havenwood changed the topic of #ruby to: Rules & more: http://ruby-community.com || Ruby 2.2.3; 2.1.7; 2.0.0-p647: https://ruby-lang.org || Paste >3 lines of text on https://gist.github.com || log @ http://irclog.whitequark.org/ruby/
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<uberjar> I'm trying to parse log files and I'm noticing a variation in the format that my ruby app is outputting because in some places I use DateTime.now.utc.iso8601 and other times I use Time.now.utc.iso8601. I had naievly assumed they would be exactly the same
<uberjar> so i can't just use string manipulation to parse these logs the way I thought I could
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<uberjar> but it's no big eal
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<drbrain> you could Time.parse your log results
<uberjar> never the less my vote is to make them the exact same if that counts for anything..
<uberjar> maybe I'll submit a pull request to ruby
<drbrain> yeah, it seems better to output Z instead of the 0 offset
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<uberjar> yea.. Time.parse is what I'm going to have to do now, but that's extra CPU cycles for my usecase
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<uberjar> cool beans, well thanks a bunch
<uberjar> I vote for Z too although consistancy would be fine if it were +
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<toretore> uberjar: don't compare or parse the strings; always use Time.iso8601 on it first, and then you can compare them
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<toretore> Time.iso8601 will always parse a valid string into a Time, and then you don't have to deal with any of it
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<shevy> ruby ruby ruby
<Sigma00> I hate that song
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<BraddPitt> its the theme song of this channel
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<BraddPitt> put it on repeat
<shevy> Sigma00 there is a song like that?
<Sigma00> shevy: BraddPitt graciously linked us
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<Sigma00> now I hate him
<shevy> omg...
<shevy> I thought it would be like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=baUY9LFlYh0 ... please don't hate me :(
<BraddPitt> ahahaha
<BraddPitt> oh jesus shevy
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<shevy> the japanese are a weird people... ruby ... ninjas... sumos... samurais... robots ... crazy songs ... crazy pranks ...
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<Sigma00> wtf is that
<Sigma00> I couldn't take more than 10 seconds
<shevy> haha
<shevy> Sigma00 yeah, I have no idea myself either
<shevy> I forgot anime
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<ylex_> what's the difference between alias and alias_method?
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<drbrain> alias is a keyword and can use bare method names without commas
<drbrain> plus it can alias global variables
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<ylex_> drbrain: is alias more commonly used?
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<drbrain> ylex_: alias_method is more commonly used nowadays
<drbrain> AFAIK, almost nobody aliases global variables
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<AdolfH> hallo
<shevy> our old webchatter is back for another ban
<AdolfH> ?
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<Radar> AdolfH: Come on. Show some originality at least.
<AdolfH> ?
<Radar> It's pathetic the troll attempts we have been getting recently.
<Radar> Real amateur type shit. Must be PHP devs.
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<Sigma00> Pure Hate Personified
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<AdolfHitlr> what is the most annoying program you can make in ruby?
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<Radar> !mute AdolfHitlr
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<uberjar> survey about coding conventions and readability: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/bc0f756e26f1762beab3
<eam> uberjar: I hope everyone says the second one
<uberjar> 8 lines vs 1 though…
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<eam> so?
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<uberjar> I mean.. if it were 16 lines vs 2 lines.. or 32 lines vs 4 lines..
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<uberjar> at some point it's better to have less code
<eam> if you had 32 lines of code on 4 lines it'd be just as hard to read as 8 lines of code on one line
<uberjar> yeah but its' not like it's a huge long line
<uberjar> it's actually pretty compact.. and if you're used to that operator I don't see why it's any harder to read per say
<uberjar> I dunno.. I think most people agree with you
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<eam> the precedence and multiple uses of : and ? are difficult to parse, I think
<uberjar> but I suspect it's a bias having to do with lots of people being influences by C based languages before they came to ruby
<eam> thing = a || b || c || d || e # is better than a conditional I think
<uberjar> hrmmm
<eam> uberjar: I've done a lot more C than ruby and I'd write it on 8 lines in C
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<eam> or at least I'd break the ternary out into multiple lines
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<eam> the trouble with ruby I suppose is that the crappy whitespace parsing means I can't use my favorite C style forthis
<uberjar> I suspect though that if you had spent more time in a language such as scheme (which also influenced Ruby's design) then you'd prefer the 1 liner
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<eam> uberjar: like this: https://gist.github.com/eam/46a30eb8a62d5bfdd4df (doesn't work because ruby)
<uberjar> because you'd be used to parsing parens and the precedence would feel more natural to see
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<eam> well even in scheme or lisp I'd tend to put only one logical expression per line
<uberjar> I think I like that better too ^
<bnagy> it compresses to when <0 ; else
<eam> bnagy: yeah :(
<eam> I could add a backslash but I hate that even more
<eam> I guess in ruby you'd leave the ? on the first line
<bnagy> nested ternaries are just vile
<eam> this isn't a nested ternary though
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<bnagy> the top one is
<eam> oh, well, I guess yeah inside the parens
<eam> at least it uses parens, I mean
<bnagy> so a case with only one case is also known as an if statement
<eam> updated formatting
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<eam> made a comment with something that oughta work in ruby
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<uberjar> well I have to admit that does look more like well written scheme
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<bnagy> whatever it looks like it doesn't look like ruby
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<bnagy> if offset < 0; range = (0..(23 - offset)); else; range = (offset..23); end
<bnagy> except with linebreaks
<eam> the 8 lines are not a problem when wrapped inside a method called calcualte_offset
<eam> or w/e
<bnagy> job done, move on
<eam> range = if :)
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<bnagy> no, because that's less readable
<eam> do you think so?
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<bnagy> yes
<eam> range = offset < 0 ? 0..(23 - offset) : (offset..23) # is pretty ok though
<bnagy> you'd be amazed how much readability comes from resisting the temptation to be a smartass
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<eam> offset < 0 and 0..(23 - offset) or offset..23
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<bnagy> I wouldn't use the ternary, but if you're someone that does then yeah, that's pretty ok
<eam> sorry range = offset < 0 and 0..(23 - offset) or offset..23
<eam> least number of non-alpha
<bnagy> noooo now you make me think about and or && || precedence
<eam> wwahahhaaha
<bnagy> ternary is better than that
<eam> especially with the and/or/not parsing being so busted in ruby
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<eam> just remember the and/or/not is super low whereas &&/|| is high
<bnagy> mostly we just tell people to always use && ||
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<bnagy> saves trouble in the long run
<eam> I'd say "no way always use and/or/not" but they're broken on ruby so it's bad advice
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<eam> but if I'm writing say perl, then I always want the lower precedence for flow control - generally
<eam> thing "whatever" or die
<eam> you don't want or to bind tight
<bnagy> that's perlism thought
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<bnagy> ruby tends to fail unless thing
<eam> it'd be a rubyism if rubys parser wasn't ...
