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more releases coming... if I can focus
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rue: what exact kind of error are you afraid of?
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whitequark >
I don't seem to understand you here.
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it's about eight copy-and-pasted tests for various %letters, and five more for delimiters.
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Given a file which gets required into my app, how can I tell if it contains a class definition and if it does the name of the class?
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digininja: tricky. you can do Object.constants before and after and compare, but that will only work for top-level classes
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well, you can do it recursively
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an ugly and non-production solution for classes and modules only (i.e. not all constants) would be to compare ObjectSpace
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apeiros >
in order to learn recursion, you first have to learn recursion.
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it would be a top level class so that is fine
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you go through all constants, then filter all constants which are modules, then get the constants in those modules, rinse and repeat
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(note: classes are modules too)
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sounds like it might be easier to just open the file as a file and grep through it
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the reason I want to do this is to let users add their own classes (add-ons) to my script
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In that case I'd have them call some method to register their plugin
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so when the file gets required in some code runs that tells something its name?
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digininja >
then after they have all been required I just go through that list
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digininja >
I knew there had to be a better way of doing it
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I'll have a look at implementing that, thanks
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Just a tip, when asking question, it's better for the people trying to help you to know what your goal is than the way you imagined of doing it
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ye, thats why I tried to describe what I was doing as well
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another one, if I want a class to output results in different formats, CSV, text, PDF etc, is it best to just have the get_results method take a parameter to say which format?
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I'll be adding new formats so don't want a method to get each format
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If there are 10 formats, having one method for each format sounds better than one huge method to get the results
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Then again you can always write a get_result(format) method that will just dispatch to the other methods
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my initial idea was get_pdf() get_csv() etc
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but then thought that because this is going to be called on the user addons if they haven't implemented a particular format then that would fail
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having a get_result(format) that calls the get_xxx if it knows about it feels the best option
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Did I miss a method of Enumerable/Array similar to String#split? I was looking for something to do [1, 2, -1, 3, -1, 4, 5, 6].foo{|e| e == -1} => [[[1, 2], [3], [4, 5, 6]].
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whitequark >
wnd: #group_by ?
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judofyr >
wnd: it exists, two sec
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whitequark >
oh no, not this
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judofyr >
wnd: #chunk
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>> [1, 2, -1, 3, -1, 4, 5, 6].chunk { |e| e == -1 }
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whitequark >
19>> [].chunk
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whitequark => /tmp/execpad-2a33811c6861/source-2a33811c6861:2:in `chunk': no block given (ArgumentError) ... (
http://eval.in/15833)
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>> [1, 2, -1, 3, -1, 4, 5, 6].chunk { |e| e == -1 }.to_a
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whitequark >
wow cool
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eval-in >
judofyr => [[false, [1, 2]], [true, [-1]], [false, [3]], [true, [-1]], [false, [4, 5, 6]]] (
http://eval.in/15834)
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>> [1, 2, -1, 3, -1, 4, 5, 6].chunk { |e| e == -1 }.select { |state, vars| !state }.map { |state, vars| vars }
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wnd >
thanks. it may not be ideal for this particular job, but definitely better than having to do everything manually.
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tsion >
You could use flat_map
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tsion >
Oh nevermind...
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tsion >
You got exactly what he wanted.
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tsion >
Not sure what I was thinking.
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ubersapiens >
hey ruby jedis...had a rails introductory class today at my web dev bootcamp...completely lost...instructor turboed through it...any useful screencasts or legit tutorials
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ubersapiens >
its a bit of a big jump when you come form a few days of sinatra
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thanks judo
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ubersapiens >
youre always super useful...i really appreciate it
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when I get a method "handle" via someobject.method(:method_name) is there a way to get at the method's super method?
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msch: hacky, and most likely not the best solution, someobject.class.superclass.instance_method(:method_name).bind(someobject)
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mbj >
msch: Can you navigate from handle to someobject again?
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msch >
mbj: there's no better way? also this doesn't take modules that are included into account?
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msch >
mbj: jep, m.owner
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mbj >
msch: I dont know a better way, but I expect there is one.
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msch >
mbj: I didn't find anything obvious in the docs for Object/Module/Method :/
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msch: it smells. The point of inheritance is to allow subclasses to override behaviour. The method on the superclass may be nonsensical when applied to the subclass
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msch >
GarethAdams: I know, but now with ruby 2.0 we have prepend and include, but we don't have anything that's include Module, before: SomeOtherModule
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msch: Yeah I agree you most likely face a code smell
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khaase >
zzak: around?
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khaase >
zzak: what's doctree? why is it not in the git repo?
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zzak >
khaase: link?
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zzak >
khaase: that is for rurema project
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khaase: ruby-doc.org is maintained by third party (james britt)
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zzak: but it's generated, right?
