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<zenspider> last 10
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<zenspider> stupid pinky
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<zenspider> hoe version 3.5.3 has been released! | software releases by ryan davis - http://t.co/ianKn4ro3z
<zenspider> sexp_processor version 4.2.1 has been released! | software releases by ryan davis - http://t.co/o9W64qdTPg
<zenspider> hoe-seattlerb version 1.3.0 has been released! | software releases by ryan davis - http://blog.zenspider.com/releases/2013/04/hoe-seattlerb-version-1-3-0-has-been-released.html
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<zenspider> flay version 2.2.0 has been released! | software releases by ryan davis - http://blog.zenspider.com/releases/2013/04/flay-version-2-2-0-has-been-released.html
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<zenspider> rawr
<zenspider> more releases coming... if I can focus
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<zenspider> minitest version 4.7.1 has been released! | software releases by ryan davis - http://blog.zenspider.com/releases/2013/04/minitest-version-4-7-1-has-been-released.html
<zenspider> ruby_parser version 3.1.3 has been released! | software releases by ryan davis - http://blog.zenspider.com/releases/2013/04/ruby_parser-version-3-1-3-has-been-released.html
<zenspider> RAWR
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<andrewvos> derp
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<whitequark> rue: what exact kind of error are you afraid of?
<whitequark> I don't seem to understand you here.
<whitequark> it's about eight copy-and-pasted tests for various %letters, and five more for delimiters.
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<digininja> Given a file which gets required into my app, how can I tell if it contains a class definition and if it does the name of the class?
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<judofyr> digininja: tricky. you can do Object.constants before and after and compare, but that will only work for top-level classes
<apeiros> well, you can do it recursively
<digininja> how?
<apeiros> an ugly and non-production solution for classes and modules only (i.e. not all constants) would be to compare ObjectSpace
<apeiros> in order to learn recursion, you first have to learn recursion.
<digininja> it would be a top level class so that is fine
<apeiros> you go through all constants, then filter all constants which are modules, then get the constants in those modules, rinse and repeat
<apeiros> (note: classes are modules too)
<digininja> sounds like it might be easier to just open the file as a file and grep through it
<digininja> the reason I want to do this is to let users add their own classes (add-ons) to my script
<Mon_Ouie> In that case I'd have them call some method to register their plugin
<digininja> so when the file gets required in some code runs that tells something its name?
<digininja> then after they have all been required I just go through that list
<Mon_Ouie> Yes
<digininja> I knew there had to be a better way of doing it
<digininja> I'll have a look at implementing that, thanks
<Mon_Ouie> Just a tip, when asking question, it's better for the people trying to help you to know what your goal is than the way you imagined of doing it
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<digininja> ye, thats why I tried to describe what I was doing as well
<digininja> another one, if I want a class to output results in different formats, CSV, text, PDF etc, is it best to just have the get_results method take a parameter to say which format?
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<digininja> I'll be adding new formats so don't want a method to get each format
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<Mon_Ouie> If there are 10 formats, having one method for each format sounds better than one huge method to get the results
<Mon_Ouie> Then again you can always write a get_result(format) method that will just dispatch to the other methods
<digininja> my initial idea was get_pdf() get_csv() etc
<digininja> but then thought that because this is going to be called on the user addons if they haven't implemented a particular format then that would fail
<digininja> having a get_result(format) that calls the get_xxx if it knows about it feels the best option
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<wnd> Did I miss a method of Enumerable/Array similar to String#split? I was looking for something to do [1, 2, -1, 3, -1, 4, 5, 6].foo{|e| e == -1} => [[[1, 2], [3], [4, 5, 6]].
<whitequark> wnd: #group_by ?
<judofyr> wnd: it exists, two sec
<whitequark> oh no, not this
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<judofyr> wnd: #chunk
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<judofyr> >> [1, 2, -1, 3, -1, 4, 5, 6].chunk { |e| e == -1 }
<eval-in> judofyr => #<Enumerator: #<Enumerator::Generator:0x41b41310>:each> (http://eval.in/15832)
<whitequark> 19>> [].chunk
<eval-in> whitequark => /tmp/execpad-2a33811c6861/source-2a33811c6861:2:in `chunk': no block given (ArgumentError) ... (http://eval.in/15833)
<judofyr> >> [1, 2, -1, 3, -1, 4, 5, 6].chunk { |e| e == -1 }.to_a
<whitequark> wow cool
<eval-in> judofyr => [[false, [1, 2]], [true, [-1]], [false, [3]], [true, [-1]], [false, [4, 5, 6]]] (http://eval.in/15834)
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<judofyr> >> [1, 2, -1, 3, -1, 4, 5, 6].chunk { |e| e == -1 }.select { |state, vars| !state }.map { |state, vars| vars }
<eval-in> judofyr => [[1, 2], [3], [4, 5, 6]] (http://eval.in/15835)
<judofyr> wnd: ^
<wnd> thanks. it may not be ideal for this particular job, but definitely better than having to do everything manually.