<eam> a > b or raise "oopsies"
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<eam> but they break so often it's hard to use them without pulling your hair out
<bnagy> I'm certainly not going to go in to bat for and or && || precedence rules, but the less perl idiom the better imho :P
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<bnagy> I wish we could retire 80% of the perl globals without breaking every codebase on earth
<uberjar> who's on first ? and is right ? or was it ||
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<eam> >> ?|
<ruboto> eam # => "|" (https://eval.in/445347)
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<uberjar> bnaggy your if statement is missing the conditon for what's supposed to happen when offset == 0
<bnagy> uberjar: it's not missing anything
<eam> >> ?|*$$
<ruboto> eam # => "||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||| ...check link for more (https://eval.in/445348)
<bnagy> if it's 0 then it's not <0
<uberjar> range = offset == 0 ? (0..23) : (offset > 0 ? (offset..23) : (0..(23-offset)))
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<uberjar> if offset is zero it's supposed to return (0..23)
<bnagy> you just have redundant logic in your original, so I took it out
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<uberjar> oh damn you're right! because if offset is 0 I can just use a reference to offset instead of the literal 0
<uberjar> nice that's a better chice
<uberjar> choice.. bravo
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<bnagy> if you really want short I don't totally hate eam's ternary based on that
<bnagy> 09:48 < eam> range = offset < 0 ? 0..(23 - offset) : (offset..23) # is pretty ok though
<bnagy> I just don't use them as a matter of principle
<eam> mostly me either, unless it's a very simple expression like x ? y : z
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<eam> almost any other non-alphanumerics and I'd break it up
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<adh_> how the fuck is israel jewish land? that's like me going to your house and telling you that you're on my property because my indian ancestors lived where you're living
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<adh_> i didn't break any rules
<havenwood> ?ot adh_
<ruboto> adh_, this seems to be off-topic. Please move your discussion to #ruby-offtopic, to keep this channel free for Ruby related topics. Thanks!
<adh_> sorry i meant to pm that
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<agent_white> Evenin'
<CooloutAC> agent_white: evening
<deuxclique> hey all
<havenwood> deuxclique: hi
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<deuxclique> I guess this is my official 'hello world'. hope to contribute soon enough.
<havenwood> deuxclique: :D
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<agent_white> Hello planet!
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<Eiam_> hrm, how the heck do you pass parameters into this damn DSL =(
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<Eiam_> Anyone ever used https://github.com/thbar/kiba and know how to pass paramters into your source ? it looks lke they string your whole file and pass it to instance_eval
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<Eiam_> okay, weird. just reloaded it and it worked fine..
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<faraway> Hi, how can I tell „bundle“ to use a differnt ruby version?
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<faraway> ruby -v reports 2.2.3 but bundle uses 2.0
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<maletor> faraway: edit ruby bersion in the gemfile
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<BrazenBraden> I have a ruby project consisting of scripts which run business logic and perform functions like emailing people under certain conditions. lots of emails can be shot off at once so I am trying to implement Resque as a worker to send the emails asynchronously. all the examples i find on configuring rescue are rails related. for instance, i dont have a Rakefile, there are no application initializers, etc.. not sure where to start with getting resque wo
<BrazenBraden> rking for a simple ruby script project. anyone got any resources that could help?
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<faraway> maletor: if i tun „bundle install“ it reports „/usr/local/bin/bundle: /usr/bin/ruby2.0: bad interpreter“ or is this also related to the gemfile?
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<faraway> Or do I need ruby2.0 and ruby2.2 to run bundle
<faraway> and to use 2.2
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<lxsameer> hey friends, I need to find a memory leak, what is the best step to start? heap dump ?
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* apeiros sometimes wonders why so many people plenk
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<bnagy> lxsameer: best way to start is to be absolutely sure you have a memory leak
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<lxsameer> bnagy: I kinda am, the memory usage of our server process double on each request
<lxsameer> bnagy: and we have to restart it after a short period of time
<bnagy> does it actually OOM if you don't?
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<bnagy> anyways, you can poke around ObjectSpace, it's a lot cleaner if you have some suspicions about what might be leaking
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<bnagy> my standard approach is actually to run it under jruby, then you can use the Java profiling tools :P
<baweaver> Though they do have disclaimers on it needing work.
<lxsameer> bnagy: OOM?
<baweaver> out of memory
<lxsameer> bnagy: baweaver thanks guys, the jruby solutions seems nice too
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<bnagy> if it's that drastic, though, you're probably right. Memory growth over time is often misdiagnosed when it's just Normal OS Behaviour
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<bnagy> but double per req seems pretty bad :)
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<yorickpeterse> morning
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<adaedra> Hi
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<shevy> ruby ruby ruby
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<shevy> "vm_insnhelper.c: solve goto spaghetti."
<shevy> ruby cuisine!
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<doddok> anyone works with atom editor? ned read something about atom
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<doddok> could u give links?
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<certainty> shevy shevy shevy
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<shevy> doddok havenwood uses it
<Takumo> Hi all, I've got an interesting requirement here. I need to run rspec specs from within a Sinatra app
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<Takumo> I need to present rspec via some sort of web ui that lets me show the examples and allows the user to run them
<Takumo> I would do it with some sort of Javascript thing except its a ****ing SOAP api that is being tested
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<gregf__> interestingly enough ruby and shevy end with 'y' ;)
<adaedra> That's interesting.
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<gregf__> >> gems = %w{shevy ruby}; 10.times { puts gems[rand(2)] + "!" *3 }
<ruboto> gregf__ # => ruby!!! ...check link for more (https://eval.in/445423)
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<shevy> gregf__ lol
<certainty> >> %w(shevy ruby).sample
<ruboto> certainty # => "shevy" (https://eval.in/445424)
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<shevy> what would you recommend to inter-communicate between two .rb scripts that are running? drb? sorta like, one is a REPL and it should send instructions to the other running file
<Takumo> adaedra: basically the client has a SOAP API but they're not sure of its robustness/quality and want me to provide a test suite they can run and get reports from on a regular basic.
