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<jackcom>
ruby have concept of nested function?
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<jackcom>
hello
<jackcom>
:)
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<hdm>
anyone remember off-hand how to check the class name of a VALUE in an extension? strcmp("Something::Something", rb_class_name(some_obj)) == 0 seems like the wrong approach
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<rubybaby>
that's cool
<hdm>
RCLASS(obj) == RCLASS(class_val) my grep foo is failing
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<HarryKuntz>
how is ruby used besides rails?
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<ja>
for whatever you'd like, HarryKuntz
<ja>
a lot of people use it for scripting things
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<ja>
for the same things you'd use Perl or shell scripting, for instance
<ja>
+for
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<HarryKuntz>
but aren't rails apps technically scripts?
<ja>
HarryKuntz: quoting Wikipedia: “The term "scripting language" is also used loosely to refer to dynamic high-level general-purpose language, such as Perl,[1] Tcl, and Python,[2] with the term "script" often used for small programs (up to a few thousand lines of code) in such languages”
<ja>
“small programs”
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<ja>
so that depends on your definition, but yes, Ruby is definitely a dynamic high-level general-purpose language
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<Yzguy>
anyone have experience with the inifile gem?
<xybre>
If you squint so is Java.
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<HarryKuntz>
so is c but nobody uses c anymore
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<xybre>
C doesn't qualify because it's low lvel, not dynamic, and compiled.
<ja>
what xybre said
<Radar>
HarryKuntz: Please change your name.
<HarryKuntz>
Radar: are we not allowed to use our real names?
<Yzguy>
When using the inifile gem, when you do like ini.write, it writes out the file, but all the comments in the original file are gone
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<Yzguy>
so i'm just playing with it, but so the "original" is the actual file, the new one is what the output is after doing that ini.write
<Yzguy>
all the comments go away, curious if there is a way to keep the comments
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<Yzguy>
oh i think i see the solution
<Yzguy>
on the initialize you can say :comment = "#", and i think it should recognize it
<ja>
Yzguy: “Comment lines are ignored when parsing INI files.” — I’m not sure, but it could sound like comments aren’t even parsed and therefore cannot be written out again.
<Yzguy>
yeah thats what i thought, lemme try this comment param real quick
<Radar>
!ban HarryKuntz !T 1d
<ja>
Spoiler: It won’t work. Sorry.
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<Radar>
!ban HarryKuntz !T 1D
<Radar>
Ruboto is offline. Sad.
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<xybre>
Yzguy: yep, and you can even parameterize the filename if you end up wanting to reuse the same pattern for other files.
<Yzguy>
I just did my :wq on doing that exactly :P
<ja>
Really? I'm so anti-hip I haven't even noticed. Imma start using it now though.
<xybre>
Yzguy: :D
* xybre
variablizes ja
<Yzguy>
"Yeahhh, this is all wrong. You gotta variablize everything....here, here, definitely here. Are you sure you're a developer?"
* xybre
class variablizes @@Yzguy
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* ja
constantizes xybre
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<Xybre>
D:
<Xybre>
Ech, looks weird capitalized.
<ja>
hahaha
<ja>
sorry, xybre
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<ja>
it should've been all caps, xybre ʘ‿ʘ
<xybre>
Technically, anything starting with a capital is a constant in Ruby, like class names and modules.
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<jackcom>
ruby have a concept of nested function?
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<Radar>
no jackcom
<jackcom>
Radar: no :(
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<Radar>
jackcom: Why so depressed about it?
<jackcom>
nested function is very good
<jackcom>
why ruby don’t have it?
<Radar>
I honestly can't tell if you trolling or not.
<Radar>
Explain why you think you need it.
<jackcom>
because it is good for frame work.
<jackcom>
Radar:
<Radar>
jackcom: Ok, definitely trolling. You're doing a crap job of explaining yourself.
<Radar>
Rails does fine without nested functions.
<blubjr>
in ruby, i think you just use private methods jackcom
<jackcom>
lol i m not troll
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<jackcom>
private method?
<jackcom>
i don’t know private method?
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<Radar>
blubjr: what
<Radar>
jackcom: What is the purpose of a nested function? Explain IN CODE why you would want a nested function?
<blubjr>
as the solution of helper functions not polluting your namespace
<blubjr>
implementation hiding
<jackcom>
Radar: i can’t explain it because it is too complicated.
* Radar
literally can't even.
<Radar>
jackcom: Ok, definitely convinced you're a troll now. Putting you on ignore/
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<jackcom>
no
<jackcom>
i m innocent and kind
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<blubjr>
radar: am i confused about something
<Radar>
Sure you are.
<blubjr>
what..
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<Radar>
blubjr: "I am confused about something" "Yes, that is likely" "???"
