apeiros changed the topic of #ruby-lang to: Ruby 2.0.0-p353: http://ruby-lang.org (Ruby 1.9.3-p484) || Paste >3 lines of text on http://gist.github.com || RubyConf 2013 at http://www.justin.tv/confreaks
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<TvL2386> hi guys, I'm having some problems with inheritance, I have a little demo here: http://pastie.org/8548675. It's about redefining constants and seeing old values
<TvL2386> I don't understand why it does not work the way I thought it would be
<TvL2386> doing "p self.class::CONST" works, but it looks ugly and I don't know why :S
<TvL2386> *don't know why it should be done like this...*
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<whitequark> TvL2386: constant lookup in ruby is lexical
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<whitequark> i.e. if you have: class A; module B; C, then the constant is first searched in B, then A, then toplevel (Object)
<whitequark> this has nothing to do with inheritance, at all.
<whitequark> self.class::CONST is how you solve it, yes
<TvL2386> I would have expected it to work the same way you redefine a method in a subclass... I still don't really understand how the lookup goes
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<TvL2386> whitequark, in your example, is the module B included in class A? Because then it works like I would expect
<TvL2386> but in my example, it return the CONST from A instead of B when instantiating B and printing CONST
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<lewix> TvL2386: If I understand it correctly - https://gist.github.com/anonymous/8b94f9f236f35e5a9c6e
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<whitequark> TvL2386: to understand how method lookup for CONST goes, you should look at the place in the source code where CONST is used.
<whitequark> there's also a Module.nesting method, which shows the constant lookup path
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<whitequark> >> class A; class B; p Module.nesting; end; end
<whitequark> grrrr
<whitequark> that would be => [A::B, A]
<whitequark> now let's try with an additional method
<whitequark> >> class A; def foo; p Module.nesting; end; end; class B < A; end; B.new.foo
<whitequark> => [A]
<whitequark> in other words: constant lookup is not affected by inheritance in any way.
<TvL2386> :)
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<TvL2386> very interesting whitequark ... takes a while to dig in here... sorry :)
<TvL2386> also found this interesting blog post: http://cirw.in/blog/constant-lookup
<whitequark> yes, that's a good post
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<yorickpeterse> morning
<lewix> hello
<lewix> it's 12:37am
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<lewix> I guess it's morning
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<maloik_> definately morning
<maloik_> :D
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<yorickpeterse> 09:45 here
<krasnus> yorickpeterse: you're in europe?
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<yorickpeterse> No I'm on mars
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<yorickpeterse> but yes, I'm in the EU
<yorickpeterse> straight outta mothfucking NL
<krasnus> I would've guessed so, yes :p
<manveru> poor moths
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<maloik_> taking a new db dump to use for a new feature
<maloik_> hubot image me xkcd compiling
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<maloik_> :(
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<ljarvis> derp
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<yorickpeterse> today's wtf:
<yorickpeterse> eager loading the entire AWS SDK nearly doubles memory usage
<yorickpeterse> app went from 60 to 100 MB on 1.9
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<maloik_> I don't know what it is, but doing d3js graphs always feels like I'm just rolling my face on my keyboard waiting until something works
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<zzak> whats sleep
<zzak> im training ginger to use a leash
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<maloik_> why would you want your cat to have you on a leash ?
<maloik_> also, sleep is the thing I'm not having for the next 30 or so hours
<maloik_> and only had 5 of this night :/
<zzak> maloik_: where you going?
<workmad3> I tried to least-train my cat
<maloik_> austria, skiing
<zzak> im jelly
<zzak> how is belgium right now?
<workmad3> he was comfortable enough with the harness on... but the moment someone was holding the lead, he turned into a growling, fuzzy, ginger brick
<maloik_> the usual... cold and somewhat wet
<zzak> workmad3: yeah, hes gotten used to the harness
<zzak> workmad3: but he doesnt walk, just lays down, when i try to move about
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<workmad3> zzak: sounds about right
<maloik_> so you're cleaning the floors at the same time? win!
<zzak> haha
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<zzak> maloik_: any plans for arrrcamp 5 yet?
<workmad3> maloik_: the claws tend to be facing the wrong way for that...
<maloik_> zzak: definately :-) we'll announce the date as soon as we can
<maloik_> looking into a different venue
<zzak> maloik_: we should change the location
<maloik_> why's that?
<zzak> maloik_: we should do it in NL or LX
<zzak> it would be fun :)
<maloik_> and also highly impractical :D
<maloik_> no it'll be in ghent for sure
<zzak> because of openminds?
<maloik_> mostly because we simply live here :)
<zzak> yeah
<zzak> i rly wanna visit those places
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<maloik_> right, im going to go back to cursing at d3js
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<yorickpeterse> today is brought to you by "BENCHMARK EVERYTHING"
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<yorickpeterse> granted benchmarking network IO related stuff is pretty tricky
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<ljarvis> :-/
<gnufied> what are you benchmarking and how?
<yorickpeterse> benchmarking a daemon app that pulls from a queue, spams an API, does some JSON stuff and then re-queues it
<yorickpeterse> trying to compare the differences between 1.9.3 and Rbx-2.2.1
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<eam> I noticed some bad behavior from irb. If it's not killed at logout (eg, sudo'd to another user) it doesn't do the right thing when stdin/out/err go away when the terminal goes away
<eam> for example, it'll try to write a prompt write(1, "?> ", 3), get EIO because the terminal is gone, and instead of terminating it retries in a tight loop consuming 100% cpu
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<whitequark> eam: please report this at bugs.ruby-lang.org
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<bougyman> eam: that sounds like bad o/s behavior
<bougyman> something's not sending it a term/kill signal.
<eam> bougyman: well, either the irb has trapped it due to a race in something else (like a lib handles signals for a period to do db work) or it's running as another user and can't be sent the signal
<bougyman> I can't duplicate that here.
<eam> working on a repro, I'll file a bug
<bougyman> you mean: open a new terminal, sudo irb, then loop { print "hi."; sleep 0.1 } then forcible close the terminal?
<bougyman> that's what I just tried.
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<chris2> hi bougyman
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<zzak> eam: please do!
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<eam> hm you know what, it appears this only occurs on an ancient REE 1.8.7 and is fixed on anything remotely modern
<eam> nevermind :)
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<zzak> ;)
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