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<adaedra> Why are you highlighting me
<certainty> because he/she thought that your last "interesting" was related to his/her question
<shevy> adaedra because he likes you!
<[k-> >> %q*shevy*.to_i(31).to_s(31)
<ruboto> [k- # => "she" (https://eval.in/445431)
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<certainty> :)
<adaedra> certainty: oh right.
<shevy> I'd help but I never used rspec so I have no idea
<[k-> who even tests!
<shevy> well it depends on what you mean with a test
<shevy> I do test functionality
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<certainty> jhass: thanks :) In fact I have read that somewhere the other day but forgot about it. So thanks for reminding me again
<jhass> I found after a week or so it's just easier to use it in fact than even trying to make lists... ;)
<certainty> shevy: how do you test functionality?
<certainty> jhass: now i remember where. it was the talk from the pycon
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<shevy> certainty I try to test that everything works as expected!
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<shevy> probably not 100% though
<certainty> now that you talked about enumerating all possibilities in lists
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<certainty> shevy: by hand?
<shevy> by written code!
<certainty> shevy: one more for your list
<certainty> shevy: that's good
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<suchness> Anyone know of a standard practice in validating an object in regard to many other objects? I have a lot of objects that are valid as a whole, but not individually. I have a few ways of going about it, but am curious if anyone has dealt with a problem like this before.
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<lalalaaa> Hi! Anybody know how to sort methods alphabetically? https://gist.github.com/dt1973/7c8777fe704921fc05f3 -- probably gonna be hell to do it in Vim
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<adaedra> parse, re-order, re-generate ruby code.
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<arup_r> Any body used this API ? https://github.com/adelevie/parse-ruby-client/tree/v0.3.0#updating-objects I am trying to figure out what should I send in my case instead of "GameScore"
<arup_r> ?
<arup_r> That Gem hits this https://parse.com/docs/rest/guide/#push
<arup_r> I have to query there using email_id field ..and get the details out
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<arup_r> I am actually trying to implement https://www.parse.com/docs/ios/guide#push-notifications
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<Dwarf> Hey there, I was just wondering what's prefered? {:foo => 'bar'} or {foo: 'bar'}
<adaedra> I prefer the second.
<workmad3> I tend towards the second nowadays too
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<lalalaaa> +1
<lalalaaa> +1 for the 2nd i mean
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<gregf__> >> a = { name: "foo", sal: 200};a
<ruboto> gregf__ # => {:name=>"foo", :sal=>200} (https://eval.in/445478)
<workmad3> I'm not quite sure I *like* it still, but I tend to write it mostly from spending too much time with JSON :)
<lalalaaa> i loves it
<adaedra> it's shorter!
<adaedra> what's not to love!
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<lalalaaa> from ruby with love
<workmad3> I'm more in favour of it since `{ "key": value }` support was added
<workmad3> lalalaaa: originally, what I disliked was the closeness to JSON without actually supporting JSON syntax
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<lalalaaa> ah, yeah i can understand that
<workmad3> Dwarf: it's worth noting that if you want to create a hash literal with something other than symbols as keys, you *have* to go back to hash-rocket syntax
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<workmad3> even `{ "foo": "bar" }` will convert "foo": to a symbol, not a string key
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<Dwarf> Noted
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<pkp> Hi, How do I prevent irb from converting single quote strings to double quotes
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<oddmunds> pkp: there is really no difference between them
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<[k-> ruby will _always_ use double quotes
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<[k-> (it will convert '' to "")
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<adaedra> pkp's gone, [k-
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<[k-> :/
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<chris2> php tracks that?
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<Seinnd> ellow guys
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<[k-> elbow?
<Seinnd> just a quick question about sorting -> i'am on plain ruby without rails and i want to sort a loop by a specific order of words
<adaedra> sort a loop?
<Seinnd> arr.sort(**).each
<[k-> the very idea of sorting /a loop/ is ...
<adaedra> sort an array, then
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<adaedra> You can pass a block to Enumerable#sort to specify how it should sort.
<[k-> you could be looking for Array#sort_by { |a,b| }
<[k-> &ri Array#sort_by
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<Seinnd> adaedra, thanks that gives me a start
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<shevy> wat... who wants to elbow guys here!
<[k-> ?guys shevy
<ruboto> shevy, Though inclusion was probably intended, not everyone relates to being "one of the guys". Maybe consider using "folks", "all", "y'all", or "everyone" instead?
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<shevy> [k- <Seinnd> elbow guys <-- !!! <[k-> elbow? !!!!!
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<[k-> immunity is granted to non regulars
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<shevy> [k- did you test the new frozen literal string already?
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<[k-> i have not touched 2.3
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<CustosLimen> I'm having problems with passenger and gollum - if I just run `bundle exec gollum --port 4141` I get gollum working fine, but if I run via passenger it does not work at all - config.ru and passengerfile and everything else is here: https://gitlab.com/aucampia/gollum-wiki/tree/master
<[k-> but i use frozen strings once in libobf!
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<shevy> when using git checkout... I see two different commands for the ruby source
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<shevy> "git clone --depth 1 git://github.com/ruby/ruby.git" and "git clone git://github.com/ruby/ruby.git", which one should be preferred? I don't know from where I got the --depth 1 thing
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<tobiasvl> shevy: --depth makes a shallow clone, preferable if you don't need the entire (large) history of the entire ruby repo
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<shevy> ah
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<shevy> I can see now... started the non-depth variant at the time I wrote the above, and I am only at 20% checkout :(
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<[k-> ha! i use the github web interface
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<[k-> no need to checkout!
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<shevy> hmm
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<shevy> too many options... svn ... git ... github interface...
<dvxam> hello folks
<shevy> hi guy
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<dvxam> I've facing a weird issue using 2.2.1 with ruby method parameters default value order (i know this s not very clear)
<dvxam> This pastebin should clarify it : http://pastebin.com/3ftiEStq
<ruboto> dvxam, we in #ruby do not like pastebin.com, I reposted your paste to gist for you: https://gist.github.com/fbd23b8a4631a3a6cb08
<ruboto> pastebin.com loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting.
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<shevy> well
<shevy> the second argument is mandatory right
<shevy> and you provided only one argument
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<shevy> so there are only two ways for ruby to resolve this situation
<shevy> - either it would force you to provide two arguments
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<shevy> - or it will assume that you did intend to satisfy the mandatory argument part
<[k-> what did you expect?