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<Radar>
DOUBLE CONFUSIN
<Radar>
I also appreciate that you pinged me just to tell me that you're confused about something without actually telling me about the thing that you're confused with.
<Radar>
Almost like that you don't care that I have Real Work(tm) to be doing instead?
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<jackcom>
Radar: you can hear my saying?
<blubjr>
i was asking if i was....you didnt like my first answer and you didn't acknowledge my second
<blubjr>
i thought maybe i misunderstood what you were talking about or something
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<blubjr>
Radar: was there a problem with my answer, i thought it was pretty straight forward
<Radar>
blubjr: Yes. I don't understand what helper methods have to do with nested functions at all.
<Radar>
private methods are something completely different to what jackcom is asking for
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<blubjr>
Radar: in languages that have nested functions thats normally where you put them, inside the function they're helping
<jackcom>
yes right private method != nested function.
<Radar>
Ok, I misunderstood.
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<Radar>
(This is why I emphasise that people should show code)
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<Guest47729>
Radar, jackcom : Ruby can achieve nested functions by the use of blocks/lambdas/procs. If you assign the proc to a variable it can be called. Sure the syntax isn't quite the same, but it effectively achieves the same result. Ruby is flexible and can probably do a lot more that you can't in other languages. Perhaps I am misunderstanding what you are trying to achieve, but I feel that this is a version of what you are looking for - perhaps
<Guest47729>
there is a better way to solve the problem
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<shevy>
Guest47729 hey what IRC nick is that
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shevy: am tjad, but ns doesn't want me back yet :-(
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^^
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yay you abandoned the army of guests \o/
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<norc>
So. Is there a more elegant way to do this?
<norc>
self.sequence_name = opts[Rails.env.to_sym] if opts[Rails.env.to_sym]
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<apeiros>
just `self.sequence_name = opts[Rails.env.to_sym]`, assuming self.sequence_name is nil before and setting it to nil again won't hurt.
<apeiros>
WHITEPRIDE: 30s to change your nick
<apeiros>
!ban WHITEPRIDE !P unacceptable nick
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<WHITEPRIDE>
hello?
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<apeiros>
damn netsplit. ruboto of course is on the other side.
<apeiros>
and slow chanserve
<apeiros>
-e
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<adaedra>
Bonjour
<apeiros>
moin adaedra
<apeiros>
oh
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<adaedra>
That's a nice hat you have.
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<apeiros>
*had
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<apeiros>
netsplits. and it seems ruboto is still stuck on the other side.
<adaedra>
FreeNode's still having splits? Not good.
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<cyberfawkes>
adaedra: that's quite odd.
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<cyberfawkes>
we were talking about that earlier.
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<adaedra>
.... and parts.
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<adaedra>
apeiros: do you know on which server ruboto is connected on?
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<driftig>
shevy: Golly, no. :)
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<Andrevan>
Hey, anyone want to take a crack at a VCR question? Trying to connect to an XMPP server running locally using the xmpp4r gem. Under the hood appears to be Net::HTTP but VCR won't pick it up in rspec
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<tobiasvl>
arup_r: page not found, but you can use something like the gem Rubyworks Facets, which has a deep_clone method. or you can dup each member yourself and save.
<ytti>
not thrilled about API though, but features are good
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<ytti>
particularly concept of 'any' and 'all'
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<ytti>
https://github.com/wuest/expectr - this seems to miss ability to wait more than 1 string and act differently depending on what occurred
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<apeiros>
ytti: there's an expect library in stdlib
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<ytti>
yeah but it also does not support expecting >1 string
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<apeiros>
>1 string? you mean multiple responses?
<apeiros>
ah
<apeiros>
well, I guess that's what is assumed that you'll add via code? :)
<apeiros>
shouldn't be difficult…
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<apeiros>
(though, then again, I guess I'd not even use a library for something like what expect does…)
<norc>
I actually wonder how you typed that hellip.
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<apeiros>
opt-.
<norc>
Things I learn. o_o
<apeiros>
dad's in publishing. gotta now such shit ;-)
<norc>
Heh.
<apeiros>
"how dare you write three dots! don't you know that spacing is completely off with those?!?"
<apeiros>
(not really)
<pontiki>
last expect script i wrote in tcl...
<apeiros>
oy
<apeiros>
o/ pontiki
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<shevy>
good old tcl
<shevy>
the language of the dinosaurs!
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<ytti>
apeiros, actually if the API Doesn't allow it, it gets complicated
<ytti>
apeiros, you have to trap the timout, and it'll make your program run slower
<ytti>
apeiros, you need to offer this feature in the library itself to make it work well
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<driftig>
./ seems so much more appropriate than o/
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<shevy>
do you have a mini head or something
<shevy>
we don't get to do O/ either!
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<driftig>
shevy: Like I'd literally wave at you niggaz.
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<driftig>
shevy: Only Marc Andreesen gets to do that.
