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<brainacid> Hello room
<arquebus> hello
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<adrien> morning
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<Kakadu> Guys, do you if obuild already supports compiling camlp4 syntax extensions. If not, any thought is difficult to implement this?
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<companion_cube> no idea
<ggole> obuild? If you mean ocamlbuild, it has built in tags for camlp4 iirc
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<ggole> I think if you are compiling somebody else's code you have to do a bit of cut and paste though
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<ggole> Oh, never mind then
<ggole> (Another build system? O_o)
<adrien_oww> (of course!)
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<kerneis> when I try "opam install merlin", the installation fails on the first dependency; but repeating the command seems to install the dependencies one by one, until merlin installs sucessfully
<kerneis> the error is "make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found. Stop.
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<kerneis> I think I've seen this bug with some other package as well in the past, I don't think it's merlin specific
<kerneis> more likely a bug in opam
<kerneis> has anybody seen this before?
<def-lkb> kerneis: not really; version of opam and merlin (1.4.x I guess)?
<rks`> (yes, I'd guess that's an opam problem)
<thomasga> (what's the failure ?)
<brainacid> I wish the learning curve wasnt so steep. Im in desperate need to know complex languages...lol...I have issues
<kerneis> thomasga: thomasga http://pastebin.com/FJNumtuy
<kerneis> thomasga: and the next two runs (installing one dep each): http://pastebin.com/XLL5kEfE
<kerneis> then, I have *another* bug which is that ocp-build.1.99.6-beta requires typerex.1.99.6-beta, but typerex tries to call ocp-build during the make process, hence a bootstrapping issue
<kerneis> today is opam's bugs day
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<thomasga> kerneis: you should upgrade to the latest version
<thomasga> if you see the same problems again, feel free to report an issue (but the first one has been fixed recently I think)
<kerneis> okay
<kerneis> latest from git or latest release?
<thomasga> for ocp-build / typerex: in version 1.99.6-beta, ocp-build is just a virtual package
<thomasga> latest git release is almost the final 1.1
<thomasga> latest is beta
<thomasga> both are fine
<mehdid> kerneis: 1.1.0 will land in debian/sid "soon"
<mehdid> (unless you beat me to it)
<thomasga> (the ocp-build binary is built/installed during the installation of typerex, for version 1.99.6-beta)
<thomasga> (not anymore in the Git versions)
<mehdid> is it still needed?
<mehdid> or is it now just a build-dep?
<kerneis> thomasga: hu?
<kerneis> ==== ERROR [while installing typerex.1.99.6-beta] ====
<kerneis> Internal error: "ocp-build": command not found.
<kerneis> (but maybe upgrading opam will solve the issue?)
<kerneis> and btw, $ opam --version gives me 1.1.0
<kerneis> which is weird, I installed it a while ago
<kerneis> didn't `opam upgrade` used to ask for a confirmation before proceeding?
<kerneis> anyway, using opam from git solved my issues indeed
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<Kakadu> gasche: hi. Can u point me again to your ocamlbuild github wiki? (I write again because previous message have not appeared in my window)
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<maurer> Hey, I'm trying to get a function from a module that is parameterized on a value I want to compute at runtime
<maurer> I currently have
<maurer> let f' x = M(struct let c = x end).f
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<maurer> but this gives an odd syntax error (operator expected)
<maurer> what am I doing wrong here?
<mrvn> you need to pack/unpack the module
<maurer> mrvn: ?
<mrvn> first class module syntax is hairy.
<asmanur> you have to bind explictly the M(...)
<asmanur> (let module M_x = M (struct let c = x end) in M_x.f)
<maurer> This works, why does the other thing not?
<maurer> does ocaml just not like having unbound modules lying about?
<asmanur> maurer: because that's not syntaxical correct
<Drup> it does, but with a special syntax
<mrvn> the other would be a one time module.
<asmanur> the grammar is <module identifier>.<ident>
<asmanur> not <module expression>.<ident> as it might be ambiguous
<maurer> asmanur: when is that ambiguous?
<asmanur> maurer: if you have M(X).t
<asmanur> hm
<mrvn> what's ambigious about that?
<asmanur> well it's not cause of the .t
<asmanur> hmm
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<Drup> the type errors message with an unamed module would be interesting, but not much than with existentials
<nicoo> Drup: Wouldn't call it “interesting”
<nicoo> :(
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<yezariaely> gasche: thx for the pointer about the equivalence checking paper on the mailinglist (I am Robert)
<yezariaely> I totally missed that paper :)
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<transendens> hey
<transendens> anyone in 3110?
<Drup> only 2013 here. Do you finally have flying car in 3110 ?
<transendens> No need for cars when you live in the google matrix. All hail Larry Page.
<Drup> you have timetravel over IRC, so I suppose you can do without flying cars.
<nicoo> Drup: The sad part is that they *still* haven't switched to Jabber :(
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