<tsion> You could use flat_map
<tsion> Oh nevermind...
<tsion> You got exactly what he wanted.
<tsion> Not sure what I was thinking.
<judofyr> here's another example of #chunk: http://blog.segment7.net/2012/03/16/a-use-of-enumerable-chunk
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<ubersapiens> hey ruby jedis...had a rails introductory class today at my web dev bootcamp...completely lost...instructor turboed through it...any useful screencasts or legit tutorials
<ubersapiens> its a bit of a big jump when you come form a few days of sinatra
<judofyr> ubersapiens: I've heard good things about http://ruby.railstutorial.org/
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<ubersapiens> thanks judo
<ubersapiens> youre always super useful...i really appreciate it
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<msch> when I get a method "handle" via someobject.method(:method_name) is there a way to get at the method's super method?
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<mbj> msch: hacky, and most likely not the best solution, someobject.class.superclass.instance_method(:method_name).bind(someobject)
<mbj> msch: Can you navigate from handle to someobject again?
<msch> mbj: there's no better way? also this doesn't take modules that are included into account?
<msch> mbj: jep, m.owner
<mbj> msch: I dont know a better way, but I expect there is one.
<msch> mbj: I didn't find anything obvious in the docs for Object/Module/Method :/
<GarethAdams> msch: it smells. The point of inheritance is to allow subclasses to override behaviour. The method on the superclass may be nonsensical when applied to the subclass
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<msch> GarethAdams: I know, but now with ruby 2.0 we have prepend and include, but we don't have anything that's include Module, before: SomeOtherModule
<mbj> msch: Yeah I agree you most likely face a code smell
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<khaase> zzak: around?
<khaase> zzak: what's doctree? why is it not in the git repo?
<zzak> hi
<zzak> khaase: link?
<zzak> khaase: that is for rurema project
<khaase> or rather, where does http://www.ruby-doc.org/core-2.0/File.html come from?
<zzak> used for this: http://doc.ruby-lang.org/ja/
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<khaase> ah, ok
<zzak> khaase: ruby-doc.org is maintained by third party (james britt)
<khaase> zzak: but it's generated, right?
<khaase> nvm, i guess I'll find it
<zzak> khaase: yes, he has his own rdoc generator
<zzak> based on darkfish
<khaase> found where I have to add stuff
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<zzak> looks like FNM_EXTGLOB is defined in dir.c
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<khaase> yeah
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<khaase> that's where I'm adding stuff now
<zzak> i think only rdoc 4 will understand rb_file_const
<zzak> maybe use Document-const: foo
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<khaase> zzak: uhm, time without a timezone?
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<zzak> khaase: ?
<zzak> dont worry about the ChangeLog if that's what you mean
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<khaase> zzak: yeah, that's what I meant.
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<khaase> ah, dang
<khaase> wait, need to fix copy pasta
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<khaase> force pushing the fix
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<khaase> zzak: can I submit patch via redmine?
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<khaase> ah, I can submit via github? noice
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<zzak> thats fine
<zzak> khaase: thanks!
<khaase> yeah, PR sent
<zzak> ill have to check on the ChangeLog bit, but it should be fine, just convert it to JST
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<khaase> zzak: ah, I can do that
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<crankharder> amicrazy or did 1.9x add something like first? last? while inside some enumerable, like each.
<crankharder> personally, I vote for crazy... but prove me wrong
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<whitequark> 19>> [].each.first?
<eval-in> whitequark => /tmp/execpad-6de8565151cc/source-6de8565151cc:2:in `<main>': undefined method `first?' for #<Enumerator: []:each> (NoMethodError) (http://eval.in/15866)
<whitequark> crankharder: huh?