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<apeiros>
!kick driftig watch it
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<driftig>
apeiros: The hell.
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<apeiros>
yeah, that's what I thought too.
<shevy>
yeah the word was a dead-give away
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<driftig>
Well, I'm black.
<driftig>
And it wasn't intended to cause harm …
<driftig>
Next time I'll just say Rubyists.
<apeiros>
good. I trust it'll remain at a kick then.
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* driftig
eyes apeiros.
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<yorickpeterse>
driftig: being black doesn't give you an excuse to use "niggaz" or any other slang
* apeiros
was about to write:
<apeiros>
> while "I'm black, therefore I can say niggaz" may work well in meatspace, it doesn't in irc. even if I knew you're black I couldn't tolerate it.
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<driftig>
apeiros: I could keybase.io prove it!
<apeiros>
you're missing the point
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<driftig>
apeiros: But the point is, I don't understand why it's such a burdened topic.
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<apeiros>
in meatspace, all people have to do is look at you.
<apeiros>
in irc, that simply doesn't work.
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<driftig>
I know that there's a certain random person who joins with the n*g*e* handle, jumbled up in some sort of way.
<driftig>
Without even a chance to contribute they're auto-banned.
<apeiros>
if you wish to discuss it: #ruby-banned is the place. this isn't.
<driftig>
Even Obama used it.
<driftig>
apeiros: Fine, fine.
* driftig
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<apeiros>
or #ruby-community, if you want to have a go at the policies.
<driftig>
apeiros: only if you're in there <3
<apeiros>
I'm in all of them.
<driftig>
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<shevy>
apeiros is in ALL THE CHANNELS
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<apeiros>
only some ~20
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<driftig>
How does one focus on life whilst being in 20 channels?
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<driftig>
Once I connect to IRC, I have to cycle /window next until sessions are cleared.
<apeiros>
but the 20 channels are life…
<apeiros>
irc mostly fills the idle cycles of my meatcpu
<driftig>
i want the dell xps 15
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<driftig>
but i have some custom design ideas i'd like dell to implement first beforehand
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<driftig>
like the webcam, it needs to be in the centre of the screen.
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<driftig>
sigh, good systems are so hard to find
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<pontiki>
one needs must have something to do while $compiling
<driftig>
get with the times, amazonaws compilations, local binary installations
<driftig>
save your SSD
<pontiki>
some things still take time. in many cases, it's paint drying for me
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<driftig>
we love watching warning flags fire off the screen
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<havenwood>
good mornin'
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<driftig>
havenwood: related to morningwood?
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<centrx>
Sick joke
<driftig>
centrx: not really.
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<pontiki>
havenwood: thanks for the regexp the other day
<driftig>
morningwood is a real handle.
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<driftig>
guess he left irc.
<driftig>
nice guy...
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<gregf__>
>> char_weight = [*?a..?z].zip([*1..26]).to_h;%w{knowledge hardwork attitude}.each{ |w| p [w, w.chars.inject(0){ |s, c| s+=char_weight[c] }] } # for a moment i thought this couldn't true, but it apparently is
<new_student>
This error does not arise if I use the same command inside cygwin
<gregf__>
*be
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<pontiki>
new_student: this seems like the classic problem with windows and using rubygems. let me see if i can find the fix for it
<havenwood>
pontiki: You're welcome! You sparked my interest to write a script to automatically create a Regexp that matches a number range from zero to x. (Still working on it.)
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<apeiros>
pontiki: still quite buggy :(
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<shevy>
thouh shalt love thy bugs!
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<driftig>
shevy: Do you drive a chevrolet?
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<droptone>
Here's possibly a simple question: I have a .each loop and, based on a condition, I want to do either arr["a"].each do... or arr["b"].each do....
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<droptone>
Is it possible to put that within an if? Such as, if this > 1; arr["aa"].each do |a|; else; arr["bb"].each do |b|; end
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<droptone>
Or do I have to put both .each loops in seperate sections of the if condition, replicating all that code?
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<jhass>
droptone: arr[this > 1 ? "a" : "b"].each do
<apeiros>
nested methods would sometimes be nice…
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<apeiros>
nested = ->(){}; nested.() is somehow less nice.
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<jhass>
or to_iterate = this > 1 ? arr["a"] : arr["b"]; to_iterate.each if you prefer. Or key = this > 1 "a" : "b"; arr[key].each
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<droptone>
jhass: wonderful, thank you.
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<gregf__>
>> this=[0,1]; a,b= 0,1; arr = [[1,2,3],[4,5,6]]; this.each{ |i| p arr[i.zero? ? a : b ].select(&:even?) }
<apeiros>
and I'm pretty sure this could be simplified. at least I'm quite sure my old solution was ~20 lines, not ~50 (+ the quantifier/charclass methods)
* apeiros
afk
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ta
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<gregf__>
apeiros: is that like (0..10).to_regex?
