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<lf94>
aeth: ah, chibi scheme implements this...
<lf94>
to me this is not too bad
<lf94>
I expect majority of schemes to implement this
<lf94>
hash-table->alist
<lf94>
ok that is nice.
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<friscosam>
part of it boils down to: Do you really need your code to be portable? R7RS can do that but you either have to reimpliment or make compatibility shims.
<lf94>
I can live with this
<lf94>
I expect hash tables to be common place in many r7rs impls
<lf94>
they are just too useful
<aeth>
You can expect the SRFIs that are going to be in r7rs-large to be fairly widely available
<friscosam>
actually R7RS Red Edition has hash tables. It uses SRFI-125 and is under the standard name (scheme hash-table)
<lf94>
perfect
<lf94>
i'll be using that then
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<lf94>
oh wow. jcowan really is the authority when it comes to r7rs
<jcowan>
It's a dirty job, but someone has to do it. :-)
<lf94>
It probably means nothing, but I appreciate it.
<lf94>
(I mean, me appreciating it, means nothing, heh)
<jcowan>
No, your saying so means a lot, actually.
<lf94>
I see this space around r7rs is starting to grow but I can't imagine what it will be like in years to come
<lf94>
I expect great things
<jcowan>
You can look at the WG2Dockets page to see what things are planned
<jcowan>
of course any given thing may or may not make it into the standard
<aeth>
Is r7rs-large large enough for racket-on-r7rs-large? Would be amusing to see different backends for Racket.
<friscosam>
maybe if the ~1500 primitives were implemented
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<aeth>
friscosam: but if it can be implemented on r7rs-large it only has to be done once
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<ZombieChicken>
Anyone here used the irc lib? I'm trying to get one of the examples working to play with and I'm unsure why it doesn't seem to be joining
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<lexi-lambda>
ZombieChicken: I’ve used it, but it’s been a while.
<ZombieChicken>
yeah. I think I'm just going to write something myself. Not sure what is going on with it, but I'm questioning the sanity of using it
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<rlavery>
I'm good and confused about newlines. In my REPL they behave the way the documentation describes, but when writing to file with display, newlines are only displayed if they were string-appended by themselves with the other components of the final string. when I try to use (send the-clipboard set-clipboard-string <str>), newlines seem to be simply dropped.
<lexi-lambda>
rlavery: I have no experience with the clipboard, but can you create a program that demonstrates what you mean with `display`?
<bremner>
there's displayln if you want a newline automatically added
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<rlavery>
lexi-lambda: yup, I was just confused. I mean, I'm still confused, but it's not display's fault. The clipboard thing is almost definitely a separate issue too. Thanks for the sanity check. >_<
<rlavery>
.............I was filtering them out
<rlavery>
:facepalm:
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<jcowan>
equal? is structural equality, eqv? is identity, eq? is a performance hack that sometimes returns #f (characters, numbers, procedures) when eqv? would return #t.
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<lf94>
"undefined variable: define-library"
<lf94>
madness!
<lf94>
(define-library 'hello (begin (+ 1 2 3)))
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<bremner>
where should define-library be defined?
<lf94>
scheme base?
<bremner>
it doesn't show up on docs.racket-lang.org
<lf94>
it's in r7rs document
<lf94>
on defining libraries
<bremner>
so, I guess you just discovered that racket is not r7rs by default
<lf94>
I'm using chibi-scheme :v
<lf94>
But you guys are very helpful here
<lf94>
I can bring my r7rs questions somewhere else if that's what's preferred
<lf94>
And I apologize
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<dustyweb>
hello #racket!
<lf94>
hi :)
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<friscosam>
lf94: you'll probably have a bit better luck on #scheme unless the question is about the racket specific r7rs language
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<selimcan>
There isn't a racket-beginners channel, so apologies for a newbie question in: (define-syntax foo (lambda (stx) (check-equal? 0 1))) How should I change it so that the 'location' report by check-equal? is the location of (foo) where it's called?
<selimcan>
*reported
<selimcan>
I'm writing a tests for a rule-based machine translation system called Apertium, and the idea is to expand things like (test "source language string" "expected morphological analysis of it" "translation into X") and the like into check-equals, but naturally I need to know which of the initial (test)s failed if they do...
<selimcan>
(and where in the source file they are located)
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