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<maloik> honestly, I didn't even consciously know it worked that way, probably that styleguide (or a variation of it) is so engrained in the way I work
<dvxam> @shevy thx. I think ruby is doing the right thing here but i was supprised it does not raise an execption at compile time
<maloik> probably because that*
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<shevy> dvxam yeah it surprised me too BUT, I actually do it like the style guide suggests
<shevy> def foo(i, bla = 'default value')
<shevy> I don't think I ever used
<shevy> def foo(bla = 'default value', i)
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<shevy> I wonder if official ruby documents that behaviour
<dvxam> shevy me too! I would never do this in production code.
<dvxam> shevy yes exactly.
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<dvxam> And i'm not sure this is working with 1.9.xx versions of ruby
<dvxam> I'm gonna try
<shevy> yeah
<shevy> I think you can try with ruboto here
<shevy> 1.9>> or so... I can't remember
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<dvxam> 1.9>> puts 'hello'
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<funkenstrahlen> hey, I just try to create my first gem. How can I define gem dependencies in .gemspec? I have a Gemfile and would like to define those dependencies in the .gemspec. Or does gem build already use my Gemfile to track the dependencies?
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<dvxam> >> puts
<ruboto> dvxam # => ...check link for more (https://eval.in/445555)
<maloik> funkenstrahlen: https://github.com/openminds/bisu is an example of one way of doing it
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<dvxam> >> puts 'hello'
<ruboto> dvxam # => hello ...check link for more (https://eval.in/445556)
<dvxam> Ok i stop failing and rvm install 1.9.3
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<funkenstrahlen> maloik: talking about this part? https://github.com/openminds/bisu/blob/master/bisu.gemspec#L21-L26
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<maloik> yep
<funkenstrahlen> maloik: thanks!
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<BrazenBraden> anyone have some good resources about setting up and configuring Resque for a ruby scripting "app"? All I find is rails integration.
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<dvxam> shevy : just so you know, it's valid 1.9.3 syntax too
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<[k-> opt args have always been like that
<[k-> there's also more magic
<funkenstrahlen> Hey, I just got "You don't have write permissions for the /Library/Ruby/Gems/2.0.0 directory." error on 'gem install somegem' on my mac. Did I setup something wrong? This should normally not require sudo right?
<[k-> def *args, **args2, a = 3, b, c
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<dvxam> [k- Haha this is even more fun to read. Ruby, what a magic world. Thx
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<funkenstrahlen> ah I think I found the right thread on stackoverflow for my problem
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<loc22> Hi guys! Im trying to extract some info from urls and trying to use some gem for open graph protocol. I have tried opengraph_parser, opengraph, open_graph_reader... and any of those work
<loc22> Which one do you normally use?
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<funkenstrahlen> So it looks like I messed up my Mac ruby version as I installed some gems to the system instead of using rbenv. How can I clean that up?
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<funkenstrahlen> Am I safe to remove all gems?
<funkenstrahlen> or will this affect my mac system?
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<loc22> funkenstrahlen: It is safe
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<shevy> funkenstrahlen I always keep a local copy of all .gem files
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<shevy> you can batch-install very quickly from a local directory with all your .gem files
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<shevy> in the cache/ subdirectory, every installed .gem is also kept
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<shevy> so I usually end up cd-ing to that subdir, and copy whatever gem I installed there
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<funkenstrahlen> ok thanks. will now setup rbenv
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<shevy> zenspider hah, did you know, phuby gets more competition: https://github.com/hmlb/phpunit-vw
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<funkenstrahlen> Is it possible with rbenv to not compile the ruby version when installing? this takes a long time...
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<[k-> (if you think that is slow, look at how long haskell (and packages) takes to compile T.T)
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<shmoon_> was looking into state machines in ruby
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<shmoon_> can someone explain the difference betwen mealy and moore here - http://micahmartin.com/statemachine/documentation.html ? cuz to me the explanation seems same.
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<the_drow> I created a new serverspec type and I'd like to have it fail with a specific message but I'm not sure how to do it
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<the_drow> I can't find the exception I should be raising
<the_drow> It's probably an rspec exception
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<lxsameer> how can I get a method from an object dynamically without evaluating it ?
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<darix> lxsameer: what are you trying to achieve?
<[k-> yes, what are you trying to acheive?
<[k-> achieve*
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<lxsameer> I'm writing a dsl , something like this, default_value :some_method
<[k-> (you can't pluck a method from class A and plonk it into class B if that is what you are doing)
<lxsameer> I want to fetch some_method and store it on a queue and execute it later
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<[k-> don't store methods on queues, it will be unnecessary duplication, wasting ram
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<[k-> instead, use Object#public_send :method_name, args
<lxsameer> thansk
<[k-> that way you just store the symbols at little cost
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<darix> this reminds me a bit of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bZh5LMaSmE
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<[k-> hmm, on further thought, method might be more space efficient compared to [instance, :method]
<[k-> there is also another way, proc do |*args| instance.send :method, *args end
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<[k-> which of the three might be the most efficient?
<apeiros> almost certainly Method
<[k-> lxsameer: apeiros has spoken
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<apeiros> if it matters - measure
<[k-> &ri Module#method @lxsameer
<lxsameer> thanks folk
<lxsameer> thanks folks
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<[k-> weeeelllllcooooommmmeeeee :D
<adaedra> wat
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<adac> Does someon have a clue on how to store a ruby array in redis?
<adaedra> Use a redis gem
<lxsameer> apeiros: #method return the reference to the method instead of duplicating it right ?
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<adaedra> It returns a Method object representing the method on the object
<apeiros> it creates an object which wraps all necessary information.
<apeiros> it's internally probably quite similar to having a reference to the instance and the method name (just that it won't be the name)
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<yorickpeterse> I just spent a whole day optimizing a single DB query
<yorickpeterse> I regret nothing
<maloik> gitlab users worldwide thank you
<yorickpeterse> and this saves me a whopping 500ms, and a bunch of sequence scans
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<yorickpeterse> maloik: heh
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<yorickpeterse> hopefully somewhere at the end of this month I can get my hands on the issue listing page
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<yorickpeterse> god those pages take forever to load
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<wharr> What does "There was an error processing your request, a binding error occurred." mean when using HTTParty
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<johnny56> why is this so difficult to install? =/ I ran yum install rubygems, gem update. now it just errors out with "ERROR: while executing gem ... (socketerror) getaddrinfo: name or service not known
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<darix> johnny56: that is a dns error
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<darix> nothing to do with ruby per se
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<johnny56> there's nothing wrong tihs my dns
<johnny56> i can ping all hosts and my other applications work fine.