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<shevy>
driftig I always get that too! or chevy chase or something
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<tuelz>
how do I use send with the append operator?
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<tuelz>
Instance.instance_method_that_returns_an_array << object is what I'm trying to achieve, but the Instance is of a variable class
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<tuelz>
nevermind, I just had a typo
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<Luyin>
hi, I'm setting up redmine on my computer. while installing some gems, I got this message: "rdoc's executable "rdoc" conflicts with /usr/bin/rdoc | Overwrite the executable? [yN]" is it save to say yes?
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<jhass>
I wouldn't overwrite it
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<Luyin>
jhass can you tell me why, or is it just general caution?
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<jhass>
your /usr/bin/rdoc probably comes from a package of your distribution
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<jhass>
I would always prefer files from packages over untracked things installing files to the global system
<Luyin>
okay, thanks
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<norc>
Just started booting my first real gem, and was wondering about best practicing about loading the files inside.
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<jhass>
I've seen two schools, have all requires in alphabetical (or the right order when there are interdependencies) in the main entry point of your gem, or have each file repeat each require it depends on at the top
<jhass>
personally I prefer the second approach
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<jhass>
well, some also autoload or even Dir[...] { require ... }
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<norc>
jhass: Mhm. That second approach has that neat effect that you can also require parts of the gems without potentially polluting namespaces (or possibly spend much time booting larger classes)
<norc>
So it doesn't sound too bad
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<jhass>
yeah
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<pontiki>
i prefer to put requires where used
<pontiki>
even if they're used in multiple classes
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<SUPERN1GG3R>
freenode is experiencing ddos attacks because of the uptight cunts in the #ruby channel
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<jhass>
!ban SUPERN1GG3R !T 1w then leave
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<snockerton>
lawl
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<Andrevan>
Hey, anyone want to take a crack at a VCR question? Trying to connect to an XMPP server running locally using the xmpp4r gem. Under the hood appears to be Net::HTTP but VCR won't pick it up in rspec
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<jhass>
wat?
<jhass>
xmpp4r is using BOSH or what? that would be really odd
<norc>
Okay... so apparently HighLine doesn't let me validate against q.in = (0..(1.0/0.0)) easily :<
<Andrevan>
jhass: xmpp4r has an HTTP Bind client
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<jhass>
and you're sure you're using it? (and why are you anyway?)
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<Andrevan>
jhass: I'm only using the HTTP Bind client in the test case because I want to use VCR to record the ejabberd server so it doesn't need to be running when I run my build.
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<kollapse>
Hi. I'm setting terminal titles using print "\x1b]2;TITLE_HERE\x07" in ruby but the title stays the safe after the script execution. I actually have to press Enter or Ctrl+C to reset the title. What can I issue inside ruby to ensure that the title gets reset correctly upon termination ?
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<jhass>
Andrevan: I'm not sure that's a good approach in the first place. The edge case behavior of both might very well differ, leading to bugs in the real code you don't discover in your specs or vice versa
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<Andrevan>
jhass: Not sure what you mean, but it's a perfectly fine approach in my book. VCR records the behavior of the server. I write an integration test that exercises the various routines, e.g. register, join a chat, receive a message. Then VCR records the HTTP responses and I can run against the fixtured data instead of the live server.
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<Andrevan>
jhass: ejabberd is a mature server program and it's unlikely to change, but I don't want to have a dependency on running it for CI, etc.
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<jhass>
Andrevan: except that for the real server you use another underlying protocol essentially
<Andrevan>
jhass: the alternative is stubbing out the responses from the client wrapper, but that makes the test brittle and dependent on the order I call it in implementation.
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<Andrevan>
jhass: xmpp4r has a drop in HTTP replacement for the XMPP client
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<jhass>
Andrevan: yes, but you don't want to stub your calls to xmpp4r, meaning you want to do integration tests including what xmpp4r does for you. So you don't actually test what you use in production
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<Andrevan>
jhass: I want to use VCR to record production jabber data that I will hit with Jabber::HTTPBinding::Client. In real life it uses Jabber::Client, but the code is the same and the interface is the same. I can refactor the xmpp4r code and it will still hit the same fixtured test VCR data
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<Andrevan>
jhass: if I stub the calls to Jabber::Client I need to assert that all of the test doubles behave a certain way in a certain order, and if I refactor the implementation I need to rewrite the stubs
<jhass>
you're just repeating what you said previously completely ignoring my point, I see no further point in this conversation
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<Andrevan>
jhass: hmm, I thought I was explaining myself. I asked for help with a technical problem - VCR doesn't intercept the Net::HTTP call in Jabber::HTTPBinidng::Client. I didn't really need a design critique of my decision here since that part is not going to change -- I just don't understand why VCR can't see the Net::HTTP call
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<jhass>
and I replied with why I think that you waste effort in even trying to make it work, whatever the issue is
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<Andrevan>
jhass: fair, but I don't agree. If you're interested in trying to debug the technical problem we can keep talking.
