07:54 <novakane[m]> Two questions, how can I debug damage tracking? I mean to see if it works as intended

07:55 <novakane[m]> And how does river handle subsurface currently? Like a surface?

08:32 <yyp> River doesn't have damage tracking yet iirc

08:40 <novakane[m]> yyp: well yeah I know I'm trying to work on it, that's why I'd like to know the best way to debug it :p

11:47 <ifreund> novakane[m]: Implement code to render it with some debug flag

11:58 <novakane[m]> ifreund: alright I see what I can do, I really didn't look into debug with zig yet

12:03 <novakane[m]> is there something like zig build -Ddebug?

12:08 <ifreund> novakane[m]: I'd implement this as a hidded command line option only available in debug builds

12:08 <ifreund> branch on std.bultin.mode

12:13 <novakane[m]> ifreund: ok ty I'll look into it

12:17 <novakane[m]> oh debug is the default build mode in zig

12:19 <novakane[m]> I really need to learn more about zig build system one day

12:23 <yyp> novakane[m]: yes, unless you use -Drelease-safe/-Drelease-small/-Drelease-fast

12:26 <novakane[m]> yyp: yep I just saw that, I could searched for a debug argumenst for a long time

12:28 <ifreund> to be fair, there are next to no docs for the build system yet

12:32 <novakane[m]> yep the only thing I found was on ziglearn that's why I didn't look too much into it yet

12:38 <ifreund> `zig build --help` does provide some documentation, though you've probably already found that

12:40 <novakane[m]> yeah that's usually the first thing I do with man pages when I install something

12:42 <novakane[m]> like a good linux user :p

14:56 <daurnimator> How do I make river appear in the GDM environment choice dropdown?

14:57 <ifreund2> I have no idea how gdm works sorry

14:57 <ifreund2> running river from a tty is the recommend way to start it

14:57 <daurnimator> apparently you can create a file in /usr/share/wayland-sessions/

14:58 <daurnimator> we should add that to the install

14:59 <daurnimator> does river have a logo/icon?

15:05 <leon-p> not yet, but some xdg spec specifies a default icon which the display manager should use when none is specified AFAIK

15:06 <leon-p> so you don't have to specifiy one

15:09 <ifreund> I don't want to add explict support for any one display manager

15:10 <daurnimator> ifreund: that's not a specific display manager; they all use that wayland-sessions dir; it's part of XDG i think?

15:10 <leon-p> /usr/share/wayland-sessions/river.desktop is standard, it would support most of them. But I am not sure we should ship that

15:10 <ifreund> ideally they shouldn't need river to do *anything* as demonstrated by greetd

15:10 <ifreund> does sway ship that?

15:11 <leon-p> I have it on this laptop and can't remember adding it myself, but I am not sure

15:11 <leon-p> sway.desktop that is

15:11 <ifreund> Yeah looks like they do

15:11 <daurnimator> yes they do, usr/share/wayland-sessions/sway.desktop

15:12 <leon-p> it certainly wuld make the experience of people using "out of the box" distributions a bit more seemless.

15:18 <ifreund> alright, I guess we should support the standard even if I think it's dumb :D

15:19 <leon-p> to be fair, a dumb standard is better than a clever one :P

15:20 <leon-p> ifreund: will you write that file or should I?

15:33 <ifreund> leon-p: go for it, I don't want to test it

15:34 <leon-p> reasonable

15:56 <leon-p> ok, just wanted to test the .desktop file and it turns out that GDM a) does not allow selection sessions anymore apparently, b) really does not like fprintd, c) locks the system when its service is stopped and finally d) now has also infected this laptop with the issue I had on my other one where sway would randomly on startup not have permissions to use the graphics card. Nice

16:00 <ifreund> sigh, that sounds even worse than I was afraid of :/

16:01 <novakane[m]> damn TTY for the win

16:01 <ifreund> yeah... so much simpler

16:01 <leon-p> or greetd because its autologin is less painfull than writing a mask for agetty.service

16:02 <ifreund> once I get frustrated enough with jack and linux audio I plan on getting back to the river options

16:02 <ifreund> yeah if you want more features greetd looks great

16:02 <leon-p> trying to setup fancy audio?

16:02 <leon-p> oh I don't want all those features, I just want autologin that does not suck is not a hack :D

16:03 <leon-p> I just build my mother an audio setup for her zoom courses. decided to ignore the software options and went straight to a hardware mixer. way less frustrating

16:04 <ifreund> I'm missed the postman delivering my bass amp this morning cause I was walking around the woods with a friend

16:04 <ifreund> I'm really impatient and haven't played bass for over a week and don't want to wait till monday, so I'm trying to make a software amp work

16:05 <leon-p> good luck then. In my experience jack isn't particularly intuitive :P