<havenwood> johnny56: What version of RubyGems is yum giving you?
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<havenwood> johnny56: gem -v
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<johnny56> 2.4.8
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<havenwood> johnny56: Usually RubyGems ships with Ruby these days (it was a separate package in 1.8) though it's been a while since I've used a yum package for Ruby. On Fedora then?
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<johnny56> centos
<johnny56> they are both installed
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<buharin> hello
<buharin> :)
<havenwood> johnny56: I didn't know CentOS even did modern Ruby packages! That's good to hear.
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<havenwood> buharin: hi
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<buharin> what do you think about python?
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<beast> Guido van Rossum likes it
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<havenwood> buharin: Most folk in #ruby (myself included) probably prefer Ruby.
<johnny56> so is there a reason why this thing keeps erroring getaddrinfo...
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<havenwood> johnny56: Running a `gem install` command?
<johnny56> running any gem cmd..
<johnny56> nothing works
<johnny56> I mean lol... yum install rubygems then do a update and the whole thing breaks?
<havenwood> johnny56: gem install hola --debug
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<havenwood> johnny56: DNS lookup failing as already mentioned. Maybe checking with --debug will tell you more about why.
<johnny56> it's not telling me anything
<johnny56> socketerror at /usr/share/ruby/resolv.rb:777 - get addrinfo name or serice not known
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<havenwood> johnny56: This is Fedora or CentOS?
<johnny56> centos..
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<havenwood> johnny56: What version of CentOS?
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<johnny56> 7
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<havenwood> johnny56: How about?: which gem
<johnny56> usr/bin
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<havenwood> johnny56: I just ask because the version of gem you reported isn't shipped as a CentOS package so I'm confused how that happeend.
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<johnny56> as I said i ran gem update then after that everything stopped working
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<r0x0rZ> i want to use 3rd party code that's not a rubygem but it is available on Github. I want to include it in my own gem. what's the best way to do this? I thought about cloning the repo to lib directory but I'd like to do this more neatly.
<herbst> depends on the size and license of the code i probably would create the gem myself
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<herbst> if its just a file or two just work it into my current code base
<r0x0rZ> herbst: it has MIT license
<r0x0rZ> it's actually several files
<herbst> shouts gem for me, except you really know that you will use this only once and nobody else could ever use it
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<SaKi_KnIn> hello, I need rails chanel
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<SaKi_KnIn> problem with connect to database
<mozzarella> /join #rubyonrails
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<SaKi_KnIn> mozzarella: thx
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<balazs_> do Thread-s have some I/O limitations ? Why doesn't this print anything (ruby 2.1.2): Thread.new do puts 'x' end
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<canton7> balazs_, likely your program terminated before that thread could start?
<adaedra> Try `Thread.new do puts 'x' end.join'
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<balazs_> canton7: ding ding; thanks !
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* A124 looks at go|dfish
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<hal_9000_> Final call: 36 hours remaining - Crowdfunding _Elixir for the Rubyist_ - http://igg.me.at/elixir4rubyists
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<A124> hal_9000_ server not found
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<hal_9000_> A124: Sorry! typo
<hal_9000_> Final call: 36 hours remaining - Crowdfunding _Elixir for the Rubyist_ - http://igg.me/at/elixir4rubyists
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<suchness> A quarter raised in a month, and looking for 3/4 in 2 days? Somehow I am doubtful...
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<suchness> hal_9000_: Is the book supposed to be geared towards teaching a proficient ruby programmer elixer?
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<hal_9000_> suchness: yes, that is the basic premise
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<hal_9000_> suchness: the goal will not be met of course, but flex-funding is in place, so it will not be wasted
<suchness> hal_9000_: I just noticed that!
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<hal_9000_> and with only one author now, the goal is twice as high as it needs to be
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* A124 notes its flexible funding.
* A124 missed that.
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<shebang> Hey I have a unique sort of problem...
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<eam> probably uniq after sort, it's faster
<shebang> I'm collecting data into a nested hash container, I know only that the first and intermediate keys are all hashes except for the last, which is an array. Also every array element will be a string.
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<shebang> I put together a gist example: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/314cf192b884ff26ee01
<N3sh108> hello there!
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<shebang> Hoping maybe someone here might have an idea or two I can try
<shebang> hi
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<N3sh108> I want to iterate from today's date until today + 2 months. Something like: DateTime.now.upto(DateTime.now + 2.month) do |date| /// end
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<N3sh108> how do I properly do it?
<InternetFriend> Hey I don't suppose someone would mind helping me resolve a git issue... this is by far the weirdest one I've ever seen
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<N3sh108> InternetFriend: what is the problem?
<InternetFriend> Well I went to do a commit just like usual
<InternetFriend> And I get "you are currently rebasing"
<N3sh108> git commit -m"lol easy"
<InternetFriend> And I didnt initiate a rebase
<InternetFriend> so i run git rebase --abort
<InternetFriend> and it says "No rebase in progress?"
<InternetFriend> bizarre
<N3sh108> try git rebase --continue
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<N3sh108> or git --status
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<N3sh108> to see what's up
<InternetFriend> both return "No rebase in progress"
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<InternetFriend> err
<InternetFriend> "You are currently rebasing"
<N3sh108> did you try with --skip, --continue and --abort?
<N3sh108> no luck?
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<InternetFriend> i did
<InternetFriend> no luck at all
<prefixed> why are singleton classes useful
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<yxhuvud> could there be a lock file somewhere?
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<InternetFriend> great question
<N3sh108> yeah, check privileges
<apeiros> InternetFriend: #git was usually pretty helpful with my git issues
<shebang> @N3sh108, I'm not sure with ruby but bash makes your date problem simple: `date -d "+$x days" +%F`, then increment x up to 60
<yxhuvud> prefixed: for one thing, it allows you to do clas methods.
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<N3sh108> shebang: in ruby though :(
<InternetFriend> thanks i'll check it out
<shebang> sorry, I'm a bash guy, ruby is new
<apeiros> N3sh108: are you in rails or plain ruby? I assume you want to step 1 day each iteration?