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<Andrevan>
jhass: I would rather have a test that exercises the implementation more or less fully with the exception of the drop-in HTTP adapter, than one that exercises no part of the underlying implementation because it's all stubs
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<Andrevan>
jhass: think of it like using headless Capybara instead of Chrome. THe server on the other side is the same but we talk to it in a different way in test. It's still the difference between an integration test and a stubbed out unit test
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<Andrevan>
jhass: the larger issue is that VCR usually just automagically picks up all Net::HTTP calls. I know it's set up because if I make a get to google.com that gets picked up, but the call inside xmpp4r is ignored
<jhass>
Andrevan: if you ever tried to port say a selenium backed project to poltergeist, you would know exactly what I mean
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<jhass>
the edge case behavior is so different, and it's not even close to being as different in the backend implementation
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<jhass>
anyway, as said I see no real point in continuing that discussion
<Andrevan>
jhass: I've worked on projects that used selenium, poltergeist, capybara-webkit, cucumber, etc. The browser drivers do behave differently, but there's still value in them.
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<Andrevan>
jhass: The solution is probably to use a custom test proxy like puffing-billy, but before I bite that bullet I was going to try to get VCR to work.
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<Andrevan>
jhass: the behavior of the xmpp4r HTTP version versus the XMPP is actually more or less the same. The HTTP one is a little better for test cases because it returns things like status codes, so it's more Rails controller-y f
<axsuul>
If i'm simply just trying to require 'logger' but it says cannot be found, is there something wrong with my ruby installation?
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<jhass>
axsuul: maybe, how did you install it?
<axsuul>
it just randomly happened
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<axsuul>
using rbenv
<nofxx>
How to group a flattened array into groups of X items?
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<jhass>
nofxx: each_slice
<nofxx>
jhass, ty!
<jhass>
axsuul: huh? you mean you can no longer reproduce it?
<axsuul>
means i never had this issue before today
<axsuul>
didnt mess with ruby installation
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<jhass>
axsuul: don't use Ruby, so no idea where the install base is, but check lib/ruby/2.2.0/logger.rb is still a thing?
<jhass>
any other stdlib requires failing?
<jhass>
er, don't use rbenv I mean
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<norc>
Is there an elegant way to overwrite a string A with a smaller string B, starting at index n of A?
<norc>
Just can't find a way without using B.length
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<norc>
DOH.
<norc>
Nevermind.
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<VeryBewitching>
One thing I would like to mention before we continue talking about this, I have no experience but bad ones running Ruby on the Windows OS
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<VeryBewitching>
Others may be running it successfully, but I have as of yet to know anything but pain trying.
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<new_student>
VeryBewitching: I am stuck at the very first stage
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<new_student>
The strange thing is, if I use cygwin, it doesn't cry
<VeryBewitching>
Yes, cygwin provides it's own C library environment.
<new_student>
Specifically, which C library would ruby be referring to
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<VeryBewitching>
Well, if you're running a Windows binary of Ruby, it's linked against the Windows MS provided C library.
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<VeryBewitching>
Under cygwin, it's GNU libc
<havenwood>
new_student: RubyGems doesn't respond to ICMP echo requests so it's not pingable.
<new_student>
havenwood: that is not the issue. I pinged just to show you that my DNS servers are functioning fine but ruby is not able to resolve rubygems.org
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<VeryBewitching>
new_student: Use nslookup
<new_student>
VeryBewitching: nslookup succeeds too
<norc>
new_student: Have you wiresharked it yet?
<havenwood>
new_student: What version of RubyGems?: gem -v
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<havenwood>
gem -v #=> 2.5.0
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<new_student>
norc: yes, I did, and during the gem command, no DNS requests are being made
<new_student>
havenwood: 2.0.15
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<havenwood>
new_student: Does updating RubyGems itself work?: gem update --system
<havenwood>
new_student: 9Newer Ruby ships with newer RubyGems but you can update it independently.)
<new_student>
havenwood: it just says: Latest version currently installed. Aborting.
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<norc>
new_student: Have you flushed your DNS cache?
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<new_student>
norc: yup, I have
<new_student>
I did ipconfig /flushdns
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<new_student>
dunno if there is any other method
<havenwood>
new_student: Can you switch to Ruby 2.1.7 or do you have to be on 2.0.0?
<havenwood>
new_student: RubyInstaller recommends the 32-bit 2.1.7 for Windows.
