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<adrien_oww>
morning
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<companion_cube>
hi
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<nicoo>
hi
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<Drup>
AltGr: ping ?
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<AltGr>
Drup: sorry, yes ?
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<Drup>
AltGr: did you see my pm from yesterday ?
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<AltGr>
err yeah, didn't you see my answers ?
<Drup>
no :
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<Drup>
AltGr: I mean, irc pm, not github ones
<AltGr>
Sure
<AltGr>
tu me reçois toujours pas .
<AltGr>
?
<Drup>
nop
<adrien_o1w>
utf8!
<AltGr>
oh sorry :p
<Drup>
I love irc so much ~_~
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<AltGr>
Drup, I'm PMing you as Antislash (trying another client)
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<Drup>
Grmbl.
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<adrien_o1w>
so you both managed to find IRC clients that don't handle private messages?
<Drup>
I handle private messages perfectly well
<adrien_o1w>
putting the blame entirely on AltGr; not very kind
<Drup>
when irc is not a shitty protocol, which happen quite often
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<Drup>
adrien_o1w: on irc*
<pippijn>
irc is nice
<AltGr>
well this account uses a gateway, which could quite possibly be broken ; but the other one uses a sane client...
<pippijn>
it could use some minor improvements
<pippijn>
in particular in DCC
<Drup>
pippijn: like "switch to xmpp" sort of improvements ? :)
<pippijn>
xmpp is nice, too
<pippijn>
but xmpp has a different goal than irc
<Drup>
not really.
<adrien_o1w>
Drup: it looks like you're putting the blame of a bad implementation on the underlying technology; it's like saying that your code is not unreadable because of you but because OCaml is a bad language
<pippijn>
it includes irc functionality
<pippijn>
but it wants to be more than that
<pippijn>
with buddy lists and presence notifications
<pippijn>
xmpp isn't enough of an improvement over irc, though
<pippijn>
I don't see the xml streaming mess as a protocol improvement
<Drup>
you can't have netsplit, you have fast reconnection on connexion lost, you have delay messaging system
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<pippijn>
you don't have built-in end to end encryption
<pippijn>
to get that, you need an OTR client plugin or similar
<pippijn>
SSL works the same as with IRC in that it decrypts and re-encrypts all messages on the server
<Drup>
otr is in the standard, but yeah, not well implemented
<Drup>
adrien_o1w: I will remind you this sentence the next time you rant about something :]
<adrien_o1w>
Drup: alright, remember you cannot use it for gobject-introspection though ;-)
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<Antislash>
Drup: well I tried with irssi /and/ mailed you :)
<Drup>
yep, answering
<Kakadu_>
I think that IRC can't deliver (later) messages to user which is offline. Am I missing something?
<adrien_o1w>
nope; and it apparently doesn't like some people ;p
<Drup>
it doesn't like bad connection, too. ;)
<Antislash>
Drup: yeah, that's why I switched to that xmpp gateway: irc was unusable at that moment because I was behind a totally unreliable wifi
<pippijn>
I'll start using xmpp when someone makes a usable linux client that supports video and voice transmission
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<CalimeroTeknik>
hello!
<CalimeroTeknik>
I'm wondering what ocamlfind is trying to do: "ocamlfind: /usr/lib/ocaml/ld.conf: Permission denied"
<adrien_o1w>
when doing what?
<CalimeroTeknik>
I'm packaging, actually
<adrien_o1w>
and you're trying to use DESTDIR? :)
<adrien_o1w>
you need a couple special steps
<CalimeroTeknik>
oh, no, there is an option -installdir
<adrien_o1w>
for some packages you might have to use both OCAMLFIND_DESTDIR and the regular DESTDIR
<CalimeroTeknik>
DESTDIR doesn't seem to be used here, with zarith
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<Drup>
CalimeroTeknik: for a very little moment, I actually believe you were there to try ocaml :D
<Drup>
(hi ;))
<CalimeroTeknik>
howdy :)
<adrien_o1w>
DESTDIR will be if there are non-library files: binaries (for bin/), documentation, files in share/ ...
<CalimeroTeknik>
(that time will come, Drup)
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<CalimeroTeknik>
(when I finally understand what 'monad' means, that is, and no guide seems to help me to)
<adrien_o1w>
monad? this is #ocaml, not #ghc
<gour>
lol
<CalimeroTeknik>
is that to say ocaml doesn't have this kind of thing?
<gour>
in reduced quantity
<adrien_o1w>
no, that we don't write monad tutorials every week
<CalimeroTeknik>
OCAMLFIND_DESTDIR="${pkgdir}/usr/lib/ocaml" make install doesn't change the fact that ocamlfind is trying to change the file in /usr… hmm
<gour>
adrien_o1w: kino developer is writing new app names 'shotcut' - another example of gtk --> qt migration
<gour>
*named
<Drup>
CalimeroTeknik: yeah, you don't really monads to program in ocaml, contrary to haskell
<companion_cube>
need? use?
<CalimeroTeknik>
you don't monads/
<adrien_o1w>
gour: I'm one of the first to say that the GTK+ devs are making their best to kill this toolkit; thing was and still is that it's the best compromise on portability, ease of binding, documentation, ...
<adrien_o1w>
that said, I really want to get something with the EFLs
<adrien_o1w>
but I believe that porting lablgtk -> ocaml-efl will not be difficult
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<adrien_o1w>
provided programs rely on the higher-level API
<adrien_o1w>
lablgtk API*
<adrien_o1w>
CalimeroTeknik: zarith uses oasis?
<adrien_o1w>
companion_cube: the haskell community could turn "monad" into a verb ;-)
<CalimeroTeknik>
grep -ri oasis on its sources gives nothing
<adrien_o1w>
more than that, it's a way of life ;p
<adrien_o1w>
CalimeroTeknik: stat setup.ml
<CalimeroTeknik>
there is no such file in the sources
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<CalimeroTeknik>
regardless, maybe I should find an environment variable that changes the value of -ldconf
<flux>
tagDb.ml is the interesting part, it has a pattern for doing stuff
<caseyjames>
Cool, I'll dig into that now. would row_data be run on the 'sql' from line 37?
<caseyjames>
ahh I'll look at that now.
<flux>
good luck :)
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<caseyjames>
flux: most of this code makes sense to me. What is this [|Data.TEXT key; Data.TEXT value|] -> Is sqlite returning an array for each row?
<flux>
yes
<flux>
and in this case I know it returns two columns
<flux>
both text
<caseyjames>
Oh, the formatting is strange. The parenthesis hide obscure the idea that Rc.ROW | Rc.DONE are a type. That makes more sense. Did you write this?
<flux>
I wrote tagger, yes
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<Drup>
companion_cube: to answer your question 6 hours ago : both ? :]
<companion_cube>
heh
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<j0sh>
can the parser from the Stream module be used with lwt?
<j0sh>
in particular i'd like to pass in a network fd (wrapped in lwt) and parse that using parser
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