<InternetFriend> found it. there was a "rebase-merge" file that was orphaned at some point causing the discrepancy. really weird stuff man.
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<prefixed> yxhuvud that seems like an obscure way to do it. why did matz make this terrible design decision?
<N3sh108> apeiros: I just fixed it by just using 60 instead of 2.month
<balazs_> Is it possible that curl and backticks are the fastest way to download content from the web ? It's faster than net/http or open-uri for me.
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<N3sh108> basically DateTime.now + {days} already does the dirty job for you
<yxhuvud> prefixed: why do you find it horrible?
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<prefixed> yxhuvud it is very unclear when written: class << a... blah blah
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<shevy> because prefixed is trollolling
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<prefixed> no. i dislike ruby and sometimes i come in here to ask why the language does terrible things
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<prefixed> this is much clearer: def String.value_of obj
<shevy> "why did matz scratch his nose, why was matz born in japan, why did matz call the language ruby and not phuby"
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<yxhuvud> Then use the second form. I won't stop you (though I'd prefer self)
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<prefixed> shevy why would you ask those questions? those seem totally useles
<apeiros> prefixed: you'll have to find a way to ask in a less inciting form though. otherwise I'll remove you from this channel.
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<shevy> I don't even understand that part about the syntax since you can use "def self.foo"
<eam> shevy: def-initely
<prefixed> ok. well, i am out of hatred for ruby right now. i'll be back when i find something else to hate.
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<shevy> you can also use one of the *eval* like instance_eval or class_eval
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<eam> get it
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<shevy> we can define - !
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<shevy> def -(initely) # or something
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<shebang> So, real quick anyone think of anything for https://gist.github.com/anonymous/314cf192b884ff26ee01 ? I've tried using merge methods but the fact that the keys are automatically generated makes it impossible past the first layer..
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<apeiros> shebang: are your trees arbitrarily deep?
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<shebang> apeiros: yes, but I know they're all hashes except the last one, which is an array with string elements
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<apeiros> shebang: and you only care about identical subtrees if they start at the same level?
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<shebang> apeiros: that's correct, sorry I should have commented that in the gist
<eam> shebang: I missed the problem you're solving for?
<eam> oh, the desired output
<apeiros> shebang: I'd probably search for identical subtrees first
<apeiros> not sure
<shebang> I'm trying to consolidate key values if their contents are identical
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<shebang> apeiros: meaning you'd start at the tree root?
<apeiros> anyway, in 1.9+, you can use the subtree as a key and the keys as value
<apeiros> yes, and merge subtrees. then recurse. i.e. breadth first
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<shebang> cool, I'm only supporting this for Ruby 2+ so good there
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<shebang> apeiros: How do you check equality for the last value without iterating down the tree first though? The keys themselves are always different as in the example, it's the array values that overlap
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<apeiros> shebang: I'd compare the whole subtree. unless I understood your problem wrong.
<apeiros> i.e. on a single level: inverted = Hash.new { |h, k| h[k] = [] }; tree.each do |key, subtree| inverted[subtree] << key end
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<apeiros> then you have all keys which share the same subtree in inverted
<shebang> and then continue that for each level, if I'm understanding right? Won't that error out if your comparing the values that have hashes as values themselves? for instance the Names in my gist?
<shebang> *you're
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<shebang> hash_formatted = $hash_audit_out.sort.group_by{ |k,v| v }.each_with_object({}) { |(k,v), h| h[v.map(&:first).join(', ')] = k }
<shebang> ^ I used that, and yes it does consolidate array values,
<shebang> however it fails to consolidate the keys beneath, if their arrays have equal values.
<balazs_> can somebody explain why the thread that uses a Mutex runs about 100000 times more frequently than the one that does not ? http://pastebin.com/kDDtSUvQ
<ruboto> balazs_, we in #ruby do not like pastebin.com, I reposted your paste to gist for you: https://gist.github.com/dca791109f5806e61856
<ruboto> pastebin.com loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting.
<balazs_> sorry, did not know
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<shebang> hey on a side note does ruby support tail recursion?
<shebang> I think I might be able to use that, crazy idea but it's better than nothing
<balazs_> is Mutex.synchronize that much more efficient than puts ?
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<jhass> shebang: sort off, http://nithinbekal.com/posts/ruby-tco/
<jhass> not in practice since it's off by default
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<prefixed> found something new. why hasn't the ruby community adopted a single documentation standard? rdoc seemed like a fantastic standard, yet matz & friends torpedoed it
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<apeiros> they did?
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<prefixed> sec. i am looking for ht elink
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<eam> are we celebrating festivus?
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<apeiros> ¿que?
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<eam> this means next up is the feats of strength, yay
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<imperator> it's not until december 23rd, isn't it?
<eam> as soon as prefixed is done, I mean
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<eam> imperator: I guess it's some unorthodox practice
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<apeiros> I see
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<imperator> lol, it's from Seinfeld
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<shevy> xmas release \o/
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* slash_nick <3 festivus
<prefixed> ok. i take that back for now. I was loking for a documentation standard the other day, and i could have sworn it was rdoc that got deprecated because the main ruby devs didn't like it
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<cantaberry> I'm using a fail as the else in a case statement. I don't really have an if condision for the fail. How do I call? rubocop keeps dying on the lack of the fail if test.
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<havenn> Cantaberry: Gist the code and the error when rubocop fails?
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<prefixed> ah yes. it was rubyspec
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<shevy> if (true)
<havenn> prefixed: RubySpec decided to move the project into Rubinius proper and Ruby core forked it for MRI use.
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<shevy> Cantaberry actually, can you try on a simple test-case when menu? perhaps rubocop always fails when fail() is used in case/when, then it's a bug in rubocop clearly
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<apeiros> Cantaberry: it complains about your if, not about your case/when
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<apeiros> the `if (true)` is pointless. you can just leave it away.
<cantaberry> Right. It's the fail. If I 'don't put an if, it complains, but it won't let me put an always true like 1 or ture.
<apeiros> what does it complain about without the `if`?
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<apeiros> Cantaberry: btw., you can add multiple files to a single gist. no need to make multiple gists.
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<cantaberry> It's making a liar out of me.
<cantaberry> Looks like it worked that time.
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<cantaberry> Prior it was. Oh. Failing on trailing whitespace.
<cantaberry> Sorry.
<cantaberry> Oye.