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<ecksit>
hi, i have some output and i am looking to see if there is a more effecient way to loop through and construct the desired output. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/91bc550218e0c0c5c508 shows the output i currently have (key to any items in an array) and then the bottom shows the single key to single value i would like
<ecksit>
is there a better way than using two each's?
<new_student>
havenwood: interesetingly, same thing happens with curl inside mingw
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<new_student>
it isn't able to resolv
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<new_student>
So I am guessing it is more of a system/library level issue
<VeryBewitching>
What version of Windows are you on?
<new_student>
But unabe to figure out similarity between curl and HTTP:Net
<new_student>
I am on Win10
<VeryBewitching>
Oh
<new_student>
Inside cygwin, everything works fine
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<new_student>
but again, ruby isn't installed in mingw, so I can't blame mingw guys
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<VeryBewitching>
That's a different environment with cygwin though.
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<new_student>
VeryBewitching: that is exactly what I want to figure out. What is different. And where it is oing wrong
<havenwood>
ecksit: Is that pretty print output of what you have?
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<ecksit>
yes havenwood
<havenwood>
ecksit: Ah, confused me. Heh.
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<ecksit>
sorry, i should have removed a bunch of stuff from it
<ecksit>
ah! i was only passing through the key in the blocks, not the value
<ecksit>
thanks havenwood
<VeryBewitching>
new_student: When you install cygwin, you're essentially installing GNU tools and friends in a non-GNU OS. To get these tools to compile, the cygwin folks had to build the C library on Windows, so anything you build in cygwin is using the C library that cygwin distributes. We have the same library under Linux and things work fine here.
<havenwood>
ecksit: np
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<new_student>
VeryBewitching: so, when it is *not* cygwin, then at what point does it bifurcate and use Windows libraries, say, in the case for Http::Net
<VeryBewitching>
new_student: But Windows itself distributes their version of system libraries. RubyInstaller is installing a ruby that was compiled against Windows libraries.
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<new_student>
Exactly
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<new_student>
So, which Windows Library should I be hunting down?
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<VeryBewitching>
As I mentioned earlier, I don't know much about Windows Ruby, I could never get it to work smoothly. Find out what Net::HTTP uses as a backend and that should give you an idea.
<new_student>
VeryBewitching: I tried that. I got stuck at TCPSocket.open() -> I dont' know what magic happens after this
<norc>
new_student: Meh I think I found the issue.
<new_student>
do share
<new_student>
:)
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<norc>
new_student: What is your Ruby version?
<new_student>
2.0.0p647
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<norc>
new_student: It looks like there may be a bug when cygwin dispatches resolve calls to the windows resolver. May be changes in the Win32 API would have to debug on the target system
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<new_student>
norc: how would you debug that?
<norc>
With a debugger.
<new_student>
I have no experience, but willing to try
<new_student>
which debugger?
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<norc>
I have a possible hotfix for you though
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<norc>
Create a resolv.conf for your cygwin, and it will directly use that nameserver.
<new_student>
norc: I told you before... in cygwin, everything works fine :P
<norc>
new_student: Oh.
<norc>
Native Windows?
<new_student>
yup
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<norc>
new_student: Well, based on the error message the error comes from the Win32 API.
<new_student>
norc: ahh... what is the name of the API
<krajos>
I wish I could hug you all, thanks like always.
<norc>
krajos: Anything except nil and false is true in Ruby.
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<norc>
Even empty strings evaluate to true.
<norc>
>> !!""
<ruboto>
norc # => /tmp/execpad-043163f49aac/source-043163f49aac:2: warning: string literal in condition ...check link for more (https://eval.in/477096)
<blubjr>
heh
<slash_nick>
krajos: the #index method, as in [1,2,3].index(2) returns the index of the element with a value of 2
<norc>
:S
<krajos>
right
<blubjr>
and if x + y = 0, then y = -x
<krajos>
I'm still trying to figure out how it knows that the sum of two numbers in the array sums to zero
<krajos>
AH there it is!
<krajos>
FUck that's beautiful
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<krajos>
thanks
<slash_nick>
krajos: so, we loop through the elements, searching for the index of some el that is ... what blubjr just added :)
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<krajos>
Thank you!!!!!!! I'm off to play around with this.
<krajos>
Thank you all for your help.
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* norc
kicks ruboto
<norc>
How do I turn off your warnings.
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<norc>
>> $VERBOSE = nil; !!""
<ruboto>
norc # => /tmp/execpad-756da95d0c8d/source-756da95d0c8d:2: warning: string literal in condition ...check link for more (https://eval.in/477097)
<krajos>
Hey again, another elementary question: The program should tell me if the number provided is a power of 2. I found a really elegant solution online, but don't understand how it even works. How is the bitwise ampersand working here?! Here's the code: def ispow2(n)
<krajos>
n & (n – 1) == 0
<krajos>
end
<snockerton>
i'm running a sub-script via `backticks` but any puts in the sub-script don't make it to stdout - what am I missing?
