01:46 <Djack> hello

01:46 <Djack> can someone help me with sandstorm instlation

01:48 <ocdtrekkie> We can try

01:49 <ocdtrekkie> What's up?

01:50 <Djack> i'm having trouble with the email login

01:51 <ocdtrekkie> What sort of trouble?

01:51 <Djack> when i do the email test in the admin panel

01:51 <Djack> i receive this error

01:52 <Djack> {"code":"ECONNECTION","errno":"ECONNREFUSED","syscall":"connect","address":"150.162.2.72","port":587,"command":"CONN"} [other-email-sending-error]

01:54 <Djack> and when i try to login with email e receive internal error server

01:57 <Djack> in the /opt/sandstorm/var/log/sandstorm.log file

01:57 <Djack> i have this error

01:57 <ocdtrekkie> What are you using as the SMTP server?

01:59 <Djack> postfix

02:01 <ocdtrekkie> I am probably out of my depth on this one. Beyond reading https://docs.sandstorm.io/en/latest/administering/email/ you might want to file an issue explaining the details.

02:03 <ocdtrekkie> And let someone who knows more than me help.

02:04 <Djack> i have read the doc yet ,

02:04 <Djack> i will do that thanks

13:09 <dotorgdotcom> Normally, I need to share any grain with about 30 people. I can send them invite (all are part members of an organisation), but that is one by one, I need to search, select, searc select. Is there any better way, which, as it appears, I am missing. Can I have a group or list, and just by clicking there invitation goes to all 20 people.

13:12 <dotorgdotcom> s/to all 20 people/to all 30 people/

16:42 <coffeebird[m]> I thought I could do that by sharing collections but apparently you need to share each grain too

17:11 <hsrai> Can't we put grains in a folder? Like we have shared folder Davros, and we upload files. Rather than uploading file, can't we give links of grains, so that we can edit/view grains in SandStorm by clicking grain in folder.

17:46 <ocdtrekkie> dotorgdotcom: Currently, easiest way would probably be to create a shareable link, and email that link to your list of people via a normal email client.

22:57 <ocdtrekkie> coffeebird[m]: hsrai Actually Collections will let you do that.

22:58 <ocdtrekkie> If you add grains to a collection, everyone you share that collection with can go in and access the grains in that collection.

22:58 <ocdtrekkie> But it won't add them to someone's grain list until they go into the Collection and open them.

22:59 <ocdtrekkie> Nor will it notify them the grain is there.

22:59 <ocdtrekkie> (Which is why I think it's better to just email your list of people a shareable link in that case.)

23:44 <coffeebird[m]> but if it's a shareable link, then don't they have to always use that link? If they aren't added to the share list, it won't show up when they login

23:54 <ocdtrekkie> Clicking the link adds them to sharing list.