<cantaberry> Rubocop is killing me today.
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<shevy> the fail was on whitespace, not on the fail() fail?
<shevy> trailing whitespace warnings is one of the most useful warnings for me with rubocop :)
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<shevy> very uncontroversial compared to other warnings
<yxhuvud> shevy: I've told my emacs to remove them on save, as well as display them in a very obvious red color
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<shevy> cool, I should use a better editor than notepad one day!
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<N3sh108> I am going crazy with this stuff!
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<N3sh108> So, I am fetching some data with Mechanize and that works great. I 'puts' it and everything looks fine. When I add it to a SQL query, it gets all messed up
<N3sh108> For some reason, it doesn't do the shit properly
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<BraddPitt> N3sh108 please post some example code with input, actual output and expected output
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<N3sh108> ok BraddPitt
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<shevy> So here is a regex http://rubular.com/r/zsUM7NpCYx - I do not entirely understand the real meaning of (.*?), does the ? make only the * before it optional, or both the .* part?
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<hal_9000_> ? doesn’t mean optional in that context
<hal_9000_> it means non-greedy, i think
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<shevy> ah ok
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<N3sh108> Here you go BraddPitt: http://pastebin.com/PwLH63E3
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<ruboto> N3sh108, we in #ruby do not like pastebin.com, it loads slowly for most, has ads which are distracting and has terrible formatting. Please use https://gist.github.com
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<hal_9000_> lol @ r u b o t o
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<N3sh108> hal_9000!
<N3sh108> I think I remember you from somewhere long long ago
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<hal_9000_> N3sh108: in real life or what?
<N3sh108> you were cool as fuck, I don't know why I remember that
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<N3sh108> from some other IRC channel
<N3sh108> [no stalker, don't worry]
<ged> Because he is!
<hal_9000_> lolz
<ged> <3 hal9k
<ged> :P
<N3sh108> have you been around long?
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<hal_9000_> trying to remember what other channels i’ve been in
<N3sh108> if so, did you have any channels you hung around often?
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<hal_9000_> started maybe 8 yrs ago but with long hiatuses (hiati?)
<N3sh108> [hiatuses is probably fine]
<hal_9000_> N3sh108: my main interests are ruby and space-related (on IRC anyway)
<hal_9000_> and lojban i guess
<N3sh108> mmm, I spent a lot of time in here for erlang
<N3sh108> and mmm
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<hal_9000_> i can barely read erlang :)
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<N3sh108> dunno then, hi anyway! :D
<shevy> poor hal gets stalked
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<hal_9000_> it’s possible it was someone else - there is a hal9000 with no unerscore after the L :)
<ged> Hahaha
<N3sh108> Anyway, as extension to my question: does puts do anything special to whatever it outputs?
<hal_9000_> hey I’d 10x rather be stalked than ignored
<N3sh108> maybe! :D
<shevy> N3sh108 yes - it ignores one trailing newline
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<N3sh108> oh ok
<hal_9000_> it also adds one if needed
<N3sh108> so maybe I should remove it
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<shevy> print is the raw hero of every untold story
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<hal_9000_> if you *want* multple newlnes, just make sure there is a non-newline at the end: puts “like this\n\n\n “
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<hal_9000_> that would print 5 lines if i cont correctly
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<hal_9000_> *count
<shevy> hmmmm
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<hal_9000_> our 4 i guess
<hal_9000_> *or
<hal_9000_> me type pretty one day
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<shevy> well the world won't collapse either way, be it 5, 4 or 3 lines
<hal_9000_> N3sh108: are you ever in #elixir-lang btw?
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<hal_9000_> shevy: i suppose eventually the world *will* collapse ;)
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<N3sh108> no never :P
<N3sh108> hal_9000
<N3sh108> arggg, what's wrong with this shtttt
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<hal_9000_> I recommend you look into elixir if you like ruby and erlang
<N3sh108> ok :D
<N3sh108> anyway, I tried the unsung raw hero
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<N3sh108> and prints doesn't print anything
<N3sh108> but puts does
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<N3sh108> wtf
<N3sh108> print}
<hal_9000_> are you printing to STDOUT?
<N3sh108> just 'print time'
<N3sh108> and 'puts time'
<hal_9000_> two ways to fix
<hal_9000_> either do STDOUT.flush after a print
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<hal_9000_> or else do STDOUT.sync = true just once at beginning
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<hal_9000_> terminal output is buffered until there is a newline or a flush operation
<N3sh108> ok
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<N3sh108> I don't get why this doesn't work though
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<N3sh108> the query works
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<N3sh108> puts writes the right stuff
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<N3sh108> it should be simple!
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<hal_9000_> you could also use a puts after your print
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<N3sh108> is there something that a print cannot print and puts can?
<N3sh108> maybe that's what is screwing up my query
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<N3sh108> some invisible char maybe
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<hal_9000_> can you show your code in a gist or something?
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<N3sh108> please be good with be ruboto: http://pastebin.com/PwLH63E3
<ruboto> N3sh108, as I told you already, please use https://gist.github.com
<hal_9000_> probably simpler than any invisible char
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<N3sh108> here you go
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<hal_9000_> seems straightforward. did you understand what i said a few min ago?
<N3sh108> you said stuff
<N3sh108> the trailing \n ?
<hal_9000_> try this: change every puts to a print; add an “empty” puts afterward - what does that give you?
<shevy> there will be at least one when you use puts
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<N3sh108> Ok, it works now
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<N3sh108> but I get really different stuff
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<shevy> the fate of the unlucky - always having problems
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<N3sh108> it makes absolutely no sense to me
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<eam> N3sh108: run your script like ./arggggg.rb | xxd -- and put that output in a gist
<hal_9000_> i think i see what is happening :)
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<hal_9000_> N3sh108: do you know how to interpolate variables in a string?
<N3sh108> I tried "string" + <var> + "rest"
<hal_9000_> try this:
<N3sh108> and "string #{var} rest"
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<hal_9000_> puts “Dest: #{dest}, Time: #{time}, Price: #{price}”
<eam> N3sh108: you have \r mixed in your strings
<eam> pipe it through xxd or od
<eam> show us that output please
<N3sh108> argg
<N3sh108> ok
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<eam> you can tell because the last price is left justified
<shevy> ohhh \r
<shevy> these are nasty
<eam> which means it's something like price = "\r13.00"
<shevy> but when you run ruby with warning, it will tell you when you have \r embedded
<eam> when in doubt, xxd it out
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<eam> Never Trust A Terminal
<N3sh108> xxd says nothing though
<eam> no output at all?