<tobiasvl>
krajos: it's called a bitwise and
<tobiasvl>
krajos: the operator
<snockerton>
i tried `$stdout.sync = true`
<krajos>
Yeah, and it works differently depending on context, right?
<adaedra>
krajos: binary & applies the AND binary operation to each couple of numbers on the two operands.
<snockerton>
tobiasvl: sorry wasn't clear, the backticks are actually `ruby myscript.rb`
<csguest>
hey ruby. anyone ever used racket?
<adaedra>
?anyone
<ruboto>
Just ask your question, if anyone has or can, they will respond.
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<csguest>
well if someone has used racket, explaining what I mean will be a lot easier
<krajos>
I see
<tobiasvl>
snockerton: oh ok then. well, if myscript.rb containst $stdout.sync = true
<snockerton>
tobiasvl: within myscript.rb, i have lots of stdout via puts, etc. but when I invoke it this way from the other parent script, nothing makes it to stdout
<tobiasvl>
what will you expect it to puts?
<shevy>
nobody has!
<tobiasvl>
oh ok...
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<csguest>
well
<csguest>
how can I nest an array in an array?
<csguest>
lol
<tobiasvl>
<snockerton> i tried `$stdout.sync = true`
<adaedra>
krajos: so, if you have binary representation of two numbers, first you pad them so they have the same number of digits, then you do the & digit by digit.
<csguest>
I can hash that?
<shevy>
what is this
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<tobiasvl>
csguest: hash that? it is a hash yes
<shevy>
that is not valid ruby code ... what is 2 3
<krajos>
adaedra: I see
<csguest>
its a pair
<new_student>
norc: how did you compute 123 as the return value?
<csguest>
in scheme lisp, etc
<norc>
new_student: No it was just a random example
<norc>
new_student: Windows uses stdcall for all Win32 API functions. Well most.
<tobiasvl>
csguest: I think you want to use a Hash. I'm not sure though.
<norc>
new_student: And stdcall specifies that the return value is placed into EAX.
<shevy>
well { 2 => 3 }
<csguest>
well in english
<krajos>
adaedra: Oh that helped a lot
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<csguest>
I have have a string represent an array of strings within a hash
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<csguest>
that will work? sorry i need to use ruby for a project and never got to fiddle with it / know nothing about it
<ecksit>
has anyone tried storing a regex in a yaml file and using psych?
<krajos>
adaedra: but how does doing that find if the number is a power of two?
<tobiasvl>
csguest: can you show a code example? hard to understand what you're asking here
<csguest>
hmmm
<shevy>
yeah, if with a pair you mean a key-value association, then it would be a hash
<tobiasvl>
csguest: what does your string look like?
<csguest>
i kinda of cant it would look weird to you
<krajos>
adaedra: Your last message made me get what it does, but not how if it's == 0, it is a power of 2
<adaedra>
krajos: powers of two will always be, in binary, a 1 folllowed by 0s. 2^0 => 1, 2^1 => 10, 2^2 => 100, etc.
<csguest>
well i guess it would be like this
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<norc>
new_student: Lets move this into a query?
<csguest>
[ [first [1 2 3] [second [3 4 5]] ]
<new_student>
norc: what do you mean
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<tobiasvl>
csguest: OK. and that's a string? why?
<csguest>
element one is the second array which has two elements
<adaedra>
you need some commas, csguest
<tobiasvl>
csguest: what do you want to do with that string
<krajos>
adaedra: right. also very helpful.
<jackcom>
Class methods do not have access to instance methods or instance variables. However instance methods can access both class methods and class variables. <—— i think that this is wrong?
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<krajos>
adaedra: wow, now I see why this solution is so clever
<csguest>
damnit scheme has ruined my brain
<csguest>
i need to convert a scheme project into another language
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<csguest>
im just essentially rewriting the recursion method and skipping using ruby's paradigm
<csguest>
it's just faster this way
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<shevy>
jackcom you have access to when they are on the right level such as: class Foo; @debug = true; def self.debug?; @debug; end; end; Foo.debug?
<adaedra>
it is indeed.
<tobiasvl>
csguest: seems really fast
<jackcom>
Class methods do not have access to instance methods or instance variables. However instance methods can access both class methods and class variables <— i think that reverse is right?
<tobiasvl>
jackcom: the reverse? how would that be right
<tobiasvl>
csguest: all right, and why do you need to do that in ruby
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<adaedra>
No?
<adaedra>
shevy: class variables => @@
<adaedra>
Why do you say that?
<csguest>
look at the structure
<shevy>
oh damn
<shevy>
attack of the ((
<tobiasvl>
seems like a scheme assignment to me
<krajos>
adaedra: Thanks so much, this was very enlightening.