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<khaase> #berlin.rb yo
<rue> Represent
<ddfreyne> wewt
<ddfreyne> khaase: I’m only moving to Berlin in 39 days and 18 hours but I’ve joined anyway :D
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<rue> /kick
<khaase> ddfreyne: \o/
<rue> ddfreyne: You working in BLN now?
<rue> Or, you know, then
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<khaase> it's not for berliners only, it might just be berlin focused topic wise
<ddfreyne> rue: Yep, moving from Ghent, Belgium to Berlin, Deutschland!
<ddfreyne> Oh wow, it’s that late already? I meant 39 days and 17 hours
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<ddfreyne> I’m celebrating my birthday in Ghent and then immediately afterwards (next morning) take a one-way plane to Berlin!
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<ddfreyne> Ups! Google Chrome konnte isddfreyneinberlinyet.com nicht finden.
<ddfreyne> ↑ I’m practising my Deutsch
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<ddfreyne> rue: Maybe I should make a countdown at stoneship.org/countdown
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<cHarNe2> hi, im having some issues with: require "password", it says it cant find activesuppot, tho i got it installed, any ideas?
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<TTilus> cHarNe2: rails app?
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<cHarNe2> TTilus: no, just a script
<andrewvos> cHarNe2: Lets see the exact error please
<andrewvos> cHarNe2: And you spelled activesupport wrong. Hopefully that isn't the problem :)
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<cHarNe2> andrewvos: http://pastie.org/7438641
<cHarNe2> i dont do the require myselfe, it's from Password
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<andrewvos> Weird. `How did you install the gem?
<cHarNe2> gem install --no-ri --no-rdoc password
<cHarNe2> then i tried with both activesupport and avtice_support
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<cHarNe2> im using ruby 2 if that matters
<TTilus> cHarNe2: what does `gem list` say?
<zenspider> cHarNe2: there is no activesupport to require
<TTilus> cHarNe2: does it show both password and activesupport
<zenspider> it should be "active_support"
<andrewvos> zenspider: Doesn't AS have both those in lib?
<zenspider> nope
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<cHarNe2> both with and without _ and password
<zenspider> cHarNe2: those are gem names. that has nothing to do with what you require
<cHarNe2> ok, the only thing i require is password, nothing else.
<andrewvos> Well then that password gem needs updating.
<zenspider> doesn't matter. a bad require is a bad require
<zenspider> maybe you shouldn't use the password gem if they can't get that right
<cHarNe2> can someone verify on their machine?
<zenspider> and why would a password gem be dependent upon activesupport?
<zenspider> do one thing and do it well
<zenspider> pretty much mandates that you don't use activesupport
<andrewvos> It sounds shit.
<TTilus> cHarNe2: password gem looks abandoned, last release 2008
<cHarNe2> ohh, that might explain it
<zenspider> that wasn't even the correct require in 2008
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<andrewvos> lmgtfy
<zenspider> you probably just want $stdin.noecho(&:gets)
<zenspider> but as I told someone yesterday... unless you're a security expert, your shit is full of security holes.
<zenspider> just because it looks more secure, doesn't mean it is by any means
<andrewvos> That was the first result for "password gem". Fail.
<cHarNe2> all i really wanted was to "mask" the user-input :)
<andrewvos> Listen to zenspider then ;)
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<TTilus> uhh, the whole password gem is a joke http://gilesbowkett.blogspot.fi/2008/02/sudo-gem-install-password.html
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<zenspider> god. what a douchebag
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<andrewvos> Indeed. This is almost as stupid as that metherd-missing guy.
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<TTilus> i knew giles was somewhat controversial character at times, but this... duh
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<TTilus> bit surprising, have to say
<zenspider> -somewhat
<zenspider> s/controversial/asshatted/
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<zenspider> I always feel dirty with s///, but then I remember that it isn't just perl, but also sed
<zenspider> then I just feel old, which is ok
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<TTilus> =D
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<zenspider> suprising that giles is an asshat?
<zenspider> shouldn't be, if you're alive and paying any attention at all
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<pskosinski> zenspider: Try gsub
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<zenspider> pskosinski: yeah... no. the ONE thing I still use perl for is inplace substitutions. ruby sucks for that
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<TTilus> zenspider: not at all, i just tried to be polite and all
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<zenspider> TTilus: heh
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<zenspider> that refactoring was big and kinda fun.
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<zenspider> rawr
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