11:44 <Lofty> Spent last night slowly adding timings for Arria V

12:27 <mmicko> Lofty: dumping data works fine on 13.1 but not on 13.0sp1 which is pitty since that is last version that support lot of old architectures

12:27 <Lofty> Ouch

12:28 <mmicko> tried linux and windows installation, and both get stuch in same way

12:28 <mmicko> running separate passes does not generate any dump files

12:29 <mmicko> it looks like it is stuck at quartus_map but when started manually it works just fine (but does not produce any dump file)

12:29 <daveshah> might be worth playing with strace/ltrace to see if there is a way round whatever it is getting stuck on

12:29 <mmicko> when running full flow it stuck at 100%

12:29 <mmicko> right, just cheheck on windows and it failed same way on same place

12:39 <mmicko> strace show that it reads some data (looks like data that you would expect in dump files) but it is very very slow

12:40 <daveshah> strange

12:40 <daveshah> n² type behaviour where it slows down over time?

12:42 <rombik_su> Interestingly enough, my Quartus 18.0 Standard tries to open bunch of unrelated files - iterating over all present device families etc.

12:43 <rombik_su> (on a compile run)

12:51 <Sarayan> 9.1 has the "PDB_ASCII_DUMP" string in its code

12:58 <Lofty> Well, I got most of the way through the Arria V dump, and then ran out of disk space.

13:09 <mmicko> Anyone aware if there is 13.0 ISO image or tar.gz for linux available ? only thing available on their site is for 13.0sp1

13:11 <rombik_su> mmicko: Web or SE edition?

13:13 <mmicko> well I can use Web only I guess, since I have no license

13:13 <rombik_su> Quartus-web-13.0.0.156-linux.tar, 4.5G, sound good?

13:13 <rombik_su> *sounds

13:13 <mmicko> yes, thanks

13:14 <rombik_su> I think I need an hour or two for this

13:14 <mmicko> no hurry

13:15 <Sarayan> rombik_su has every version of quartus ever, or so it seems

13:16 <rombik_su> One of the perks of living in Russia ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

13:16 <Sarayan> :-)

13:32 <mmicko> I have about 100GB of old FTP content from altera, including versions from 2.2 til 9.0 and some older

13:38 <rombik_su> 2.2, wow, quite a commitment!

13:47 <mmicko> quartusii_22_sp2_linux.tar

13:48 <rombik_su> Any MAX+PLUS in stock? )

13:51 <mmicko> maxplusii_1012_solaris.tar.Z maxplusii_1012_common.tar.Z

13:51 <mmicko> maxplusii_1021_pc.zip maxplusii_1022_pc.exe

13:51 <mmicko> this is all I have

13:52 <rombik_su> Solaris? Oh, wow.

13:54 <Sarayan> I have a student102.exe that's probably a maxplus2

13:55 <Sarayan> Yep, MAX+plus II 10.2 BASELINE

14:03 <mmicko> I had to check in my old CD collection, I should have original from Altera, which I ordered as student

14:18 <Sarayan> og.kervella.org/student102.exe

14:57 <rombik_su> mmicko: rombik.su/Quartus-web-13.0.0.156-linux.tar

15:00 <mmicko> downloading

15:05 <mmicko> done

15:08 <mmicko> rombik_su: all fine (installing right now) feel free to remove

15:09 <mmicko> ah, get stuck at same place

15:10 <mmicko> will need to deep dive in this

15:10 <rombik_su> That's a shame. Want to iterate over other versions?

15:11 <mmicko> 13.1 works, but does not support cyclone 2 anymore

15:11 <mmicko> nor max3000 and max7000

15:12 <rombik_su> What's your quartus.ini? Here's my lucky combo: PDB_ASCII_DUMP=on asm_dump_asmdb=on asm_dump_dirt=on

15:12 <Sarayan> dev_dump_part_data=on is nice too

15:14 <Sarayan> Error: Part name EPF8452AQC160 is invalid

15:14 <Sarayan> urgh, 9.1 doesn't want it it seems

15:15 <Sarayan> Does anybody have a quartus that actually likes that part number?

15:15 <Sarayan> It's flex 8000

15:17 <Sarayan> ouch, on 9.1 PDB_DUMP_ASCII dumps on stdout

15:17 <mmicko> ok I think I have figured it out

15:17 <mmicko> oh, Sarayan you got same as I did on 13.0sp1

15:18 <mmicko> it is going to stdout all the time

15:18 <mmicko> just checked and at 13.1 it is going to files, seams they changed it then

15:21 <mmicko> Sarayan: sent you my output for max7000ae on discord

15:37 <rombik_su> Sarayan: I'm sorry, looks like I've misguided you: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/programmable/support/support-resources/knowledge-base/solutions/rd07262013_295.html

15:38 <Sarayan> ah damn, I needed 9.0 then

15:40 <rombik_su> Of course, I'll need an hour or so.

15:40 <Sarayan> oh, an intriguing detail: quartus_sh includes the string 'PDB_ASCII_DUMP' (18.1 doesn't) so maybe it's triggerable from there (and perhaps you can have it dump into a file)

15:42 <rombik_su> Damn, there's no Linux version for 9.1 Web on my archive. I've got SE, and I believe you can switch it in web version (or 30-day trial) IIRC

15:43 <rombik_su> *9.0

15:43 <rombik_su> *switch it to web version

15:45 <rombik_su> But mmicko can hook you up with 9.0 for Linux instead!

16:04 <mmicko> ok, uploaded and provided him a link :)

16:06 <rombik_su> Thanks!

16:07 <mmicko> did not try to install to be honest

16:22 <Sarayan> downloading lalala

16:58 <mmicko> please just tell me when finished since I have no space more there :) so have to remove

16:58 <Sarayan> It's good, I just finished downloading the 4 linux fies

16:58 <Sarayan> files

16:58 <Sarayan> it's installing

16:59 <Sarayan> looks like nios is missing, but I don't think I care

17:01 <Sarayan> Error: License file is not specified

17:01 <Sarayan> hmmmm

17:06 <mmicko> uploading you nios