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<Regenaxer> Yeah, perhaps arpeggio should be trained especially. For me the aha was concentrating on the last finger
<Regenaxer> There is no hurry to finish an arpeggio as one might expect
<Regenaxer> the first finger can be pressed infinitely long
<Regenaxer> and then just a short tip with the second (or last in case of 3-finger arpeggios)
<Regenaxer> For the feedback, I recommend to enable haptic and sound on the phone
<Regenaxer> it gives a feedback when you missed one circle and the key was not generated
<Regenaxer> Unfortunately, on Nistu's old version this is still opposito (feedback on *succoss*), which is not as useful
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<beneroth> Regenaxer, I usually stay too long on the starting finger, then get nervous and press the wrong second one
<Regenaxer> this is good
<Regenaxer> The first one can be pressed indefinitely
<mtsd> Good morning
<beneroth> for a while did the arpeggios in reverse, which I found easier, but of course it is a different (change to F mode, instead F once)
<Regenaxer> Just the second one a short tip, then release all
<Regenaxer> < 80 ms
<Regenaxer> hi mtsd!
<beneroth> Good morning mtsd
<mtsd> How are you doing today?
<Regenaxer> fine :)
<mtsd> Good :)
<mtsd> I have to e-mail Sonnenhof and cancel my reservation. I hope they will make it through this
<Regenaxer> I'm sure
<Regenaxer> I talked to the farm wife too, she expects to stay closed over summer
<mtsd> Hard times for small hotels now
<mtsd> Cancelling Oktoberfest must be a big thing, I suppose?
<beneroth> it depends
<beneroth> for Bavaria? yes
<beneroth> xD
<Regenaxer> T
<beneroth> big difference for you, Regenaxer ?
<Regenaxer> I did not go there for decades
<Regenaxer> :)
<Regenaxer> it is a horror, too many crazy people
<beneroth> too many 'normal' people
<mtsd> Oktoberfest has been arranged here too. But usually renamed to 'OktobeerFest'..
<Regenaxer> cool name :)
<mtsd> Just an excuse to drink loads, mostly
<mtsd> But good pun :)
<beneroth> Switzerland also copied Oktoberfest, on local basis. biggest is event is probably in Zurich train station
<Regenaxer> yes, you must drink 8 ("octo") litres of beer
<beneroth> but no comparison, surely
<beneroth> :)
<beneroth> so.. 1 Byte?
<Nistur> mornin'
<Regenaxer> Hi Nistur
<beneroth> Good morning Nistur
<mtsd> The town where I grew up started to arrange it in restaurants, in the 90s
<mtsd> Hi Nistur!
<Nistur> hulloo :)
<Nistur> Regenaxer: yeah, I'm getting more used to the arpeggios :) I certainly need more practice, but I detest not having haptic feedback, which I think is making it more difficult than it needs to be
<Regenaxer> right
<Regenaxer> In any case it takes a long time
<Regenaxer> like a musical instrument
<beneroth> I trained daily for a short time, using a typing training app for the normal keyboard
<Nistur> regarding oktoberfest, I've been invited a few times to meet friends etc, I don't drink (well, very occasionally I drink cider, and even then I don't think I've ever had more than... 500ml of it at once) so I wouldn't go for drinking, and I've gotten fed up of very drunk people so... :P
<Nistur> beneroth: yeah, that's what I'm doing with gtypist. It's going a LOT faster than I expected actually
<beneroth> in the beginning it was hard, but I got some kind of fluency quite quickly
<Nistur> Regenaxer: don't say that, I am absolutely useless with every musical instrument. When I was younger I was SO bad that I had an instructor tell me there was no point in me continuing :P
<beneroth> the only thing I'm still incapable is special characters, because I didn't use it for coding yet
<beneroth> Nistur, you mean the instructor was so bad in teaching ;-)
<Regenaxer> :)
<mtsd> I practiced for a while on a tablet, but then the tablet broke
<Nistur> I've tried several instruments several times since then :P I have absolutely no musical skill at all :P
<mtsd> Not due to penti. Other reasons :)
<mtsd> Played guitar in my youth, long time ago
<Nistur> I will continue practicing using my tablet as a kind of external keyboard, but I think I've practiced enough that I think it might be worthwhile me trying to make a physical one :P
<Nistur> mtsd: I've had three very good guitarists (one who taught a lot of other people and was a provably good teacher) try to teach me guitar
<Regenaxer> btw, I use penti sometimes as an external keyboard
<Regenaxer> in X-Terms
<mtsd> I am a self-taught guitarist, not much of a virtuoso ;)
<mtsd> Produced some noise in a few local bands, back in the days
<Nistur> :)
<Nistur> one of the aforementioned guitarists was not only a self taught guitarist, he was a self taught musician in general. He could _literally_ pick up any instrument, even ones he'd never touched before, and have recognisable tunes within a very short time, and be playing them comfortably in a couple of days
<Nistur> you know the stereotypical cat wailing that you get from learning to play violin?
<Nistur> one day he came to visit me at my flat (this was when I was at university) and he had on a whim bought an electric violin while walking form his flat to mine
<Nistur> within _30 minutes_ he was playing tunes
<Regenaxer> Impressive
<Nistur> no cat wailing involved
<Regenaxer> :)
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<tankf33der> i give up for idx
<Regenaxer> Why?
<tankf33der> cant produce correct result.
<tankf33der> works on smaller set
<Regenaxer> The thing with the hash symbols?
<tankf33der> yea
<tankf33der> http://ix.io/2jao
<tankf33der> in 130K words file only 1 word should be returned.
<Regenaxer> hmm, does not look bad
<Regenaxer> you could save double idx calls though
<Regenaxer> but thats not the problem
<tankf33der> ('estop', 'pesto', 'stope', 'topes')
<tankf33der> so it should return only one list with (val (car L)) = 4
<tankf33der> it returns huge list of nonsense words with (val (car L)) = 4
<tankf33der> it sounds like shoot in foot and garbage.
<Regenaxer> is the tree itself correct?
<tankf33der> i will try split huge file in smaller set
<Regenaxer> You said it works for small sets?
<tankf33der> yeap, works.
<Regenaxer> So a kind of collision?
<tankf33der> this is example part of output
<Regenaxer> Why do you have to sort the line?
<tankf33der> http://ix.io/2jaq
<tankf33der> sort is for find the same word for estop and pesto
<Regenaxer> ok
<tankf33der> estop in idx, collision for pesto, so +1 in (caar K)
<Regenaxer> T
<Regenaxer> You could call only (idx 'D K T)
<tankf33der> ok
<Regenaxer> but it wont change the result
<tankf33der> good pil32 and pil64 works the same.
<Regenaxer> :)
<Regenaxer> So the count result 4 is not always correct?
<tankf33der> never correct
<tankf33der> i will take a rest and continue.
<Regenaxer> The code looks good
<tankf33der> i will store more info in prop list of char
<Regenaxer> ok
<tankf33der> i created idx on several gigs of random list of random length, works.
<Regenaxer> good to know
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<tankf33der> idx is ok. confirmed.
<Regenaxer> idx, yes, but the above script?
<tankf33der> i added storing debug info inside char and all clarified
<Regenaxer> What was wrong?
<tankf33der> i wrongly translate task. pasting code
<tankf33der> http://ix.io/2jc4
<tankf33der> i will modify code later to satisfy task's goal.
<Regenaxer> OK, great
<beneroth> so it was a purely conceptual mistake, not even a bug in the code
<beneroth> tricky stuff
<tankf33der> optional bonus 2 task.
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