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khaase >
nvm, i guess I'll find it
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zzak >
khaase: yes, he has his own rdoc generator
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zzak >
based on darkfish
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khaase >
found where I have to add stuff
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looks like FNM_EXTGLOB is defined in dir.c
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khaase >
that's where I'm adding stuff now
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i think only rdoc 4 will understand rb_file_const
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maybe use Document-const: foo
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khaase >
zzak: uhm, time without a timezone?
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dont worry about the ChangeLog if that's what you mean
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khaase >
zzak: yeah, that's what I meant.
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khaase >
wait, need to fix copy pasta
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khaase >
force pushing the fix
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khaase >
zzak: can I submit patch via redmine?
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ah, I can submit via github? noice
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zzak >
khaase: thanks!
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khaase >
yeah, PR sent
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ill have to check on the ChangeLog bit, but it should be fine, just convert it to JST
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zzak: ah, I can do that
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crankharder >
amicrazy or did 1.9x add something like first? last? while inside some enumerable, like each.
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crankharder >
personally, I vote for crazy... but prove me wrong
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19>> [].each.first?
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eval-in >
whitequark => /tmp/execpad-6de8565151cc/source-6de8565151cc:2:in `<main>': undefined method `first?' for #<Enumerator: []:each> (NoMethodError) (
http://eval.in/15866)
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whitequark >
crankharder: huh?
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khaase >
#berlin.rb yo
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ddfreyne >
khaase: I’m only moving to Berlin in 39 days and 18 hours but I’ve joined anyway :D
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khaase >
ddfreyne: \o/
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rue >
ddfreyne: You working in BLN now?
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rue >
Or, you know, then
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khaase >
it's not for berliners only, it might just be berlin focused topic wise
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ddfreyne >
rue: Yep, moving from Ghent, Belgium to Berlin, Deutschland!
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ddfreyne >
Oh wow, it’s that late already? I meant 39 days and 17 hours
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ddfreyne >
I’m celebrating my birthday in Ghent and then immediately afterwards (next morning) take a one-way plane to Berlin!
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ddfreyne >
Ups! Google Chrome konnte isddfreyneinberlinyet.com nicht finden.
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ddfreyne >
↑ I’m practising my Deutsch
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rue: Maybe I should make a countdown at stoneship.org/countdown
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hi, im having some issues with: require "password", it says it cant find activesuppot, tho i got it installed, any ideas?
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cHarNe2: rails app?
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TTilus: no, just a script
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cHarNe2: Lets see the exact error please
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cHarNe2: And you spelled activesupport wrong. Hopefully that isn't the problem :)
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i dont do the require myselfe, it's from Password
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Weird. `How did you install the gem?
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gem install --no-ri --no-rdoc password
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cHarNe2 >
then i tried with both activesupport and avtice_support
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cHarNe2 >
im using ruby 2 if that matters
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cHarNe2: what does `gem list` say?
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zenspider >
cHarNe2: there is no activesupport to require
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cHarNe2: does it show both password and activesupport
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zenspider >
it should be "active_support"
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zenspider: Doesn't AS have both those in lib?
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cHarNe2 >
both with and without _ and password
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cHarNe2: those are gem names. that has nothing to do with what you require
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cHarNe2 >
ok, the only thing i require is password, nothing else.
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andrewvos >
Well then that password gem needs updating.
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zenspider >
doesn't matter. a bad require is a bad require
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zenspider >
maybe you shouldn't use the password gem if they can't get that right
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cHarNe2 >
can someone verify on their machine?
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zenspider >
and why would a password gem be dependent upon activesupport?
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zenspider >
do one thing and do it well
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pretty much mandates that you don't use activesupport
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It sounds shit.
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cHarNe2: password gem looks abandoned, last release 2008
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ohh, that might explain it
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that wasn't even the correct require in 2008
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you probably just want $stdin.noecho(&:gets)
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but as I told someone yesterday... unless you're a security expert, your shit is full of security holes.
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just because it looks more secure, doesn't mean it is by any means
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That was the first result for "password gem". Fail.
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cHarNe2 >
all i really wanted was to "mask" the user-input :)
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Listen to zenspider then ;)
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god. what a douchebag
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Indeed. This is almost as stupid as that metherd-missing guy.
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i knew giles was somewhat controversial character at times, but this... duh
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bit surprising, have to say
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-somewhat
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s/controversial/asshatted/
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I always feel dirty with s///, but then I remember that it isn't just perl, but also sed
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then I just feel old, which is ok
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suprising that giles is an asshat?
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shouldn't be, if you're alive and paying any attention at all
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zenspider: Try gsub
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pskosinski: yeah... no. the ONE thing I still use perl for is inplace substitutions. ruby sucks for that
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zenspider: not at all, i just tried to be polite and all
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TTilus: heh
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that refactoring was big and kinda fun.
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