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<Nistur> mornin'
<mtsd> Good morning!
<Regenaxer> Hi Nistur, mtsd!
<mtsd> Hi Regenaxer!
<Nistur> o7
<beneroth> Good morning :)
<Regenaxer> Hi beneroth!
<Nistur> how goes things?
<Nistur> cabin fever setting in yet?
<mtsd> No, fine here.
<mtsd> You?
<Regenaxer> Neithe$ here
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<beneroth> no cabin fever
<beneroth> no big change to normal, haha :)
<beneroth> no kids :P
<Nistur> :P
<Regenaxer> here too :)
<Regenaxer> but a cat
<mtsd> If anything, I get more done working from home
<mtsd> No interruptions, meetings etc
<beneroth> in the general population the amount of people unable to endure being so long together with their kids or partner seems to rise
<beneroth> many people have problems to be with themselves...
<beneroth> less opportunity to escape into ignorance and consumption
<mtsd> Seems so.
<beneroth> oh and parents get into crisis because their kids realize how dumb there are
<mtsd> In situations like this, introvert personalities save lives ;)
<beneroth> T
<beneroth> s/there/they
<mtsd> Facing yourself can be difficult
<beneroth> aye
<beneroth> I would guess all here faced yourself, on the path which lead them here :)
<beneroth> but yeah... for people who didn't face themselves for years, maybe decades, this is hell
<beneroth> the lasting effects will be.. interesting
<mtsd> I think so. It will be hard for many people
<mtsd> Maybe we did face ourselves, at least to a certain extent. Or we would not be doing what we do?
<Nistur> https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52114414 economy's gonna be totally destroyed
<mtsd> Similar signals over here.. We have some hard years ahead
<beneroth> global recession will come
<mtsd> Undoubtedly
<beneroth> USA expects unemployment of 42% or more of their population
<beneroth> US economy is primarily consumption driven...
<mtsd> More people are losing their jobs here than during the crisis of the 1990's now
<beneroth> tourism and big events have probably to close down for a few years
<beneroth> at least (let's just hope we get a vaccine eventually. not guaranteed...)
<mtsd> Many things are going to change. Some will even disappear
<beneroth> news things are created, too
<beneroth> the whole drama is horrible and so stupid, but there are a few positive aspects
<beneroth> in best case we can keep the momentum and take some effective steps against climate change and the ongoing species mass extinction..
<Regenaxer> true
<beneroth> and I just hope we fix the pandemic preparations after this. in general, the likelihood of such events is rising because of the big human population, human/animal proximity and travel speed.
<beneroth> this is not the big bad one the epidemiologists are warning about since 10+ years
<beneroth> (yep it could be worse. schlimmer geht immer)
<Regenaxer> I'm not so pessimistic about the future
<Regenaxer> It is not like the financial crisis where economic models broke
<Regenaxer> if a vaccine is found, economy functions again
* beneroth mumbles something about economy being largely not a true science
<beneroth> Regenaxer, the problem is, that is a big if
<beneroth> the current outlook is good, but so it was in the early days of HIV research afaik
<Regenaxer> Vaccine is a question of time
<beneroth> probably. also the virus will probably mutate into less severe
<Regenaxer> Exactly
<Regenaxer> more like flu, so a vaccine is possible
<beneroth> it is a complete different virus family
<Regenaxer> In any case it is good for the climate!
<beneroth> T
<beneroth> so lets picolisp away and get some more simplicity and cleverness into software in general :)
<Regenaxer> yep
<patrixl> ahha yeah I was saying earlier, these supply chain issues will force people to look for solutions other than "throwing more hardware/cloud at it"..
<Regenaxer> T, lightweight rules!
<patrixl> yeah!
<patrixl> (I say all that about cloud and hardware while my first picolisp contribution is an AWS thing.. haha)
<beneroth> patrixl, you are working on the migration strategy, that is perfect ;-)
<patrixl> true ;)
<patrixl> plus picolisp running in AWS lambda still means using fewer cloud resources/hardware in the end
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<aw-> patrixl: in a way, you're saving the world
<tankf33der> http://ix.io/2gdr
<Regenaxer> Looks very good (as ever)
<patrixl> aw-: haha doing my small part at least
<tankf33der> commited.
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<tankf33der> beneroth: ping you on threema
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