<jackcom>
Class methods can access to instance methods or instance variables. However instance methods can’t access both class methods and class variables <— i think that this is right
<csguest>
ill just translate instead of figuring out a new way of breaking it up
<tobiasvl>
shevy: don't mock scheme >:o
<csguest>
final project
<shevy>
adaedra I was referring to class methods
<tobiasvl>
csguest: what do you mean? what do you weant to achieve here?
<tobiasvl>
jackcom: WHY do you think that is right?
<shevy>
jackcom now pasted the same sentence 3 times. spam!
<jackcom>
tobiasvl: because in the java language Class methods can access to instance methods or instance variables. However instance methods can’t access both class methods and class variables
<adaedra>
krajos: thanks a lot. I would never have thinked of that, so I have learned something too.
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<adaedra>
jackcom: class methods can't access instance methods.
<shevy>
at least you will make good use of public versus private
<adaedra>
jackcom: This fact would surprise me.
<adaedra>
You need an instance to access instance methods. Since you are, in class methods, in class scope, and not instance scope, you can't access instance methods, lacking an instance.
<csguest>
is recursion in ruby a bad idea
<csguest>
for efficiency lmao
<adaedra>
csguest: no
<csguest>
not for this little program but in general
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<shevy>
efficiency
<BraddPitt>
late response norc but I just was unaware that the ||= could start a multi-line code block
<shevy>
we use ruby to learn basic concepts, then we switch to C!
<BraddPitt>
I'm not really sure why I thought that way, though... Anyways, thank you for the source code explanation!
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<csguest>
hey
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<csguest>
is a global variable just not inside of function
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<csguest>
lol
<csguest>
var = 10
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<jackcom>
class method —> instant, class, instance method ——> instance only in java
<tobiasvl>
csguest: no
<csguest>
thats it?
<shevy>
that is a local variable
<norc>
BraddPitt: Yup, as you can see you can have any kind of expression after that.
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<csguest>
youre insane ruby
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<shevy>
if you put this in file foo.rb and require it, you could not access var
<norc>
BraddPitt: In fact you can have begin; rescue; end blocks in a lot of places
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<csguest>
what is dollar sign?
<csguest>
$
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<csguest>
local to what
<tobiasvl>
csguest: that... is a sigil for a globak variable
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<tobiasvl>
csguest: would it kill you to read a little about ruby
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<csguest>
the file?
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<adaedra>
globak.
<tobiasvl>
instead of asking extremely basic questions in here
<jackcom>
Instance methods can access class variables and class methods directly.
<jackcom>
Class methods can access class variables and class methods directly.
<csguest>
yes
<jackcom>
Class methods cannot access instance variables or instance methods directly—they must use an object reference. Also, class methods cannot use the this keyword as there is no instance for this to refer to.
<jackcom>
i have mistake
<jackcom>
:(
<tobiasvl>
:)
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<jackcom>
language changed it recently
<jackcom>
i think so :)
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<tobiasvl>
it has always been like that, because the reverse is impossible
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<adaedra>
jackcom: what you were saying would go against basic OOP principles.
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<jackcom>
heh
<jackcom>
ok
<csguest>
oh serious question
<csguest>
what the #$@! can I not use var-name
<adaedra>
csguest: look at ruboto's link, lots of resources for you to learn ruby.
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<jackcom>
anyway earth run around sun :8
<jackcom>
8)
<csguest>
and have to use var_name
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<mrod>
The Coinbase Exchange API provides a REST and Websocket API. In lieu of continuous polling of the REST API, they suggest using the Websocket to listen to updates in real time. Using a combination of the REST and WS API, one can keep a relatively current version of the current "state" of exchange market. I'm wondering if anyone has any examples of Ruby projects that solve similar problems? I'm having a hard time coming up with an intuitive interf
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<tobiasvl>
csguest: as in most languages (all?), there are restrictions on what characters a variable name can consist of.
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<adaedra>
csguest: - is not valid in variable names, to not be inverted with - operator.
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<csguest>
so thats just design choice
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<csguest>
by the parseer
<csguest>
i mean i like underscores
<csguest>
i just had to debug that for 20 minutes lmao
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<norc>
csguest: Also fun fact, "class" and "instance" variables are really differentiated by the @ in their name (it's not syntax afaik)
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<blubjr>
tobiasvl: i cant think of anything you cant use in a common lisp variable name
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<norc>
blubjr: :)))
<tobiasvl>
blubjr: yeah, I was thinking the same thing, since csguest seemed to be a scheme/lisp programmer. parentheses probably?
<norc>
I think that smiley was slightly amusing, given the context.
<adaedra>
blubjr: ) ?
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<csguest>
no i hate scheme
<csguest>
scheme and prolog ruined my life
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<tobiasvl>
oh. well then
<blubjr>
adaedra: you have to escape it, but its valid