<N3sh108> ruby checker.rb | xxd --
<N3sh108> nada for now
<eam> no --
<eam> just |xxd
<eam> sorry
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<N3sh108> got crazy stuff for a bit
<eam> gist it?
<eam> the whole thing, including the command if you please
<N3sh108> command?
<eam> you ran ./argggg.rb | xxd, right? Copy the command *and* the output into the gist so we can see exactly what you see
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<N3sh108> well my actual script is much longer
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<N3sh108> but what you see is pretty much the important bits
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<N3sh108> but if the problem is '\r' can't I just use gsub("\r","") ?
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<eam> N3sh108: see the "0a0d" before the 13.00 on line 0000050 ?
<eam> N3sh108: yes, you can gsub out \r
<N3sh108> cool
<eam> N3sh108: xxd shows you the actual text on the left hand side and the ascii values (including values for unprintables) on the righthand side
<eam> it's very useful if you need to examine control characters like this
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<N3sh108> yeah, it's very cool :D
<N3sh108> that fixed already quite a bit of problems!
<N3sh108> Thanks :D
<eam> as xxd shows, the text really is being printed -- it's just that the \r is left justifying the cursor and subsequent text overwrites
<eam> np!
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<shevy> eam knows the arcane unix commands that everyone has long forgotten
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<eam> shevy: you should join my arcane unix stuff group
<eam> I did a bit on terminals to kick it off
<eam> the history of ascii and control characters is fascinating
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<N3sh108> yay fixed
<N3sh108> thanks guys :D
<baweaver> eam is working on his gray beard
<eam> it's coming in pretty fast =/
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<shevy> :(
<shevy> full body beard
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<shevy> the older we get, the more closely we approach our furry ancestors - if only they would have been programming already
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<arup_r> >> {}.delete('a') # don't blows up. It is very good for me
<ruboto> arup_r # => nil (https://eval.in/445813)
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<BraddPitt> is chaining blocks not ruby-like?
<BraddPitt> for example i did this
<BraddPitt> modules .select { |k,_| should_install?(k) } .each { |k,v| puts "Installing module: #{k}"; v.call }
<Aria> That's like every bit of ruby I've ever written
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<BraddPitt> mmk
<BraddPitt> cool
<BraddPitt> thanks
<baweaver> except the select doesn't really seem necessary for that one.
<BraddPitt> i suppose i dont need it
<baweaver> no sense in looping more than you have to.
<BraddPitt> yeah
<baweaver> it's perfectly fine ruby to chain blocks, just make sure you actually need to.
<balazs_> Is it possible that curl and backticks are the fastest way to download content from the web ? It's faster than net/http or open-uri for me.
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<shevy> perhaps curl itself is superfast
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<darix> balazs_: depends on what you want to do.
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<darix> also there are curl bindings
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<shevy> they may be slower :D
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<balazs_> darix: just downloading a static page from localhost in parallel
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<darix> balazs_: there are so many reasons why forking out curl a few time can be faster than plain net/http within ruby
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<darix> e.g. how did you do parallel downloading in ruby?
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<balazs_> I created 100 threads
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<adaedra> here it is
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<shevy> what has `derpy been doing again
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<adaedra> it was on the other side of the netsplit
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<shevy> ah
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<shevy> so he is doing his splits again
<drbrain> balazs_: using net-http to download to a string is not the best way to download large files
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<balazs_> drbrain: what is the best/fastest way ?
<adaedra> shevy: :D
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<`derpy> "he" :'(
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<jhass> "heroic entity"
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<`derpy> :')
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<drbrain> balazs_: 1) use persistent connections 2) download using block-form for large files (100K+ or so)
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<drbrain> for persistent connections, call #start before using any request methods
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<ruby_trap> hi
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<havenwood> ruby_trap: hi
<ruby_trap> need help in one code
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<ruby_trap> actually concept
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<ruby_trap> unicorn is getting killed with sigquit
<ruby_trap> i guess its the master cuz its not respawning
<ruby_trap> and server gets stuck
<ruby_trap> i do have unicorn-worker-killer
<ruby_trap> but what to do with master
<ruby_trap> any way to restart it?
<ruby_trap> automatically
<ruby_trap> ?
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<shevy> sometimes I wonder if these questions are copy/pasted from some stackoverflow question
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<shevy> brb
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<sp_> I feel the exact same way.
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<adaedra> Too much activity in here.
<craysiii> can you stop spamming! i can't read all the messages
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<Radar> RIP ruby
<Radar> all hail Elixir, our new king! :D
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<adaedra> I thought it was crystal
<Radar> DEATH TO JAVASCRIPT
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<adaedra> Sorry, didn't catch that, it seems it has been lost in a callback.
<havenn> adaedra: undefined
<adaedra> But is it a function ?
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<havenn> adaedra: hah ;)
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<shevy> will it blend?
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<slash_nick> is it an animal?
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<pipework> Is it a mineral?
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<slash_nick> does it quack like a duck?
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<cantaberry> I'm trying to set up scp from one machine to another. I have an idea for how to move the public key for scp, but how do I get the new machine's machine key into the know_hosts on the source (from which the user's public key came from)?
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<cantaberry> Sorry. Wrong channel.
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<slash_nick> Cantaberry: that's okay we were just playing 21 questions...
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<adaedra> Only 17 left
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<slash_nick> does it contain the string "pear"?
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<slash_nick> and if so, is it a pear?
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<shevy> I have a string with a "bear" here, does that count?
<shevy> ack
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<shevy> will ruby prevail?
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<shevy> Larry said "42 is a very important number"
<adaedra> perl is perl and ruby is ruby.
<shevy> ok
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<shevy> and adaedra is undeadra
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<baweaver> congrats on the new nickname, our zombie overlord
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* adaedra braaaaaiiiiiins
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<baweaver> why isn't there an Array#=== ?
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<baweaver> >> class Array;def ===(o) self.include?(o) end end; [1,2,3] === 1
<ruboto> baweaver # => true (https://eval.in/445925)
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<baweaver> Hash I could see as that'd be more ambiguous
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<baweaver> >> class Hash;def ===(o) self.key?(o) end end; {a: 1, b: 2} === :a
<ruboto> baweaver # => true (https://eval.in/445926)
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