg-Neo900: okay
<Joerg-Neo900> ~help drivers
<Joerg-Neo900> dang
<Joerg-Neo900> ~#neo900 help-drivers is http://projects.goldelico.com/p/neo900/page/edit-HOWTO/
<infobot> okay, Joerg-Neo900
<Joerg-Neo900> ~forget #neo900 help drivers
<infobot> Joerg-Neo900: i forgot #neo900 help drivers
<Joerg-Neo900> ~help-drivers
<Joerg-Neo900> crox: better that way? ^^^
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